[AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS

[Tyson Burris]

Was just pondering the question...
Not sure I know the answer... so perhaps one of you do.

With all the CAF funding in play.  What is the highest any rural dsl customer 
can get if these providers are only upgrading the fiber and dslams?  Meaning... 
it's still crap copper to the house.  What can they actually push to the home 
without running fiber to it directly?

Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: 
www.surfici.net

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS

[Tyson Burris]

Old copper could make a return on those numbers.

Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: 
www.surfici.net

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

On Oct 27, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Chuck McCown 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

[Image result for vdsl speed vs distance]

From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:45 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS

Make that G.fast

[Image result for g.fast vdsl speed graph]

From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS

Well, don't presume it is "crap" copper.  Most telcos take pretty good care of 
their copper, most non RBOC telcos that is.
In any event if  the loops are short, like 2000 feet or less, 50 Mbps is 
doable.  More with V.FAST.

From: Tyson Burris
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:38 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org
Cc: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS

Was just pondering the question...
Not sure I know the answer... so perhaps one of you do.

With all the CAF funding in play.  What is the highest any rural dsl customer 
can get if these providers are only upgrading the fiber and dslams?  Meaning... 
it's still crap copper to the house.  What can they actually push to the home 
without running fiber to it directly?

Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: 
www.surfici.net

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

[AFMUG] ePMP FW 3.2.1

[Tyson Burris]

Hey guys...

Checking to see if anyone else sees watchdog resets or GPF errors on ePMP APs?



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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Sold TSLA, whats next?

[Tyson Burris]

UBNT earnings tomorrow.  Looks salty but I want to hear guidance.
Snap is a stupid IPO.  Shove money into Facebook or wait until twitter earnings 
tomorrow and see if the changes earn money.

GoPro is getting real interesting despite all the problems they have had.

I am watching NVDA, AMD, X, COP
MAY go short or long in UBNT AND TWTR
Disney is another I like but they need to dump ESPN

Looking for anything that has great potential and I can spend 100k+ on short 
term


Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: www.surfici.net

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On Feb 7, 2017, at 6:01 PM, Ken Hohhof 
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

At $53/barrel, I’m not sure it pays to extract that heavy Canadian crude oil.  
Depends on whether the field is already developed and how much processing is 
needed to extract it.  Not like Jed Clampett’s “bubbling crude” where you just 
scoop it up and sell it and buy a mansion in Beverly Hills.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 4:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Sold TSLA, whats next?

Assuming you could sell it at $50 per strand mile, would it be more profitable 
to transport oil or light?

The Keystone pipeline is 30" in diameter and 1744 miles long.  At 100% fill 
ratio thats 698 1" 864 ct ribbon fibers for a total of 603,072 fibers or 
1,051,757,568 strand miles.  We can't get 100% fill so lets just call it one 
billion strand miles.  Even if we discount and charge $25 per strand-mile, we 
could still walk away with 25B per month.

Phase III can do 700,000 bpd. I have no clue what one charges to transport oil, 
but lets call it 10%.  At $53 per barrel, thats 174M per month.

Fiber wins.

























On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Chuck McCown 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Probably make more money if we distributed beer to the home.  BTTH.

But what kind of beer.  I guess we can stat mux the beer.  Have 24 brands in 
time sequence.  Your tap will have a buffer to extract your favorite brand at 
the same time.  What what kind of bandwidth we will have?  Does Shannon Hartley 
come into play?

From: Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Sold TSLA, whats next?

So you're saying with your system I can get a Maple Syrup Tap in my house?  
STTH?
On 2/7/2017 3:50 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Maple Data Inc.

The sweetest internet on the planet!

From: Joe Novak
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Sold TSLA, whats next?

I'd venture to say you may be able to put a bunch of fiber in them and 
transport maple syrup.

I'd invest.

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Chuck McCown 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Hell no, I gonna stuff them full of fiber.

From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Sold TSLA, whats next?

Wait for them to build Trump’s 2 oil pipelines and discover Canadian shale oil 
is too expensive.  Buy the pipelines for cents on the dollar, and use them to 
transport maple syrup.  Even if there’s a spill, how bad can that be?


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 3:28 PM

To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Sold TSLA, whats next?

