date:20180306

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI Calling UGH!

2018-03-06 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies

David,

Make  sure  your  DNS can handle the mixed case stuff.  Our DNS server
(simple  DNS Plus) had a bug in it and would cough up a hair ball with
the mixed case stuff AT was using.

-- 
Best regards,
 Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.MyakkaTech.com

--

Saturday, March 3, 2018, 12:15:33 PM, you wrote:

DM> hello to the borg

DM> I have a couple of customers who have an issue with wifi calling WTH!

DM> Mainly ATT customer that has it. I am not sure its a port thing or a 
DM> fragmentation thingy or whatever because we do not block any

DM> thing on the forwarding table except P2P and L7 stuff for reducing DMCA
DM> warnings.

DM> Anyone else seeing a trend with this wifi calling thingy :)

Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session

2018-03-06 Thread Robert


I suspect that you would get charged more .   and possibly convicted...

On 3/6/18 7:03 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Yikes

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 7:51 PM Chuck McCown > wrote:


Could I charge more if I was naked?
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 7:38 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session
You should do a ppv skype channel
On Mar 6, 2018 8:35 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

Ok second weekend it is. Hopefully Vermeer and Ditch Witch will
sponsor.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 6, 2018, at 8:24 PM, David M  wrote:


Second Week would be fine with me. I am hoping to take an
early Vacation since the kid is all grown and college has them
preoccupied.


On 3/6/2018 11:55 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Pick a date.ï¿½ I am thinking June.ï¿½ First to third
week.ï¿½ Maybe second week since it is already March and I
have not got the date set.ï¿½ Once we have a date I will shop
venues for the first day.ï¿½ Second day will be at my shop in
Lake Point I think.ï¿½
ï¿½
*From:* Dave
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 10:53 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session
ï¿½
Im not at wispAmerica, but What do you need to get it going.

Dave


On 03/05/2018 07:24 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Stop by our booth at WISPAmerica and help us get the
AnimalFarm Summer 2018 session on the calendar.ï¿½ I am
thinking the first week in June.


--

Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session

2018-03-06 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)

Depends on if you're charging to watch or not watch.

On Mar 6, 2018 8:51 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> Could I charge more if I was naked?
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 7:38 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session
>
> You should do a ppv skype channel
>
> On Mar 6, 2018 8:35 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>> Ok second weekend it is. Hopefully Vermeer and Ditch Witch will sponsor.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2018, at 8:24 PM, David M  wrote:
>>
>> Second Week would be fine with me. I am hoping to take an early Vacation
>> since the kid is all grown and college has them preoccupied.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/6/2018 11:55 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> Pick a date.ï¿½ I am thinking June.ï¿½ First to third week.ï¿½ Maybe
>> second week since it is already March and I have not got the date set.ï¿½
>> Once we have a date I will shop venues for the first day.ï¿½ Second day
>> will be at my shop in Lake Point I think.ï¿½
>> ï¿½
>> *From:* Dave
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 10:53 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session
>> ï¿½
>> Im not at wispAmerica, but What do you need to get it going.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> On 03/05/2018 07:24 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> Stop by our booth at WISPAmerica and help us get the AnimalFarm Summer
>> 2018 session on the calendar.ï¿½ I am thinking the first week in June.
>>
>>
>> --
>> 
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session

2018-03-06 Thread Seth Mattinen


On 3/6/18 6:51 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Could I charge more if I was naked?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2WXHXpnsts

Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session

2018-03-06 Thread Jaime Solorza

Yikes

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 7:51 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Could I charge more if I was naked?
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 7:38 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session
>
> You should do a ppv skype channel
>
> On Mar 6, 2018 8:35 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>> Ok second weekend it is. Hopefully Vermeer and Ditch Witch will sponsor.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2018, at 8:24 PM, David M  wrote:
>>
>> Second Week would be fine with me. I am hoping to take an early Vacation
>> since the kid is all grown and college has them preoccupied.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/6/2018 11:55 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> Pick a date.ï¿½ I am thinking June.ï¿½ First to third week.ï¿½ Maybe
>> second week since it is already March and I have not got the date set.ï¿½
>> Once we have a date I will shop venues for the first day.ï¿½ Second day
>> will be at my shop in Lake Point I think.ï¿½
>> ï¿½
>> *From:* Dave
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 10:53 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session
>> ï¿½
>> Im not at wispAmerica, but What do you need to get it going.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> On 03/05/2018 07:24 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> Stop by our booth at WISPAmerica and help us get the AnimalFarm Summer
>> 2018 session on the calendar.ï¿½ I am thinking the first week in June.
>>
>>
>> --
>> 
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session

2018-03-06 Thread Chuck McCown

Could I charge more if I was naked?

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 7:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session

You should do a ppv skype channel

On Mar 6, 2018 8:35 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

  Ok second weekend it is. Hopefully Vermeer and Ditch Witch will sponsor.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Mar 6, 2018, at 8:24 PM, David M  wrote:

Second Week would be fine with me. I am hoping to take an early Vacation 
since the kid is all grown and college has them preoccupied.

On 3/6/2018 11:55 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  Pick a date.ï¿½ I am thinking June.ï¿½ First to third week.ï¿½ Maybe 
second week since it is already March and I have not got the date set.ï¿½ Once 
we have a date I will shop venues for the first day.ï¿½ Second day will be at 
my shop in Lake Point I think.ï¿½ 
  ï¿½
  From: Dave 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 10:53 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session
  ï¿½
  Im not at wispAmerica, but What do you need to get it going. 

  Dave

  On 03/05/2018 07:24 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Stop by our booth at WISPAmerica and help us get the AnimalFarm Summer 
2018 session on the calendar.ï¿½ I am thinking the first week in June.

  --

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Seth Mattinen


On 3/6/18 6:36 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
When your electricity runs you can run pumps. But they run underwater 
telecomunications, underwater power, etc. Even if the tunnel was left 
flooded, still better than what happenned. Assuming the island is all 
bedrock, wouldnt be a terrible hurricaine shelter for the people without 
the resources to build reinforced shelters, heck, bore big enough and 
the have an intraisland public transit



Don't they already favor concrete construction because when hurricanes 
come there isn't anywhere to go but ride it out?

Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session

2018-03-06 Thread Steve Jones

You should do a ppv skype channel

On Mar 6, 2018 8:35 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> Ok second weekend it is. Hopefully Vermeer and Ditch Witch will sponsor.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 6, 2018, at 8:24 PM, David M  wrote:
>
> Second Week would be fine with me. I am hoping to take an early Vacation
> since the kid is all grown and college has them preoccupied.
>
>
>
> On 3/6/2018 11:55 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Pick a date.ï¿½ I am thinking June.ï¿½ First to third week.ï¿½ Maybe
> second week since it is already March and I have not got the date set.ï¿½
> Once we have a date I will shop venues for the first day.ï¿½ Second day
> will be at my shop in Lake Point I think.ï¿½
> ï¿½
> *From:* Dave
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 10:53 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session
> ï¿½
> Im not at wispAmerica, but What do you need to get it going.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On 03/05/2018 07:24 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Stop by our booth at WISPAmerica and help us get the AnimalFarm Summer
> 2018 session on the calendar.ï¿½ I am thinking the first week in June.
>
>
> --
> 
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Steve Jones

When your electricity runs you can run pumps. But they run underwater
telecomunications, underwater power, etc. Even if the tunnel was left
flooded, still better than what happenned. Assuming the island is all
bedrock, wouldnt be a terrible hurricaine shelter for the people without
the resources to build reinforced shelters, heck, bore big enough and the
have an intraisland public transit

On Mar 6, 2018 7:43 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

But how is their water table? Good idea though

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 6:36 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> I can drink as well in PR as in illinois, if you need help spending that
> government cheese.
>
> In all seriousness, if i had my druthers, id get elons big tunnel borer
> down there and bore out an infrastructure tunnel the length of the island
> with corridors to primary distribution points. Theres zero reason for above
> ground major infrastructure to be in place.
>
> On Mar 6, 2018 5:46 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:
>
>> While gorro is okay.  Go figure...but Gino says I speak the language of
>> Juan Diego which is incorrectmy Spanish is more Texican... Spanglish or
>> MexTex is what others speak...
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 3:54 PM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gorra is slang
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 3:28 PM Gino A. Villarini 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Gorra

 From: Af  on behalf of Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
 Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
 Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 5:33 PM
 To: "af@afmug.com" 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR /
 USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

 Cachucha

 Jaime Solorza

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:38 PM Carl Peterson 
 wrote:

> Yesterday, I was trying to remember how to say cap, as in a baseball
> cap, so I asked my three year old. who is in a Spanish immersion
> pre-school.  Without a second of hesitation, he says "hat-o"...
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> If that doesn’t work just say it again louder.
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 1:22 PM
>> *To:* af
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR /
>> USVItelecomrebuild/expansion
>>
>> I found that I could get by just fine in PR with pointing and
>> grunting...
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ah..entonces hablas la verdad
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:15 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 Si, yo hablo--- como un nino pequeno.

 *From:* Jaime Solorza
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:52 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI
 telecomrebuild/expansion

 Me too...and since Chuck speaks Spanish, no need from translator
 fees..

 Jaime Solorza

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 12:35 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> They should just give it all to you.
> If they do, I can help  you spend it...
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:31 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom
> rebuild/expansion
>
> Interesting
>
> #PaiMoney
>
> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hurricane-
> communications/fcc-wants-nearly-1-billion-to-revamp-
> puerto-rico-virgin-islands-communications-networks-
> idUSKCN1GI2EN?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&
> utm_content=5a9ee78904d30133ffd0af8a_
> medium=trueAnthem_source=twitter
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Carl Peterson
>
> *PORT NETWORKS*
>
> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
> 
>
> Baltimore, MD 21202
> 
>
> (410) 637-3707
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session

2018-03-06 Thread Chuck McCown

Ok second weekend it is. Hopefully Vermeer and Ditch Witch will sponsor.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2018, at 8:24 PM, David M  wrote:
> 
> Second Week would be fine with me. I am hoping to take an early Vacation 
> since the kid is all grown and college has them preoccupied.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3/6/2018 11:55 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> Pick a date.ï¿½ I am thinking June.ï¿½ First to third week.ï¿½ Maybe second 
>> week since it is already March and I have not got the date set.ï¿½ Once we 
>> have a date I will shop venues for the first day.ï¿½ Second day will be at 
>> my shop in Lake Point I think.ï¿½
>> ï¿½
>> From: Dave
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 10:53 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session
>> ï¿½
>> Im not at wispAmerica, but What do you need to get it going. 
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>>> On 03/05/2018 07:24 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>> Stop by our booth at WISPAmerica and help us get the AnimalFarm Summer 2018 
>>> session on the calendar.ï¿½ I am thinking the first week in June.
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session

2018-03-06 Thread David M

Second Week would be fine with me. I am hoping to take an early Vacation 
since the kid is all grown and college has them preoccupied.




On 3/6/2018 11:55 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Pick a date.ï¿½ I am thinking June.ï¿½ First to third week. Maybe second 
week since it is already March and I have not got the date set.ï¿½ Once 
we have a date I will shop venues for the first day.ï¿½ Second day will 
be at my shop in Lake Point I think.

*From:* Dave
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 10:53 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session
Im not at wispAmerica, but What do you need to get it going.

Dave


On 03/05/2018 07:24 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Stop by our booth at WISPAmerica and help us get the AnimalFarm 
Summer 2018 session on the calendar.ï¿½ I am thinking the first week 
in June.


--

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Mathew Howard

A lot of the island is mountains... I don't imagine the water table would
be so much of a problem up there.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 7:43 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> But how is their water table? Good idea though
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 6:36 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> I can drink as well in PR as in illinois, if you need help spending that
>> government cheese.
>>
>> In all seriousness, if i had my druthers, id get elons big tunnel borer
>> down there and bore out an infrastructure tunnel the length of the island
>> with corridors to primary distribution points. Theres zero reason for above
>> ground major infrastructure to be in place.
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2018 5:46 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> While gorro is okay.  Go figure...but Gino says I speak the language of
>>> Juan Diego which is incorrectmy Spanish is more Texican... Spanglish or
>>> MexTex is what others speak...
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 3:54 PM Jaime Solorza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Gorra is slang

 Jaime Solorza

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 3:28 PM Gino A. Villarini 
 wrote:

> Gorra
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 5:33 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR /
> USVItelecomrebuild/expansion
>
> Cachucha
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:38 PM Carl Peterson 
> wrote:
>
>> Yesterday, I was trying to remember how to say cap, as in a baseball
>> cap, so I asked my three year old. who is in a Spanish immersion
>> pre-school.  Without a second of hesitation, he says "hat-o"...
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> If that doesn’t work just say it again louder.
>>>
>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 1:22 PM
>>> *To:* af
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR /
>>> USVItelecomrebuild/expansion
>>>
>>> I found that I could get by just fine in PR with pointing and
>>> grunting...
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Ah..entonces hablas la verdad

 Jaime Solorza

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:15 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Si, yo hablo--- como un nino pequeno.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:52 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI
> telecomrebuild/expansion
>
> Me too...and since Chuck speaks Spanish, no need from translator
> fees..
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 12:35 PM Chuck McCown 
> wrote:
>
>> They should just give it all to you.
>> If they do, I can help  you spend it...
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:31 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom
>> rebuild/expansion
>>
>> Interesting
>>
>> #PaiMoney
>>
>>
>> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hurricane-communications/fcc-wants-nearly-1-billion-to-revamp-puerto-rico-virgin-islands-communications-networks-idUSKCN1GI2EN?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content_content=5a9ee78904d30133ffd0af8a_medium=trueAnthem_source=twitter
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Carl Peterson
>>
>> *PORT NETWORKS*
>>
>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>> 
>>
>> Baltimore, MD 21202
>> 
>>
>> (410) 637-3707
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Robert

Above ground infrastructure needs to go away...

On 3/6/18 5:35 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
I can drink as well in PR as in illinois, if you need help spending that 
government cheese.

In all seriousness, if i had my druthers, id get elons big tunnel borer 
down there and bore out an infrastructure tunnel the length of the 
island with corridors to primary distribution points. Theres zero reason 
for above ground major infrastructure to be in place.

On Mar 6, 2018 5:46 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote:

While gorro is okay.  Go figure...but Gino says I speak the language
of Juan Diego which is incorrectmy Spanish is more Texican...
Spanglish or MexTex is what others speak...

