Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux SiteMonitor Gigabit POE Boards?
That's wrong from what I'm told Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 31, 2014 8:33 AM, Erich Kaiser via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So Are the Gigabit POE boards available? 4/8 port? It says something about September.
Re: [AFMUG] OT: You think your hotel internet sucks?
Satellite? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 31, 2014 2:41 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Still in Accra, Ghana. I won't have full control over my own WAN connectivity until I'm in Sierra Leone. To my OpenVPN end point in Chicago: 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=328 ttl=44 time=35823.830 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=329 ttl=44 time=35670.255 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=330 ttl=44 time=36631.655 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=331 ttl=44 time=36991.921 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=332 ttl=44 time=38264.931 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=333 ttl=44 time=37747.913 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=334 ttl=44 time=37115.652 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=335 ttl=44 time=36670.680 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=336 ttl=44 time=35929.999 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=337 ttl=44 time=35625.236 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=338 ttl=44 time=34662.884 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=339 ttl=44 time=34074.305 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=340 ttl=44 time=33121.928 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=341 ttl=44 time=32353.936 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=345 ttl=44 time=28718.398 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=347 ttl=44 time=26997.230 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=354 ttl=44 time=20525.829 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=355 ttl=44 time=19915.944 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=356 ttl=44 time=19184.626 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=357 ttl=44 time=18757.754 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=364 ttl=44 time=7289.139 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=365 ttl=44 time=6797.058 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=366 ttl=44 time=6988.131 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=367 ttl=44 time=8027.773 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=368 ttl=44 time=9274.591 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=369 ttl=44 time=12193.188 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=370 ttl=44 time=15499.858 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=371 ttl=44 time=17101.477 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=372 ttl=44 time=17255.458 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=373 ttl=44 time=16704.022 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=374 ttl=44 time=16296.078 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=375 ttl=44 time=15979.370 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=376 ttl=44 time=15395.257 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=377 ttl=44 time=14846.662 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=378 ttl=44 time=14458.502 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=379 ttl=44 time=14213.088 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=380 ttl=44 time=15097.825 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=381 ttl=44 time=14506.442 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=382 ttl=44 time=14244.345 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=383 ttl=44 time=13698.292 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=384 ttl=44 time=12826.512 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=385 ttl=44 time=12255.279 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=386 ttl=44 time=11669.360 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=387 ttl=44 time=10953.765 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=388 ttl=44 time=10215.605 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=389 ttl=44 time=9903.748 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=390 ttl=44 time=9627.079 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=391 ttl=44 time=9441.339 ms 64 bytes from 192.210.233.55: icmp_seq=392 ttl=44 time=16774.935 ms
Re: [AFMUG] Double postings on AF list - Fix?
I'm not. Are you talking about getting your own messages? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 10:02 AM, Andreas Wiatowski via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hi All, Ever since the new list I get posts x2. Is everyone seeing the same thing? Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 1-866-727-4138 x-600 Web: www.silowireless.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/silowireless Twitter: @silowireless
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
tl;dr should go in bold at the top not the bottom! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Thanks Paul, It must be mentioned, Paul is doing this out of the goodness of his heart. Nothing in it for him. So, be kind when you bitch. *From:* Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 8:55 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Well…… As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it. There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers. That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list J In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the “Amazon verified email” method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email. This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend “stuff” just like we want it to.) The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn’t pull the trigger on the switchover. Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. Here’s what will happen…. All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address. The verification emails are good for 24 hours only. The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can’t change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc. Probably on Friday, we will turn on “normal headers”. If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. We will monitor the changes closely and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. *To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly. It’s important. Follow the instructions please.* Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Simple Alarm Panel
APC + card is probably 300 or 400 and does everything. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Not terribly cheap, are they? -Original Message- From: Nate Burke via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 8:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Simple Alarm Panel Depending on how many contacts you need, the APC boards work well. like the AP9619. You can get a single chassis for it that you just power. It has 1 set of contact closures, and will send an email when it trips. On 12/30/2014 9:18 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: I was asking a similar question a week or two ago. There are some small developer type of boards in the $40 range. One could do it by just looping back an ethernet port if you had some way to send traps when that port changed state. -Original Message- From: Matt via Af Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 6:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Simple Alarm Panel Looking for an economical device with contact closure inputs that will send email and text alerts using a provided Internet connection. Say a door is opened at a tower site I want an email or text message or both. Anyone know of anything? Thinking of using something like an Arduino but hate to reinvent the wheel.
Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer
Nanobeam for tight focal point. Picostation for a 6dbi omni (or if you want to change antenna). Both run AirOS/Airview which is a real spectrum analyzer. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What is a good lower cost spectrum analyzer to help techs sniff out customer’s wifi coverage?
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Didn't know it was broken. Gmail works just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:42 PM, David via Af af@afmug.com wrote: YEAAA a threading FIX On 12/30/2014 11:18 AM, Curtis Brotherton via Af wrote: Here comes the Amazon Verification Email � Click the link in the email, and that will verify your email address as valid with Amazon.� � I will be flipping the switch tomorrow that restores the headers to display the actual person and email address of the sender (which also fixes the threading)��� J � === Curtis Brotherton PDMNet (772) 564-6800 � *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:55 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon � Well�� � As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it.� There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers.� That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list J�� � In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the �Amazon verified email� method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email.� This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend �stuff� just like we want it to.)�� The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. � We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn�t pull the trigger on the switchover.� Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. � We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. � Here�s what will happen�. � All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address.� The verification emails are good for 24 hours only.� The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can�t change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc.� �Probably on Friday, we will turn on �normal headers�.�� If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. �We will monitor the changes closely� and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. � *To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly.� It�s important.� Follow the instructions please.* � Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net �
Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer
Linktechs has a device, not sure if dual band Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 12:45 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Looking more for a handheld device that has a nice screen, dual band. *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:42 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer Nanobeam for tight focal point. Picostation for a 6dbi omni (or if you want to change antenna). Both run AirOS/Airview which is a real spectrum analyzer. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What is a good lower cost spectrum analyzer to help techs sniff out customer’s wifi coverage?
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Haven't seen mine as of 10 minutes ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:28 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can you let us know when they're finished sending out so we know if ours is lost? ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
W comes before L? Blasphemy. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:49 PM, Simon Westlake via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I got mine literally 30 seconds ago, I think they are going out slowly. On 12/30/2014 12:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Haven't seen mine as of 10 minutes ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:28 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can you let us know when they're finished sending out so we know if ours is lost? ~Seth -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com
Re: [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed?
Trick question, wasn't broken. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Maybe J *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 3:13 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed? a yes or a no -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed?
Gmail is labeling it as spam - ouch! Mine came at 1:24 PM Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Read Paul's email. On Tuesday, December 30, 2014, Dennis Burgess via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I registered and/or clicked that link and its still coming from af@afmug.com ;) Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 2:05 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed? The From was definitely broken. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:56:25 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed? Trick question, wasn't broken. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Maybe J *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 3:13 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed? a yes or a no -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed?
Wow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:42 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Im so happy Im not even going to beat my kids tonite On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Well then obviously GMail is broken. *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 2:14 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed? Gmail is labeling it as spam - ouch! Mine came at 1:24 PM Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Read Paul's email. On Tuesday, December 30, 2014, Dennis Burgess via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I registered and/or clicked that link and its still coming from af@afmug.com ;) Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 2:05 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed? The From was definitely broken. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:56:25 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed? Trick question, wasn't broken. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Maybe J *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 3:13 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed? a yes or a no -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer
If you're just looking for Wifi stuff I'd use this too. Doesn't sound like you need 2.4, just Wifi. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Android cell phone app. Free! Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer Looking for something under $300 -Original Message- From: Daniel White via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer Compared to what ;-) Certainly a lot less than an Agilent/Keysight Fieldfox or Anritsu Sitemaster. Honestly I doubt it’s the tool you want for this job. I think you pick your poison - WiFi based are thinks like WiSpy, or even an app on an Android phone... or you go all out for a spectrum analyzer like Aaronia or SAF (which is a whole different debate). Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer Spendy as I recall. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer On 12/30/14 9:45, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Looking more for a handheld device that has a nice screen, dual band. SAF Spectrum Compact has a model for 2.000 - 8.000 GHz. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer
Need to request a quote =/ http://www.bvsystems.com/Products/Spectrum/BumbleBee-EX/bumblebee-exRFQ.htm Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Looking at everything. Fluke has a nice one. Cannot find a price for this device: BumbleBee-EX Spectrum Analyzer From: Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer If you're just looking for Wifi stuff I'd use this too. Doesn't sound like you need 2.4, just Wifi. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Android cell phone app. Free! Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer Looking for something under $300 -Original Message- From: Daniel White via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer Compared to what ;-) Certainly a lot less than an Agilent/Keysight Fieldfox or Anritsu Sitemaster. Honestly I doubt it’s the tool you want for this job. I think you pick your poison - WiFi based are thinks like WiSpy, or even an app on an Android phone... or you go all out for a spectrum analyzer like Aaronia or SAF (which is a whole different debate). Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer Spendy as I recall. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer On 12/30/14 9:45, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Looking more for a handheld device that has a nice screen, dual band. SAF Spectrum Compact has a model for 2.000 - 8.000 GHz. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer
mailinator.com (or use another one of their domains =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I don’t want the spam. *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:56 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer Need to request a quote =/ http://www.bvsystems.com/Products/Spectrum/BumbleBee-EX/bumblebee-exRFQ.htm Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Looking at everything. Fluke has a nice one. Cannot find a price for this device: BumbleBee-EX Spectrum Analyzer From: Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer If you're just looking for Wifi stuff I'd use this too. Doesn't sound like you need 2.4, just Wifi. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Android cell phone app. Free! Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 %28303%29%20746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer Looking for something under $300 -Original Message- From: Daniel White via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer Compared to what ;-) Certainly a lot less than an Agilent/Keysight Fieldfox or Anritsu Sitemaster. Honestly I doubt it’s the tool you want for this job. I think you pick your poison - WiFi based are thinks like WiSpy, or even an app on an Android phone... or you go all out for a spectrum analyzer like Aaronia or SAF (which is a whole different debate). Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 %28303%29%20746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer Spendy as I recall. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer On 12/30/14 9:45, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Looking more for a handheld device that has a nice screen, dual band. SAF Spectrum Compact has a model for 2.000 - 8.000 GHz. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed?
Ya Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 4:22 PM, justsumname . via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Testing 1 2 3 ... this thingy still worky?? -- On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Timothy D. McNabb via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I clicked on the link and I liked it J -Tim *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:50 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed? I could try, but they are all over 18 and some of them outweigh me. (I do have boxing gloves, hard to get them to spar with me for some reason. Fear, pity, respect, apathy?) *From:* That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:42 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed? Im so happy Im not even going to beat my kids tonite On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Well then obviously GMail is broken. *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 2:14 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed? Gmail is labeling it as spam - ouch! Mine came at 1:24 PM Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Read Paul's email. On Tuesday, December 30, 2014, Dennis Burgess via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I registered and/or clicked that link and its still coming from af@afmug.com ;) Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 2:05 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed? The From was definitely broken. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:56:25 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed? Trick question, wasn't broken. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Maybe J *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 3:13 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] is the list going to get fixed? a yes or a no -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] did the verification email go out?
I got mine but I had to look in (Gmail's) spam folder. Search AMAZON SES Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I haven’t seen it. Although, that in itself may be a clue… Rory Conaway Triad Wireless 4226 S. 37th Street Phoenix, Az. 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net “Mediocrity finds safety in standardization. -- Frederick Crane”
Re: [AFMUG] did the verification email go out?
