Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT

[Steve Jones]

Point taken

On Sep 2, 2017 6:01 PM, "Darin Steffl"  wrote:

> Steve,
>
> If you're having this much trouble, your decision tree is messed up
> somewhere. We've never had them ask for any MAC address for anything. They
> generally take calls well for the most part. Sometimes there's a call that
> I think WTF are you doing but not many.
>
> We love having serverplus answer calls after hours for us so we at least
> know our customers get a human being if they're having trouble. Most calls
> that don't go well can be fixed with an update to our decision tree.
>
> I don't think you have your process fine tuned with them yet so I highly
> suggest you work with their team to get things figured out. They're easy to
> work with and Layne will do his best to make sure you're happy. Just tone
> down the attitude a little bit so you don't offend them or who will want to
> help you ;)
>
> On Sep 1, 2017 2:36 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:
>
>> dispatching for pc support? do you charge for service calls? I can se
>> willy nilly dispatch if you charge, revenue driver.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Matt Hoppes <
>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> No.. that's what outsourced should have determined what the issue was.
>>> Radio is up... customer has no Internet - dispatch.
>>>
>>> On 9/1/17 3:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>>>

 We got a call today from a customer who also was down last week.
 radio looks fine.Router has a connection.If This Were outsourced
 to tech support where they kick it back to us?

 Looks like we will be sending someone out there anyway it might even be
 an id10terror

 Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

 - Reply message -
 From: "Steve Jones" 
 To: "af@afmug.com" 
 Subject: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT
 Date: Fri, Sep 1, 2017 11:39 AM

 youre not going to have them powercycle or verify things are plugged in
 correctly? that's ALOT of truck rolls

 On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Matt Hoppes
 >>> > wrote:

 Exactly... I just signed up with SP and my decision tree is going to
 be extremely simple and straight forward... so easy even a cave man
 can do it.

 Is your router on?   Are you connected to your router?  Can you ping
 your router?  Can you ping our modem?  Can I ping our modem?  Do you
 get proper speeds when plugged into our modem?

 ESCALATE.   What else is there to troubleshoot locally?  Unless your
 network is @#$@#.

 This entire process should take sub 5 minutes to complete.

 END RESULT:
 Your computer is borked.
 Your router is borked.
 Our connection to you is borked -- dispatch.

 On 9/1/17 8:58 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

 I have good luck with ServerPlus.  Part of the quality you get
 from them
 depends on the quality of the decision tree you give them.

 *From:* Sterling Jacobson
 *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:22 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com 
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT


 Not surprising, but sad to hear things haven’t changed one bit
 with
 ServerPlus in the years since I swore I would never use them
 again, lol!



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
 ] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
 *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:45 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com 
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT



 Supposed to specifically state not to ask for a mac from box.
 Because it
 was an issue. But, i bet we get an accurate bill. The bills are
 always
 consistent. The level of irate i have right now excedes my bac,
 thats
 pretty high at 944 pm



 On Aug 31, 2017 9:31 PM, "Josh Luthman"
 >>> > wrote:

 That idea is coming from somewhere and I too would think it
 comes
 from the DT.  None of my calls say anything about MAC (we
 NAT our SM).




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 
 
 Direct: 937-552-2343 
 
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Mike Hammett
 mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

 What does your DT say to do?



 -
 Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] easy backup link failover

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Some more food for thought... 

We are finding that setting up /configuring the OSPF links as PTP tends to 
provide faster failover convergence 
which becomes even more useful when it can be combined with bfd 

In regards to the weights, it's more of a 'six or half a dozen of another' what 
values you use to affect the change will be determined by what exactly you are 
trying to achieve and 'flow' of traffic on your OSPF network.. 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Steve Jones" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 4:47:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] easy backup link failover

> I was thinking about that, 10 doesn't give much room for manipulation

> On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 9:26 PM, George Skorup < george.sko...@cbcast.com >
> wrote:

>> That's typically what I do, just make the parallel backup path one higher at
>> both ends.

>> But I'll tell you this right now, consider a larger scale for your interface
>> costs. As your OSPF domain grows into more complex rings or more of a mesh,
>> shit will start to get complicated and you'll wish you had more granularity.
>> What I'm moving to is interface cost based on link bandwidth. Kinda like
>> Cisco's auto-cost, but not auto because MikroTik is stupid. Anyway.. take
>> 100,000 ÷ link bw in Mbps. So 1G=100. An AF24 around 770Mbps would be a cost 
>> of
>> about 130. A 360Mbps SAF link would be about 277. Etc, etc. Lots of 
>> granularity
>> for tweaking traffic flow.

