Re: [AFMUG] FW: Fiber termination DLX to LC

[Robbie Wright]

We just sent some of the ubnt outdoor fiber cable up a tower and it was a
joke. In hindsight, we should have used something like these waterproof
tails <http://www.fs.com/products/35229.html>. Get the real aluminum
interlock armored cable (not the aluminum wrap ubnt and others claim) and
don't try and pull it up a tower in a wind and rain storm. We have some
S16's we're installing with DC, fiber, and bbdge just for backup. Doing a
port channel up the tower over different mediums (bbdge and fiber) and
redundant power is pretty sweet.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com>
541-902-5101

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 8:25 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

> Yes J
>
>
>
> That is the exact point/challenge/question.
>
>
>
> I am doing the fusion splice (picture should have been attached).  Either
> chopping the end off a DLX test cable (all they had available sometimes –
> pictured) and splicing in an LC OR taking DLX flat drop cable with no end
> and splicing.
>
>
>
> The “problem” with that method is that you end up with a relatively weak
> unprotected cable that we have to “make into” a more solid cable by placing
> inside a Cat5 or plastic tubing.
>
>
>
> Looking for a more professional solution
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Erich Kaiser
> *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2017 11:04 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FW: Fiber termination DLX to LC
>
>
>
> Fusion splicer?  Order cables without end?
>
>
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
>
> North Central Tower
>
> er...@northcentraltower.com
>
> Office: 630-621-4804 <(630)%20621-4804>
>
> Cell: 630-777-9291 <(630)%20777-9291>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>
> With picture this time.
>
>
>
> *From:* Paul McCall
> *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2017 10:11 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Fiber termination DLX to LC
>
>
>
> When we ordered our MST’s, we were surprised that Commscope doesn’t make
> (even with special order), any drop cable that terminates into LC ends.  We
> run the MST up the tower than connect an UBNT S16 /R6 or BH radios with
> fiber from there.
>
>
>
> We have doing this with a “test cable” and then placing the whole assembly
> inside a Cat5 outdoor cable *by slitting the Cat5, then taping it up when
> we are done OR putting it in some small black flex tube (or both).
>
>
>
> There has to be a more professional way to get this done.  Maybe an
> assembly company we can have make it up for us.  We can also get the actual
> drop cable in a short length but we still face the same prospect of a
> flimsy termination section that we then have to protect.  I can get a
> bigger fanout fiber at the LC end but there is still likely going to be
> exposed “smaller cable” to get sealed and ruggedized.
>
>
>
> Seeking a good solution, with the other side benefit being there are some
> small towers where I will have a single LC connection at the top for an R6
> (micropop) or even and S16 and I have a bunch of flat drop cable I can
> easily put a couple ends on if I can get it ruggedized from there.
>
>
>
> This is probably a newbie type question, but we are not fiber ninjas as of
> yet J
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Leap Second Issue

[Robbie Wright]

I know this was a problem we experienced with MT the last time it happened.
Guess I need to look to see if it has been fixed...

On Dec 29, 2016 6:30 AM, "Paul Stewart"  wrote:

>
> We’re not finding out hopefully :)  On Nexus switches we have disabled NTP
> across the board until after New Years and then re-enable …. lots of last
> minute holiday fun haha
>
> On Dec 29, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Sounds painful...
>
> On Dec 29, 2016 6:59 AM, "Paul Stewart"  wrote:
>
>> FYI … in case you haven’t been following it
>>
>> http://www.nts.eu/en/networksecurity-en/linux-kernel-
>> crashes-due-leap-second-injection/
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] VPN in to AWS environment.

[Robbie Wright]

Yup. But routing traffic through the chr over the VPN from the aws
instances can be tricky. takes a bit of testing .

On Dec 1, 2016 2:17 PM, "Tyler Treat" <tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:

>
>
> That's good to hear.  Once that is operational, does it act like any other
> Tik?
>
> Thanks
> Tyler
> --
> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Robbie Wright <
> rob...@siuslawbroadband.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 1, 2016 4:09 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] VPN in to AWS environment.
>
> CHR's work fine at AWS, we've tested them pretty extensively. Getting the
> routing tables and default gateways to work correctly at AWS is the bigger
> issue. You basically turn the CHR into a NAT instance in AWS parlance.
>
>
> Robbie Wright
> Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com>
> 541-902-5101 <(541)%20902-5101>
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Tyler Treat <tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ok folks - how about this scenario.
>>
>> Say i have a handful of servers in AWS EC2 that I would like to have
>> software VPN access to from Phones, laptops, etc.  (ie, this isn't a site
>> to site vpn)
>> For simplicity's sake, let's say this is a completely isolated
>> environment.  No "public" access to said servers.
>>
>> What would be the best method to accomplish this.  From what I can see,
>> AWS will not natively support a client VPN directly to a VPC.
>> Could you turn up a Mikrotik CHR instance to serve this function?  Would
>> it work?
>>
>> Then scenario B:  if you had both a local VMWare environment, and an AWS
>> environment, would you be able to theoretically tunnel between CHR's on
>> both sides?
>> Or is this something that is outright disallowed in AWS?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tyler
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] VPN in to AWS environment.

[Robbie Wright]

CHR's work fine at AWS, we've tested them pretty extensively. Getting the
routing tables and default gateways to work correctly at AWS is the bigger
issue. You basically turn the CHR into a NAT instance in AWS parlance.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com>
541-902-5101

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Tyler Treat <tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
wrote:

> Ok folks - how about this scenario.
>
> Say i have a handful of servers in AWS EC2 that I would like to have
> software VPN access to from Phones, laptops, etc.  (ie, this isn't a site
> to site vpn)
> For simplicity's sake, let's say this is a completely isolated
> environment.  No "public" access to said servers.
>
> What would be the best method to accomplish this.  From what I can see,
> AWS will not natively support a client VPN directly to a VPC.
> Could you turn up a Mikrotik CHR instance to serve this function?  Would
> it work?
>
> Then scenario B:  if you had both a local VMWare environment, and an AWS
> environment, would you be able to theoretically tunnel between CHR's on
> both sides?
> Or is this something that is outright disallowed in AWS?
>
>
> Thanks
> Tyler
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

[Robbie Wright]

We looked at visp (who seemed awesome), ended up using whmcs with radius
(since we do a decent amount of web hosting) and it's been great. Keeping
an eye on Sonar though, it looks very promising.

On Sep 16, 2016 7:35 AM, "Tim Reichhart" 
wrote:

You can also check out Iwisp.gr that is what I am using.