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 3:54 PM Jaime Solorza
> wrote:

Gorra is slang

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 3:28 PM Gino A. Villarini
> wrote:

Gorra

From: Af > on behalf of Jaime Solorza
>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com " >
Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 5:33 PM
To: "af@afmug.com " >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR /
USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

Cachucha

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:38 PM Carl Peterson
> wrote:

Yesterday, I was trying to remember how to say cap, as
in a baseball cap, so I asked my three year old. who is
in a Spanish immersion pre-school.  Without a second of
hesitation, he says "hat-o"...

*//*

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Chuck McCown
> wrote:

If that doesn’t work just say it again louder.
*From:* Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 1:22 PM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR /
USVItelecomrebuild/expansion
I found that I could get by just fine in PR with
pointing and grunting...
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Jaime Solorza
 wrote:

Ah..entonces hablas la verdad

Jaime Solorza
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:15 PM Chuck McCown
 wrote:

Si, yo hablo--- como un nino pequeno.
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:52 PM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B
for PR / USVI telecomrebuild/expansion
Me too...and since Chuck speaks Spanish, no
need from translator fees..

Jaime Solorza
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 12:35 PM Chuck McCown
 wrote:

They should just give it all to you.
If they do, I can help  you spend it...
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:31 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B
for PR / USVI telecom rebuild/expansion
Interesting
#PaiMoney

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hurricane-communications/fcc-wants-nearly-1-billion-to-revamp-puerto-rico-virgin-islands-communications-networks-idUSKCN1GI2EN?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content_content=5a9ee78904d30133ffd0af8a_medium=trueAnthem_source=twitter

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Jaime Solorza

But how is their water table? Good idea though

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 6:36 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> I can drink as well in PR as in illinois, if you need help spending that
> government cheese.
>
> In all seriousness, if i had my druthers, id get elons big tunnel borer
> down there and bore out an infrastructure tunnel the length of the island
> with corridors to primary distribution points. Theres zero reason for above
> ground major infrastructure to be in place.
>
> On Mar 6, 2018 5:46 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:
>
>> While gorro is okay.  Go figure...but Gino says I speak the language of
>> Juan Diego which is incorrectmy Spanish is more Texican... Spanglish or
>> MexTex is what others speak...
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 3:54 PM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gorra is slang
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 3:28 PM Gino A. Villarini 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Gorra

 From: Af  on behalf of Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
 Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
 Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 5:33 PM
 To: "af@afmug.com" 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR /
 USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

 Cachucha

 Jaime Solorza

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:38 PM Carl Peterson 
 wrote:

> Yesterday, I was trying to remember how to say cap, as in a baseball
> cap, so I asked my three year old. who is in a Spanish immersion
> pre-school.  Without a second of hesitation, he says "hat-o"...
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> If that doesn’t work just say it again louder.
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 1:22 PM
>> *To:* af
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR /
>> USVItelecomrebuild/expansion
>>
>> I found that I could get by just fine in PR with pointing and
>> grunting...
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ah..entonces hablas la verdad
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:15 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 Si, yo hablo--- como un nino pequeno.

 *From:* Jaime Solorza
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:52 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI
 telecomrebuild/expansion

 Me too...and since Chuck speaks Spanish, no need from translator
 fees..

 Jaime Solorza

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 12:35 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> They should just give it all to you.
> If they do, I can help  you spend it...
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:31 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom
> rebuild/expansion
>
> Interesting
>
> #PaiMoney
>
>
> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hurricane-communications/fcc-wants-nearly-1-billion-to-revamp-puerto-rico-virgin-islands-communications-networks-idUSKCN1GI2EN?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content_content=5a9ee78904d30133ffd0af8a_medium=trueAnthem_source=twitter
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Carl Peterson
>
> *PORT NETWORKS*
>
> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
> 
>
> Baltimore, MD 21202
> 
>
> (410) 637-3707
>

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Steve Jones

I can drink as well in PR as in illinois, if you need help spending that
government cheese.

In all seriousness, if i had my druthers, id get elons big tunnel borer
down there and bore out an infrastructure tunnel the length of the island
with corridors to primary distribution points. Theres zero reason for above
ground major infrastructure to be in place.

On Mar 6, 2018 5:46 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> While gorro is okay.  Go figure...but Gino says I speak the language of
> Juan Diego which is incorrectmy Spanish is more Texican... Spanglish or
> MexTex is what others speak...
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 3:54 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Gorra is slang
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 3:28 PM Gino A. Villarini  wrote:
>>
>>> Gorra
>>>
>>> From: Af  on behalf of Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 5:33 PM
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR /
>>> USVItelecomrebuild/expansion
>>>
>>> Cachucha
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:38 PM Carl Peterson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Yesterday, I was trying to remember how to say cap, as in a baseball
 cap, so I asked my three year old. who is in a Spanish immersion
 pre-school.  Without a second of hesitation, he says "hat-o"...



 *Gino A. Villarini*
 President
 Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> If that doesn’t work just say it again louder.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 1:22 PM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR /
> USVItelecomrebuild/expansion
>
> I found that I could get by just fine in PR with pointing and
> grunting...
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ah..entonces hablas la verdad
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:15 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Si, yo hablo--- como un nino pequeno.
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:52 PM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI
>>> telecomrebuild/expansion
>>>
>>> Me too...and since Chuck speaks Spanish, no need from translator
>>> fees..
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 12:35 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 They should just give it all to you.
 If they do, I can help  you spend it...

 *From:* Gino A. Villarini
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:31 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom
 rebuild/expansion

 Interesting

 #PaiMoney

 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hurricane-
 communications/fcc-wants-nearly-1-billion-to-revamp-
 puerto-rico-virgin-islands-communications-networks-
 idUSKCN1GI2EN?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&
 utm_content=5a9ee78904d30133ffd0af8a_
 medium=trueAnthem_source=twitter



 *Gino A. Villarini*
 President
 Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


>



 --

 Carl Peterson

 *PORT NETWORKS*

 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
 

 Baltimore, MD 21202
 

 (410) 637-3707

>>>

Re: [AFMUG] XRP

2018-03-06 Thread Steve Jones

is it a ripple in still waters? was a pebble tossed? did the wind even
blow? Im thinking this just sounds like an unstrung harp

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Gino A. Villarini  wrote:

> I hope they do..
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Travis Johnson 
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 4:21 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] XRP
>
> And that's the gamble. Either it tanks or it explodes... guess we will
> see. :)
>
> Travis
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> On 3/6/2018 12:29 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
>
> Rumor has it that they wont?
>
> On 3/6/18, 2:33 PM, "Af on behalf of Travis Johnson" 
> ï¿1Ž2
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> on behalf of t...@ida.net> wrote:
>
> >Hi...
> >
> >The Ripple coin is down to $.917 per coin... and rumors are that
> >Coinbase may start trading it soon. If that happens, the value will go
> >WAY up.
> >
> >Travis
> >
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Jaime Solorza

While gorro is okay.  Go figure...but Gino says I speak the language of
Juan Diego which is incorrectmy Spanish is more Texican... Spanglish or
MexTex is what others speak...