>> On 9/2/2017 4:08 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

>>> we are replacing two links, currently cheap 5ghz (one epmp ptp and one ubnt
>>> nanobridge) with mimosa 11ghz, we dont need that much bandwidth right now 
>>> so im
>>> leaving the old links in parallel.

>>> I just put the path cost on the interface for the 5ghz at 11 and left the 
>>> 11ghz
>>> at 10. it seems to serve this purpose. but the other links in the redundancy
>>> will see that extra 1 in path cost on failover, not so awful a deal since it
>>> will drop capacity by 90 percent, but would i have been better to leave the
>>> 5ghz at 10 and drop the 11ghz to 5?

Re: [AFMUG] easy backup link failover

[Steve Jones]

I was thinking about that, 10 doesn't give much room for manipulation

On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 9:26 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> That's typically what I do, just make the parallel backup path one higher
> at both ends.
>
> But I'll tell you this right now, consider a larger scale for your
> interface costs. As your OSPF domain grows into more complex rings or more
> of a mesh, shit will start to get complicated and you'll wish you had more
> granularity. What I'm moving to is interface cost based on link bandwidth.
> Kinda like Cisco's auto-cost, but not auto because MikroTik is stupid.
> Anyway.. take 100,000 ÷ link bw in Mbps. So 1G=100. An AF24 around 770Mbps
> would be a cost of about 130. A 360Mbps SAF link would be about 277. Etc,
> etc. Lots of granularity for tweaking traffic flow.
>
>
> On 9/2/2017 4:08 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
>> we are replacing two links, currently cheap 5ghz (one epmp ptp and one
>> ubnt nanobridge) with mimosa 11ghz, we dont need that much bandwidth right
>> now so im leaving the old links in parallel.
>>
>> I just put the path cost on the interface for the 5ghz at 11 and left the
>> 11ghz at 10. it seems to serve this purpose. but the other links in the
>> redundancy will see that extra 1 in path cost on failover, not so awful a
>> deal since it will drop capacity by 90 percent, but would i have been
>> better to leave the 5ghz at 10 and drop the 11ghz to 5?
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Like I said... "All bets are off" 
and it ain't over until the fat lady sings... 

Most tracking models are reasonable accurate for prediction in the 2-3 day 
range. 
But then again we have seen storms do some really wild and unpredictable path 
changes within a matter of few hours... 

At this point we would not know with any amount of reasonableness till Thursday 
or Friday... 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 1:40:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

> The most reliable tracks have it hitting well north of you...but they are all
> really guessing.

> Jeff Broadwick
> ConVergence Technologies , Inc.
> 312-205-2519 Office
> 574-220-7826 Cell
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

> On Sep 3, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net > wrote:

>> Hi Brett,

>> We are all keeping any eye on Irma's developing track as well as praying that
>> everyone gets spared.
>> It is not going to be good, and I will leave it at that.

>> In regards to your question of what possibly can happen with a CAT 5 
>> hurricane,
>> I would suggest that you look at these pictures:

>> http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/nws/andy1.html
>> (Pay attention to the pictures on page 2 of the wood pieces and the palm 
>> tree)

>> Having lived thru that, and knowing what folks went thru first hand .

>> All I can say, with deep deep meaning... "In a Cat5 storm, all bets are off,
>> what will survive and what will fail.."

>> Regards.

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>> - Original Message -

>>> From: "Brett A Mansfield" < li...@silverlakeinternet.com >

>>> To: af@afmug.com

>>> Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 12:05:21 PM

>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

>>> We are having quite the busy year for strong hurricanes. They don’t yet 
>>> know the

>>> path of Irma, but are certain that Puerto Rico will get the full cat3 or 
>>> even

>>> up to cat5 force of it.

>>> History of storms like these dictate that is go all along the eastern cost 
>>> as it

>>> weakens. They are thinking it could surpass category 5 and become a super

>>> typhoon. That doesn’t sound good at all.

>>> Anyone ever have a storm topple a guyed tower?

>>> Thank you,

>>> Brett A Mansfield

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Fair point. 