--
-Original Message-
From: "Cassidy B. Larson" 
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 09/16/16 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

We have been using Platypus for the past 16 years.  It hasn't changed much
in all that time.
Client is still windows-only based. Still runs on SQL server.  There's an
API exposed now, but it's still clunky.  I don't want to run a VM just for
Platypus! Give me a web client!

We've wanted to change for years, but Powercode never ticked all the right
boxes for me. I'm a UI snob and want something that looks like it had some
time put into the user interface.
For me, Powercode felt like it was still using the same design from the
early days and they were just hacking in features on the same backend code.
Every year at wispapalooza we'd walk the floor, seeing what billing systems
were out there.. hoping and praying something better was coming around but
never found anything until Sonar started development.

Sonar looks to be built with Web 3.0 (is that a thing now?) in mind.  I've
been eagerly awaiting their features being pushed out each month so we can
finally bite the bullet and migrate.
They expose web hooks, publish their APIs and all the methods you can use
to integrate with your own systems (critical to us). Integrations with
Slack for ticketing is a big plus.
We're finally excited again about a billing system and I'm planning on
converting by end of year.


We've had demo's from all the ones you've listed.  Most wouldn't scale to
what we needed. I think one had Java client (ugh).

I suggest checking out Sonar.. it's how a billing system in 2016 should
look, operate and perform.

On Sep 15, 2016, at 11:50 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:



Could I trouble you all for a quick survey / recommendation on billing
systems?

I've been looking at;

Power code ( seems like too many red flags with this company)

Platypus ( good price, but I don't want to become a dev just to bill my
customers)

Visp seems like a decent option?

Wisp Mon? Don't know much about them, prices seem high, haven't heard
anything bad so that's a good sign?

Swift fox? ( Seems like unpopular option maybe because they're new?)

Sonar? Maybe that's the one?

Re: [AFMUG] Email DMARC

[Robbie Wright]

Exactly, that's the point. Our dmarc record says that if an email fails our
authentication, 75% of the time they should be sent to spam. This mailing
list is not dmarc compliant since it tries to spoof your address when it
send the email. The amfug mail system isn't in our spf records, thus fails
dmarc validation. This is the way we choose it to be. I'd like to have
control of who can send mail on our behalf. Mailing lists are notorious for
not being setup correctly to be dmarc complaint, for better or worse. I
know you're heavily involved in these lists so it'd be a royal pain for you
to use dmarc since most of yours would go to spam. However, that also means
nefarious people can easily spoof your domain and send mail pretending to
be from your ISP (not your gmail account.)


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com>
541-902-5101

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 1:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> rather ironic this response was in my spam folder
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Robbie Wright <
> rob...@siuslawbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> _dmarc.example.com TXT "v=DMARC1; p=none;
>>
>>
>> But it's worthless. DMARC is great for stopping spear phishing attacks
>> and makes it very hard to spoof domains. It is also the reason that most of
>> these lists can't send email for domains like ours because our dmarc/spf
>> doesn't list them as an authorized sender since the list is trying to fake
>> our email address. But dmarc=none tells the world you know what dmarc is
>> and don't care. Rackspace however, if they are hosting email for you, will
>> be able to cause all kinds of challenges if you don't take care of it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Robbie Wright
>> Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com>
>> 541-902-5101
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> rackspace says theyre going to start enforcing this, for whatever that
>>> means
>>> I glanced through it, sounded like a neat idea even though its not
>>> really practical
>>> Whats a generic thing to put for the record that basically says "I dont
>>> give a shit what you do with it as long as you tell the sender theres an
>>> issue, dont tell me about it, cause I dont give a shit, do you know that
>>> wild turkey has honey whiskey now? thats some tasty shit, worry about the
>>> whiskey and leave me alone"
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Email DMARC

[Robbie Wright]

_dmarc.example.com TXT "v=DMARC1; p=none;


But it's worthless. DMARC is great for stopping spear phishing attacks and
makes it very hard to spoof domains. It is also the reason that most of
these lists can't send email for domains like ours because our dmarc/spf
doesn't list them as an authorized sender since the list is trying to fake
our email address. But dmarc=none tells the world you know what dmarc is
and don't care. Rackspace however, if they are hosting email for you, will
be able to cause all kinds of challenges if you don't take care of it.



Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com>
541-902-5101

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> rackspace says theyre going to start enforcing this, for whatever that
> means
> I glanced through it, sounded like a neat idea even though its not really
> practical
> Whats a generic thing to put for the record that basically says "I dont
> give a shit what you do with it as long as you tell the sender theres an
> issue, dont tell me about it, cause I dont give a shit, do you know that
> wild turkey has honey whiskey now? thats some tasty shit, worry about the
> whiskey and leave me alone"
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] infrastructure PTR naming conventions

[Robbie Wright]

Of note,  v13.eth1.locID.tld.net is much different than
v13-eth1-locID.tld.net when it comes to dns. If you use periods in your
names, you're actually creating subzones, which can greatly complicate your
life and your dns. Unless you have a very strong reason to use sub zones,
like you run dns in different states with different resolvers, or AD is in
your main tld  (like you should be), then stick to hyphens.

On Aug 27, 2016 8:43 AM, "Paul Stewart"  wrote:

> All of our RFC1918 space is for management so they all follow
> device.man.loc.domain.com
>
>
>
> Device – device name
>
> Man – management
>
> Loc – three letter location POP code
>
> Domain.com – our domain
>
>
>
> These internal zones are not reachable from the outside
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* August 24, 2016 10:12 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] infrastructure PTR naming conventions
>
>
>
> I know this is alot like asking which mail server is best or which cable
> to use. Im putting up a DNS server with our rfc1918 space thats in use on
> it. Ive been reading a ton of conventions people use, some granular, some
> vague.
>
> anybody care to share some examples?
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Baofong radios

[Robbie Wright]

Jon is spot on. You could dial down the output power with CHIRP or
something for MURS and GMRS and probably not get caught. It'd be like
running Mikrotik on DFS. Not legal and just waiting to get caught, but they
chances could be slim.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com>
541-902-5101

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:

> I assumed I could use FRS or GMRS.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Sands
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:44 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baofong radios
>
>
>
> "Legally"? without an amateur radio license or commercial business license
> (assuming you have one of the few baofeng models that are part 90
> certified) - nowhere.
>
> To use them in the amateur radio bands you'd obviously need an amateur
> radio license, that leaves FRS, GMRS, and the MURS bands, all of which
> would technically be illegal to use on a baofeng as they aren't part 95
> certified. Granted that hasn't stopped thousands of clueless amazon
> customers from using them on MURS and FRS frequencies, but it is
> technically "illegal" and they have about ten times the output power that's
> allowed on the FRS band.
>
> Does that mean anything will happen if you punch in MURS frequencies and
> turn the output power down to a watt? Doubtful, I've certainly never heard
> of any FCC enforcement over this without quite a bit of written complaints
> first, but keep in mind you would technically be outside of legal
> operation. Other, more stingy amateur radio operators on the list (KD9DAL
> here) might wince at me even mentioning the possibility of you doing so,
> and I understand where they're coming from. It's the equivalent of wireless
> jaywalking, assuming you keep the output power down and don't cause any
> interference there aren't any "victims" and people do it everyday, but
> there's the potential to cause interference to people using the bands
> legally with type-certified radios
>
> clarification: this is assuming you meant transmitting. If you're just
> using it for receive, listen anywhere you please
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/17/2016 8:14 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>
> I bought a couple of Baofong FM/VHF/UHF radios for a race car.  What
> frequency range can I program it for that are legal for the weekend?
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net <r...@triadwireless.net>*
>
> *www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net>*
>
>
>
> “I wish I could play little league now.  I’d be way better than before.”
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jon Sands
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

[Robbie Wright]

Correct, we're both right. All of the other groups do require coordination
though.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com>
541-902-5101

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 9:50 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> Group C low power nation-wide is not coordinated.
>
> On 5/11/2016 11:19 PM, Robbie Wright wrote:
>
> The only Baofeng with any cert is the UV82C, which is certified for use in
> Part 90 land mobile. Business itinerant is locally coordinated and you are
> issued specific freq's to use. The band is shared, but freq's are not,
> George is incorrect. I proved this link
> <http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=licensing_3=industrial_business>to
> the FCC site earlier, but my email may get eaten by spam since this list
> breaks dmarc.
>
>
> Robbie Wright
> Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com>
> 541-902-5101
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> OK   good to know
>> On May 11, 2016 8:46 PM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nope, you need a business itinerant license to use the itinerant
>>> channels. I believe it falls under Part 90 LMR. There's no frequency
>>> coordination because obviously everything is shared. WISPs should be used
>>> to that though.
>>>
>>> There are dozens of schools and stuff around here that bought and use
>>> radios and never bothered to get a license. Whatever.
>>>
>>> On 5/11/2016 9:24 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
>>> Not for iterant frequencies I think.
>>> On May 11, 2016 8:11 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" < <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>>> fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> related question do these require a license ?
>>>>
>>>> if yes, what is involved in getting one ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232>
>>>>
>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: <supp...@snappytelecom.net>
>>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" < <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>>> *To: * <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:47:18 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?
>>>>
>>>> The Baofung are actually decent for something like tower work as they
>>>> are so cheap I'd they are dropped you dobby even have to look for it.  Be
>>>> careful to get the fcc certified ones as not all are certified that are
>>>> sold here.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 11, 2016, 1:38 PM George Skorup < <geo...@cbcast.com>
>>>> geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You can get a 6pk of those on Amazon for $80.
>>>>>
>>>>> But me personally, I use my Wouxun UV8D. Dual band is nice so I can
>>>>> monitor NOAA weather radio, local VHF public safety dispatch, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/11/2016 9:33 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/4x-BAOFENG-BF-888S-UHF-400-470MHz-5W-16CH-Ham-Two-Way-Radio-Walkie-Talkie-US-/391378028608?hash=item5b1ff2c840:g:BggAAOSwvUlWslRV>
>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/4x-BAOFENG-BF-888S-UHF-400-470MHz-5W-16CH-Ham-Two-Way-Radio-Walkie-Talkie-US-/391378028608?hash=item5b1ff2c840:g:BggAAOSwvUlWslRV
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BAOFENG.  Cheap and work decent.  You can get headsets and other
>>>>> accessories.  No bluetooth.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin Wilson
>>>>> <j...@mtin.net>j...@mtin.net
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> <http://www.mtin.net>http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>>>>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.midwest-ix.com>http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
>>>>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 11, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Tushar Patel < <tpa...@ecpi.com>
>>>>> tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> We have been using two way radios (consumer grade) by Motorola.  It is
>>>>> ok to use but we are looking to get somethings better which makes it easy
>>>>> for tower crew to use.
>>>>>
>>>>> No days when we go to some department stores or Apple Store etc. all
>>>>> the employees their have nice head set and small talk button to speak. It
>>>>> would be good to have Bluetooth on them so person on the top can talk with
>>>>> ease.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tushar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

[Robbie Wright]

The only Baofeng with any cert is the UV82C, which is certified for use in
Part 90 land mobile. Business itinerant is locally coordinated and you are
issued specific freq's to use. The band is shared, but freq's are not,
George is incorrect. I proved this link
<http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=licensing_3=industrial_business>to
the FCC site earlier, but my email may get eaten by spam since this list
breaks dmarc.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com>
541-902-5101

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> OK   good to know
> On May 11, 2016 8:46 PM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>
>> Nope, you need a business itinerant license to use the itinerant
>> channels. I believe it falls under Part 90 LMR. There's no frequency
>> coordination because obviously everything is shared. WISPs should be used
>> to that though.
>>
>> There are dozens of schools and stuff around here that bought and use
>> radios and never bothered to get a license. Whatever.
>>
>> On 5/11/2016 9:24 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> Not for iterant frequencies I think.
>> On May 11, 2016 8:11 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> related question do these require a license ?
>>>
>>> if yes, what is involved in getting one ?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232>
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:47:18 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?
>>>
>>> The Baofung are actually decent for something like tower work as they
>>> are so cheap I'd they are dropped you dobby even have to look for it.  Be
>>> careful to get the fcc certified ones as not all are certified that are
>>> sold here.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 11, 2016, 1:38 PM George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You can get a 6pk of those on Amazon for $80.
>>>>
>>>> But me personally, I use my Wouxun UV8D. Dual band is nice so I can
>>>> monitor NOAA weather radio, local VHF public safety dispatch, etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/11/2016 9:33 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/4x-BAOFENG-BF-888S-UHF-400-470MHz-5W-16CH-Ham-Two-Way-Radio-Walkie-Talkie-US-/391378028608?hash=item5b1ff2c840:g:BggAAOSwvUlWslRV
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BAOFENG.  Cheap and work decent.  You can get headsets and other
>>>> accessories.  No bluetooth.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Justin Wilson
>>>> <j...@mtin.net>j...@mtin.net
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>>>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.midwest-ix.com>http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
>>>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>>>>
>>>> On May 11, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Tushar Patel < <tpa...@ecpi.com>
>>>> tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> We have been using two way radios (consumer grade) by Motorola.  It is
>>>> ok to use but we are looking to get somethings better which makes it easy
>>>> for tower crew to use.
>>>>
>>>> No days when we go to some department stores or Apple Store etc. all
>>>> the employees their have nice head set and small talk button to speak. It
>>>> would be good to have Bluetooth on them so person on the top can talk with
>>>> ease.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> Tushar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

[Robbie Wright]

Not to play the wet blanket, but there are a few issues with those. One,
only one Baofeng has any FCC certification, namely the UV-82C. The UV82
does not. Even then, it is only approved for the business itinerant use
with FCC Part 90. Those frequencies have to be allocated and assigned to
you, you can't just use them. No Baofeng is type certified for FRS or GMRS
and technically illegal to use in those bands since the radios aren't type
certified.