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 3:54 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Gorra is slang
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 3:28 PM Gino A. Villarini  wrote:
>
>> Gorra
>>
>> From: Af  on behalf of Jaime Solorza <
>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 5:33 PM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR /
>> USVItelecomrebuild/expansion
>>
>> Cachucha
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:38 PM Carl Peterson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yesterday, I was trying to remember how to say cap, as in a baseball
>>> cap, so I asked my three year old. who is in a Spanish immersion
>>> pre-school.  Without a second of hesitation, he says "hat-o"...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 If that doesn’t work just say it again louder.

 *From:* Mathew Howard
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 1:22 PM
 *To:* af
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR /
 USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

 I found that I could get by just fine in PR with pointing and
 grunting...

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ah..entonces hablas la verdad
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:15 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Si, yo hablo--- como un nino pequeno.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:52 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI
>> telecomrebuild/expansion
>>
>> Me too...and since Chuck speaks Spanish, no need from translator
>> fees..
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 12:35 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> They should just give it all to you.
>>> If they do, I can help  you spend it...
>>>
>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:31 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom
>>> rebuild/expansion
>>>
>>> Interesting
>>>
>>> #PaiMoney
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hurricane-communications/fcc-wants-nearly-1-billion-to-revamp-puerto-rico-virgin-islands-communications-networks-idUSKCN1GI2EN?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content_content=5a9ee78904d30133ffd0af8a_medium=trueAnthem_source=twitter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>>

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Carl Peterson
>>>
>>> *PORT NETWORKS*
>>>
>>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>>>
>>> Baltimore, MD 21202
>>>
>>> (410) 637-3707
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Jaime Solorza

Gorra is slang

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 3:28 PM Gino A. Villarini  wrote:

> Gorra
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 5:33 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR /
> USVItelecomrebuild/expansion
>
> Cachucha
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:38 PM Carl Peterson 
> wrote:
>
>> Yesterday, I was trying to remember how to say cap, as in a baseball cap,
>> so I asked my three year old. who is in a Spanish immersion pre-school.
>> Without a second of hesitation, he says "hat-o"...
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> If that doesn’t work just say it again louder.
>>>
>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 1:22 PM
>>> *To:* af
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR /
>>> USVItelecomrebuild/expansion
>>>
>>> I found that I could get by just fine in PR with pointing and grunting...
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Jaime Solorza >> > wrote:
>>>
 Ah..entonces hablas la verdad

 Jaime Solorza

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:15 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Si, yo hablo--- como un nino pequeno.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:52 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI
> telecomrebuild/expansion
>
> Me too...and since Chuck speaks Spanish, no need from translator
> fees..
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 12:35 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> They should just give it all to you.
>> If they do, I can help  you spend it...
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:31 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom
>> rebuild/expansion
>>
>> Interesting
>>
>> #PaiMoney
>>
>>
>> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hurricane-communications/fcc-wants-nearly-1-billion-to-revamp-puerto-rico-virgin-islands-communications-networks-idUSKCN1GI2EN?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content_content=5a9ee78904d30133ffd0af8a_medium=trueAnthem_source=twitter
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Carl Peterson
>>
>> *PORT NETWORKS*
>>
>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>>
>> Baltimore, MD 21202
>>
>> (410) 637-3707
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Gino A. Villarini

Gorra

From: Af > on behalf of Jaime 
Solorza >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 5:33 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

Cachucha

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:38 PM Carl Peterson 
> wrote:
Yesterday, I was trying to remember how to say cap, as in a baseball cap, so I 
asked my three year old. who is in a Spanish immersion pre-school.  Without a 
second of hesitation, he says "hat-o"...




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Chuck McCown 
> wrote:
If that doesn’t work just say it again louder.

From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 1:22 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

I found that I could get by just fine in PR with pointing and grunting...

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Jaime Solorza  wrote:
Ah..entonces hablas la verdad

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:15 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
Si, yo hablo--- como un nino pequeno.

From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:52 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecomrebuild/expansion

Me too...and since Chuck speaks Spanish, no need from translator fees..

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 12:35 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
They should just give it all to you.
If they do, I can help  you spend it...

From: Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom rebuild/expansion

Interesting

#PaiMoney

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hurricane-communications/fcc-wants-nearly-1-billion-to-revamp-puerto-rico-virgin-islands-communications-networks-idUSKCN1GI2EN?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content_content=5a9ee78904d30133ffd0af8a_medium=trueAnthem_source=twitter



Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[X]





--

Carl Peterson

PORT NETWORKS

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707

Re: [AFMUG] XRP

2018-03-06 Thread Gino A. Villarini

I hope they do..

From: Af > on behalf of 
Travis Johnson >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 4:21 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] XRP

And that's the gamble. Either it tanks or it explodes... guess we will see. :)

Travis




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

On 3/6/2018 12:29 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
Rumor has it that they wont?

On 3/6/18, 2:33 PM, "Af on behalf of Travis Johnson" 


ï¿1Ž2

Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:part1.C7CEB8C5.C04CF85D@ida.net]

on behalf of t...@ida.net> wrote:

>Hi...
>
>The Ripple coin is down to $.917 per coin... and rumors are that
>Coinbase may start trading it soon. If that happens, the value will go
>WAY up.
>
>Travis
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session

2018-03-06 Thread Gino A. Villarini

Winter edition! I miss SLC

From: Af > on behalf of Chuck 
McCown >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 1:55 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session

Gino A. Villarini

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Pick a date.  I am thinking June.  First to third week.  Maybe second week 
since it is already March and I have not got the date set.  Once we have a date 
I will shop venues for the first day.  Second day will be at my shop in Lake 
Point I think.

From: Dave
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 10:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session

Im not at wispAmerica, but What do you need to get it going.

Dave

On 03/05/2018 07:24 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Stop by our booth at WISPAmerica and help us get the AnimalFarm Summer 2018 
session on the calendar.ï¿1Ž2 I am thinking the first week in June.

--
[cid:69CCA6A63557403DA6A10236549FC2B1@ChuckMcCownPC]

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Jaime Solorza

Cachucha

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:38 PM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> Yesterday, I was trying to remember how to say cap, as in a baseball cap,
> so I asked my three year old. who is in a Spanish immersion pre-school.
> Without a second of hesitation, he says "hat-o"...
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> If that doesn’t work just say it again louder.
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 1:22 PM
>> *To:* af
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR /
>> USVItelecomrebuild/expansion
>>
>> I found that I could get by just fine in PR with pointing and grunting...
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ah..entonces hablas la verdad
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:15 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 Si, yo hablo--- como un nino pequeno.

 *From:* Jaime Solorza
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:52 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI
 telecomrebuild/expansion

 Me too...and since Chuck speaks Spanish, no need from translator fees..

 Jaime Solorza

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 12:35 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> They should just give it all to you.
> If they do, I can help  you spend it...
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:31 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom
> rebuild/expansion
>
> Interesting
>
> #PaiMoney
>
>
> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hurricane-communications/fcc-wants-nearly-1-billion-to-revamp-puerto-rico-virgin-islands-communications-networks-idUSKCN1GI2EN?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content_content=5a9ee78904d30133ffd0af8a_medium=trueAnthem_source=twitter
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Carl Peterson
>
> *PORT NETWORKS*
>
> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>
> Baltimore, MD 21202
>
> (410) 637-3707
>

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Carl Peterson

Yesterday, I was trying to remember how to say cap, as in a baseball cap,
so I asked my three year old. who is in a Spanish immersion pre-school.
Without a second of hesitation, he says "hat-o"...