Deleted permanently? That's...interesting... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Deleted dubious looking verification email and then read here that I was supposed to click it.. doh. Too late. *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] UBNT equipment - Atlanta
I think he'd be happy with a Pico and/or Nanostation. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Matt Hardy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We do have a top-secret office in Midtown ;) Mostly development; we don't keep a lot of equipment here though... what do you need? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: UBNT does actually have an Atlanta office... and Chicago, Los Angeles, San Diego, Taiwan, and a few other places... :P josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/28/2014 05:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Matt lives down there... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 28, 2014 9:32 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc t...@franklinisp.net wrote: I need help. Who here has some UBNT equipment in Atlanta ? Came down to my brother in laws. They moved to another house in Cobb County. Have a three story home with a Belkin. Wifi sucks. Will never be able to work here ! Doesn't UBNT have a downtown Atlanta office ? Sent from my iPhone ___ Members mailing listMembers@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The alignment functionality is a an absolute joke. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I would be jumping off the roof myself. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as bad as it is. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The alignment functionality is a an absolute joke. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I would be jumping off the roof myself. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity!
Everything I have is 2.3. Aligning the radios suck - the 5 second refresh is the best option =( Ubnt had it right - nice little pop up that simply gave you the RSSI every second (and would even beep!!!) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: When did you last use it? I'm clicking around a backhaul I've got running 2.2 and it seems awfully responsive. Loading each screen is damn near instantaneous. It doesn't require the reboot that UBNT requires when changing anything not involving the radio. I'm not sure what everyone's beef is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 1:11:28 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Just because it's better than something worse doesn't justify leaving it as bad as it is. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Use ArcMap. You'll have a new metric for non-responsive. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 1:08:21 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! The interface is pretty clunky. It needs to be made more responsive. The alignment functionality is a an absolute joke. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They're not perfect, but they're far from that bad. Ignoring the mechanics of the Force 100, 10 minutes to upgrade and configure? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 12:59:18 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! Amen brother, if I was on the roof for three hours with one of those radios I would be jumping off the roof myself. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Ryan Goldberg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was a relatively early adopter. Not believing my techs, I went to the field one day, to “show them what’s up” – no technology can do battle with me! After 3 hours I pitched that f*cker off the roof and issued a cease a desist. We’re sitting on 20ish units waiting for everyone else to burn the bugs out now. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 12:39 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] EPMP insanity! I can't take it anymore, I'm going back to UBNT for non-FSK/450 stuff. I can no longer deal with the slow and horrible EPMP interface. I thought it would get better as the firmware matured but its not getting any better, Just loaded the latest firmware 2.3.3 and its still slower than a turtle going in the wrong direction. For crying out loud the old Tranzeo interface is faster than this! Chrome, and IE 11 it doesn't matter it literally takes me 30 minutes to config one of these radios. By the time you upgrade the firmware and try to upload a template to one. (never does want to take a backup config is always erroring out) I can't afford to be sitting at the bench all day fiddling with these radios. You can't even type text in the fields that already have characters in them without getting some weird outcome. Everytime i go to deal with one of these radios i always end up with obscenities coming out of my mouth and I even have a hole punched in a wall in the shop cause i got so frustrated with one a few weeks back. Maybe Bitlomat will come out with third party firmware for these and save us all Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction
Seagate, years ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 29, 2014 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They were bought out a while back. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: WD went under? On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: There is probably a bunch of good stuff here: http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digitalutm_campaign=DigitalWesternutm_medium=email -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] UBNT equipment - Atlanta
Matt lives down there... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 28, 2014 9:32 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc t...@franklinisp.net wrote: I need help. Who here has some UBNT equipment in Atlanta ? Came down to my brother in laws. They moved to another house in Cobb County. Have a three story home with a Belkin. Wifi sucks. Will never be able to work here ! Doesn't UBNT have a downtown Atlanta office ? Sent from my iPhone ___ Members mailing list memb...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet
Two WAN like Canopy. I believe it was added in 2.3.3. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 11:46 AM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Has anyone figured out how to lock down an ePMP radio so it can not be accessed from the Internet? In bridged mode this is not a problem since the Radio can be configured for a private IP. As soon as NAT is enabled and a public IP is used on the radio the management interface is exposed. We got Cambium to implement a secondary IP for management but the radio still responds on the Public side of the NAT. Could this just be an oversight on their part? Steve B
Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report
Powercode does bits down to the minute. If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability to show a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption. My thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a limited period of time so details could be collected. A sort of debug mode. Steve B
Re: [AFMUG] Photos form Accra, Ghana
Omni at the top =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That perfectly good tower seems to only have one backhaul on it?!?! Time to fill it up Eric! Sean On Friday, December 26, 2014, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Attached JPGs
Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB
Ya I talked to Doug yesterday. Still chugging along :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 3:46 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So, for some reason, I actually logged into FB today. (Good thing I did as it reminded me my sister turns 60 on the first.) And it also showed me that Doug Clark recently had a birthday. I would say “Happy Birthday Doug” if he was still hanging around with the rest of us. So, then I got to thinking about good old Doug. Is he still doing his thang?? Went to his web site. Yep, looks like someone is still chugging along up there. But what is this I see!!! Unlimited usage for the same price??? Holy Crap!
Re: [AFMUG] Lease options
Roughly 10% finance charges. I've worked with LCA for a while. Just look for the basics like $1 buyout, good record with vendors and such. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Saw the ad from Ritalia a couple weeks back, and it may suit our purposes to get some extra equipment in the air sooner than our more typical pay-from-cash-flow model. Has anyone worked with these folks or have other leasing companies that they like better? What is the metric on what we should be expecting to pay for this service ($x MRC versus $y equipment purchase cost)? -- -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
Re: [AFMUG] Someone automated their Speed test
It's good to know there are still rude people out there. I was beginning to worry. Thanks for the heads up! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Been trying to track down a 20 second 400mb spike in outbound traffic that has been happening every 10 minutes all day. Finally tracked it down to my Speedtest.net server. Someone automated pulling the test files via HTTP. It shows up in my server logs, but not in the speedtest.net reports. They simultaneously pull 8 copies of all 10 test .jpg files. I've blocked their IP Address, automating it like that just seems a little rude. Just wanted to give anyone else running a speedtest.net server a heads up. Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations
What's wrong with using a Ubnt AirCam? http://inxwireless.com/rain/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Paul Conlin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This question comes up on the list periodically but I haven’t seen if for a while. A 400 ft tower owner wants a camera to look down on his commercial business park. We might install and provide local bandwidth for free if they buy the camera. A little good will between us, them, and the community. So knowing this is not a money maker for anyone, how much money are we talking to get something that doesn’t suck? It would have to be PTZ and decent resolution. Good low light would be nice but no IR illuminators needed, obviously. I assume a small heater is required to avoid condensation but I don’t know that. Are these available POE? PC Blaze Broadband
Re: [AFMUG] Someone automated their Speed test
Waste of your time IMO. Not very fun. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I guess what I should do is set them up so that their IP Address is queued to a random speed each time they pull the files. Or would that be rude? On 12/26/2014 4:28 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: It's good to know there are still rude people out there. I was beginning to worry. Thanks for the heads up! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Been trying to track down a 20 second 400mb spike in outbound traffic that has been happening every 10 minutes all day. Finally tracked it down to my Speedtest.net server. Someone automated pulling the test files via HTTP. It shows up in my server logs, but not in the speedtest.net reports. They simultaneously pull 8 copies of all 10 test .jpg files. I've blocked their IP Address, automating it like that just seems a little rude. Just wanted to give anyone else running a speedtest.net server a heads up. Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations
Philip, Weather stuff is Wunderground (check the image URLs). Ubnt camera is on the tower above my head. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Philip Rankin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Josh, is that your own webpage construction or are you farming that out to someone somehow? Phil On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What's wrong with using a Ubnt AirCam? http://inxwireless.com/rain/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Paul Conlin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This question comes up on the list periodically but I haven’t seen if for a while. A 400 ft tower owner wants a camera to look down on his commercial business park. We might install and provide local bandwidth for free if they buy the camera. A little good will between us, them, and the community. So knowing this is not a money maker for anyone, how much money are we talking to get something that doesn’t suck? It would have to be PTZ and decent resolution. Good low light would be nice but no IR illuminators needed, obviously. I assume a small heater is required to avoid condensation but I don’t know that. Are these available POE? PC Blaze Broadband -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
Getting ARP for the gateway? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 8:47 PM, cstanners--- via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Please paste the screenshot... Just that part of the window please. Are you certain that you have the right gateway? -- *From: * joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com *Sender: * Af af-boun...@afmug.com *Date: *Sat, 27 Dec 2014 00:44:25 + *To: *af@afmug.com *ReplyTo: * af@afmug.com *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Yea i did wasn't thinking when I done it I done trace route and it times out when I point it to my gateway address and charter DNS server so I'm lost as hell now On Dec 26, 2014 6:19 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Guys, Its a season to be jolly! Lol Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Dec 26, 2014, at 8:16 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Did you really just post a 5 megabyte, camera photo of a screen, rather than using a screenshot tool? On Dec 26, 2014 8:24 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On Dec 26, 2014 2:12 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Screen shot? On Dec 26, 2014 2:11 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ip-routes says everything is reachable On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default gateway. On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip gateway and DNS. When I go to new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no route to host What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple
Re: [AFMUG] Someone automated their Speed test
That's not how they test Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 10:31 PM, TJ Trout via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It's ookla! they are making sure that your server doesn't suck On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I take it this is someone out on the Internet, not one of your customers? -Original Message- From: Nate Burke via Af Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 4:27 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Someone automated their Speed test Been trying to track down a 20 second 400mb spike in outbound traffic that has been happening every 10 minutes all day. Finally tracked it down to my Speedtest.net server. Someone automated pulling the test files via HTTP. It shows up in my server logs, but not in the speedtest.net reports. They simultaneously pull 8 copies of all 10 test .jpg files. I've blocked their IP Address, automating it like that just seems a little rude. Just wanted to give anyone else running a speedtest.net server a heads up. Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Playstation, Xbox Live networks reported down?
I can't play a single player game... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yep my brother can't play his new game Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Well, at least they took down both, so as to not give an unfair advantage to one. :P From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Ken Hohhof via Af [ af@afmug.com] Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Playstation, Xbox Live networks reported down? https://gigaom.com/2014/12/25/scrooges-strike-xbox-live-playstation-network-hacked-outage/
Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...
Get a few 55 gallon drums. That's what we did around 2006. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 24, 2014 9:44 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I wish I had a 50,000 gallon tank and I wish that gas did not have a shelf life. *From:* Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:51 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... Gas at 1.87 a gallon today Jaime Solorza On Dec 23, 2014 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: As long as they leave my shrubbery alone. Jaime Solorza On Dec 23, 2014 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I think we still have a citadel or two, don’t we? *From:* Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:12 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... Well, North Korea threatened to blow up our “citadels” in retaliation. “Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die.” - Mel Brooks *From:* Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:48 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... Polemic movie. I thought it was a comedy Jaime Solorza On Dec 23, 2014 12:34 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yes, it is the top local newspaper Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Legit news source? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:09:13 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... http://www.elnuevodia.com/puertoricoestrenaralapolemicapeliculatheinterview-1915932.html News in spanish, but local chain to screen the Movie… who gots the cojo… now?? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] Is this what a dDOS attack looks like?