You can use FRS frequencies for business use but you cannot use GMRS for
business use, unless someone is personally licensed for GMRS and it is
their business.

All that said, Baofengs do make a great, cheap radio to use for tower work.
If one falls off the tower, it isn't the end of the world and the
functionality is reasonable for their price.

The right way to do two way radios for tower work is to use your local
frequency coordinator
<http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=licensing_3=industrial_business>
to be issued your own freq in the itinerant bands.  This becomes your
licensed freq and nobody else can (or should) use it. The UV82C would then
be a legal radio to use, along with a host of other Motorola or Kenwood
radios.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com>
541-902-5101

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 7:38 AM, Justin Wilson <li...@mtin.net> wrote:

> They are 5 watts so decent output power.  I have talked to guys going to
> the store a few miles out easily from a tower.
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
>
> ---
> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>
> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>
> On May 11, 2016, at 10:35 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>
> What is the range on these Justin?
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Justin Wilson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:33 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/4x-BAOFENG-BF-888S-UHF-400-470MHz-5W-16CH-Ham-Two-Way-Radio-Walkie-Talkie-US-/391378028608?hash=item5b1ff2c840:g:BggAAOSwvUlWslRV
>
>
> BAOFENG.  Cheap and work decent.  You can get headsets and other
> accessories.  No bluetooth.
>
>
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
>
> ---
> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>
> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>
>
> On May 11, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi
>
> We have been using two way radios (consumer grade) by Motorola.  It is ok
> to use but we are looking to get somethings better which makes it easy for
> tower crew to use.
>
> No days when we go to some department stores or Apple Store etc. all the
> employees their have nice head set and small talk button to speak. It would
> be good to have Bluetooth on them so person on the top can talk with ease.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Tushar
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] DKIM

[Robbie Wright]

We have it setup and it works great. And DMARC as well. Except for this
mailing list. You'll fail DKIM checks on this list (and many others) and
likely get marked as spam.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com>
541-902-5101

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone here not have DKIM set up on your domain's MX? If not, why not?
>

Re: [AFMUG] 477 SAC and Filer IDs

[Robbie Wright]

Mine either. Subs went, deployment didn't.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com>
541-902-5101

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:45 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> this deployment set just wont load, stupid fcc
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 5:34 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I always thought it was to let white people know how tho pronounce the J
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> No ese vatos...its for Holmes. Orale! His cart was chopped down short...
>>> Low to the ground.. Metal flake sand color with baby moons and tuck and
>>> roll upholstery.. It was a really choice ride!!
>>> On Aug 31, 2015 4:26 PM, "Dan Petermann" <d...@wyoming.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I asked that question once and the answer I got was Hemp.
>>>>
>>>> I don’t think that is correct….
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 31, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've always wondered what the "H" stood for in that exclamation.
>>>> He-man?  Holy?
>>>>
>>>> On 8/31/2015 5:07 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jesus H christ!
>>>>
>>>> This thing is still processing a 1k file
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had same problem yesterday. But after clicking few times it let me
>>>>> go pass that point without having numbers in those field.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tushar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 31, 2015, at 3:25 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This website is making me put these two thing in, what are they, this
>>>>> is different than the last round
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Route Control solutions

[Robbie Wright]

Correct, said another way, BGP prefers the most specific route. So like
Mike said, if a network sees the same IP block in a /22 and as a /24, it go
to the /24.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Yes. If you advertise a /22 out of one provider and then two /23 of that
 /22s out another provider, all traffic will come in the second provider.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, August 12, 2015 7:04:39 AM

 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] BGP Route Control solutions

 I had heard that if you advertise smaller IP blocks via one leg of the BGP
 (one provider), that that will “influence” the traffic on those blocks to
 come that direction.



 Is that true?



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2015 8:57 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BGP Route Control solutions



 It's been coming soon longer than

 From what I can tell, Border6 is the only one that does any sort of
 inbound traffic manipulation.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

 https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
 --

 *From: *Robbie Wright rob...@siuslawbroadband.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:13:12 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] BGP Route Control solutions

 Correct, but the have an inbound version in the works as well. Supposed to
 be Q2 of this year...




 Robbie Wright

 Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com

 541-902-5101



 On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Noction is among those that only affect outbound.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

 https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
 --

 *From: *Robbie Wright rob...@siuslawbroadband.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:35:59 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] BGP Route Control solutions

 http://www.noction.com/



 We trialed it and it was awesome. Under $2k a month IIRC.




 Robbie Wright

 Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com

 541-902-5101



 On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
 wrote:

 I’ve heard mixed things … something that personally I prefer to do by hand
 vs having some automation take over …



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:25 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] BGP Route Control solutions



 Is anyone using any automated functionality, software or appliance to
 optimize the BGP connections in/out of your network?



 With disparate pipe sizes, it is an interesting concept.  Just reading up
 on the concept now



 Paul McCall, Pres.

 PDMNet / Florida Broadband

 658 Old Dixie Highway

 Vero Beach, FL 32962

 772-564-6800 office

 772-473-0352 cell

 www.pdmnet.com

 pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Route Control solutions

[Robbie Wright]

http://www.noction.com/

We trialed it and it was awesome. Under $2k a month IIRC.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote:

 I’ve heard mixed things … something that personally I prefer to do by hand
 vs having some automation take over …



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:25 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] BGP Route Control solutions



 Is anyone using any automated functionality, software or appliance to
 optimize the BGP connections in/out of your network?



 With disparate pipe sizes, it is an interesting concept.  Just reading up
 on the concept now



 Paul McCall, Pres.

 PDMNet / Florida Broadband

 658 Old Dixie Highway

 Vero Beach, FL 32962

 772-564-6800 office

 772-473-0352 cell

 www.pdmnet.com

 pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Route Control solutions

[Robbie Wright]

Correct, but the have an inbound version in the works as well. Supposed to
be Q2 of this year...