In the event of the disaster.. there are obviously three stages.. 

1) While the 'story' is breaking e.g. the event is going on... 
This is typically best handled by local folks neighbors etc.. 

2) Right after the storm... this is when lots of folks, immediately start doing 
stuff, due to the high emotional feelings. 
Depending on the need, (e.g. Houston, all the folks with Boats etc) and any 
or all other aspects which may not be visible ... 

3) Med to long term recovery this is probably the hardest and longer 
needs.. typically the spot light is off, and the full nature of the disaster 
(domino affect starts to be realized)... 

There is plenty of room to help, sometimes it is with Money, other times it is 
with your time and compassion.. and on other occasions it is simply the 
additional manpower ... 

Being far away, it is nice to see the feeling of compassion, but do keep an eye 
and ear open with the smaller groups, Church Groups, Local Charitable 
Foundations, and other Organizations (smaller the better) and volunteer with 
what you can.. these folks tend to make great impact on individual's lives, 
while they may not be able to help everyone.. 

One more thing to keep in mind. it is not uncommon to have a tremendous 
amount of waste during the the 1st and 2nd phase ... 

This is what I can share with you from our past experience. 

I don't know if MacDearman is on this list or any of the other lists, it would 
be very interesting to hear his experience and insights. on this topic too. 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Brett A Mansfield" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 2:08:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

> I’m actually in Utah and will not be directly affected by it at all. I just 
> feel
> bad for those who are and they are certainly in my prayers.
> I would like to help anyone in any area affected by these hurricanes, but I
> don’t know how I could other than flying out and being extra hands.

> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield

> On Sep 3, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists < jeffl...@att.net > 
> wrote:

>> The most reliable tracks have it hitting well north of you...but they are all
>> really guessing.

>> Jeff Broadwick
>> ConVergence Technologies , Inc.
>> 312-205-2519 Office
>> 574-220-7826 Cell
>> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

>> On Sep 3, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net > wrote:

>>> Hi Brett,

>>> We are all keeping any eye on Irma's developing track as well as praying 
>>> that
>>> everyone gets spared.
>>> It is not going to be good, and I will leave it at that.

>>> In regards to your question of what possibly can happen with a CAT 5 
>>> hurricane,
>>> I would suggest that you look at these pictures:

>>> http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/nws/andy1.html
>>> (Pay attention to the pictures on page 2 of the wood pieces and the palm 
>>> tree)

>>> Having lived thru that, and knowing what folks went thru first hand .

>>> All I can say, with deep deep meaning... "In a Cat5 storm, all bets are off,
>>> what will survive and what will fail.."

>>> Regards.

>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>> - Original Message -

 From: "Brett A Mansfield" < li...@silverlakeinternet.com >

 To: af@afmug.com

 Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 12:05:21 PM

 Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

 We are having quite the busy year for strong hurricanes. They don’t yet 
 know the

 path of Irma, but are certain that Puerto Rico will get the full cat3 or 
 even

 up to cat5 force of it.

 History of storms like these dictate that is go all along the eastern cost 
 as it

 weakens. They are thinking it could surpass category 5 and become a super

 typhoon. That doesn’t sound good at all.

 Anyone ever have a storm topple a guyed tower?

 Thank you,

 Brett A Mansfield

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

[Brett A Mansfield]

I’m actually in Utah and will not be directly affected by it at all. I just 
feel bad for those who are and they are certainly in my prayers. 

I would like to help anyone in any area affected by these hurricanes, but I 
don’t know how I could other than flying out and being extra hands. 

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On Sep 3, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists  wrote:
> 
> The most reliable tracks have it hitting well north of you...but they are all 
> really guessing.
> 
> Jeff Broadwick
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
> 312-205-2519 Office
> 574-220-7826 Cell
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Faisal Imtiaz  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Brett,
>> 
>> We are all keeping any eye on Irma's developing track as well as praying 
>> that everyone gets spared.
>> It is not going to be good, and I will leave it at that.
>> 
>> In regards to your question of what possibly can happen with a CAT 5 
>> hurricane, I would suggest that you look at these pictures:
>> 
>> http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/nws/andy1.html
>>  (Pay attention to the pictures on page 2 of the wood pieces and the palm 
>> tree)
>> 
>> Having lived thru that, and knowing what folks went thru first hand .
>> 
>> All I can say, with deep deep meaning... "In a Cat5 storm, all bets are off, 
>> what will survive and what will fail.."
>> 
>> Regards.
>> 
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>> 
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Brett A Mansfield" 
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 12:05:21 PM
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma
>> 
>>> We are having quite the busy year for strong hurricanes. They don’t yet 
>>> know the
>>> path of Irma, but are certain that Puerto Rico will get the full cat3 or 
>>> even
>>> up to cat5 force of it.
>>> 
>>> History of storms like these dictate that is go all along the eastern cost 
>>> as it
>>> weakens. They are thinking it could surpass category 5 and become a super
>>> typhoon. That doesn’t sound good at all.
>>> 
>>> Anyone ever have a storm topple a guyed tower?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Brett A Mansfield