Surprised it was that short... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 24, 2014 11:45 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Welcome to teh suck. And the target is almost always an Xbox kid. On 12/24/2014 10:13 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: One of our routers showed a massive increase in traffic last night around 19:15 Pacific time (see below). It didn't crash, but got super busy during that time, and appeared to be locked up. Nothing shows in the logs, but a segment of our network appeared to be unavailable for a few minutes. By the time I figured out what was going on, the traffic went away. -- -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 SM Antenna
Not even in the works. 2.4 is supposed to release q1 2015. The 5 GHz force110 just came out. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 2:13 PM, chuck--- via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Could be done but don’t they have a force 110 type of product for that? *From:* Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:13 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 SM Antenna Hey beehive chuck, What about a stinger for the connectorized 3.65 SM similar to the 900mhz stingers??? It'd be nice to have a slip-on solution that has a gain between a bare SM and a dish. -sean On Wednesday, December 24, 2014, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I tried. The internal antenna coupled with the larger wavelength made everything I tried impractical. I got 4-5 dB at most. Not worth building the tooling. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 SM Antenna I'm trying to find the response from somebody at Cambium when I asked about the feasibility of a CLIP for 3.65 GHz. I think it was something about too big and not enough gain. Obviously with the new case design you couldn't just slip a 5 GHz Stinger or CLIP on a 3.65 GHz SM to see what happens. But I suspect something 50% bigger than the existing CLIP and with 6 dB gain over a bare SM might make some people happy. Certainly it would be cheaper than an SMC plus a panel, and smaller than a reflector dish. Here's a scary thought, remember the LENS that weighed a ton? Make that 50% bigger and put it on the 3.65 SM which also weighs a ton, now you have 2 tons. -Original Message- From: Jon Langeler via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 SM Antenna ITElite Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Matt via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a few places I need more gain then a bare 450 3.65 SM but cannot fit a reflector. Is there a small panel antenna that works with the 450 3.65 SM?
Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support
Are you looking for tier1 support center or an over the phone PC repair shop? If they can't afford $100 to fix their $1000 Macbooks they will just end up buying a new $1000 Macbook. Give them 2-3 possible solutions and apologize that you can't help them. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Is there a service out there? For stuff that's clearly not our problem? I'm trying to take a firmer stance about not spending an hour on the phone walking someone through fixing their computer or router, because they are too lazy to Google it or use the manufacturer's website, or haven't a clue when it comes to computers. I give them the number for a computer shop, but often they say I can't pay $100 to have someone fix my computer or router or printer or smart TV. My business is at the size where I'm not big enough to make computer repair a profit center, but if I keep doing this stuff for free, I'm going to have to hire someone to do it, and that's not a cost I can absorb. Is there a place maybe with call centers in India that will do this for less? I know the telcos offer this service for a monthly fee, and I assume they are outsourcing it. Note that I'm not talking about phone support for Internet problems. Oh, and kudos to Apple for fixing the NTP vulnerability without asking permission. I can't believe the media is portraying this in a negative light. I'm tired of people who don't keep their computers and routers and other devices updated. Do people drive their cars until the engine freezes up because they are too lazy or cheap or clueless to get the oil changed? I suppose some do. Maybe we need the government to come do all these things for us.
Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 SM Antenna
Connectors don't care :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 24, 2014 3:03 PM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: plus force 110 is for epmp (as far as I'm aware) On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Not even in the works. 2.4 is supposed to release q1 2015. The 5 GHz force110 just came out. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 2:13 PM, chuck--- via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Could be done but don’t they have a force 110 type of product for that? *From:* Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:13 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 SM Antenna Hey beehive chuck, What about a stinger for the connectorized 3.65 SM similar to the 900mhz stingers??? It'd be nice to have a slip-on solution that has a gain between a bare SM and a dish. -sean On Wednesday, December 24, 2014, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I tried. The internal antenna coupled with the larger wavelength made everything I tried impractical. I got 4-5 dB at most. Not worth building the tooling. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 SM Antenna I'm trying to find the response from somebody at Cambium when I asked about the feasibility of a CLIP for 3.65 GHz. I think it was something about too big and not enough gain. Obviously with the new case design you couldn't just slip a 5 GHz Stinger or CLIP on a 3.65 GHz SM to see what happens. But I suspect something 50% bigger than the existing CLIP and with 6 dB gain over a bare SM might make some people happy. Certainly it would be cheaper than an SMC plus a panel, and smaller than a reflector dish. Here's a scary thought, remember the LENS that weighed a ton? Make that 50% bigger and put it on the 3.65 SM which also weighs a ton, now you have 2 tons. -Original Message- From: Jon Langeler via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 3.65 SM Antenna ITElite Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Matt via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a few places I need more gain then a bare 450 3.65 SM but cannot fit a reflector. Is there a small panel antenna that works with the 450 3.65 SM?
Re: [AFMUG] Lower signal on one end of PTP link
Same tx power on either side? If so it's hard to say, but you can look at the path and kinda guess. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 24, 2014 7:41 PM, Bruce Robertson via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I've been doing this enough years (decades?) that it seems like I should know this, but I'm having a brain-dead moment. Must be all the eggnog. I have an Airfiber 24 link. One end has a solid signal of -50/-50, and the other end varies around -53/-53 to as much as -55/-55. Which end is more likely to be slightly out of alignment? Or is it impossible to tell?
Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...
Watched it off Google Play. 10/10 did lol Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 24, 2014 10:04 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com wrote: too late for sprint, att, vzw, and tmo - Original Message - *From:* Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:20 AM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... It’s also an economics lesson for any of us who think about starting a price war with the industry cost leader, like the cable companies. I keep hearing the Saudis need oil to be $100, but I don’t see why. They just pump the stuff, the other guys are drilling and fracking. They probably need it to be $100 to support their economy and lifestyle since they don’t produce anything but oil, but they are probably profitable at $10. *From:* Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:04 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... It's just a little geopolitical Christmas present. The old joke - what's the best price of oil for OPEC? $100, $100, $100, $50, $100. When the price drops to $50 it kills all of the speculative drilling and investment in alternative energy, and then OPEC raises the price back and ensures they stay relevant. The low oil price also punishes a variety of political enemies - Russia, ISIS, Iran, and a couple of South American countries. The low price won't last, but it's nice for a while and plays into a number of political battles. Mark On 12/24/14 10:58 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Wonder what the play is there. How long will gas prices stay this low? And how low will they go? Saudi Arabia is in the drivers seat for now. Russia and a few of the OPEC nations are getting it in the shorts. Someone will blink. I'm betting that gas will turn around in 3-6 months. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/24/2014 7:11 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Yep: http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/energy/refined-products/rbob-gasoline.html *From:* Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 8:10 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... I wonder if you can purchase gasoline futures? *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 7:59 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... Get a few 55 gallon drums. That's what we did around 2006. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 24, 2014 9:44 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I wish I had a 50,000 gallon tank and I wish that gas did not have a shelf life. *From:* Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:51 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... Gas at 1.87 a gallon today Jaime Solorza On Dec 23, 2014 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: As long as they leave my shrubbery alone. Jaime Solorza On Dec 23, 2014 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I think we still have a citadel or two, don’t we? *From:* Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:12 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... Well, North Korea threatened to blow up our “citadels” in retaliation. “Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die.” - Mel Brooks *From:* Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:48 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... Polemic movie. I thought it was a comedy Jaime Solorza On Dec 23, 2014 12:34 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yes, it is the top local newspaper Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Legit news source? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:09:13 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... http://www.elnuevodia.com/puertoricoestrenaralapolemicapeliculatheinterview-1915932.html News in spanish, but local chain to screen the Movie… who gots the cojo… now?? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015
Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support
You can also do a per call plan. Just depends on your business. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 24, 2014 10:52 PM, Jeremy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Serverplus charges you per customer...more if you want them to do sales. I highly doubt they would help a customer move their taskbar back to the bottom from the right side of their screen. pccare or whatever would, but it costs the customer like ten bucks a month for a 'just in case' service. We just determine that it is not our problem and refer them to the manufacturer or offer a $44.95 service call to come out and help them. When we ask for the scheduling they usually say they'll just figure it out. On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 8:15 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com wrote: thats why i love reverse DHCP based on MAC. Tell us you have a new router, check the bridge table on the SM and update the mac. Additionally, a lot of people NAT the sms. Early days we had trouble with that and i've just never liked it... - Original Message - *From:* Philip Rankin via Af af@afmug.com *To:* af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 4:50 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support The first thing the manufacturer does is tell the customer to hard reset their router. If you use pppoe like we do, then someone has to re-setup the pppoe information. You are FAR better off to simply handle your customer computer problems yourself and charge a lot for the work! IMHO! On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That doesn't quite look like the answer. Maybe one approach is to push these people to call the manufacturer. I see that Linksys, Netgear, Belkin, DLink all have paid support after 30 days. Dell has paid support. Apple has Applecare. HP has SmartFriend which seems to cover a wide variety of problems and non HP computers, maybe that's where I should send them: https://h30617.www3.hp.com/HP/subscription-services/index.asp -Original Message- From: Tyler Treat via Af Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support Is securitycoverage.com still relevant? DTNSpeednet used to push it. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Dec 24, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Is there a service out there? For stuff that's clearly not our problem? I'm trying to take a firmer stance about not spending an hour on the phone walking someone through fixing their computer or router, because they are too lazy to Google it or use the manufacturer's website, or haven't a clue when it comes to computers. I give them the number for a computer shop, but often they say I can't pay $100 to have someone fix my computer or router or printer or smart TV. My business is at the size where I'm not big enough to make computer repair a profit center, but if I keep doing this stuff for free, I'm going to have to hire someone to do it, and that's not a cost I can absorb. Is there a place maybe with call centers in India that will do this for less? I know the telcos offer this service for a monthly fee, and I assume they are outsourcing it. Note that I'm not talking about phone support for Internet problems. Oh, and kudos to Apple for fixing the NTP vulnerability without asking permission. I can't believe the media is portraying this in a negative light. I'm tired of people who don't keep their computers and routers and other devices updated. Do people drive their cars until the engine freezes up because they are too lazy or cheap or clueless to get the oil changed? I suppose some do. Maybe we need the government to come do all these things for us. -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762
Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support