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Noction is among those that only affect outbound.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

 https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
 --
 *From: *Robbie Wright rob...@siuslawbroadband.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:35:59 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] BGP Route Control solutions

 http://www.noction.com/

 We trialed it and it was awesome. Under $2k a month IIRC.


 Robbie Wright
 Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com
 541-902-5101

 On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
 wrote:

 I’ve heard mixed things … something that personally I prefer to do by
 hand vs having some automation take over …



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:25 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] BGP Route Control solutions



 Is anyone using any automated functionality, software or appliance to
 optimize the BGP connections in/out of your network?



 With disparate pipe sizes, it is an interesting concept.  Just reading up
 on the concept now



 Paul McCall, Pres.

 PDMNet / Florida Broadband

 658 Old Dixie Highway

 Vero Beach, FL 32962

 772-564-6800 office

 772-473-0352 cell

 www.pdmnet.com

 pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Route Control solutions

[Robbie Wright]

Agreed, our ISP isn't either, but a different business is. Killer stuff,
just spendy for smaller guys. Internap makes some similar things as well,
but I've personally experienced them and been very unhappy.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote:

 I don’t think we are at the scale where that would justify the cost



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Robbie Wright
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:36 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BGP Route Control solutions



 http://www.noction.com/



 We trialed it and it was awesome. Under $2k a month IIRC.




 Robbie Wright

 Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com

 541-902-5101



 On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
 wrote:

 I’ve heard mixed things … something that personally I prefer to do by hand
 vs having some automation take over …



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:25 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] BGP Route Control solutions



 Is anyone using any automated functionality, software or appliance to
 optimize the BGP connections in/out of your network?



 With disparate pipe sizes, it is an interesting concept.  Just reading up
 on the concept now



 Paul McCall, Pres.

 PDMNet / Florida Broadband

 658 Old Dixie Highway

 Vero Beach, FL 32962

 772-564-6800 office

 772-473-0352 cell

 www.pdmnet.com

 pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Route Control solutions

[Robbie Wright]

Yeah, that's how I lean. Lots of peering.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote:

 For hosting companies or content providers I can see some advantages.. for
 ISP’s I only see limited advantages …



 My answer to this is much easier … more peering J Assuming the peering is
 optimized and has the capacity on both sides too



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Robbie Wright
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2015 12:13 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BGP Route Control solutions



 Correct, but the have an inbound version in the works as well. Supposed to
 be Q2 of this year...




 Robbie Wright

 Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com

 541-902-5101



 On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Noction is among those that only affect outbound.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

 https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
 --

 *From: *Robbie Wright rob...@siuslawbroadband.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:35:59 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] BGP Route Control solutions

 http://www.noction.com/



 We trialed it and it was awesome. Under $2k a month IIRC.




 Robbie Wright

 Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com

 541-902-5101



 On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
 wrote:

 I’ve heard mixed things … something that personally I prefer to do by hand
 vs having some automation take over …



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:25 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] BGP Route Control solutions



 Is anyone using any automated functionality, software or appliance to
 optimize the BGP connections in/out of your network?



 With disparate pipe sizes, it is an interesting concept.  Just reading up
 on the concept now



 Paul McCall, Pres.

 PDMNet / Florida Broadband

 658 Old Dixie Highway

 Vero Beach, FL 32962

 772-564-6800 office

 772-473-0352 cell

 www.pdmnet.com

 pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] Portland WISP

[Robbie Wright]

Oregon or Maine?


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote:

 Anyone on here a WISP in Portland that handles biz class connections?




 *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com

Re: [AFMUG] Portland WISP

[Robbie Wright]

Freewire and Stephouse.
On Jul 22, 2015 2:57 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote:

 Oregon..




 *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Robbie Wright
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 22, 2015 12:18 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Portland WISP



 Oregon or Maine?




 Robbie Wright

 Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com

 541-902-5101



 On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com
 wrote:

 Anyone on here a WISP in Portland that handles biz class connections?




 *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com

Re: [AFMUG] rack mount UPS.

[Robbie Wright]

Yeah, we've had great luck with the APC rack mount lines. 750's, XL's, even
got a 1500 in prod. Network management cards and snmp is awesome.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

  +1.  George has never steered me wrong.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 6/3/2015 12:33 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 I agree/do what George said


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:29 PM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote:

  He said he already has PacketFlux injectors.

 The RB1100 will run 24v PoE in on ether13. Everything else listed is also
 24v. But I bet the 1100 will not like DC float voltage (27).

 I would put in a Mean Well AD-155B and a RSD150B-24. Fuse everything.

 My $0.0314


 On 6/3/2015 2:15 PM, TJ Trout wrote:

 Get a netonix dc poe switch, a battery and a ICT Dc ups :) Your
 converting DC to AC and then back to DC

 On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Brandon Yuchasz li...@gogebicrange.net
 wrote:

  Looking to see if anyone has and feedback on this unit.
 http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/products/ups-systems/smart-app-ups/rackmount-lcd/CPS1500AVR.html



 We are looking for a rack mount UPS to install at a remote site. It all
 cambium. 3 FSK 2Epmp and 4 Eptp. All those are feed through PacketFlux.
 Also have one Mikrotik RB1100. So it’s a fairly light site. The rack is in
 a small enclosure so this seems to be a good fit. I am not looking for a
 long run time just something to even out the spring time power issues
 during storms.







 Best regards,

 Brandon Yuchasz

 GogebicRange.net

 www.gogebicrange.net

Re: [AFMUG] Web interfaces for BIND

[Robbie Wright]

We've been super happy with fmDNS in FacileManager. Great gui for bind.
Same here

On May 23, 2015 4:40:49 PM AKDT, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote:

 No, not saying web interfaces are bad … just that I work on CLI all day
 long for various things, and I find it just as fast (generally speaking)



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Saturday, May 23, 2015 7:11 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Web interfaces for BIND



 You prefer adding zone config CLI?  Are these web interfaces that bad?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On May 23, 2015 7:08 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote:

 Webmin is simple and works – would be quite useful if someone needed a web
 interface for BIND.  Personally much prefer CLI for that kind of stuff….



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
 *Sent:* Saturday, May 23, 2015 6:22 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com; Ken Hohhof
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Web interfaces for BIND



 Every time somebody says webmin, I die a little inside. :(

 On May 23, 2015 2:21:13 PM AKDT, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
 afmug@kwisp.c+om wrote:

 There’s always webmin.



 *From:* Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com

 *Sent:* Saturday, May 23, 2015 5:09 PM

 *To:* af@afmug.com ; Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Web interfaces for BIND



 GestioIP can export DNS to bind config

 On May 23, 2015 2:04:28 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 Any suggestions for this?