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

The most reliable tracks have it hitting well north of you...but they are all 
really guessing.

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

> On Sep 3, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Faisal Imtiaz  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brett,
> 
> We are all keeping any eye on Irma's developing track as well as praying that 
> everyone gets spared.
> It is not going to be good, and I will leave it at that.
> 
> In regards to your question of what possibly can happen with a CAT 5 
> hurricane, I would suggest that you look at these pictures:
> 
> http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/nws/andy1.html
>  (Pay attention to the pictures on page 2 of the wood pieces and the palm 
> tree)
> 
> Having lived thru that, and knowing what folks went thru first hand .
> 
> All I can say, with deep deep meaning... "In a Cat5 storm, all bets are off, 
> what will survive and what will fail.."
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> 
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> 
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Brett A Mansfield" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 12:05:21 PM
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma
> 
>> We are having quite the busy year for strong hurricanes. They don’t yet know 
>> the
>> path of Irma, but are certain that Puerto Rico will get the full cat3 or even
>> up to cat5 force of it.
>> 
>> History of storms like these dictate that is go all along the eastern cost 
>> as it
>> weakens. They are thinking it could surpass category 5 and become a super
>> typhoon. That doesn’t sound good at all.
>> 
>> Anyone ever have a storm topple a guyed tower?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Hi Brett,

We are all keeping any eye on Irma's developing track as well as praying that 
everyone gets spared.
It is not going to be good, and I will leave it at that.

In regards to your question of what possibly can happen with a CAT 5 hurricane, 
I would suggest that you look at these pictures:

http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/nws/andy1.html
  (Pay attention to the pictures on page 2 of the wood pieces and the palm tree)

Having lived thru that, and knowing what folks went thru first hand .

All I can say, with deep deep meaning... "In a Cat5 storm, all bets are off, 
what will survive and what will fail.."

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Brett A Mansfield" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 12:05:21 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

> We are having quite the busy year for strong hurricanes. They don’t yet know 
> the
> path of Irma, but are certain that Puerto Rico will get the full cat3 or even
> up to cat5 force of it.
> 
> History of storms like these dictate that is go all along the eastern cost as 
> it
> weakens. They are thinking it could surpass category 5 and become a super
> typhoon. That doesn’t sound good at all.
> 
> Anyone ever have a storm topple a guyed tower?
> 
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield

[AFMUG] OT: Hurricane Irma

[Brett A Mansfield]

We are having quite the busy year for strong hurricanes. They don’t yet know 
the path of Irma, but are certain that Puerto Rico will get the full cat3 or 
even up to cat5 force of it. 

History of storms like these dictate that is go all along the eastern cost as 
it weakens. They are thinking it could surpass category 5 and become a super 
typhoon. That doesn’t sound good at all. 

Anyone ever have a storm topple a guyed tower?

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 2.4 interfering with Dish satellite

[Jay Weekley]

That sounds odd.

Timothy Steele wrote:


The 450


On Sun, Sep 3, 2017, 11:38 AM Jay Weekley > wrote:


I was wondering which signal was being killed.  The satellite or
the 450.