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> If that doesn’t work just say it again louder.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 1:22 PM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR /
> USVItelecomrebuild/expansion
>
> I found that I could get by just fine in PR with pointing and grunting...
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Ah..entonces hablas la verdad
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:15 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Si, yo hablo--- como un nino pequeno.
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:52 PM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI
>>> telecomrebuild/expansion
>>>
>>> Me too...and since Chuck speaks Spanish, no need from translator fees..
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 12:35 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 They should just give it all to you.
 If they do, I can help  you spend it...

 *From:* Gino A. Villarini
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:31 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom
 rebuild/expansion

 Interesting

 #PaiMoney

 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hurricane-communicati
 ons/fcc-wants-nearly-1-billion-to-revamp-puerto-rico-
 virgin-islands-communications-networks-idUSKCN1GI2EN?utm_
 campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content_content=5a9ee78904
 d30133ffd0af8a_medium=trueAnthem_source=twitter



 *Gino A. Villarini*
 President
 Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


>



-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Chuck McCown

If that doesn’t work just say it again louder.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 1:22 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVItelecomrebuild/expansion

I found that I could get by just fine in PR with pointing and grunting...

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Jaime Solorza  wrote:

  Ah..entonces hablas la verdad

  Jaime Solorza

  On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:15 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

Si, yo hablo--- como un nino pequeno.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:52 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI 
telecomrebuild/expansion

Me too...and since Chuck speaks Spanish, no need from translator fees.. 

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 12:35 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

  They should just give it all to you.  
  If they do, I can help  you spend it...

  From: Gino A. Villarini 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:31 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom 
rebuild/expansion

  Interesting

  #PaiMoney

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hurricane-communications/fcc-wants-nearly-1-billion-to-revamp-puerto-rico-virgin-islands-communications-networks-idUSKCN1GI2EN?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content_content=5a9ee78904d30133ffd0af8a_medium=trueAnthem_source=twitter

Gino A. Villarini

President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecomrebuild/expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Mathew Howard

I found that I could get by just fine in PR with pointing and grunting...

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Ah..entonces hablas la verdad
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:15 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Si, yo hablo--- como un nino pequeno.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:52 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI
>> telecomrebuild/expansion
>>
>> Me too...and since Chuck speaks Spanish, no need from translator fees..
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 12:35 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> They should just give it all to you.
>>> If they do, I can help  you spend it...
>>>
>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:31 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom
>>> rebuild/expansion
>>>
>>> Interesting
>>>
>>> #PaiMoney
>>>
>>> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hurricane-
>>> communications/fcc-wants-nearly-1-billion-to-revamp-
>>> puerto-rico-virgin-islands-communications-networks-
>>> idUSKCN1GI2EN?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content_content=
>>> 5a9ee78904d30133ffd0af8a_medium=trueAnthem_source=twitter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] XRP

2018-03-06 Thread Travis Johnson

And that's the gamble. Either it tanks or it explodes... guess we will 
see. :)

Travis

On 3/6/2018 12:29 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:

Rumor has it that they wont?

On 3/6/18, 2:33 PM, "Af on behalf of Travis Johnson"  wrote:

>Hi...
>
>The Ripple coin is down to $.917 per coin... and rumors are that
>Coinbase may start trading it soon. If that happens, the value will go
>WAY up.
>
>Travis
>

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecomrebuild/expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Jaime Solorza

Ah..entonces hablas la verdad

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 1:15 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Si, yo hablo--- como un nino pequeno.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:52 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI
> telecomrebuild/expansion
>
> Me too...and since Chuck speaks Spanish, no need from translator fees..
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 12:35 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> They should just give it all to you.
>> If they do, I can help  you spend it...
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:31 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom
>> rebuild/expansion
>>
>> Interesting
>>
>> #PaiMoney
>>
>>
>> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hurricane-communications/fcc-wants-nearly-1-billion-to-revamp-puerto-rico-virgin-islands-communications-networks-idUSKCN1GI2EN?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content_content=5a9ee78904d30133ffd0af8a_medium=trueAnthem_source=twitter
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecomrebuild/expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Chuck McCown

Si, yo hablo--- como un nino pequeno.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:52 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecomrebuild/expansion

Me too...and since Chuck speaks Spanish, no need from translator fees.. 

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 12:35 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

  They should just give it all to you.  
  If they do, I can help  you spend it...

  From: Gino A. Villarini 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:31 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom rebuild/expansion

  Interesting

  #PaiMoney

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hurricane-communications/fcc-wants-nearly-1-billion-to-revamp-puerto-rico-virgin-islands-communications-networks-idUSKCN1GI2EN?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content_content=5a9ee78904d30133ffd0af8a_medium=trueAnthem_source=twitter

Gino A. Villarini

President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom rebuild/expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Zach Underwood

In good reporting standards they forgot a few details like where is the
money coming from, where is the money going, what is the time frame, and
what are the priority for the money.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Me too...and since Chuck speaks Spanish, no need from translator fees..
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 12:35 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> They should just give it all to you.
>> If they do, I can help  you spend it...
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:31 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom
>> rebuild/expansion
>>
>> Interesting
>>
>> #PaiMoney
>>
>> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hurricane-
>> communications/fcc-wants-nearly-1-billion-to-revamp-
>> puerto-rico-virgin-islands-communications-networks-
>> idUSKCN1GI2EN?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content_content=
>> 5a9ee78904d30133ffd0af8a_medium=trueAnthem_source=twitter
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>


-- 
Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
My website 
advance-networking.com

[AFMUG] Net neutrality

2018-03-06 Thread Brett A Mansfield

Anyone else see this yet?

https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46274530

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom rebuild/expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Jaime Solorza

Me too...and since Chuck speaks Spanish, no need from translator fees..

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 12:35 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> They should just give it all to you.
> If they do, I can help  you spend it...
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:31 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom
> rebuild/expansion
>
> Interesting
>
> #PaiMoney
>
>
> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hurricane-communications/fcc-wants-nearly-1-billion-to-revamp-puerto-rico-virgin-islands-communications-networks-idUSKCN1GI2EN?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content_content=5a9ee78904d30133ffd0af8a_medium=trueAnthem_source=twitter
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] XRP

2018-03-06 Thread Jaime Solorza

Ripple? hell I haven't drank any since my teenage years

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 12:29 PM Gino A. Villarini  wrote:

> Rumor has it that they wont?
>
> On 3/6/18, 2:33 PM, "Af on behalf of Travis Johnson" 
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> on behalf of t...@ida.net> wrote:
>
> >Hi...
> >
> >The Ripple coin is down to $.917 per coin... and rumors are that
> >Coinbase may start trading it soon. If that happens, the value will go
> >WAY up.
> >
> >Travis
> >
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom rebuild/expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Chuck McCown

They should just give it all to you.  
If they do, I can help  you spend it...