 I'm tired of having to SSH in and type things out.  I'd love to have
 something that makes adding zones less painful and more pretty.  There's
 just too big of a list to make a good decision...
 http://www.debianadmin.com/bind-dns-server-web-interfacefrontend-or-gui-tools.html



 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 --
 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


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Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance

[Robbie Wright]

x2 for namebench.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband http://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 I think he means the closer CDNs as opposed to the ones located in
 Timbuktu.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote:

 For performance, look at queryperf which I think is provided by ISC/bind.

 I'm not sure what you mean by we are getting good CDNs and the like,
 though.

 Josh

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:27 AM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Im bringing live our first caching server today. Is there a good tool
 for comparing queries between DNS servers.
 Im not all that concerned about speed since we are so small there wont
 be a huge amount of benefit I would think. Im primarily wanting to make
 sure we are getting good CDNs and the like

 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

[AFMUG] More mail list critiques - dmarc

[Robbie Wright]

I know it is a thankless job, so thanks Paul and crew for battling the
mailing list and all the feedback that comes with it. I know some of the
DKIM stuff was talked about before but the mailing list is still attempting
to twist some of the header info in an incorrect manner.

Specifically, many of the emails from the list will go right to spam.
Google even tries to help.


​The reason why this is happening is this:

Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
   spf=pass (google.com: domain of
014bede4f828-7a6d5c1b-9fc6-4a97-a3d1-77708e78790d-000...@amazonses.com
designates 54.240.9.55 as permitted sender)
smtp.mail=014bede4f828-7a6d5c1b-9fc6-4a97-a3d1-77708e78790d-000...@amazonses.com;
   dkim=pass header.i=@amazonses.com;
   dmarc=fail (p=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=siuslawbroadband.com


Note that SPF and DKIM both pass because SES is sending those for their own
domain but the mail is faking our domain, which in this cases cases DMARC
to fail and quarantine the email. As more people roll out DKIM and DMARC,
the amount of spam that is generated from the list will go up quickly. This
basically boils down to the list faking the from address from our domain
and our DMARC record saying, Not so fast.

I know how I would fix this, but I wanted to see what the group (politely)
thought about it.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband http://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Dst-nat question

[Robbie Wright]

MT's wiki is actually pretty accurate on this subject:

http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Hairpin_NAT


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband http://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com
wrote:

 Josh,

 Let me clarify

 When the customer is not home and is on a public network he will
 access his DVR via the public IP address 199.47.xxx.yyy.  This works
 fine.

 However, if he tries to access the public IP address while he is at
 home, we have an issue.  It doesn't work.  He needs to access the DVR
 via the local address 192.168.2.137.

 In most cases this is fine if the device lives in just one space such
 as a desktop.  It gets annoying when the device moves from space to
 space such as cell phone.  Yes, I can put two entries in the DVR APP.
  But that seems like rigging it to the normal user.

 I would like to a nat, netmap, etc.  When the user acesses
 199.47.xxx.yyy from his private 192.168.2.0/24 network, it actually
 will access 192.168.2.137 on the private network.

 Ideas?


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 www.MyakkaTech.com

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 Thursday, March 5, 2015, 5:53:18 PM, you wrote:

 JL Masquerade the local traffic.ￜ Jobs done.

 JL Josh Luthman
 JL Office: 937-552-2340
 JL Direct: 937-552-2343
 JL 1100 Wayne St
 JL Suite 1337
 JL Troy, OH 45373

 JL On Mar 5, 2015 5:41 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com
 wrote:
 JL I have a customer with a DVR, so we do the port forwarding thing in
 JL mikrotik and they can now access the DVR from the Internet all is
 JL good.

 JL However, I want to do some type of re-direct on the internal network
 JL so they can use the public IP on the internal network to access the
 JL DVR.

 JL This is what I tried?

 JL 1ￜ ￜ ;;; DVR TCP External Access (works fine)
 JL ￜ ￜ ￜ chain=dstnat action=dst-nat to-addresses=192.168.2.137
 protocol=tcp
 JL ￜ ￜ ￜ in-interface=ether1 dst-port=8080,554,8000 log=no
 log-prefix=

 JL ￜ2 Xￜ ;;; DVR TCP Internal Access (Not Working)
 JL ￜ ￜ ￜ chain=dstnat action=netmap to-addresses=192.168.2.137
 protocol=tcp
 JL ￜ ￜ ￜ dst-address=199.47.xxx.yyy in-interface=Local
 dst-port=8080,554,8000
 JL ￜ ￜ ￜ log=no log-prefix=

 JL Tried both netmap and dst-nat on line 2 with no luck






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 JL Thanks,
 JL ￜMarkￜ ￜ ￜ ￜ ￜ ￜ ￜ ￜ ￜ ￜ ￜ ￜ ￜ mailto:
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Re: [AFMUG] Simple Alarm Panel

[Robbie Wright via Af]

We are using ubnt's mfi for some of that. Works great.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband http://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 APC + card is probably 300 or 400 and does everything.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 Not terribly cheap, are they?

 -Original Message- From: Nate Burke via Af Sent: Tuesday,
 December 30, 2014 8:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Simple
 Alarm Panel
 Depending on how many contacts you need, the APC boards work well. like
 the AP9619.  You can get a single chassis for it that you just power.  It
 has 1 set of contact closures, and will send an email when it trips.


 On 12/30/2014 9:18 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

 I was asking a similar question a week or two ago. There are some small
 developer type of boards in the $40 range.
 One could do it by just looping back an ethernet port if you had some
 way to send traps when that port changed state.

 -Original Message- From: Matt via Af
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 6:31 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] Simple Alarm Panel

 Looking for an economical device with contact closure inputs that will
 send email and text alerts using a provided Internet connection. Say
 a door is opened at a tower site I want an email or text message or
 both.  Anyone know of anything?  Thinking of using something like an
 Arduino but hate to reinvent the wheel.

Re: [AFMUG] Windows SNMP tool

[Robbie Wright via Af]

We've used this before with pretty good luck.

http://www.paessler.com/tools/snmptester

Won't scan a subnet, just an individual host.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband http://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM, SmarterBroadband via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:

 Does anyone know of a windows SNMP tool where I can read and write to an
 OID.



 Easy tool, just enter subnet and oid to work on and get a list of results?



 If not windows, gui Linux?



 Thanks



 Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Source for used Smart UPS XL

[Robbie Wright via Af]

X2 for refurbups.com.
On Nov 6, 2014 8:16 AM, Josh Baird via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 We buy from excessups.com and refurbups.com.  Call them to get your
 pricing, it will be better than what is shown on their websites.