Hmmm, maybe I ought to create a fragrance...

I’ll call it “Allen Bradley”.  Fragrance for tech pros.

(reminiscent of the smell of burning resistors blended with the scent of pizza)

I’m gonna be rich!

From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Sold TSLA, whats next?

I also read their biggest money maker now is not the books, or streaming, or 
any other crap they sell in their store.
It's AWS.  Which started out as a side thing they were doing.

It's like if an ISP started selling books on the side, and the book business 
took off better than the ISP.


-- Original Message --
From: "Travis Johnson" mailto:t...@ida.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 2/7/2017 4:10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Sold TSLA, whats next?

Didn't it only take Amazon 15+ years to become profitable?? LOL

Travis
On 2/7/2017 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
They have a statement in their prospectus that they may never achieve 
profitability.

From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 1:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Sold TSLA, whats next?

Anybody waiting for the Snap, Inc. IPO?

On Feb 7, 2017 11:17 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
TOGS 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Sold TSLA, whats next?

[Tyson Burris]

Just short them when they get salty.
Ride it up or ride it down or both 😉

Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

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On Feb 8, 2017, at 8:22 PM, Gino Villarini 
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:

Too late for FB now… that was a 2012/2013 investment , similar with UBNT, 
bought both cheap

SNAP is not stupid imho, they are going to be a camera company.. Not a 
messaging co

Crossing my fingers on twtr… im loosing on that one

From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Ty 
Inc mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 8:50 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Sold TSLA, whats next?

UBNT earnings tomorrow.  Looks salty but I want to hear guidance.
Snap is a stupid IPO.  Shove money into Facebook or wait until twitter earnings 
tomorrow and see if the changes earn money.

GoPro is getting real interesting despite all the problems they have had.

I am watching NVDA, AMD, X, COP
MAY go short or long in UBNT AND TWTR
Disney is another I like but they need to dump ESPN

Looking for anything that has great potential and I can spend 100k+ on short 
term


Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: www.surfici.net

VIA WIRELESS




Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



On Feb 7, 2017, at 6:01 PM, Ken Hohhof 
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

At $53/barrel, I’m not sure it pays to extract that heavy Canadian crude oil.  
Depends on whether the field is already developed and how much processing is 
needed to extract it.  Not like Jed Clampett’s “bubbling crude” where you just 
scoop it up and sell it and buy a mansion in Beverly Hills.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 4:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Sold TSLA, whats next?

Assuming you could sell it at $50 per strand mile, would it be more profitable 
to transport oil or light?

The Keystone pipeline is 30" in diameter and 1744 miles long.  At 100% fill 
ratio thats 698 1" 864 ct ribbon fibers for a total of 603,072 fibers or 
1,051,757,568 strand miles.  We can't get 100% fill so lets just call it one 
billion strand miles.  Even if we discount and charge $25 per strand-mile, we 
could still walk away with 25B per month.

Phase III can do 700,000 bpd. I have no clue what one charges to transport oil, 
but lets call it 10%.  At $53 per barrel, thats 174M per month.

Fiber wins.

























On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Chuck McCown 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Probably make more money if we distributed beer to the home.  BTTH.

But what kind of beer.  I guess we can stat mux the beer.  Have 24 brands in 
time sequence.  Your tap will have a buffer to extract your favorite brand at 
the same time.  What what kind of bandwidth we will have?  Does Shannon Hartley 
come into play?

From: Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:55 PM
To:af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Sold TSLA, whats next?

So you're saying with your system I can get a Maple Syrup Tap in my house?  
STTH?
On 2/7/2017 3:50 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Maple Data Inc.

The sweetest internet on the planet!

From: Joe Novak
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:49 PM
To:af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Sold TSLA, whats next?

I'd venture to say you may be able to put a bunch of fiber in them and 
transport maple syrup.

I'd invest.

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Chuck McCown 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Hell no, I gonna stuff them full of fiber.

From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:43 PM
To:af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Sold TSLA, whats next?

Wait for them to build Trump’s 2 oil pipelines and discover Canadian shale oil 
is too expensive.  Buy the pipelines for cents on the dollar, and use them to 
transport maple syrup.  Even if there’s a spill, how bad can that be?