David Milholen wrote:
>
> What scenario would cause that using a 450 Mine is only 5 ft
away with
> no issues
>
>
>
> On 9/2/2017 12:50 AM, Timothy Steele wrote:
>>
>> Not sure about ubnt about dish and even more so direct TV cambium
>> 450's will mess with signal normally kills the radio​ signal first
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017, 1:09 PM Jeremy mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> All of the old M series, 5GHz & 2.4GHz had an underclocked
>> processor to avoid coming to close to the 2.4GHz frequency and
>> causing interference to co-located 2.4GHz radios.  As it turns
>> out, the third harmonic of the 2GHz frequency that they were
>> underclocked to would interfere with Verizon's 700MHz LTE gear.
>> So we have to run special (not underclocked) firmware on sites
>> where we co-locate with Verizon.  None of the new radios
made in
>> the last few years have this issue, as they have a faster
>> processor.  They really didn't need to underclock them anyway.
>> We have 2.4GHz alongside of radios that had that special
firmware
>> and they were not affected at all.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 1:44 PM, George Skorup
>> mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ethernet. Power it up, leave ethernet link down.
>>
>> Switching power supply. Try battery power only, leave
>> ethernet link down.
>>
>> CPU/SoC. Pretty much the end of the road. I remember a
thread
>> from maybe a couple years ago where an UBNT radio was
>> interfering with VzW's uplink. I think UBNT did a special
>> firmware that changed the CPU freq. I don't remember which
>> radio that was.
>>
>> I want to say the IF side of the Dish LNB can be between
>> 500-2200MHz. The cables tied together is obviously not
good.
>>
>> You're probably better off just moving your radio and cable
>> to just be done with it.
>>
>>
>> On 9/1/2017 1:05 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>>
>> Got a call from a guy in the field that says Dish moved
>> their equipment behind our 2.4 Airgrid and whenever our
>> radio is powered up the customer loses their high
>> definition channels.  Our cable and theirs are tie
>> wrapped together so I suggested that they power the
radio
>> with their survey rig to see if some kind of
interference
>> was involved. Any idea on what is causing this problem?
>> Other suggestions besides moving our radio?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


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Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 2.4 interfering with Dish satellite

[Timothy Steele]

The 450

On Sun, Sep 3, 2017, 11:38 AM Jay Weekley  wrote:

> I was wondering which signal was being killed.  The satellite or the 450.
>
> David Milholen wrote:
> >
> > What scenario would cause that using a 450 Mine is only 5 ft away with
> > no issues
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/2/2017 12:50 AM, Timothy Steele wrote:
> >>
> >> Not sure about ubnt about dish and even more so direct TV cambium
> >> 450's will mess with signal normally kills the radio​ signal first
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017, 1:09 PM Jeremy  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> All of the old M series, 5GHz & 2.4GHz had an underclocked
> >> processor to avoid coming to close to the 2.4GHz frequency and
> >> causing interference to co-located 2.4GHz radios.  As it turns
> >> out, the third harmonic of the 2GHz frequency that they were
> >> underclocked to would interfere with Verizon's 700MHz LTE gear.
> >> So we have to run special (not underclocked) firmware on sites
> >> where we co-locate with Verizon.  None of the new radios made in
> >> the last few years have this issue, as they have a faster
> >> processor.  They really didn't need to underclock them anyway.
> >> We have 2.4GHz alongside of radios that had that special firmware
> >> and they were not affected at all.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 1:44 PM, George Skorup
> >> mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ethernet. Power it up, leave ethernet link down.
> >>
> >> Switching power supply. Try battery power only, leave
> >> ethernet link down.
> >>
> >> CPU/SoC. Pretty much the end of the road. I remember a thread
> >> from maybe a couple years ago where an UBNT radio was
> >> interfering with VzW's uplink. I think UBNT did a special
> >> firmware that changed the CPU freq. I don't remember which
> >> radio that was.
> >>
> >> I want to say the IF side of the Dish LNB can be between
> >> 500-2200MHz. The cables tied together is obviously not good.
> >>
> >> You're probably better off just moving your radio and cable
> >> to just be done with it.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/1/2017 1:05 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
> >>
> >> Got a call from a guy in the field that says Dish moved
> >> their equipment behind our 2.4 Airgrid and whenever our
> >> radio is powered up the customer loses their high
> >> definition channels.  Our cable and theirs are tie
> >> wrapped together so I suggested that they power the radio
> >> with their survey rig to see if some kind of interference
> >> was involved. Any idea on what is causing this problem?
> >> Other suggestions besides moving our radio?
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Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 2.4 interfering with Dish satellite

[Jay Weekley]

I was wondering which signal was being killed.  The satellite or the 450.