Phone can just use the web interface like a PC would. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My current problem is I scanned my network and found about 45 customers with UPnP open to the Internet, I think they are mostly DLinks with some older Linksys thrown in. I sent a little note to each of them recommending they update the firmware and/or disable UPnP, then run the Rapid7 “Scan My Router Now” test. There is even a DLink video telling you how to update your firmware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHnacMKb2ro I would venture a guess 99% of customers have never updated their router firmware. This is something IMHO they need to know how to do or pay someone to do, like changing the oil in your car. I think the only way Windows Update ever gets run is because the computer came with it configured for automatic updates. What’s scary is the trend toward people having only phones, tablets, game consoles, TVs, Rokus, etc. on their WiFi, no actual computers and certainly nothing with an Ethernet cable. How do you update the firmware on your router from a phone, if they want you to download the firmware to your computer and then upload it to the router? At least Netgear gives you buttons when you log into the router GUI to check for new firmware and to do the upgrade, without having to first store it on your computer. And as dependent as these remote support companies are on remote control software like Teamviewer and GoToSupport, how do they handle the customer with no computers? Do they remote into a phone or tablet? Even if that is possible, it’s got to be really clumsy to reprogram someone’s WiFi using a remote session to a WiFi device. *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support thats why i love reverse DHCP based on MAC. Tell us you have a new router, check the bridge table on the SM and update the mac. Additionally, a lot of people NAT the sms. Early days we had trouble with that and i've just never liked it... - Original Message - *From:* Philip Rankin via Af af@afmug.com *To:* af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 4:50 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support The first thing the manufacturer does is tell the customer to hard reset their router. If you use pppoe like we do, then someone has to re-setup the pppoe information. You are FAR better off to simply handle your customer computer problems yourself and charge a lot for the work! IMHO! On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That doesn't quite look like the answer. Maybe one approach is to push these people to call the manufacturer. I see that Linksys, Netgear, Belkin, DLink all have paid support after 30 days. Dell has paid support. Apple has Applecare. HP has SmartFriend which seems to cover a wide variety of problems and non HP computers, maybe that's where I should send them: https://h30617.www3.hp.com/HP/subscription-services/index.asp -Original Message- From: Tyler Treat via Af Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support Is securitycoverage.com still relevant? DTNSpeednet used to push it. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Dec 24, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Is there a service out there? For stuff that's clearly not our problem? I'm trying to take a firmer stance about not spending an hour on the phone walking someone through fixing their computer or router, because they are too lazy to Google it or use the manufacturer's website, or haven't a clue when it comes to computers. I give them the number for a computer shop, but often they say I can't pay $100 to have someone fix my computer or router or printer or smart TV. My business is at the size where I'm not big enough to make computer repair a profit center, but if I keep doing this stuff for free, I'm going to have to hire someone to do it, and that's not a cost I can absorb. Is there a place maybe with call centers in India that will do this for less? I know the telcos offer this service for a monthly fee, and I assume they are outsourcing it. Note that I'm not talking about phone support for Internet problems. Oh, and kudos to Apple for fixing the NTP vulnerability without asking permission. I can't believe the media is portraying this in a negative light. I'm tired of people who don't keep their computers and routers and other devices updated. Do people drive their cars until the engine freezes up
Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support
Yup Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 24, 2014 11:27 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can you go to the manufacturer download site, save the file to the phone, then go to the firmware update page in the router GUI, and browse to the file you saved earlier, just like on a PC? *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:20 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support Phone can just use the web interface like a PC would. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My current problem is I scanned my network and found about 45 customers with UPnP open to the Internet, I think they are mostly DLinks with some older Linksys thrown in. I sent a little note to each of them recommending they update the firmware and/or disable UPnP, then run the Rapid7 “Scan My Router Now” test. There is even a DLink video telling you how to update your firmware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHnacMKb2ro I would venture a guess 99% of customers have never updated their router firmware. This is something IMHO they need to know how to do or pay someone to do, like changing the oil in your car. I think the only way Windows Update ever gets run is because the computer came with it configured for automatic updates. What’s scary is the trend toward people having only phones, tablets, game consoles, TVs, Rokus, etc. on their WiFi, no actual computers and certainly nothing with an Ethernet cable. How do you update the firmware on your router from a phone, if they want you to download the firmware to your computer and then upload it to the router? At least Netgear gives you buttons when you log into the router GUI to check for new firmware and to do the upgrade, without having to first store it on your computer. And as dependent as these remote support companies are on remote control software like Teamviewer and GoToSupport, how do they handle the customer with no computers? Do they remote into a phone or tablet? Even if that is possible, it’s got to be really clumsy to reprogram someone’s WiFi using a remote session to a WiFi device. *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support thats why i love reverse DHCP based on MAC. Tell us you have a new router, check the bridge table on the SM and update the mac. Additionally, a lot of people NAT the sms. Early days we had trouble with that and i've just never liked it... - Original Message - *From:* Philip Rankin via Af af@afmug.com *To:* af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 4:50 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support The first thing the manufacturer does is tell the customer to hard reset their router. If you use pppoe like we do, then someone has to re-setup the pppoe information. You are FAR better off to simply handle your customer computer problems yourself and charge a lot for the work! IMHO! On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That doesn't quite look like the answer. Maybe one approach is to push these people to call the manufacturer. I see that Linksys, Netgear, Belkin, DLink all have paid support after 30 days. Dell has paid support. Apple has Applecare. HP has SmartFriend which seems to cover a wide variety of problems and non HP computers, maybe that's where I should send them: https://h30617.www3.hp.com/HP/subscription-services/index.asp -Original Message- From: Tyler Treat via Af Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support Is securitycoverage.com still relevant? DTNSpeednet used to push it. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Dec 24, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Is there a service out there? For stuff that's clearly not our problem? I'm trying to take a firmer stance about not spending an hour on the phone walking someone through fixing their computer or router, because they are too lazy to Google it or use the manufacturer's website, or haven't a clue when it comes to computers. I give them the number for a computer shop, but often they say I can't pay $100 to have someone fix my computer or router or printer or smart TV. My business is at the size where I'm not big enough to make computer repair a profit center, but if I keep doing this stuff for free, I'm going to have to hire someone to do it, and that's not a cost I can absorb. Is there a place
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?
Go to monitor wireless. That's all the APs it can see with the frequencies/sizes you've enabled. I would suggest limiting the frequencies to the band you're deployed in. Saves time in scanning. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 23, 2014 4:49 PM, Alan West via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hello all. I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to it from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running 5.7 at about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel. I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working at a customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working. I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at 5.9 miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of site (neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in the path. They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees deep. Each is along a creek. Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something configured wrong.
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?
Uhm my post detailed a 5.1 link at 7 miles? Got -67 and some very nice bandwidth bumps. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 23, 2014 4:58 PM, Alan West via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yah, my AP is not showing up there at all. But the refresh seems dreadfully slow on these. I have it set to 2 seconds. I only have the upper band from 5740-58xx checked. Are you successfully getting any kind of range with the 110s? On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Go to monitor wireless. That's all the APs it can see with the frequencies/sizes you've enabled. I would suggest limiting the frequencies to the band you're deployed in. Saves time in scanning. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 23, 2014 4:49 PM, Alan West via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hello all. I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to it from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running 5.7 at about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel. I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working at a customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working. I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at 5.9 miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of site (neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in the path. They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees deep. Each is along a creek. Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something configured wrong.
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?
I don't think you want to do NLOS in 5 GHz at all. That's why I doubled up APs and have 2/5 on each sector. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 23, 2014 5:16 PM, Brian Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Is it realistic to expect good performance through trees using 5 GHz? I could see trying to get a nLOS situation to work at 1 mile, but certainly not 5+. Do you have other APs on the tower that you can compare to? On 12/23/2014 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Uhm my post detailed a 5.1 link at 7 miles? Got -67 and some very nice bandwidth bumps. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 23, 2014 4:58 PM, Alan West via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yah, my AP is not showing up there at all. But the refresh seems dreadfully slow on these. I have it set to 2 seconds. I only have the upper band from 5740-58xx checked. Are you successfully getting any kind of range with the 110s? On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Go to monitor wireless. That's all the APs it can see with the frequencies/sizes you've enabled. I would suggest limiting the frequencies to the band you're deployed in. Saves time in scanning. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 23, 2014 4:49 PM, Alan West via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hello all. I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to it from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running 5.7 at about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel. I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working at a customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working. I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at 5.9 miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of site (neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in the path. They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees deep. Each is along a creek. Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something configured wrong.
Re: [AFMUG] Omni + Ice
Hefty garbage bag. Sex wax (surf board stuff) Might try that neverwet Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 23, 2014 5:49 PM, Brian Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It seems like a couple times over the winter we have ice that covers a side of our omni antennas. It's only a handful of customers that directly face the iced up side of the omni that have degraded signals. We usually only have an issue when rain slowly switches to ice and then snow. It will either take a tower climb or wait for warmer temps to melt said ice. What measures has anyone here on the list taken to prevent this condition?
Re: [AFMUG] Omni + Ice
I doubt it causes any signal reduction assuming you just apply a layer. Putting a pallet of material in front would be bad. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 23, 2014 5:58 PM, Brian Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I'm using Never Wet on a couple of AirFiber24's. I have tried sex wax on stinger antennas with no luck. The bag idea is good. Any degraded performance I would notice? On 12/23/2014 4:51 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Hefty garbage bag. Sex wax (surf board stuff) Might try that neverwet Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 23, 2014 5:49 PM, Brian Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It seems like a couple times over the winter we have ice that covers a side of our omni antennas. It's only a handful of customers that directly face the iced up side of the omni that have degraded signals. We usually only have an issue when rain slowly switches to ice and then snow. It will either take a tower climb or wait for warmer temps to melt said ice. What measures has anyone here on the list taken to prevent this condition?
Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Titanium; Narrower Sectors and GPS
Ubnt flat out doesn't have GPS. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 23, 2014 8:26 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I don't know anyone using GPS on ubnt On December 23, 2014 4:23:20 PM AKST, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Our region is pretty noisy and getting noisier. Currently we are using Ubnt Rocket 90deg sectors although I have considered these to really be more like 75 degrees due UBNT using -6dB as the rolloff point. We have seen a dramatic improvement with a Titanium sector and plan on replacing the other rockets with Titaniums and considering going to 60deg or maybe even 45 degree and using GPS sync to reuse channels. What if any have been your experiences with going to narrower sectors for a given area? I would expect to see ~3dB improvement in links just by reducing the antenna pattern, and ~3dB due to power density. Additional gains might be made from improved F/B rejection and improved shielding, possibly another ~3dB? This could mean anywhere from 6-9dB improveme nt on every link. What are your experiences with UBNT GPS? We would not use dynamic, but rather fixed downlink %. I know we will give up some B/W but better spectrum management might be worth the trade. The link improvements should push the radios into higher modulation further mitigating the loss by using GPS Thoughts? Comments? Jerry -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*********, Re: Epmp results
COAX SEAL! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Epmp pole bracket, rpsma to rpsma pigtails and some tape... Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr On 12/22/14, 11:52 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yep. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 10:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*, Re: Epmp results For epmp + rocket dish? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr On 12/22/14, 10:59 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Gino, You got a good mounting design with weather protection I didn't see? If so, please share. That's the only reason. Wanted to do it several times. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 6:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Spam:*, Re: [AFMUG] Epmp results Why are you taking rockets down? Just swap the rocket radio with the epmp conn. RadioŠ the dish is already there and its aligned! Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr On 12/22/14, 12:00 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It's cambium and works well. I understand a lot of guys are now going to it. Question though is the new AC gear worth waiting on at this point ?? My complaints are... Wish it had alignment tone. We are so use to our easy breezy alignment tool with FSK and OFDM. Going to the led lights was a step back I guess to help keep costs down. Who here has tried to align a KP REFLECTOR like that? That's dumb. Give me my headset back so I can listen to music. Some of the UI loads slow and is missing some nice features we see in the other cambium gear. Sync and throughput is good. Force 110 dish is small...wish it was bigger to add the db loss from taking Rockets down. Sorry I like carrier grade but without the price. So I am crying about it Sent from my iPhone On Dec 21, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Craig House via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Just curious Who out there has had positive or negative results from EPMP. What are the pluses and minuses? I know price is a plus but other than that?? Craig
Re: [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs
SWG? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 22, 2014 8:36 PM, Heith Petersen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Did you check WSG? They offered me $20 per to by my p9 and above, so maybe they sell theirs for $35. I am still trying to find someone to buy mine off me *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2014 4:43 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs If you have a couple you could sell me I'd appreciate it. Just need a few spares. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8786 - Release Date: 12/22/14
Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF
Jump up to the Droid Maxx. Double the battery. Screen is a lot bigger, though :/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 21, 2014 1:08 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My Android fits in either front or back pocket. It's large with a ~~ 5 (slightly less) screen. The kevlar back seems to make it very sturdy, and I love the long battery life. DROID RAZR MAXX HD. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/21/2014 7:30 AM, Darin Steffl via Af wrote: Mike, The only guys I know that use belt clips to hold their phone are at wispa shows. In my everyday life, I know almost no one that have a phone in a holster or clip. Most everyone I know including many women put the phone in their front pocket as I do myself. Those who sit on their phone in their back pocket need some help. On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: haha This is the type I usually use. http://www.seidioonline.com/lg-google-nexus-5-convert-value-pack-black-p/bd5-hkr4lgn5.htm - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeremy via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 9:01:03 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF ...but check out the awesome belt clips that they are making for these newer generation phones! http://img.tvc-mall.com/uploads/details/MLC-N9005-07-6.jpg ...or you could always go the holster route... http://www.gizmocrazed.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/163.jpg On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I'm not sure the phone placement would lessen the harassment. Most guys I know use a belt clip (even outside of the IT industry). *shrugs* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 8:01:23 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF I put mine in my pocket all the time. If I even thought about using the belt clip, the three women (wife and two teen daughters) would harass me mercilessly! Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Dec 21, 2014, at 8:34 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Who puts phones in their pockets? Women put theirs in their purse or leave them in random places where they are not so you can't possibly reach them and men use cases\holsters that go on their belt. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 12:31:51 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF When I saw the 6+ at the Apple Store I thought it was way over sized...especially since it wouldn't fit in pants pockets. On Saturday, December 20, 2014, Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Did you try and/or considered 6 plus? I am considering 6 plus, I don't need to carry iPad ( mainly for reading). Tushar On Dec 20, 2014, at 10:05 PM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Just upgraded to an iphone6 and I love it. It was a little big at first compared to my 5s but now I don't think I could go back. The only reason I say it's big is because sometimes it's hard to use one handed and stretch your thumb all the way to the top of the screen. Nothing else about the phone is big...it's actually very slim when in my pocket etc. We use ATT because they have the best coverage and speeds in NW CO. Sean On Saturday, December 20, 2014, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Huge holiday discussion at my house. Two members of the family need new phones. I have never been a big Apple fan but the only smart phone I have ever owned is an iPhone 4. Still have it. Charge it once a week. Fat, dumb and happy. Wife uses a Samsung Galaxy Infuse and needs a new phone. I have some kids that have iPhones and we all like the find friends apps so we can spy on each other. One kid has lost his phone and needs a new one. That kid and my wife are shopping for phones and plans. Kid is OK with Apple products. His mother has anxiety about leaving Android. Kinda like I want her to vote Democrat or join PETA... (Which is totally weird as I associate Apple with Birkenstock wearing, Dreadlocks, Cigarette Smoking, BA degrees, Wine, Liberal, Democrat, Tree Hugger and folks that use crystals to align their chakras). We are all on a pay as you go “mobile value share” plan with ATT. No matter what we decide I get to pay. The new phones are pretty expensive. But they will amortize depending on the plan. Too lazy to even attempt to understand
Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF
You're not factoring in battery consumption :). I had both, trust me it is double. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 21, 2014 1:29 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Not double. 3500 mah versus 3300 mah. Screen is only slightly bigger (5 versus 4.7). But I'm really happy with this phone. Don't anticipate switching until it dies. It's a couple years old now, and it is stable, fast, and smooth. I don't know about others claims of android crashing. Mine hasn't crashed once in the two years that I've had it. It may have been an issue with early versions of android, but I've only experienced jelly bean (+), and it just keeps trucking. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/21/2014 10:10 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Jump up to the Droid Maxx. Double the battery. Screen is a lot bigger, though :/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 21, 2014 1:08 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My Android fits in either front or back pocket. It's large with a ~~ 5 (slightly less) screen. The kevlar back seems to make it very sturdy, and I love the long battery life. DROID RAZR MAXX HD. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/21/2014 7:30 AM, Darin Steffl via Af wrote: Mike, The only guys I know that use belt clips to hold their phone are at wispa shows. In my everyday life, I know almost no one that have a phone in a holster or clip. Most everyone I know including many women put the phone in their front pocket as I do myself. Those who sit on their phone in their back pocket need some help. On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: haha This is the type I usually use. http://www.seidioonline.com/lg-google-nexus-5-convert-value-pack-black-p/bd5-hkr4lgn5.htm - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeremy via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 9:01:03 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF ...but check out the awesome belt clips that they are making for these newer generation phones! http://img.tvc-mall.com/uploads/details/MLC-N9005-07-6.jpg ...or you could always go the holster route... http://www.gizmocrazed.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/163.jpg On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I'm not sure the phone placement would lessen the harassment. Most guys I know use a belt clip (even outside of the IT industry). *shrugs* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 8:01:23 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF I put mine in my pocket all the time. If I even thought about using the belt clip, the three women (wife and two teen daughters) would harass me mercilessly! Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Dec 21, 2014, at 8:34 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Who puts phones in their pockets? Women put theirs in their purse or leave them in random places where they are not so you can't possibly reach them and men use cases\holsters that go on their belt. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 12:31:51 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF When I saw the 6+ at the Apple Store I thought it was way over sized...especially since it wouldn't fit in pants pockets. On Saturday, December 20, 2014, Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Did you try and/or considered 6 plus? I am considering 6 plus, I don't need to carry iPad ( mainly for reading). Tushar On Dec 20, 2014, at 10:05 PM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Just upgraded to an iphone6 and I love it. It was a little big at first compared to my 5s but now I don't think I could go back. The only reason I say it's big is because sometimes it's hard to use one handed and stretch your thumb all the way to the top of the screen. Nothing else about the phone is big...it's actually very slim when in my pocket etc. We use ATT because they have the best coverage and speeds in NW CO. Sean On Saturday, December 20, 2014, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Huge holiday discussion at my house. Two members of the family need new phones. I have never been a big Apple fan but the only smart phone I have ever owned is an iPhone 4. Still have it. Charge it once a week. Fat
Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF
Jerry, Apple Maps. Proof that's not accurate :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 21, 2014 2:46 PM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have been an iPhone uer for a while - 3, 4, 5, 5s. I'll get a 6 next year. Main reasons for not changing: - Stability. These things just keep working much like yours. - Consistency. I know iOS, the apps are proofed and generally work as expected - Investment. Got a lot of $$ ties up in apps and music. It's easier to stay with iPhone I'm on ATT, wife is on Verizon. Both have excellent coverage and few holes. I used to burn through data faster when I was commuting and in the field. Now that I'm at a home office on WiFi I use much less. Hope that helps. On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Huge holiday discussion at my house. Two members of the family need new phones. I have never been a big Apple fan but the only smart phone I have ever owned is an iPhone 4. Still have it. Charge it once a week. Fat, dumb and happy. Wife uses a Samsung Galaxy Infuse and needs a new phone. I have some kids that have iPhones and we all like the find friends apps so we can spy on each other. One kid has lost his phone and needs a new one. That kid and my wife are shopping for phones and plans. Kid is OK with Apple products. His mother has anxiety about leaving Android. Kinda like I want her to vote Democrat or join PETA... (Which is totally weird as I associate Apple with Birkenstock wearing, Dreadlocks, Cigarette Smoking, BA degrees, Wine, Liberal, Democrat, Tree Hugger and folks that use crystals to align their chakras). We are all on a pay as you go “mobile value share” plan with ATT. No matter what we decide I get to pay. The new phones are pretty expensive. But they will amortize depending on the plan. Too lazy to even attempt to understand the plans from the different carriers, the different phones, etc etc. I have used less than 0.01 GB of data in the last month. Phone are for talking on. But I realize that my buggy whip factory stock is probably worthless too. So my opinion as to features is irrelevant as I still read books printed on plant matter. (I do like the built in camera and a solar panel orientation and location app) (And a hymn book...) But I would like to get a good value. I care more about price than features or OS. Not so the rest of the clan. (As in Scottish Clan, OK, not Klan).So if anyone can help me pick a direction It would be appreciated.
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP SNMP Location
There's a great SNMP website for all Cambium stuff. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 21, 2014 7:58 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Does the ePMP not expose the SNMP Location that Mikrotik and Ubiquiti (and my Linux servers) do? It's not showing up in my monitoring program (Observium). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp results
Works pretty damn well so far. Syncs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 21, 2014 10:36 PM, Craig House via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Just curious Who out there has had positive or negative results from EPMP. What are the pluses and minuses? I know price is a plus but other than that?? Craig
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp results
Syncs like Canopy. Haven't gotten anything heavily loaded yet, just moving people over and new customers. Going from 4 to 30 megs aggregate in the same channel size kicks ass. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 21, 2014 10:46 PM, Craig House via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Syncs with all other towers? What is the customer load or real throughput max out at? Are the Sm's bandwidth capped? how many SM's can you get on an AP without issues? Craig -- *From: *Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 9:37:36 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp results Works pretty damn well so far. Syncs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 21, 2014 10:36 PM, Craig House via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Just curious Who out there has had positive or negative results from EPMP. What are the pluses and minuses? I know price is a plus but other than that?? Craig
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Kinda what I thought... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 20, 2014 3:41 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Maybe it is a plot perpetrated by Sony to cut out the theaters. The demand for the banned movie will be off the charts, because everyone will want to see what they've been censored from. Pay per view, or video on demand, or even DVD/blue ray all seem viable to me. Will take a movie that might have made $100 million up into the multi-hundred million category. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/20/2014 12:26 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote: It's not such a crazy idea anymore http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30559169 Sony Pictures says it is looking at different ways to release The Interview after scrapping its opening following a cyber-attack blamed on North Korea. Without theatres, we could not release it in the theatres on Christmas Day. We had no choice, the statement added. It is still our hope that anyone who wants to see this movie will get the opportunity to do so. See, New distribution without theater owners, and they can't get upset. On 12/19/2014 6:45 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: Wait, Rodman is a Mormon?� I thought he was fined $50K for insulting Mormons back in the day. � I was kind of hoping he would stay over in N. Korea with his buddy Un, the only person on the planet who thinks of him as a basketball player, not a washed up buffoon.� But N. Korea is stuck in 1950, so the Worm must seem like a basketball star from 45 years in the future.� I still can’t believe that idiot was on the same team with MJ. � � *From:* Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 6:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack � Depends on the Mormon, I prefer peyote, 3D HiFi visions, ping time to heaven is in the nanoseconds... � � *From:* Jason Petrillo via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 5:08 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack � Chuck, ������������� I didn’t think Mormons drank… � J � � Jason � � � *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af *Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 3:44 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack � I heard that Rev Al and Dennis Rodman shot a porno flick with Kim Jong Un and then he got wet feet during post production and sent Dennis and Rev Al into Sony HQ to delete the copy.� While the worm was attempting to guess the Sony root password (123456) they got drunk and ACCIDENTALLY shared some files with the rest of� the world.� They are sorry and Kim Jong is not returning their calls anymore.�� So it is a big mistake, nothing to see here.� Please move along.� � *From:* That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 11:38 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack � The two big problems with the tinfoil theories like that and the ones I come up with as well are the domestic terrorism issue, that wont go away, somebody will end up dead. The other is Al Sharpton, nobody, for any reason under the sun would open that can. � On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ok, putting on my Conspiracy theory hat now that the FBI just announced that NK is behind the attack, since there's been no collusion between the gov't and the media industry before.� What if Sony is developing a new Distribution system to bypass theaters with new releases.� What better way to get it started than to have to use it in a way that does not anger theater owners.� 'Oh, we have to distribute the movie this way, because someone threatened you if we show it at your movie theater'� And then, if it completely fails, they can point their finger to North Korea who 'Forced them to have to do it this way'� They get to try something new without having ANYONE upset with them.� Oh, except maybe Seth Rogan. Were there any recent Sony Internships that touted 'International travel' as part of the perks? On 12/17/2014 8:39 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: True... it's not really surprising they pulled it, nobody is going to want to take on that sort of liability. � -- *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [ af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:34 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack If hackers are involved to the degree they claim, which I doubt, the mystery of N Koreas involvment (they do have the money to pay for hired hackers) has emboldened them to act like warriors.