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 3:28 PM

To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Sold TSLA, whats next?

Hmmm, maybe I ought to create a fragrance...

I’ll call it “Allen Bradley”.  Fragrance for tech pros.

(reminiscent of the smell of burning resistors blended with the scent of pizza)

I’m gonna be rich!

From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:24 PM
To:af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Sold TSLA, whats next

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying or Selling UBNT stock

[Tyson Burris]

This stock is still in an uptrend.  With that said, the direction of the 
markets will play a big factor.
Had you bought at $27-$28 when I was screaming double down, you would have made 
a lot of money by now.

Time to take some off no?

Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
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Franklin, IN 46131

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 5:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying or Selling UBNT stock


oh! oh!  good questions

- Original Message -
From: Ken Hohhof<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying or Selling UBNT stock

A couple questions:

1)  How would a trade war with China affect UBNT?
2)  How risk averse are you?


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 3:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Buying or Selling UBNT stock

So what is the verdict gentleman?  Has it peaked?

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Re: [AFMUG] epmp vs 450 comparison

[Tyson Burris]

Completely different products.  The 450i series is faster and proprietary.  
(more carrier grade)
We use both.  I can say we are slowly migrating our ePMP gear out, just like we 
did UBNT.   I see us having all 3.65 AP’s and 11Ghz BH’s someday with a little 
5Ghz in the mix.

With the exception of a few areas, I classify our coverage area as high noise 
environments.  The 450 gear dances far better vs the ePMP.

My only complaint…. SMs with lower modulation should not drag the AP capacity 
down like it does.  I prefer a trigger that prevents this.

The ePMP, for us, has been a trouble maker.  DFS events, crappy firmware at 
times,  onsite reboots, the old cold issues, not good in high noise 
environments.  I am sure it is an inexpensive win for Cambium, but I want 
carrier grade products that we can hang and forget.




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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 12:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] epmp vs 450 comparison

if im running 75/25, epmp is roughly 87mb capacity, 450 93mb capacity
is this correct?

are efficiencies batter on 450 if installation is the same? ie, if I forlifted 
one AP with 17 epmps to 450, where would my gains be assuming everything stays 
installed in the same spot. Its not like the FCC gives 450 any more power than 
epmp, so path loss should be the same.
Im looking at this epmp 1000 sector thats running overall about 64-7% efficient 
with 17 subscribers and wondering what the gain is to move to 450 (exclude 
medusa, as its not field proven)

--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

[AFMUG] Old FSK Gear 4 Sale

[Tyson Burris]

Cleaning out the old gear.  Hit me up if you need them:
$15 each and tested with final FW:

 7  900Mhz Sm's
15  2.4Ghz Sm's
10  5.7GHZ Sm's

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Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

[Tyson Burris]

Hmm, that site is wrong for our prices and speeds.

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 3:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

Even Google Fiber does it wrong.


https://broadbandnow.com/Google-Fiber


-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
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From: "Mike Hammett" mailto:af...@ics-il.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 8:36:02 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477
On your Federal Communications Commission Form 477, make sure your stated 
coverage is at least somewhat representative of what you actually cover. In 
doing some market research, I keep finding ISPs (not just WISPs) obviously 
based out of one or two towns in one state, but have claimed some census blocks 
in other states. This seems very much so an error in the filing and not an 
expansion network.


-
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Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

[Tyson Burris]

I will hit them up


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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 3:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

They're quite receptive to updates. I don't think they'll accept anything under 
10 megs, though, unless it's your highest plan.


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From: "Tyson Burris" mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 2:52:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477
Hmm, that site is wrong for our prices and speeds.

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Internet Communications Inc.
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 3:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

Even Google Fiber does it wrong.


https://broadbandnow.com/Google-Fiber


-
Mike Hammett
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<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

From: "Mike Hammett" mailto:af...@ics-il.net>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 8:36:02 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477
On your Federal Communications Commission Form 477, make sure your stated 
coverage is at least somewhat representative of what you actually cover. In 
doing some market research, I keep finding ISPs (not just WISPs) obviously 
based out of one or two towns in one state, but have claimed some census blocks 
in other states. This seems very much so an error in the filing and not an 
expansion network.