David Milholen wrote:


What scenario would cause that using a 450 Mine is only 5 ft away with 
no issues




On 9/2/2017 12:50 AM, Timothy Steele wrote:


Not sure about ubnt about dish and even more so direct TV cambium 
450's will mess with signal normally kills the radio​ signal first



On Fri, Sep 1, 2017, 1:09 PM Jeremy > wrote:


All of the old M series, 5GHz & 2.4GHz had an underclocked
processor to avoid coming to close to the 2.4GHz frequency and
causing interference to co-located 2.4GHz radios.  As it turns
out, the third harmonic of the 2GHz frequency that they were
underclocked to would interfere with Verizon's 700MHz LTE gear. 
So we have to run special (not underclocked) firmware on sites

where we co-locate with Verizon.  None of the new radios made in
the last few years have this issue, as they have a faster
processor.  They really didn't need to underclock them anyway. 
We have 2.4GHz alongside of radios that had that special firmware

and they were not affected at all.

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 1:44 PM, George Skorup
mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>> wrote:

Ethernet. Power it up, leave ethernet link down.

Switching power supply. Try battery power only, leave
ethernet link down.

CPU/SoC. Pretty much the end of the road. I remember a thread
from maybe a couple years ago where an UBNT radio was
interfering with VzW's uplink. I think UBNT did a special
firmware that changed the CPU freq. I don't remember which
radio that was.

I want to say the IF side of the Dish LNB can be between
500-2200MHz. The cables tied together is obviously not good.

You're probably better off just moving your radio and cable
to just be done with it.


On 9/1/2017 1:05 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:

Got a call from a guy in the field that says Dish moved
their equipment behind our 2.4 Airgrid and whenever our
radio is powered up the customer loses their high
definition channels.  Our cable and theirs are tie
wrapped together so I suggested that they power the radio
with their survey rig to see if some kind of interference
was involved. Any idea on what is causing this problem? 
Other suggestions besides moving our radio?







 
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Re: [AFMUG] 3.65GHz spectrum availability

[Rick Harnish]

Actually you need to apply for a license renewal, it isn’t simply extended.  

 

Respectfully,

 

--

Rick Harnish

 

Director of WISP Markets

 

  Baicells Technologies North America, Inc.

Mobile:  (972) 922-1443

 

  rick.harn...@baicells.com

  www.facebook.com/baicells

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Milholen
Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 9:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65GHz spectrum availability

 

It better because there could be an apocalypse that could occur :)

 

 

On 9/1/2017 3:22 PM, George Skorup wrote:

IIRC, all NN licenses are valid until the SAS is up and running. If yours will 
expire before that happens, it's simply extended.

On 9/1/2017 3:03 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

How much longer is an NN license good for?  I think through 2018 if I remember 
correctly.

 

 

-- Original Message --

From: "Brett A Mansfield" mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com> >

To: af@afmug.com  

Sent: 9/1/2017 4:02:47 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65GHz spectrum availability

 

I have an NN license I don’t use and would consider selling. 

Thank you, 

Brett A Mansfield


On Sep 1, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Sean Heskett mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

If you already have an NN license then you can use it just as you have been.

 

If you don't have an NN license you'll need to buy one from someone who does.

 

If you are looking to use the 3550-3650 CBRS spectrum you'll need to wait a bit 
longer for the SAS to get up and running and for the auctions etc.

 

-Sean

 

 

 

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 2:38 PM Rory Conaway mailto:r...@triadwireless.net> > wrote:

Is there any chance of getting any or is it still in hiatus?

 

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO

4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040

602-426-0542

r...@triadwireless.net  

www.triadwireless.net  

 

“A hot dog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz.” — Humphrey Bogart

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla S Batt packs for site backup????

[Chuck McCown]

26 cents per watt hour.  Not outrageous for what it is, but flooded cells can 
be had for 15 cents. 

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 6:41 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Tesla S Batt packs for site backup

Is this feasible ? They seem to pack allot of juice

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tesla-Model-S-battery-module-24V-250Ah-5-3kWh-444-Panasonic-18650-3400mAh-/262333679871?hash=item3d144e48ff:g:OSkAAOSwh-1W5acD&vxp=mtr




  Gino A. Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

Re: [AFMUG] Wire label labelmaker recommendation

[Adam Moffett]

I love the idea of heat shrink labels.  Is there a size of tubing where 
it will fit over a terminated CAT5 when unshrunk, but still shrink onto 
the CAT5?