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Epmp 5 Ghz conn. STA - New / Good Price!
They're two different part numbers to make a force110. I know for sure one distributor can. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 19, 2014 11:31 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can they be bought separately? I know they have a SKU for it, but maybe you can't actually buy them? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, December 19, 2014 10:18:36 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FS: Epmp 5 Ghz conn. STA - New / Good Price! Just buy the force110 dishes and slap on the radio you already have... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 19, 2014 11:15 AM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Planned to use them with flat panels… then force110 came out… Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Friday, December 19, 2014 at 12:00 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Epmp 5 Ghz conn. STA - New / Good Price! Ummm, curious care to share why you are getting rid of them? *From:* Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 7:23 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] FS: Epmp 5 Ghz conn. STA - New / Good Price! Hi, I have for sale 50 Epmp 5 Ghz connectorized STA – New I’ll prefer to sell in 10packs = $700 for the 10 packs Also would take an offer for the whole 50 pack Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] mass password change
I think it can be done with SNMP on both... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Joshua Heide via Af af@afmug.com wrote: For fsk and 450 if there is one? Josh Heide Velociter Wireless (office) 209-838-1221 (fax) 209-838-1800 www.velociter.net *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman via Af *Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 9:08 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mass password change For FSK radios? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Joshua Heide via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Does anyone have the script to mass change sm passwords? I see that someone had linked it back in 2011 but it’s no longer accessible. Thanks for the help Josh Heide Velociter Wireless (office) 209-838-1221 (fax) 209-838-1800 www.velociter.net
Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber 5 experiences - good/bad/ugly
Has anyone powered up an AF5 with DC yet? Does this work for all Airfiber units regardless of band? http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-gigabit-poe-injector-for-airfiber/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Chuck Macenski via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Cheaper than 2K per link? Really? On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.com wrote: If I was spending this kind of money I would go licensed over AF5.. buy used DragonWave compacts for chump change from some of the Bros on the list. The 5Ghz band is just to chancy for mission critical backhauls and AF5 chews up your money making spectrum. *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
I think you can do that exact same method if you use 169.254.1.1 (on every radio or SM) on 2.3+ if you have a MT. Still think it would be painfully stupid easy to add a virtual interface that gets an IP from the AP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 18, 2014 10:17 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That Cambium so completely failed to realize how big of a use proxy access was on the Canopy product still completely baffles me. Cambium spent way too much time trying to make a better Ubiquiti product rather than understanding how and why their own product was used. Hopefully they learned something :-) Mark On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Vlad Sedov via Af af@afmug.com wrote: One thing that makes it so bullet-proof on Canopy, is the internal network between the AP and the SMs (169.254.101.x) which is what makes the proxy so smooth. With ePMP and UBNT, you're still at the mercy of having the right IP address set in the SM before you can manage it (even when connecting from the AP). We sorely miss this feature in ePMP, and it makes NMS mapping a major headache.. We don't pre-map SMs before they go out into the field, so with ePMPs, I have to create a static ARP entry for the 192.168.0.2 address in the closest Mikrotik router, and use the Tik proxy to get into the SM.. Change IP, delete ARP, rinse, repeat. Click-through is a cruel joke without the proxy. I really, really hope it gets properly implemented. Vlad On 12/18/2014 7:18 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: How are you doing it with Ubnt? Can't the same be done with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 18, 2014 8:06 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: For our install method proxy access (or some means of remote access to a minimally configured CPE) is a must have. The installers do NOT have to get out a computer or otherwise access the device. Power it up, point it at the tower, listen for signal, call the office for a signal quality check and go. Everything regarding CPE programming can be done remotely. This can be done with Ubnt as well by SSH to the AP's and then to the CPE but it's not as clean as Canopy. No way at all that I know of with ePMP. Mark On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Steve D via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Use it all the time. Between it and installer color code field techs can't FUBAR an install. When our larger networks were vlan'd years ago that made the process super safe. One of the best features of the canopy platform in my book. It annoys me working on 802.11 crap when I see a tech has typo'd something like an IP or vlan. On Dec 17, 2014 7:30 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Me too. I don't know how many times I've used it, but it's more than I have finger to count on. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/17/2014 7:08 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: No, rather just have it. On 12/17/2014 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I used it a couple times on my Canopy gear, but it was never a show-stopper to not have it. This brings me to a new post... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:30:14 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP proxy OK Cambium ePMP dudes and chicks, I am disappointed. I thought you guys had Canopy-like SM click-thru access, aka LUID proxy. But this is not the case on 2.3.3. All you give me is a URL with the IP of the SM. Informational helpful, yes, operationally helpful, no. I'm guessing you need an RF private network like exists on Canopy to make this work. Please do it. -- http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] APC Protectnet
Eww why that instead of Wbmfg??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 18, 2014 10:49 AM, Ryan Mano via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Has anyone replaced their moto surges with these? http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=PNETR6tab=models I use a lot of the packetflux syncinjectors at my towers and it’s a recommend surge that packetflux says to use instead of the moto surges I have a ptp 230 that has tons of crc errors that just happened recently and am wondering if this would help it…we checked the cables and the moto surge and all is find so am thinking it maybe due to this Anyone else tried out these surges?
Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX
More bandwidth in 70 Ghz I think Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 18, 2014 11:03 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Not even close to an AF24 in terms of price.� Requested a quote for a 2 mile link, and this is what I got.� Radios alone are double an AF24, there is extra cost for the antennas, plus extra for speed keys, AES, blah blah blah.� Bottom line is that you can install 4 AF24 links for one of these. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/16/2014 5:38 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: Many of you deploying the Siklu EH-1200FX radios yet? Marketing material looks good: 1 Gbps full duplex for around the price of an AF-24 link� � *Peter Kranz *Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com �
Re: [AFMUG] APC Protectnet
You make a rack mount one? What's the part number? I'm not seeing it on the website. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 18, 2014 11:10 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My rack actually comes from APC and gets modified a bit. *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:02 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] APC Protectnet Is the APC rack thing grounded like yours, just bigger and rack mountable? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 18, 2014 10:56 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: And they fit the APC rack too! *From:* Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:50 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] APC Protectnet Talk to WB Manufacturing. Their surge suppressors are kind of the group's standard. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ryan Mano via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:49:04 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] APC Protectnet Has anyone replaced their moto surges with these? http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=PNETR6tab=models I use a lot of the packetflux syncinjectors at my towers and it’s a recommend surge that packetflux says to use instead of the moto surges I have a ptp 230 that has tons of crc errors that just happened recently and am wondering if this would help it…we checked the cables and the moto surge and all is find so am thinking it maybe due to this Anyone else tried out these surges?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
God I can only dream that would happen. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 18, 2014 11:14 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: As the Canopy proxy requires both the AP and the CPE being Canopy. MT supports anything using MAC telnet on that layer 2 segment. That would be other APs or CPE or routers or whatever else your box is configured as. Canopy is restricted to that AP and its CPE. I believe I've seen people dig up the Linux package MT uses for this feature for including it in other people's products. Just add mac telnet to ePMP? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:08:45 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy Equally so IME but that's also depending on both sides being MT. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 18, 2014 11:03 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: With Mikrotik you can mac-telnet or mac-winbox to anything on that layer 2 segment. That sounds more useful than this proxy. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Vlad Sedov via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:11:55 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy One thing that makes it so bullet-proof on Canopy, is the internal network between the AP and the SMs (169.254.101.x) which is what makes the proxy so smooth. With ePMP and UBNT, you're still at the mercy of having the right IP address set in the SM before you can manage it (even when connecting from the AP). We sorely miss this feature in ePMP, and it makes NMS mapping a major headache.. We don't pre-map SMs before they go out into the field, so with ePMPs, I have to create a static ARP entry for the 192.168.0.2 address in the closest Mikrotik router, and use the Tik proxy to get into the SM.. Change IP, delete ARP, rinse, repeat. Click-through is a cruel joke without the proxy. I really, really hope it gets properly implemented. Vlad On 12/18/2014 7:18 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: How are you doing it with Ubnt? Can't the same be done with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 18, 2014 8:06 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: For our install method proxy access (or some means of remote access to a minimally configured CPE) is a must have. The installers do NOT have to get out a computer or otherwise access the device. Power it up, point it at the tower, listen for signal, call the office for a signal quality check and go. Everything regarding CPE programming can be done remotely. This can be done with Ubnt as well by SSH to the AP's and then to the CPE but it's not as clean as Canopy. No way at all that I know of with ePMP. Mark On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Steve D via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Use it all the time. Between it and installer color code field techs can't FUBAR an install. When our larger networks were vlan'd years ago that made the process super safe. One of the best features of the canopy platform in my book. It annoys me working on 802.11 crap when I see a tech has typo'd something like an IP or vlan. On Dec 17, 2014 7:30 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Me too. I don't know how many times I've used it, but it's more than I have finger to count on. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/17/2014 7:08 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: No, rather just have it. On 12/17/2014 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I used it a couple times on my Canopy gear, but it was never a show-stopper to not have it. This brings me to a new post... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:30:14 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP proxy OK Cambium ePMP dudes and chicks, I am disappointed. I thought you guys had Canopy-like SM click-thru access, aka LUID proxy. But this is not the case on 2.3.3. All you give me is a URL with the IP of the SM. Informational helpful, yes, operationally helpful, no. I'm guessing you need an RF private network like exists on Canopy to make this work. Please do it. -- http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked
Re: [AFMUG] APC Protectnet
OK, just checking. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 18, 2014 11:29 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Nope, you can get them for cheap on Amazon. *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:28 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] APC Protectnet I've got the Din but I'm gathering you don't make a 19 rack unit? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 18, 2014 11:23 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Thanks! *From:* Jeremy via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:17 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] APC Protectnet I love the WB GigE-APC-POE! Here is the APC rack mount... On Dec 18, 2014 9:13 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: You make a rack mount one? What's the part number? I'm not seeing it on the website. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 18, 2014 11:10 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My rack actually comes from APC and gets modified a bit. *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:02 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] APC Protectnet Is the APC rack thing grounded like yours, just bigger and rack mountable? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 18, 2014 10:56 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: And they fit the APC rack too! *From:* Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:50 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] APC Protectnet Talk to WB Manufacturing. Their surge suppressors are kind of the group's standard. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ryan Mano via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:49:04 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] APC Protectnet Has anyone replaced their moto surges with these? http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=PNETR6tab=models I use a lot of the packetflux syncinjectors at my towers and it’s a recommend surge that packetflux says to use instead of the moto surges I have a ptp 230 that has tons of crc errors that just happened recently and am wondering if this would help it…we checked the cables and the moto surge and all is find so am thinking it maybe due to this Anyone else tried out these surges?