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom rebuild/expansion

Interesting

#PaiMoney

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hurricane-communications/fcc-wants-nearly-1-billion-to-revamp-puerto-rico-virgin-islands-communications-networks-idUSKCN1GI2EN?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content_content=5a9ee78904d30133ffd0af8a_medium=trueAnthem_source=twitter

  Gino A. Villarini

  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[AFMUG] FCC Pai proposes $1B for PR / USVI telecom rebuild/ expansion

2018-03-06 Thread Gino A. Villarini

Interesting

#PaiMoney

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hurricane-communications/fcc-wants-nearly-1-billion-to-revamp-puerto-rico-virgin-islands-communications-networks-idUSKCN1GI2EN?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content_content=5a9ee78904d30133ffd0af8a_medium=trueAnthem_source=twitter



Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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Re: [AFMUG] XRP

2018-03-06 Thread Gino A. Villarini

Rumor has it that they wont?

On 3/6/18, 2:33 PM, "Af on behalf of Travis Johnson"  wrote:

>Hi...
>
>The Ripple coin is down to $.917 per coin... and rumors are that
>Coinbase may start trading it soon. If that happens, the value will go
>WAY up.
>
>Travis
>

Re: [AFMUG] XRP

2018-03-06 Thread Gino A. Villarini

Kraken

From: Af > on behalf of Jason 
McKemie 
>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 2:53 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] XRP

What broker do you use to buy Ripple as of now?

On Tuesday, March 6, 2018, Travis Johnson > 
wrote:
Hi...

The Ripple coin is down to $.917 per coin... and rumors are that Coinbase may 
start trading it soon. If that happens, the value will go WAY up.

Travis

Gino A. Villarini

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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Re: [AFMUG] XRP

2018-03-06 Thread Jason McKemie

What broker do you use to buy Ripple as of now?

On Tuesday, March 6, 2018, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> Hi...
>
> The Ripple coin is down to $.917 per coin... and rumors are that Coinbase
> may start trading it soon. If that happens, the value will go WAY up.
>
> Travis
>
>

[AFMUG] XRP

2018-03-06 Thread Travis Johnson


Hi...

The Ripple coin is down to $.917 per coin... and rumors are that 
Coinbase may start trading it soon. If that happens, the value will go 
WAY up.


Travis

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

2018-03-06 Thread Mathew Howard

That kind of does make sense... they were obviously trying to keep the
price down.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 11:53 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> And you also paid Exalt prices.
>
> I think UBNT used off the shelf connectorized filters.
>
> *From:* George Skorup
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 10:42 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter
>
> ...why? I've swapped several Exalt diplexers in the field.
>
> Yes, it would require a more traditional design. Just sayin.
>
> On 3/6/2018 11:38 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
>
> The waveguide interface would limit the ability to change the diplexers ..
> I think
>
> On 3/6/18, 12:49 PM, "Af on behalf of George Skorup" 
> ï¿½
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> on behalf of george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>
> >I would think it's in UBNT's best interest to keep supplying you with
> >the boots since it will help them sell the AF11. How many of us have
> >dishes on towers with Remec ODUs? A lot.
> >
> >OTOH, silicone-rubber tape is cheap. The boots obviously make it easier
> >to replace a failed radio though.
> >
> >I still don't understand why it wasn't just a waveguide interface from
> >the get-go, but whatever.
> >
> >On 3/6/2018 10:36 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> >> I have been selling them one off at $175 each but I truly don't know
> >> my costs yet.ï¿½ The price may get adjusted after I actually ship a
> >> quantity so I know my real production volume pricing.
> >>
> >> N on the radio, SMA on the feedhorn.
> >>
> >> UBNT has been supplying the boots to me... so far.
> >>
> >> The SMA ships with a chunk of heat shrink to seal it.
> >>
> >> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 9:03 AM
> >> To: af@afmug.com
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter
> >>
> >> Price, and how do we order them?ï¿½ Are those Customer Jumpers, or N to
> >> N?ï¿½ What are the weatherproofing options?
> >>
> >> On 3/6/2018 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> >>> Booth was extra hard to set up our display.
> >>
> >
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session

2018-03-06 Thread Chuck McCown

Pick a date.  I am thinking June.  First to third week.  Maybe second week 
since it is already March and I have not got the date set.  Once we have a date 
I will shop venues for the first day.  Second day will be at my shop in Lake 
Point I think.  

From: Dave 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 10:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session

Im not at wispAmerica, but What do you need to get it going. 

Dave

On 03/05/2018 07:24 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  Stop by our booth at WISPAmerica and help us get the AnimalFarm Summer 2018 
session on the calendar.ï¿½ I am thinking the first week in June.

--

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

2018-03-06 Thread Chuck McCown

And you also paid Exalt prices.  

I think UBNT used off the shelf connectorized filters.  

From: George Skorup 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 10:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

...why? I've swapped several Exalt diplexers in the field.

Yes, it would require a more traditional design. Just sayin.


On 3/6/2018 11:38 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:

  The waveguide interface would limit the ability to change the diplexers ..
  I think

  On 3/6/18, 12:49 PM, "Af on behalf of George Skorup"  wrote:

  >I would think it's in UBNT's best interest to keep supplying you with
  >the boots since it will help them sell the AF11. How many of us have
  >dishes on towers with Remec ODUs? A lot.
  >
  >OTOH, silicone-rubber tape is cheap. The boots obviously make it easier
  >to replace a failed radio though.
  >
  >I still don't understand why it wasn't just a waveguide interface from
  >the get-go, but whatever.
  >
  >On 3/6/2018 10:36 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
  >> I have been selling them one off at $175 each but I truly don't know
  >> my costs yet.ï¿½ The price may get adjusted after I actually ship a
  >> quantity so I know my real production volume pricing.
  >>
  >> N on the radio, SMA on the feedhorn.
  >>
  >> UBNT has been supplying the boots to me... so far.
  >>
  >> The SMA ships with a chunk of heat shrink to seal it.
  >>
  >> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke
  >> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 9:03 AM
  >> To: af@afmug.com
  >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter
  >>
  >> Price, and how do we order them?ï¿½ Are those Customer Jumpers, or N to
  >> N?ï¿½ What are the weatherproofing options?
  >>
  >> On 3/6/2018 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
  >>> Booth was extra hard to set up our display.
  >>
  >

Re: [AFMUG] AF Summer Session

2018-03-06 Thread Dave


Im not at wispAmerica, but What do you need to get it going.

Dave


On 03/05/2018 07:24 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Stop by our booth at WISPAmerica and help us get the AnimalFarm Summer 
2018 session on the calendar.ï¿½ I am thinking the first week in June.


--

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

2018-03-06 Thread George Skorup


...why? I've swapped several Exalt diplexers in the field.

Yes, it would require a more traditional design. Just sayin.