A simple short term solution for you, Forrest, is put clear packaging 
tape over the label.  The packing tape holds so well you don't even need 
a real labelyou can just use strips of paper.  The tape always ends 
up with a wrinkle in it, but it never comes off.



-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Reynolds" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/3/2017 2:13:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wire label labelmaker recommendation


This.

Dymo Rhino and the Brother industrial (PZ? I can't remember) both have 
rugged labels that will stand up to sun, oil, chemicals, etc. Vinyl, 
cloth, a whole range of colors and sizes.


They also have printable heat shrink labels.

On Sep 2, 2017 7:25 PM, "George Skorup"  
wrote:
I use a Dymo Rhino 5200 and 3/4" black on white industrial vinyl tape. 
The 5200 has presets for wire and cable, patch panels, breaker panels, 
etc. I've had the vinyl outdoors on 'Pipes and 'Boxes with a "GPS" 
label for years. None of them have came off yet. They've stayed on 
cables in outdoor cabinets that get a little on the warm side. I've 
pulled some off and transferred to another cable and they re-stick 
just fine.


We have several of this kit: 
https://www.amazon.com/Industrial-RHINO-Label-Maker-1756589/dp/B002M1HKLC/ 



On 9/2/2017 7:01 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
I've been using a brother "TZ" labelmaker for quite a while.   Works 
great on flat surfaces.


Recently, I've been needing to label wires for the test system - I'm 
finding that the TZ tape likes to peel.  I'm going to get a brand new 
roll of the cable&wire flexible id tape, in case I got a bad one or 
mistakenly used the wrong tape for some of these labels.  But... I'm 
pretty convinced that this is more related to the fact that these 
cables are inserted/removed regularly and as such the label+cable is 
subject to being flexed.  With the plastic tape being not as flexible 
as the cable, this is causing enough 'strain' on the adhesive for it 
to release.


I've been curious about the brady and other similar labelers.   
Unfortunately I don't know what label is going on these cables at 
build time so for the most part I'm going to have to stick with some 
sort of adhesive label (unless there is another option other than a 
heatshrink tube).   The fact that brady has cloth labels makes me 
wonder if this would work better...


What does everyone use, and what experience have you had with the 
labels?


BTW, many of these cables are CAT5 sized.  Some are bigger/smaller 
though...


--
Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  
  

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 2.4 interfering with Dish satellite

[David Milholen]

What scenario would cause that using a 450 Mine is only 5 ft away with 
no issues




On 9/2/2017 12:50 AM, Timothy Steele wrote:


Not sure about ubnt about dish and even more so direct TV cambium 
450's will mess with signal normally kills the radio​ signal first



On Fri, Sep 1, 2017, 1:09 PM Jeremy > wrote:


All of the old M series, 5GHz & 2.4GHz had an underclocked
processor to avoid coming to close to the 2.4GHz frequency and
causing interference to co-located 2.4GHz radios.  As it turns
out, the third harmonic of the 2GHz frequency that they were
underclocked to would interfere with Verizon's 700MHz LTE gear. 
So we have to run special (not underclocked) firmware on sites

where we co-locate with Verizon.  None of the new radios made in
the last few years have this issue, as they have a faster
processor.  They really didn't need to underclock them anyway.  We
have 2.4GHz alongside of radios that had that special firmware and
they were not affected at all.

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 1:44 PM, George Skorup
mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>> wrote:

Ethernet. Power it up, leave ethernet link down.

Switching power supply. Try battery power only, leave ethernet
link down.

CPU/SoC. Pretty much the end of the road. I remember a thread
from maybe a couple years ago where an UBNT radio was
interfering with VzW's uplink. I think UBNT did a special
firmware that changed the CPU freq. I don't remember which
radio that was.

I want to say the IF side of the Dish LNB can be between
500-2200MHz. The cables tied together is obviously not good.

You're probably better off just moving your radio and cable to
just be done with it.


On 9/1/2017 1:05 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:

Got a call from a guy in the field that says Dish moved
their equipment behind our 2.4 Airgrid and whenever our
radio is powered up the customer loses their high
definition channels.  Our cable and theirs are tie wrapped
together so I suggested that they power the radio with
their survey rig to see if some kind of interference was
involved. Any idea on what is causing this problem?  Other
suggestions besides moving our radio?