-
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Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

[Tyson Burris]

I sent a private message about ten days ago letting you know we can send Luke 
down for a week. (if needed)

In terms of the show, I never did hear member numbers...only the number 
attending.
I want to know membership numbers.

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Internet Communications Inc.
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 3:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I can take asome help in! And I need it!

Problem is housing! All hotels are booked by FEMA/FEDS ...



From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of 
Andreas Wiatowski mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I put our name in with Brian Webster, myself and a couple climbers...have not 
heard anything as of yet.

I could not imagine the stress.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
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From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of 
"ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>" 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 2:53 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

I was just going to ask if Gino was receiving freight  yet.
And is there anything we need to send or do to help.

Pretty helpless sitting here with no boots on the ground.




Gino A. Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


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From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wispapalooza - where's the beef?

Hi Gino,

Carbon fibre towers - Around 6k for 100ft.  Expected inventory after December.  
Guy and self support upwards to 300ft.  I found this pretty cool...and if they 
get  small enough lattice...say 9"..then client towers for a UE at inexpensive 
pricepoint is pretty neat. The nice thing is less builing expense... could 
stack a tower without a crane or gin pole.

Cambium is making a 60Ghz PTMP system.  Probably be ready for next 
Wispapalooza...

Otherwise, I agree, nothing knocked my socks off...

BTW - Bicom was there..finally.

Did you get your gear yet?

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
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From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Gino 
Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, October 13, 2017 at 9:4

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[Tyson Burris]

Do yourself a favor.  Order that 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT DEMON and don’t 
worry about fuel costs.



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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 11:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

Just got an email saying my model 3 shipment is delayed again.

Regards,
Chuck

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.  250 for certain.

Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 Sessions and Reg Counts

[Tyson Burris]

IF you have this many subs with issues, you have a faulty AP or water in the 
connector, or a GPS issue.
That’s been my experience when the entire AP VC’s shows rereg issues.

Regardless, try moving to the last FW released to be safe or change channels.



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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 12:45 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 Sessions and Reg Counts

Are you seriously still running 11.2 or 12.1? What version is the AP on? There 
was a timing bug for a very long time that was fixed with the final 13.4.1 
release. There *is* a difference between power port and timing port sync prior 
to 13.4.1.

The difference between a reg and a re-reg is very simple. A reg is when the 
session is new or idle. A re-reg means the AP hasn't torn down that session, 
but sees a registration attempt. That's often the case when the VC isn't very 
active, so the AP just kinda assumes it's still there. Or the SM doesn't see 
enough beacons and assumes it's out of session. Bursty interference, 
multi-path, etc.

Also, what h/w is the AP? P9's didn't have the best RF performance and 
calibration could be an issue. Been through that a dozen times. As we pull down 
900 APs, any P9's get compared to a known-good P9 and a P10 AP using 60dB pad. 
If the uplink and downlink power and jitter levels aren't sane, they go right 
in the recycle bin.
On 11/10/2017 11:05 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
What do you think the problem here is?  We had to replace a PMP 100 900 MHz 
access point earlier in the week and now the Session and Reg counts seem very 
high but there are no (zero) Re-Regs on any of the clients.  I could blame it 
on interference or timing but the zero Re-Regs confuses me.  The AP uptime when 
I took this information was 26 hours and we're using Packeflux timing.  We are 
also using a new Sync Injector but a used Sync Pipe.

LUID: 002 - [0a-00-3e-93-07-8c] State: IN SESSION (Encrypt Disabled)
  Site Name: , Darlene
  Software Version: CANOPY 12.1
  FPGA Version: 111010 (DES, Sched, US/ETSI) P10
  Session Timeout: 0, AirDelay: 70200 ns, 234 bits (approximately 6.534 
miles (34503 feet))
  Session Count: 295, Reg Count: 295, Re-Reg Count: 0, Session Uptime: 
02:41:03