On 3/6/2018 11:38 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:

The waveguide interface would limit the ability to change the diplexers ..
I think

On 3/6/18, 12:49 PM, "Af on behalf of George Skorup"  wrote:

>I would think it's in UBNT's best interest to keep supplying you with
>the boots since it will help them sell the AF11. How many of us have
>dishes on towers with Remec ODUs? A lot.
>
>OTOH, silicone-rubber tape is cheap. The boots obviously make it easier
>to replace a failed radio though.
>
>I still don't understand why it wasn't just a waveguide interface from
>the get-go, but whatever.
>
>On 3/6/2018 10:36 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> I have been selling them one off at $175 each but I truly don't know
>> my costs yet.ï¿½ The price may get adjusted after I actually ship a
>> quantity so I know my real production volume pricing.
>>
>> N on the radio, SMA on the feedhorn.
>>
>> UBNT has been supplying the boots to me... so far.
>>
>> The SMA ships with a chunk of heat shrink to seal it.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 9:03 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter
>>
>> Price, and how do we order them?ï¿½ Are those Customer Jumpers, or N to
>> N?ï¿½ What are the weatherproofing options?
>>
>> On 3/6/2018 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>> Booth was extra hard to set up our display.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

2018-03-06 Thread Gino A. Villarini

The waveguide interface would limit the ability to change the diplexers ..
I think

On 3/6/18, 12:49 PM, "Af on behalf of George Skorup"  wrote:

>I would think it's in UBNT's best interest to keep supplying you with
>the boots since it will help them sell the AF11. How many of us have
>dishes on towers with Remec ODUs? A lot.
>
>OTOH, silicone-rubber tape is cheap. The boots obviously make it easier
>to replace a failed radio though.
>
>I still don't understand why it wasn't just a waveguide interface from
>the get-go, but whatever.
>
>On 3/6/2018 10:36 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> I have been selling them one off at $175 each but I truly don't know
>> my costs yet.  The price may get adjusted after I actually ship a
>> quantity so I know my real production volume pricing.
>>
>> N on the radio, SMA on the feedhorn.
>>
>> UBNT has been supplying the boots to me... so far.
>>
>> The SMA ships with a chunk of heat shrink to seal it.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 9:03 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter
>>
>> Price, and how do we order them?  Are those Customer Jumpers, or N to
>> N?  What are the weatherproofing options?
>>
>> On 3/6/2018 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>> Booth was extra hard to set up our display.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

2018-03-06 Thread Chuck McCown

There is a feature on the radio that does not lend itself to sealing without 
their boot.
They recess the N connector and the housing has a boss with a lip that 
surrounds the N connector.


So a boot is needed.  I can have them made but I prefer to not  have to do 
that.
No idea if I will ever sell enough of these things to pay for the cost of 
the boot mold.


-Original Message- 
From: George Skorup

Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 9:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

I would think it's in UBNT's best interest to keep supplying you with
the boots since it will help them sell the AF11. How many of us have
dishes on towers with Remec ODUs? A lot.

OTOH, silicone-rubber tape is cheap. The boots obviously make it easier
to replace a failed radio though.

I still don't understand why it wasn't just a waveguide interface from
the get-go, but whatever.

On 3/6/2018 10:36 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I have been selling them one off at $175 each but I truly don't know my 
costs yet.  The price may get adjusted after I actually ship a quantity so 
I know my real production volume pricing.


N on the radio, SMA on the feedhorn.

UBNT has been supplying the boots to me... so far.

The SMA ships with a chunk of heat shrink to seal it.

-Original Message- From: Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 9:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

Price, and how do we order them?  Are those Customer Jumpers, or N to
N?  What are the weatherproofing options?

On 3/6/2018 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Booth was extra hard to set up our display.

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

2018-03-06 Thread George Skorup

I would think it's in UBNT's best interest to keep supplying you with 
the boots since it will help them sell the AF11. How many of us have 
dishes on towers with Remec ODUs? A lot.


OTOH, silicone-rubber tape is cheap. The boots obviously make it easier 
to replace a failed radio though.


I still don't understand why it wasn't just a waveguide interface from 
the get-go, but whatever.


On 3/6/2018 10:36 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I have been selling them one off at $175 each but I truly don't know 
my costs yet.  The price may get adjusted after I actually ship a 
quantity so I know my real production volume pricing.


N on the radio, SMA on the feedhorn.

UBNT has been supplying the boots to me... so far.

The SMA ships with a chunk of heat shrink to seal it.

-Original Message- From: Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 9:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

Price, and how do we order them?  Are those Customer Jumpers, or N to
N?  What are the weatherproofing options?

On 3/6/2018 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Booth was extra hard to set up our display.

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

2018-03-06 Thread Mathew Howard

Ah, interesting... I assumed they were UBNT jumpers mostly because of the
boot, but if you got them to sell you just the boot, that makes sense.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> They are not UBNT jumpers for two reasons:
> 1)Those jumpers are pretty expensive if you just buy them from UBNT by
> themselves.
> 2)UBNT is RP SMA.  No legal reason to do RP SMA.  Mine are regular SMA.
>
> But they are designed for 11 GHz.  RG-402.  Cables are swept with a
> network analyzer.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 9:33 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter
>
> I could be wrong, but I think those are the UBNT jumpers (they do sell
> them separately from their antennas), and they appear to be SMA to N... as
> I recall, most N connectors won't work at 11ghz, so you do need to have the
> proper jumpers. I would think weather proofing options would be the same as
> any other antenna cables.
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> Price, and how do we order them?  Are those Customer Jumpers, or N to N?
>> What are the weatherproofing options?
>>
>>
>> On 3/6/2018 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>>> Booth was extra hard to set up our display.
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] fiber cost per home directional and pole attach

2018-03-06 Thread Keefe John

I've seen $3500 - $6500 per home passed, depending on what you are doing.

Keefe

On March 6, 2018 12:44:43 AM CST, TJ Trout  wrote:
>I'm looking at venturing into fiber, I've done enough research and
>bugged
>most of you on the list that I think I have enough knowledge to get
>going
>(and be dangerous).
>
>I'm looking at two options for our area,
>
>1. Service newer subdivisions of houses that are currently served by
>cable
>and dsl with speeds up to 1G in certain areas, average is about 50mbps,
>this would be an all directional drill job underground.
>
>What is a good cost per ft, or cost per house passed for drilling,
>conduit
>and fiber?
>
>2. Service the older side of town that has mostly overhead utilities by
>signing an attachment agreement with the local power company, much
>lower
>deployment cost and generally a more 'under served' area but also a
>lower
>income area, using almost 100% pole attachments.
>
>What is a good cost per ft or house passed (these are all small
>1000-2000ft2 homes with small parcels) for cable, and pole attachment
>fee's, lashing, etc?
>
>I'm looking at PON but may go AE depending on some factors
>
>Anyone bored enough to throw some advice my way?
>
>Thank you!
>
>TJ Trout

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

2018-03-06 Thread Chuck McCown

They are not UBNT jumpers for two reasons:
1)Those jumpers are pretty expensive if you just buy them from UBNT by 
themselves.
2)UBNT is RP SMA.  No legal reason to do RP SMA.  Mine are regular SMA.

But they are designed for 11 GHz.  RG-402.  Cables are swept with a network 
analyzer.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 9:33 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

I could be wrong, but I think those are the UBNT jumpers (they do sell them 
separately from their antennas), and they appear to be SMA to N... as I recall, 
most N connectors won't work at 11ghz, so you do need to have the proper 
jumpers. I would think weather proofing options would be the same as any other 
antenna cables.


On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:

  Price, and how do we order them?  Are those Customer Jumpers, or N to N?  
What are the weatherproofing options? 


  On 3/6/2018 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Booth was extra hard to set up our display.

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

2018-03-06 Thread Chuck McCown

Thanks Gino,
We need to figure out how to electro-polish stainless so they look a bit 
better.  