 Josh

 On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Looking for another rack mountable unit and I want to throw in some
 bigger batteries.  The old unit just doesn't have the battery capacity and
 I'm afraid of asking too much of the little charger.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Network monitor.

[Robbie Wright via Af]

Yup, like Josh said. Observium is pretty sweet and good be awesomer. We've
been pushing on them for some better support for wireless devices but
haven't got any movement on it yet, even with quite a few offers to pay
them. For us, we use PRTG for critical devices to alter us in email, sms,
etc because Observium can only test every 5 minutes and still have some
hokiness in alerting. But it kicks butt at tracking traffic, 95th % stuff,
and even things like tracking firmware versions, and autodiscovery. We've
integrated SmokePing into it for some better ping stats and are working on
using some of their unix agents for bind, apache, and mysql. Rancid is on
our list as well.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband http://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  Didn't look.

 goes to look...

 We're not using rancid at this time.

 Everything I've configured I've done using this:
 http://www.observium.org/wiki/Configuration_Options

 Or via the observium mailing list... like setup a ramdisk to push all of
 the .rrd's to before syncing with a folder on the SSD array (every 6 hrs).

 I've been on there with Robbie Wright, Chris Ruschman, and a few others
 trying to get them to support certain products. I guess I'll just have to
 push a pile of cash their way. I really like observium as a whole.

  Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
 SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
  On 11/03/2014 04:08 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:

 Link I posted earlier.  1:53



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, November 3, 2014 7:07:49 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Network monitor.

 Miller's blog?

  Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
 SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
  On 11/03/2014 02:51 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:

 Missing anything from Miller's blog?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, November 3, 2014 5:45:28 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Network monitor.

 oops forgot about syslog! :) We have all of our observium monitored
 devices sending syslog info to it as well

  Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
 SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
  On 11/03/2014 10:54 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:

 Observium and LibreNMS are what the cool kids are running these days.

 A friend of mine put out a series of blog posts regarding how to install
 Observium and then how to integrate it with various other services like
 syslog, Rancid, etc.

 http://bit.ly/1qmtAKW



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

  --
 *From: *Joshua Heide via Af af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, November 3, 2014 12:38:00 PM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] Network monitor.

  Besides prtg and cacti is there anything else out there worth looking
 into. Currently we use prtg to monitor all of our towers and things at our
 noc. Then we use cacti to monitor our customers. Just curious what you guys
 use and if there anything new coming out.



 Thanks,



 Josh Heide

 Velociter Wireless

 (office) 209-838-1221

 (fax) 209-838-1800

 www.velociter.net

Re: [AFMUG] Mailing List Behavior

[Robbie Wright via Af]

You're correct Seth, there is a difference between the envelope sender and
the mail from address.In the case of DMARC, it requires that the envelope
sender domain match that of the dkim domain and that of the mail from
domain to achieve what they call alignment.

I can't recall who did the move, but they chose option number 3a here:
http://www.dmarc.org/faq.html#s_3

I agree, not seeing the original sender's email addy isn't ideal. From a
mail sending stand point, the list is doing it correct (in my opinion) but
it does make it a little less usable.

And on a side note, next time I'm in Tahoe, I'd love to buy you a beer and
talk about TahoeIX. I love the idea of smaller IX's like that and would
love to see/hear what you guys are doing.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband http://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 On 10/31/14, 8:33, Robbie Wright via Af wrote:

 I wasn't involved in the move of the mailing list at all, but this was a
 needed thing. Since all of you should have SPF records on your domain,
 when the mailing list program attempted to send mail with your from
 address, it should have been picked up by spam filters because it was
 coming from the AMFUG server which most likely wasn't authorized in your
 SPF record. With the combination of SPF, DKIM, and now DMARC, mailing
 lists cannot (and shouldn't) fake people's from email address. How the
 team that did the move completed this is technically correct. The
 sender's name is great but you have to use the right domain.



 No, just no. Know the difference between the sender and the envelope
 sender.

 ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Mailing List Behavior

[Robbie Wright via Af]

Seth, you are correct, these message are not in dmarc alignment. And you
are also correct, SPF operates on the envelope sender and then dmarc
compares the envelope sender, the from addy in the header, and the dkim to
ensure all are in alignment. These messages are being sent from the
amazonses.com domain, hence why dkim passes as does spf beacuse Amazon has
all of those setup correctly. Amazon actually has some useful articles
http://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/latest/DeveloperGuide/spf.html. One, if
you are not authenticating any of your mail, like amfug, don't do anything
and Amazon will take care of it for you. They sign dkim for their own
domain and have an spf record. Google (and other mail servers and clients)
use dkim to figure out who is sending the mail, hence why Gmail delivers
the mail like this:


​
Gmail sees that it wants to come from the amfug.com domain but it is
actually coming from a different domain. To truly make the mail come from
amfug.com, they need to:

1.) Get an spf record that covers ses (there is currently no spf record on
amfug.com)
2.) Use manual dkim for ses
http://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/latest/DeveloperGuide/manual-dkim.html
through Amazon's api (which I believe is already being used for this list).
Right now Amazon's easy dkim is using their own domain and record. You
can have your own dkim key and use it for your own domain with ses. This
gets rid of the Gmail issue above, how Outlook displays On behalf of,
etc. Unfortunately, each mail client handles the display of these
differently.
3.) Setup a dmarc record with no action (no quarantine or reject). This
will start logging all of the mail delivery from some of the larger
providers and demonstrate where all of the mail is coming from. Once
confident all of the sending servers have been captured by at least SPF and
preferably dkim, they can turn on quarantine and then reject later on down
the line. dmarcian.com, dmarcanalyzer.com or return path all have online
tools to receive dmarc reports to and is a million times better than manage
the xml on your own.

All that said, opinions are like a-holes, everyone has them and they all
stink. Paul  co, thank you for taking this on and dealing with all the
heat for doing it. Change is never easy.



Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband http://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 On 10/31/14, 9:38, Robbie Wright via Af wrote:

 You're correct Seth, there is a difference between the envelope sender
 and the mail from address.In the case of DMARC, it requires that the
 envelope sender domain match that of the dkim domain and that of the
 mail from domain to achieve what they call alignment.

 I can't recall who did the move, but they chose option number 3a here:
 http://www.dmarc.org/faq.html#s_3

 I agree, not seeing the original sender's email addy isn't ideal. From a
 mail sending stand point, the list is doing it correct (in my opinion)
 but it does make it a little less usable.


 I can't really agree anything right is happening. Most glaringly,
 threading has been fubar'd to all hell and my AFMUG folder now looks like a
 post-apocalyptic wasteland of disarray. Maybe most aren't used to clients
 that do real threading or have separate Reply and Reply List functions,
 but I can't stand how this list now operates.