LUID: 003 - [0a-00-3e-93-61-03] State: IN SESSION (Encrypt Disabled)
  Site Name: , Scottie
  Software Version: CANOPY 12.1
  FPGA Version: 111010 (DES, Sched, US/ETSI) P10
  Session Timeout: 0, AirDelay: 3300 ns, 11 bits (approximately 0.307 miles 
(1621 feet))
  Session Count: 43, Reg Count: 43, Re-Reg Count: 0, Session Uptime: 
03:19:04
  Jitter (Avg/Last): 8/9   Power Level (Avg/Last): -56/-56

  Rate: VC 19 Rate 2X/2X
LUID: 004 - [0a-00-3e-92-47-84] State: IN SESSION (Encrypt Disabled)
  Site Name: , Jeff
  Software Version: CANOPY 12.1
  FPGA Version: 101410 (DES, Sched, US/ETSI) P9
  Session Timeout: 0, AirDelay: 28500 ns, 95 bits (approximately 2.652 
miles (14007 feet))
  Session Count: 252, Reg Count: 252, Re-Reg Count: 0, Session Uptime: 
02:45:22

LUID: 005 - [0a-00-3e-91-9f-9b] State: IN SESSION (Encrypt Disabled)
  Site Name: , Joseph
  Software Version: CANOPY 12.1
  FPGA Version: 101410 (DES, Sched, US/ETSI) P9
  Session Timeout: 0, AirDelay: 9300 ns, 31 bits (approximately 0.865 miles 
(4570 feet))
  Session Count: 41, Reg Count: 41, Re-Reg Count: 0, Session Uptime: 
03:18:41

LUID: 006 - [0a-00-3e-93-08-16] State: IN SESSION (Encrypt Disabled)
  Site Name: , Steve
  Software Version: CANOPY 12.1
  FPGA Version: 111010 (DES, Sched, US/ETSI) P10
  Session Timeout: 0, AirDelay: 20100 ns, 67 bits (approximately 1.871 
miles (9879 feet))
  Session Count: 328, Reg Count: 328, Re-Reg Count: 0, Session Uptime: 
02:43:56

LUID: 007 - [0a-00-3e-93-61-8d] State: IN SESSION (Encrypt Disabled)
  Site Name: , Ben
  Software Version: CANOPY 11.2
  FPGA Version: 111010 (DES, Sched, US/ETSI) P10
  Session Timeout: 0, AirDelay: 81900 ns, 273 bits (approximately 7.623 
miles (40253 feet))
  Session Count: 382, Reg Count: 382, Re-Reg Count: 0, Session Uptime: 
02:37:09

LUID: 008 - [0a-00-3e-94-e5-39] State: IN SESSION (Encrypt Disabled)
  Site Name: , Regina
  Software Version: CANOPY 12.1
  FPGA Version: 11

[AFMUG] 450m power

[Tyson Burris]

Good morning,

Looking for an all in one, but reliable, power source for 4 - 450m aps per 
tower.

I have heard netonix a few times but I have also heard about some issues with 
these devices and their support not being that great.

Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] 450m power

[Tyson Burris]

Yes, it would be nice Forrest but I know you don’t have anything.
I have reserved myself to a CMM5 at this point but not happy about it.

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
Account)
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 6:55 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] 450m power

I have a preference for a switch that works.

My challenge has always been to find a chipset I trust which is fairly easy to 
integrate, is obtainable, and is available in industrial temperature range.   
Over the years I've looked at numerous chipsets and have never found any that I 
would feel comfortable to provide to my customers.

The industrial temperature range issue was probably the biggest one since the 
vast majority of chipsets are only available in commercial range and I refuse 
to ship a product which contains chipset only rated down to freezing (there's a 
reason why we've never had any temperature related failures that we can 
recall).   Of the remaining chipsets, many of the manufacturers only sell to 
large-volume consumers.  They have no interest in doing business with an 
organization which doesn't do a million units of a product.

Well the never part was true until recently.   A trusted vendor of mine 
recently released a switch chipset with 5 Gigabit copper ports, 1 GBIC port, 
and 1 management port, and which seems to be able to be integrated well.   I 
need to spend some time with the eval board which is sitting here, but other 
things have taken priority.

Over the last couple of months, we've pretty much finished all of the pending 
projects, and so I'm working on figuring out which of the partially started 
projects around here I need to pick up and run with.   There are some which are 
minimal work which will likely get done soon (i.e. producing medusa-compatible 
cambium sync products in various other form factors, and finishing a couple of 
i/o board which are basically done).