Re: [AFMUG] Frontier Pole Attachment contact

[Adam Moffett]

Thank you Mike!


-- Original Message --
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/2/2017 9:46:29 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Frontier Pole Attachment contact


Sent offlist.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 
 
 


Midwest Internet Exchange 
 
 


The Brothers WISP 





From: "Adam Moffett" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 3:21:15 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Frontier Pole Attachment contact

Maybe a long shot, but does anyone here have a contact at Frontier 
Telephone for pole attachment or joint use of plant?


Thanks,
Adam

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65GHz spectrum availability

[David Milholen]

It better because there could be an apocalypse that could occur :)



On 9/1/2017 3:22 PM, George Skorup wrote:
IIRC, all NN licenses are valid until the SAS is up and running. If 
yours will expire before that happens, it's simply extended.


On 9/1/2017 3:03 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
How much longer is an NN license good for?  I think through 2018 if I 
remember correctly.



-- Original Message --
From: "Brett A Mansfield" >

To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: 9/1/2017 4:02:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65GHz spectrum availability


I have an NN license I don’t use and would consider selling.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

On Sep 1, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Sean Heskett > wrote:


If you already have an NN license then you can use it just as you 
have been.


If you don't have an NN license you'll need to buy one from someone 
who does.


If you are looking to use the 3550-3650 CBRS spectrum you'll need 
to wait a bit longer for the SAS to get up and running and for the 
auctions etc.


-Sean



On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 2:38 PM Rory Conaway > wrote:


Is there any chance of getting any or is it still in hiatus?

*Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •**CEO*

*4226 S. 37^th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

*602-426-0542*

*r...@triadwireless.net *

*www.triadwireless.net *

**

/“A hot dog at the game beats roast beef at the Ritz.”/—
Humphrey Bogart

Re: [AFMUG] Wire label labelmaker recommendation

[Kerry Penland]

+1 on the Dymo labeler. I have two, the industrial vinyl is the best tape  
I've ever used. They also have a heat shrink tubing you can print on. I've  
used that also, so long as you can label the wire before you put a  
connector on it. Lots of options for vertical wrap and horizontal wrap  
labels, panels , etc. I still haven't used it to it's full potential.


On Sat, 02 Sep 2017 20:25:51 -0400, George Skorup  
 wrote:


I use a Dymo Rhino 5200 and 3/4" black on white industrial vinyl tape.  
The 5200 has presets for wire and cable, patch panels, breaker panels,  
etc. I've had >the vinyl outdoors on 'Pipes and 'Boxes with a "GPS"  
label for years. None of them have came off yet. They've stayed on  
cables in outdoor cabinets that >get a little on the warm side. I've  
pulled some off and transferred to another cable and they re-stick just  
fine.


We have several of this kit:  
https://www.amazon.com/Industrial-RHINO-Label-Maker-1756589/dp/B002M1HKLC/


On 9/2/2017 7:01 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
I've been using a brother "TZ" labelmaker for quite a while.   Works  
great on flat surfaces.
Recently, I've been needing to label wires for the test system - I'm  
finding that the TZ tape likes to peel.  I'm going to get a brand new  
roll >>of the cable&wire flexible id tape, in case I got a bad one or  
mistakenly used the wrong tape for some of these labels.  But... I'm  
pretty >>convinced that this is more related to the fact that these  
cables are inserted/removed regularly and as such the label+cable is  
subject to >>being flexed.  With the plastic tape being not as flexible  
as the cable, this is causing enough 'strain' on the adhesive for it to  
release.


I've been curious about the brady and other similar labelers.
Unfortunately I don't know what label is going on these cables at build  
time >>so for the most part I'm going to have to stick with some sort  
of adhesive label (unless there is another option other than a  
heatshrink >>tube).   The fact that brady has cloth labels makes me  
wonder if this would work better...


What does everyone use, and what experience have you had with the  
labels?


BTW, many of these cables are CAT5 sized.  Some are bigger/smaller  
though...


-- >>Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com











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[AFMUG] Tesla S Batt packs for site backup????

[Gino A. Villarini]

 Is this feasible ? They seem to pack allot of juice

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tesla-Model-S-battery-module-24V-250Ah-5-3kWh-444-Panasonic-18650-3400mAh-/262333679871?hash=item3d144e48ff:g:OSkAAOSwh-1W5acD&vxp=mtr





Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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