Re: [AFMUG] What are these ODUs?
Kinda looks like Trango I'm guessing? The ODU with the handle and fins reminds me of the Remec ODU. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Seen on a roof in Accra, Ghana. The 100-series FSK and reflector, obviously, but what are the others
Re: [AFMUG] LINKPlanner supports PTP planning on the ePMP platform
This came a bit late, but I'm definitely glad to have the force110 PTP on there! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Rex-List Account via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Great And Thanks! *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bruce Collins via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:53 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] LINKPlanner supports PTP planning on the ePMP platform *LINKPlanner now supports the planning of PTP links using ePMP (including the ePMP Force 110 PTP). * LINKPlanner v4.2.1 was posted to the Cambium Networks support site today at: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/linkplanner/ Now network operators can predict performance and plan their network deployments with ePMP 1000 in both PMP and PTP configurations. The PTP planning mode includes support for the new ePMP Force 110 PTP which is a high-gain integrated solution especially configured for PTP applications. Select the ePMP Force 110 PTP from the antenna selection drop down menu to plan these networks and auto-generate the necessary bill of materials. For PMP networks, also be sure to look at the new Mean Predicted Throughput reports that show network designers how many subscriber modules are expected to be in each modulation mode for an indication of overall sector loading. LINKPlanner continues to grow more powerful and flexible now supporting network design for PMP (PMP 450 and ePMP) and PTP (PTP 450/500/600/650/800/810/820 and ePMP) topologies. *Changes in version 4.2.1 (see user guide and release notes for details)* *New or changed features* · Added support for ePMP 1000 in PTP mode (including ePMP Force 110 PTP) · Added high level Mean Predicted Throughput for ePMP 1000 AP · Updated PTP 820 Part Descriptions · Updated Optional Extras BOM generation for PTP 450 and PTP 820 · Removed EIRP limit from PTP 450 Canada, FCC and Other-FCC at 5.8 GHz o For existing projects please check that the correct country option is selected. *Defect Corrections* · Fixed issue when creating SM custom antenna · Fixed PTP 800 and PTP 810 Installation Report issues · Prevent site coordinates from being changed on sites that have PMP links Regards, Bruce Bruce Collins Product Manager Cambium Networks
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Anyone can help me out? Receive a box and send it over here?
Ya not a problem. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Buying some stuff online for wife. They don’t ship to PR…. Anyone can help out? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Anyone can help me out? Receive a box and send it over here?
Yes. Send it to the office and give me a shipping label or whatever. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 18, 2014 2:26 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ill take that as a yes? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Thursday, December 18, 2014 at 3:18 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Anyone can help me out? Receive a box and send it over here? Ya not a problem. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Buying some stuff online for wife. They don’t ship to PR…. Anyone can help out? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Anyone can help me out? Receive a box and send it over here?
Not a problem at all. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 18, 2014 2:37 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hey man thanks! I owe you! Should be receiving it tomorrow, Ill send you a UPS label later today! Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Thursday, December 18, 2014 at 3:33 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Anyone can help me out? Receive a box and send it over here? Yes. Send it to the office and give me a shipping label or whatever. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 18, 2014 2:26 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ill take that as a yes? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Thursday, December 18, 2014 at 3:18 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Anyone can help me out? Receive a box and send it over here? Ya not a problem. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Buying some stuff online for wife. They don’t ship to PR…. Anyone can help out? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
to create a static ARP entry for the 192.168.0.2 address in the closest Mikrotik router, and use the Tik proxy to get into the SM.. Change IP, delete ARP, rinse, repeat. Click-through is a cruel joke without the proxy. I really, really hope it gets properly implemented. Vlad On 12/18/2014 7:18 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: How are you doing it with Ubnt? Can't the same be done with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 18, 2014 8:06 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: For our install method proxy access (or some means of remote access to a minimally configured CPE) is a must have. The installers do NOT have to get out a computer or otherwise access the device. Power it up, point it at the tower, listen for signal, call the office for a signal quality check and go. Everything regarding CPE programming can be done remotely. This can be done with Ubnt as well by SSH to the AP's and then to the CPE but it's not as clean as Canopy. No way at all that I know of with ePMP. Mark On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Steve D via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Use it all the time. Between it and installer color code field techs can't FUBAR an install. When our larger networks were vlan'd years ago that made the process super safe. One of the best features of the canopy platform in my book. It annoys me working on 802.11 crap when I see a tech has typo'd something like an IP or vlan. On Dec 17, 2014 7:30 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Me too. I don't know how many times I've used it, but it's more than I have finger to count on. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/17/2014 7:08 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: No, rather just have it. On 12/17/2014 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I used it a couple times on my Canopy gear, but it was never a show-stopper to not have it. This brings me to a new post... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:30:14 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP proxy OK Cambium ePMP dudes and chicks, I am disappointed. I thought you guys had Canopy-like SM click-thru access, aka LUID proxy. But this is not the case on 2.3.3. All you give me is a URL with the IP of the SM. Informational helpful, yes, operationally helpful, no. I'm guessing you need an RF private network like exists on Canopy to make this work. Please do it. -- http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] ISP Radio Wednesday -- Bridged vs Routed
It was clever :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 17, 2014 10:40 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That statement is so completely wrong I'm not even sure where to start. Ah well... just keep going exactly the opposite direction of the overall industry. Good luck with that. Mark On 12/17/14, 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: Seems like an awfully quick show. Are you bridging? *slap* Stop it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:25:22 -0600 (CST) Subject: [AFMUG] ISP Radio Wednesday -- Bridged vs Routed http://www.ispradio.com/ http://www.ispradio.com/ images/ispLogoWoodWhite.PNGCo-Host Dennis Burgess will be discussing bridging vs routing with host Steven Grabiel. Join us live and ask questions about “Bridging vs Routing” Wednesday 11am CST Don’t forgot you can download the previous episodes to put on your media player and listen while in your car free of charge by going to http://www.ispradio.com www.ispradio.com Remember to sign into the live chat to ask questions! You can find our Podcast on I-Tunes ! n UPCOMMING SHOWS! n December 24th – No Show –Happy Holidays n January 14th – Nathan Stooke from WISPERISP will be talking about “Over the Top TV” n January 21st – Anand Buch CEO of Netsapiens n January 28th – Patrick Leary with Telrad Dennis Burgess, Co-Host of ISP Radio! http://www.ispradio.com http://www.ispradio.com -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
Re: [AFMUG] Goodbye....
Hell ya it is :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 17, 2014 11:11 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: FB is for girls... *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:10 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Goodbye Clearly you're on the wrong FB Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 17, 2014 11:07 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: No need to leave the list. Much more fun here than FB... From: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 at 8:41 AM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Goodbye Hey folks…. I’ve really enjoyed this list for quite a long time … really helpful folks here. It’s time for me to make a career change (moving to a different company) and with this change I will have no involvement with wireless. Wish everyone the best and happy holidays! Paul Stewart
Re: [AFMUG] WTB: Need to work with a good Motorola 2 Way dealer. STAT !
If you just need to buy some hardware call these guys: http://www.pandrcommunications.com/ Every single person I've talked to (engineering wise) knows their Moto and RF stuff down pat. Sales guys even know what they're talking about. They show up at Hamvention, of course, with their mobile tower and other toys. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: These guys know Motorola radios, both analog and digital: www.futronics.us 800-443-2929 Mike owns it, Tony is one of the techs. Or luck of the draw :-) Mark On 12/17/14, 3:14 PM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: Need to work with a good Motorola 2 Way dealer. STAT ! Need some intelligence and need to buy some stuff Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
Re: [AFMUG] WTB: Need to work with a good Motorola 2 Way dealer. STAT !
Are you? Can you email me off list - josh AT imaginenetworksllc.com Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Jason Petrillo via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Paul, We are also a Motorola Two-Way dealer. If there is anything we can do to help just let me know. Thanks, Jason Petrillo Last Mile Gear 360.442.4414 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 12:25 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WTB: Need to work with a good Motorola 2 Way dealer. STAT ! These guys know Motorola radios, both analog and digital: www.futronics.us 800-443-2929 Mike owns it, Tony is one of the techs. Or luck of the draw :-) Mark On 12/17/14, 3:14 PM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: Need to work with a good Motorola 2 Way dealer. STAT ! Need some intelligence and need to buy some stuff Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX
In Soviet Russia, communists are you!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We are? Maybe we were. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/17/2014 12:15 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: You are all communists.. You are right. You are? you're
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
Call it 5 gigs and you left your laptop on overnight, wouldn't be that hard would it? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I've only been following loosely with what I hear on the radio, but it sound like there was a lot of data stolen (multiple gig's from the sound of it). The Last update I heard was that the hack originated from a hotel Wifi connection in china somewhere. How were they able to transfer that much data in a short enough time that it wasn't discovered and stopped? Did the hotel have a blazing fast network? Something with getting that amount of data in such a short time dosen't seem to add up.
Re: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISPs EOL - Alternatives
It's like buying a washing machine and complaining to the water company when it doesn't work. I guess I just can't get to such a dumb level thinking my non-email company has email support for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We get all sorts of support calls about all nature of things simply because we provide internet service. Most people have no clue where their email comes from, so we get the calls. You can explain that to them over and over, and yet they will still call when their email doesn't work. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/17/2014 3:17 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Huh??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We don't offer email. Never have. None the less we get a lot of support calls about email. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/17/2014 12:53 PM, SmarterBroadband via Af wrote: We are the same, however we have a lot of emails from the past. We are also thinking of dropping email. Too many of our help desk calls are email. Adam *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:47 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISPs EOL - Alternatives we stopped offering it unless someone really bugs us about it. Just tell them to get a gmail or yahoo account or host their own domain...time to move past 1998. one less thing to deal with :-) On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Today, more than half of me says to get rid of email. We currently offer it, have a low take rate, and those that take it don't use it. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Sam Lambie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hopefully no one subscribes to the AFMUG list. I am at 4.28 gigs just for this account. On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Dennis Burgess via Af af@afmug.com wrote: 3 gig total, more can be purchased. Just what comes with it, it’s a combined across all mailboxes, so no its not store everything forever. Spam control is the same system we use, just like any system, works great most of the time, lets some things though and in spurts just like anything else. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *SmarterBroadband via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 12:56 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISPs EOL - Alternatives How good is spam control? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:57 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISPs EOL - Alternatives 3 gig total or 3 gig per box? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Dennis Burgess via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 10:30:38 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISPs EOL - Alternatives WE do 1000 mailboxes 3 gig of storage, your own management interface to add, change etc, plus filtering for 79.99 a month. That would be .08 per mailbox.. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 10:16 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISPs EOL - Alternatives Received the email from Virtacore that they now have a solution for us to migrate to. .50 a box seems a bit high doesn't it? What alternatives are out there for a reliable hosted solution? Here is the mail: Dear Valued Partner, Thank you for your continued business. As your trusted provider of Cloud services, we strive to bring you great solutions for the best value. Since Google has announced the end-of-life of their Google Apps for Service Provider hosted email platform that you purchased through Virtacore, we have worked to find an alternate best in class solution to meet your hosted email needs. We pride ourselves on your satisfaction with our service. To assist you with business continuity, we have chosen a product that provides your customers with the following: ● Reliable mail platform with mailboxes that have up to 7GB of storage ● Best in class spam solution ● Private email platform to ensure your ends users’ security ● Elegant webmail interface
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy
Rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I used it a couple times on my Canopy gear, but it was never a show-stopper to not have it. This brings me to a new post... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:30:14 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP proxy OK Cambium ePMP dudes and chicks, I am disappointed. I thought you guys had Canopy-like SM click-thru access, aka LUID proxy. But this is not the case on 2.3.3. All you give me is a URL with the IP of the SM. Informational helpful, yes, operationally helpful, no. I'm guessing you need an RF private network like exists on Canopy to make this work. Please do it.