 The thing is that what it says about DMARC isn't happening here:

 DMARC introduces the concept of aligned identifiers. Briefly, it means
 the domain in the RFC5322.From header must match the domain in the d= tag
 in the DKIM signature for DKIM alignment, and/or match the domain in the
 RFC5321.MailFrom field for SPF alignment.

 Take ownership of the email message by changing the RFC5322.From address
 to one in the mailing list's domain, and adding a DKIM signature for that
 domain. Several variations are covered below.

 In the headers the DKIM signature has d=amazonses.com where From is 
 afmug.com. That doesn't look like what DMARC calls alignment to me.
 Since SPF historically operates on the envelope sender, not the from
 header, that's always worked before DMARC. However, tweaking an SPF
 implementation to start checking the From header would reject lots of
 things with an -all policy.


  And on a side note, next time I'm in Tahoe, I'd love to buy you a beer
 and talk about TahoeIX. I love the idea of smaller IX's like that and
 would love to see/hear what you guys are doing.



 Sure, I'd happy to give a tour of what's set up for the IX and go into the
 details. It's still quite small due to just being started in September, but
 it's pretty exciting.

 ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Pole fees and process ?

[Robbie Wright via Af]

All over the board depending on your locality unfortunately. Some cities
own the poles, some power companies own the poles, and other utilities own
the poles. Find the poles you want to go on, get their ID numbers off each
pole, and then contact each pole owner to get a contract. In our locality,
the power company owns 99% of the poles and they are pretty easy to work
with. Other states you'll have pole attach agreements with 4 companies,
each with different rules, different engineering specs, and different
prices. Make ready fees are what you'll get hit with, meaning the pole
owner will charge you if they have to improve the poles to take the
load/make room for your cable.

Some states will require you to be a CLEC, others won't. Some cities or
counties will require a franchise agreement, others won't.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband http://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:50 PM, TJ Trout via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 How do you go about placing aerial fiber on power poles and what is the
 normal fee structure? What license do you need or permits to be able to
 place aerial cable? Some type of franchise right? Any estimates on aerial
 fiber cost for labor,fees, materials etc?

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular Electricity Meter

[Robbie Wright via Af]

Unbelievable.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband http://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Criminoly!  They're putting public IPs on SmartMeters?!?  How clever is
 that?

 bp


 On 9/26/2014 4:31 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote:


 These are the new wireless meters El Paso Electric is deploying for
 commercial users.  Verizon is carrier and IP is right there

 Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack

[Robbie Wright via Af]

sudo apt-get clean  sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get upgrade  sudo
apt-get autoremove


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband http://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:

 Noob question but how can I easiest update my linux boxes to get the
 latest patches?

 -Ty

 On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

  Upgraded our systems at 6am yesterday for this. Also pulled the bash
 .deb out of debian-stable/security for our ubiquiti edgerouters. (I made
 on a post on the UBNT forum with the CVE info yesterday.)

 Side note: TONS of things are affected by this...

 Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
 SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
  On 09/25/2014 10:25 AM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote:

 PS.. This vulnerability can be exploited via HTTP/Apache attack vectors, so 
 you need to patch any vulnerable system running Apache.

 Peter Kranz
 Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltdwww.UnwiredLtd.com
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+pkranz=unwiredltd@afmug.com 
 af-bounces+pkranz=unwiredltd@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af
 Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 10:27 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection 
 attack

 Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack
 https://securityblog.redhat.com/2014/09/24/bash-specially-crafted-environment-variables-code-injection-attack/

Re: [AFMUG] cat5

[Robbie Wright via Af]

We use this stuff at all of our non-tower installs. Never has a single box
of it fail and have been using it for about 4 years in the field now.
Arguably don't need shielded for resi stuff, but we use cable clips to
attach cable to everything and this cable is a 1/4 of an inch thick which
fits the coax clips perfectly. Plus gives us flexibility with grounding.
Works great for us. They also make a white UV rated cable, albeit not
shielded or with a ground wire.

http://www.cabling-supplies.com/cat5e-350mhz-shielded-direct-burial-outdoor-cable-black.html


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband http://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Rex-List Account via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:

 And while we are at it, how about RJ45 ends, also.



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-bounces+xorex63list=gmail@afmug.com] *On Behalf
 Of *Rex-List Account via Af
 *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:21 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] cat5



 I am looking for a new source of cat5 cable. Who has the best price on
 quality cable?

 I stress that I am not looking for cheap. I want something that lasts.
 Install it once and forget about it.



 Thanks,

 Rex

Re: [AFMUG] cat5

[Robbie Wright via Af]

Yup, we had a few boxes of toughcable go bad and had to be replaced. We'll
never use it again.


Robbie Wright
Siuslaw Broadband http://siuslawbroadband.com
541-902-5101

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 If you go toughcable, make SURE the boxes havnt been sitting around for a
 while.  The last batch we bought to replace the bad batch ended up being
 another bad batch.  So we ended up replacing crap with crap and now have to
 replace it all again.  Evidently the boxes had sat in a warehouse forever
 or something.  It's all turning green already and water is seeping into the
 cables.

 On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I have had zero problems with the ubnt toughcable carrier ($180/box).
 They had their hands burned so thoroughly (presumably by a third party
 manufacturer in China) by the UV/cracking issue with the first generation
 toughcable, it's been resolved in everything shipping in the last 18
 months.

 Monoprice sells packs of 100 shielded RJ45 male for around ten bucks,
 they're good quality.

 On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Robbie Wright via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 We use this stuff at all of our non-tower installs. Never has a single
 box of it fail and have been using it for about 4 years in the field now.
 Arguably don't need shielded for resi stuff, but we use cable clips to
 attach cable to everything and this cable is a 1/4 of an inch thick which
 fits the coax clips perfectly. Plus gives us flexibility with grounding.
 Works great for us. They also make a white UV rated cable, albeit not
 shielded or with a ground wire.


 http://www.cabling-supplies.com/cat5e-350mhz-shielded-direct-burial-outdoor-cable-black.html


 Robbie Wright
 Siuslaw Broadband http://siuslawbroadband.com
 541-902-5101

 On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Rex-List Account via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 And while we are at it, how about RJ45 ends, also.



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-bounces+xorex63list=gmail@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Rex-List Account via Af
 *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:21 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] cat5



 I am looking for a new source of cat5 cable. Who has the best price on
 quality cable?

 I stress that I am not looking for cheap. I want something that lasts.
 Install it once and forget about it.



 Thanks,

 Rex