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 9:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

They work perfectly!

On 3/6/18, 11:52 AM, "Af on behalf of Chuck McCown"  wrote:

>Booth was extra hard to set up our display.

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

2018-03-06 Thread Chuck McCown

I have been selling them one off at $175 each but I truly don't know my 
costs yet.  The price may get adjusted after I actually ship a quantity so I 
know my real production volume pricing.


N on the radio, SMA on the feedhorn.

UBNT has been supplying the boots to me... so far.

The SMA ships with a chunk of heat shrink to seal it.

-Original Message- 
From: Nate Burke

Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 9:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

Price, and how do we order them?  Are those Customer Jumpers, or N to
N?  What are the weatherproofing options?

On 3/6/2018 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Booth was extra hard to set up our display.

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

2018-03-06 Thread Mathew Howard

I could be wrong, but I think those are the UBNT jumpers (they do sell them
separately from their antennas), and they appear to be SMA to N... as I
recall, most N connectors won't work at 11ghz, so you do need to have the
proper jumpers. I would think weather proofing options would be the same as
any other antenna cables.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> Price, and how do we order them?  Are those Customer Jumpers, or N to N?
> What are the weatherproofing options?
>
>
> On 3/6/2018 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>> Booth was extra hard to set up our display.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

2018-03-06 Thread Gino A. Villarini

They work perfectly!

On 3/6/18, 11:52 AM, "Af on behalf of Chuck McCown"  wrote:

>Booth was extra hard to set up our display.

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

2018-03-06 Thread Nate Burke

Price, and how do we order them?  Are those Customer Jumpers, or N to 
N?  What are the weatherproofing options?


On 3/6/2018 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Booth was extra hard to set up our display.

Re: [AFMUG] WispAmerica AF11x to Remec adapter

2018-03-06 Thread Jaime Solorza

Did you have to deal with Union electricians? Have heard some war stories
from Epcom guys when they do trade shows ..

Jaime Solorza

On Mar 6, 2018 8:52 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> Booth was extra hard to set up our display.
>

Re: [AFMUG] fiber cost per home directional and pole attach

2018-03-06 Thread Clint Wiley

I don’t have much experience with directional drilling yet, but I can talk 
about my aerial experience. We currently construct GPON aerial fiber builds in 
some neighborhoods that sound similar to the one you describe. There are 
several important factors that will impact your build cost with the most 
volatile one being make ready. I’m getting better at predicting where make 
ready costs will make a build more expensive so I can better determine 
feasibility. In our area, I have three vendors to deal with; the power utility, 
the incumbent phone company and the cable provider. We have two pole owners and 
their poles sometimes are randomly mixed together. The power utility and phone 
company own those poles. We have to prepare engineering drawings with our 
applications for the pole attachments. Each of these applications is limited to 
99 poles because that’s the limit set by the ILEC. The engineering drawings run 
me a little over 1K per app from a regional engineering firm. They map the 
poles, take stick measurements, and prepare the apps. The ILEC charges us $5400 
per app as an application fee. The power company doesn’t charge anything, but 
their renal fees are four times higher. Make ready varies in cost. To make room 
on the poles, the pole owners will relocate lines and lights and anything else 
at a per hour cost. We’ve paid to replace a couple of poles and that gets 
expensive. I redesigned a run to avoid having to replace a single pole and in 
the future I may go underground to avoid bad poles. One benefit of make ready 
is that our power company takes that opportunity to cut back all trees along 
those routes. It makes our construction easier/faster and, at least for a few 
years, reduces the chance that branches will be falling across our lines. 

The other construction cost factor will revolve around how you design and 
deploy your network. Several other small fiber builders I know will deploy 
preterminated optitap cases instead of fusion splicing each drop. When you do 
that, all possible drops from that case are spliced during installation and 
that will up your initial construction costs. I opted to splice in each drop at 
the time of installation, which reduced the number of splices done during 
network construction. It takes us 2 -3 hours per install because we have to 
splice at the case and again at the home, but that cost is an ongoing one that 
I didn’t have to pay upfront. If we’d gone with an optitap system I think our 
installs would take half the time. We really save where we’ve deployed drop 
cases and they are underutilized. We can deploy a network designed for 80% take 
and not bear a significantly greater cost than designing for 40% take rates. 
But, we’re “constructing” part of our network each day (and that’s important 
for depreciation too). 

With our design and the uneven cost of make ready, we build at roughly $9/ft. 
That number also includes some design consultant costs. We use a couple of 
subcontractors for network construction and we do the installations ourselves. 
We’ve found the best subcontractors are motivated when paid by the foot for 
messenger cable and lashing installation and by the splice and per case 
install. As a side note, I’ve found that “lower income” residents statistically 
are more likely to buy our higher end (full gigabit) packages. YMMV. 

Thanks,
_
Clint Wiley
Hagerstown Fiber Internet

> On Mar 6, 2018, at 1:44 AM, TJ Trout  wrote:
> 
> I'm looking at venturing into fiber, I've done enough research and bugged 
> most of you on the list that I think I have enough knowledge to get going 
> (and be dangerous).
> 
> I'm looking at two options for our area,
> 
> 1. Service newer subdivisions of houses that are currently served by cable 
> and dsl with speeds up to 1G in certain areas, average is about 50mbps, this 
> would be an all directional drill job underground. 
> 
> What is a good cost per ft, or cost per house passed for drilling, conduit 
> and fiber?
> 
> 2. Service the older side of town that has mostly overhead utilities by 
> signing an attachment agreement with the local power company, much lower 
> deployment cost and generally a more 'under served' area but also a lower 
> income area, using almost 100% pole attachments.
> 
> What is a good cost per ft or house passed (these are all small 1000-2000ft2 
> homes with small parcels) for cable, and pole attachment fee's, lashing, etc?
> 
> I'm looking at PON but may go AE depending on some factors
> 
> Anyone bored enough to throw some advice my way?
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> TJ Trout

Re: [AFMUG] fiber cost per home directional and pole attach

2018-03-06 Thread Jason McKemie

There are a lot of factors that go into both the aerial and underground
costs. Entirely depends on the terrain, density of housing, city vs
country, pole make ready work, etc etc.

On Tuesday, March 6, 2018, TJ Trout  wrote:

> I'm looking at venturing into fiber, I've done enough research and bugged
> most of you on the list that I think I have enough knowledge to get going
> (and be dangerous).
>
> I'm looking at two options for our area,
>
> 1. Service newer subdivisions of houses that are currently served by cable
> and dsl with speeds up to 1G in certain areas, average is about 50mbps,
> this would be an all directional drill job underground.
>
> What is a good cost per ft, or cost per house passed for drilling, conduit
> and fiber?
>
> 2. Service the older side of town that has mostly overhead utilities by
> signing an attachment agreement with the local power company, much lower
> deployment cost and generally a more 'under served' area but also a lower
> income area, using almost 100% pole attachments.
>
> What is a good cost per ft or house passed (these are all small
> 1000-2000ft2 homes with small parcels) for cable, and pole attachment
> fee's, lashing, etc?
>
> I'm looking at PON but may go AE depending on some factors
>
> Anyone bored enough to throw some advice my way?
>
> Thank you!
>
> TJ Trout
>

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