Re: [AFMUG] Big Boy provisioning
Cable has TACACSIS or whatever and DOCSIS. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 17, 2014 9:56 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: How do the big boys manage their gear? LTE base stations, DSLAMs, cable headends, etc.? Surely they don't all have web interfaces. I assume you plug them in, they pull some config from a central server, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
Thanks! This is what I ordered: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007OXK1M8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8psc=1 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Amazon Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 12/15/2014 07:58 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Matt, Where do you get that stuff? Looks great! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 15, 2014 8:02 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af af@afmug.com mailto: af@afmug.com wrote: I use 3M Dual Lock http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Adhesives/ Tapes/Brands/Dual-Lock-Reclosable-Fasteners/ It works at really low and high temps. Its like velcro but WAY better. Sticks to anything. You can buy it in long rolls and cut it to the size you need. The next step is training everyone to carry it with them when they go to a site to fix something. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net mailto:m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 tel:530.272.4000 On 12/15/2014 09:20 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote: In Europe... it is common for the yellow light to flash before green as well. Concept being it gives you time to put your car in gear before you go (automatics are still fairly uncommon there). Took me awhile to get used to... although I drive now in Europe at least twice a year. Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff I don't ever want to see a countdown for a green or red light. The idiots already try and push it now if they had a graph that shows them exaclty when it will change... no thanks. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:14:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff Those all look like virtual prototypes in testing, or CGI. Nice ideas, but making them work in real life is another matter entirely. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Invisible hood is better, came out a while ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TRGwLDLRp8 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The start of the video shows invisible A/B pillars.. but I like this part better. http://youtu.be/c98h41TkREA?t=1m -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
The average driver doesn't know how to use that... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On 12/16/14, 6:47 AM, Christopher Tyler via Af wrote: I don't ever want to see a countdown for a green or red light. The idiots already try and push it now if they had a graph that shows them exaclty when it will change... no thanks. The pedestrian signal countdown timers effectively are the same thing and they're everywhere, at least where I am. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Half of the car club has a 6MT. It's funny because I'm ahead of them in my 7AT =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes. I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car because they can't figure out how to operate it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] CNS Server CentOS Install
What's really stupid is that the install doesn't add the firewall rules... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I had something equally ridiculous before. I felt like a fool when Cambium support found it. I had turned off the firewall when I installed it, but the install had me reboot and IPTables turned back on. I've started putting forth the effort to figure out what holes need to be opened up on things instead of just turning it off. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Justin Marshall via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:56:46 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CNS Server CentOS Install LOL Sure enough, didn’t think about CentOS, and default iptables. I’m more of a Gentoo guy… Did a #iptables –F and it came right up Thanks! Justin *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:47 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNS Server CentOS Install New CentOS server? $50 says it is a firewall. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 16, 2014 10:45 AM, Justin Marshall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The firewall is definitely open, same IP I’ve used for CNS server in the past. I disabled SELinux. With setenable 0, and disabled in the /etc/selinux/config file… But now that you mention it, I can’t telnet to anything except port 22, however netstat shows it listening on 80/443 Wondering why I can’t telnet to port 80….And I’m trying from another box from inside the same subnet, no Firewall involved. [root@cnss logs]# netstat -ano Active Internet connections (servers and established) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State Timer tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:250.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:443 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN off (0.00/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48692 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.13/0/0) tcp0 0 10.192.172.113:22 10.192.172.114:53539 ESTABLISHED keepalive (3954.62/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48695 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.17/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48700 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.24/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48693 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.14/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48694 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.15/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48699 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.23/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48696 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.18/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48691 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.04/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48697 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.20/0/0) tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:5432 127.0.0.1:48698 ESTABLISHED keepalive (63.21/0/0) and when I manually try and restart Apache I get: [root@cnss logs]# /etc/init.d/lappstackApache restart [Tue Dec 16 05:34:01.272177 2014] [so:warn] [pid 7245] AH01574: module php5_module is already loaded, skipping [Tue Dec 16 05:34:01.284824 2014] [so:warn] [pid 7245] AH01574: module php5_module is already loaded, skipping [Tue Dec 16 05:34:01.284875 2014] [so:warn] [pid 7245] AH01574: module rewrite_module is already loaded, skipping AH00548: NameVirtualHost has no effect and will be removed in the next release /opt/cnsserver/stack/apache2/conf/httpd.conf:557 Syntax OK *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:58 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNS Server CentOS Install Also turn down Selinux Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 16, 2014 9:57 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you open the firewall? Do a netstat to see if it is running and telnet to see if you can connect to the ports. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 16, 2014 9:52 AM, Justin Marshall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hi, Trying to do an install of CNS Server on CentOS 6.6(x86_64). Accepted all the defaults
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Oh I like to drive... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCULQREBnik Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted to people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more involved. And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming more effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that don't know how to drive a stick any more. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote: On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes. I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car because they can't figure out how to operate it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] DC plant DIN rail UPS
I just put one of these together, seems to be what you're after. It provides juice so it works for me. ACDC battery charger Meanwell AD-155B Meanwell DRL-02 Meanwell DRP-03 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Josh Baird via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Have you looked at the Traco chargers and power supplies? On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We just had a bad experience with a battery charger/battery backup that did not work as expected. We're looking at this right now: https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=516011 What we like about this is that it has separate connections for battery load, and also does automatic battery tests with an alarm output. Is anyone using something similar that they like? -- -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
It's not the same thing AT ALL. It's a third gear box option. My car has automatic and paddle shift. It is not the same as driving the 6MT of the identical car at all. Remember there is no clutch and it is generally sequential, which is probably where that different feel of driving comes in. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: For manual lovers that have used flappy-paddle gear boxes, how do they compare in the involvement with the driving experience? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:54:16 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff All of my vehicles except my most recent car (and the work van) have been manual, I miss that quite a bit. On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted to people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more involved. And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming more effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that don't know how to drive a stick any more. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote: On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes. I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car because they can't figure out how to operate it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Not at all. The up/down on the stick shift for manu-matic is just weird and awful. When you're using paddles it's more F1 like. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I've never driven a real paddle shift, but I did have a car with a manually shiftable automatic, which I'd guess is a somewhat similar experience... definitely not at all the same as a stick shift, but it does give you somewhat more of an involved feel than automatic. The lack of a clutch definitely would make a huge difference. -- *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Josh Luthman via Af [ af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:01 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff It's not the same thing AT ALL. It's a third gear box option. My car has automatic and paddle shift. It is not the same as driving the 6MT of the identical car at all. Remember there is no clutch and it is generally sequential, which is probably where that different feel of driving comes in. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: For manual lovers that have used flappy-paddle gear boxes, how do they compare in the involvement with the driving experience? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:54:16 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff All of my vehicles except my most recent car (and the work van) have been manual, I miss that quite a bit. On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted to people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more involved. And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming more effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that don't know how to drive a stick any more. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote: On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes. I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car because they can't figure out how to operate it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated)
In school we had a Jack Imhoff. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 16, 2014 2:45 PM, Dan Petermann via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My chiropractor when I was younger was named Wayne Knauf. His brother’s name was Jack. I always wondered if their parents knew. Pop this in google: Dr. Wayne knauf Alexandria, mn On Dec 16, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Shayne Lebrun via Af af@afmug.com wrote: One day, way back in the dialup days, when people would sign up for an account, they’d have no idea what to use for an email address. So we suggested ‘first name, initial of last name.’ One day, an older gent comes in, signs up. My coworker brings me the form, I start to set it all up. Then I notice the email address. ‘Doug,’ I say, to my older, straight-laced, religious-type co-worker, ‘are you sure about this email address?’ ‘Yes,’ he says. ‘Really?’ says I. ‘Yes, ‘ he says. ‘Don G. That’s his name.’ ‘Look at the form, Doug,’ I urge. ‘Look at it.’ He looks. ‘Don G at ourdomain.com. Looks fine to me,’ he says. ‘Keep looking,’ I say, and I wait. Tick. Tick. Tick. “OH NO! “ and out he races to attempt to catch the man who just signed up for an email address of ‘d...@ourdomain.com’. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway via Af *Sent:* Sunday, December 14, 2014 2:59 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) Seriously, that would have been very cool. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy via Af *Sent:* Sunday, December 14, 2014 12:48 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) That's funny. My wife wanted to name our son Arrow until I made her say that one out loud. Arrow SmithI don't think so. On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Craig House via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My last name is House. When my son was on the way my wife and I were discussing names for him. She suggested Porter. She was serious until I made her say his whole name out loud. Craig -- *From: *Ben Wirch via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:14:37 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) I have a Brenda Titsworth as a sub. On Dec 13, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: But I really have a customer D. Cline, and his card really was declined, otherwise it wouldn’t be all that amusing. There’s no accounting for what people name their kids, though. I worked with a Howard Johnson, a Ronald McDonald, a Rusty Steele, and a Harry Dyke. I went to school with a Jerry Ferry. Oh, and I’ll bet Ben Dover downloads a lot of software from Cambium’s website. *From:* Craig House via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) And the twins Ben and Ilene Dover -- *From: *Jon Bruce via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:19:16 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) Can't forget good old Harry Showerdrain. On 12/13/2014 3:48 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote: I heard Cheech use it a movie but not sure where it comes from. Like I.P. Freely. Seymour Butts juvenile stuff. Jaime Solorza On Dec 13, 2014 1:38 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It took me a moment... *From:* Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 1:36 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated) My favorite is Chuck U. Farley Jaime Solorza On Dec 13, 2014 12:16 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a customer D. Cline whose credit card was declined. Oh, and note that today 12/13/14 is the last sequential date of the 21st century.
Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
Try http://poemounts.com/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:20 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] PTP600 and PTP650
Would have been a fantastic feature to upgrade the radios. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 15, 2014 1:33 PM, SmarterBroadband via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Thought as much, had a link fail and no spare on the shelf. Have a ptp600, hoping for a quick temp fix. Thanks Adam *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bruce Collins via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 10:24 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PTP600 and PTP650 Adam, No. You can’t connect a PTP 650 to a PTP 600 in a single link. You can synchronize PTP 650 links and PTP 600 links next to each other on the same tower but the air interface is not compatible. Regards, Bruce Product Manager Cambium Networks *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *SmarterBroadband via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 11:06 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] PTP600 and PTP650 I don’t suppose Cambium put in a compatibility mode so a 5.7 PTP650 could connect to a PTP600? Adam
Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
I don't think so, but look at the website's notice. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 15, 2014 1:38 PM, Erich Kaiser via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Do they have a holder for the larger POE units? On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Try http://poemounts.com/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:20 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
Yup that's how I heard about them, tried a few and they seem OK. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Heith Petersen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I think we got one of these free from WISPAlooza this year, as well as a handy lid for your cans of pop! *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 12:41 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures I don't think so, but look at the website's notice. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 15, 2014 1:38 PM, Erich Kaiser via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Do they have a holder for the larger POE units? On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Try http://poemounts.com/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:20 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4253/8741 - Release Date: 12/15/14