Of the rest, part of what I'm going to be listening to at WISPAMERICA is what 
people are needing.  I really don't want to build things people don't want, so 
I'm going to be listening as to what people are looking for.   I've got lots of 
ideas, just not sure how many of them are really of interest.



On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 12:52 AM, TJ Trout 
mailto:t...@voltbb.com>> wrote:
Forrest,

It would be awesome if you could ever develop products with switches inside, I 
know you have a (Cisco?) preference but other's dont.

I would have purchased lots. I hate that I have to use a separate switch so we 
moved away from packetflux for new deployments.

TJ

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote:
I'm assuming you mean includes switch+poe.

I'm in the process of working on something specificaly for the 450i/450m with 5 
ports and sync hardware all in one box (+1 SFP port), mainly designed for tower 
top mounting.   Not far enough along to say when it will ship, or even if it's 
ever going to see the light of day.
Any other solution you look at, you should make sure that whatever solution you 
find will support at least 70W per port, and all 4 pairs.  Neither the 450i or 
450m really care about polarity, unless you're doing sync, and then only on the 
450i since the 450m does the new cambium sync only.
If you can live with separate poe box, of course the packetflux 
powerinjector+sync powers 450m's really well.  There will be a version which 
does medusa sync out sometime soon, it's a sure thing, just we don't know 
timing yet.

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 5:07 AM, Tyson Burris 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>> wrote:
Good morning,

Looking for an all in one, but reliable, power source for 4 - 450m aps per 
tower.

I have heard netonix a few times but I have also heard about some issues with 
these devices and their support not being that great.

Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr. 
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Re: [AFMUG] Ot: Dow futures

[Tyson Burris]

Closing in on support levels.

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 10:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Ot: Dow futures


Down another 1000...
Hold on tight !

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

[AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages

[Tyson Burris]

Just sitting here thinking about raises...

For those of you with employees, care to share what you pay for:

Office support staff-
Field installers / repair tech -
Tower tech -



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Re: [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages

[Tyson Burris]

I give out raises and bonuses here.  Try to keep good people around and let 
others go who fail.

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages

You may want to consider bonuses.  Instead of giving a Hourly Rate increase we 
started giving a successful install bonus.
Each installer gets a bonus for his successful installs.  Must be to our 
specifications.
Front office gets a bonus based on all successful installs per week.
Bonuses are paid two weeks after the install, this gives time to check specs 
and ensure no complaints.

All staff know that if the company was to shrink (hope not), bonuses could be 
reduced or go away.

Adam

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:48 AM
To: memb...@wispa.org<mailto:memb...@wispa.org>; 
af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages

Just sitting here thinking about raises...

For those of you with employees, care to share what you pay for:

Office support staff-
Field installers / repair tech -
Tower tech -



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Re: [AFMUG] Does this CenturyLink box need AC power in ROW?

[Tyson Burris]

This is similar to what they put up in our area.  However, most of the ones I 
have seen, they had to go back and have power and meters put in next to it.  
This delayed the promised delivery dates.
The Phase 1 funding project was supposed to be done back in March.  Only loss 
one customer to it.

The CenturyLink field tech told them it was government funded fiber to the 
home.  Obviously that was lie.  Same old land line up to the house.  Not sure 
what speed he got.

I see they are handing out .54 per share dividends now.  Must be some 
government money moved around on the books.  What would they ever do without 
that constant taxpayer funding?

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Franklin, IN 46131

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 1:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does this centurylink box need AC power in ROW?

Highly dependent on wiring condition and other factors in addition to loop 
length. In a condo or apartment building (g.fast DSLAM install in basement), 
POTS wiring from 1990 will be quite different from a building constructed in 
1962.



On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 10:41 AM, Chuck McCown 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Distance Performance target
<328' 500–1000 Mbit/s
328' 500 Mbit/s
656' 200 Mbit/s
820' 150 Mbit/s
1640'  100 Mbit/s[18]


From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does this centurylink box need AC power in ROW?

Something like a gig at 400 feet.
Google g.fast
https://aem-dev.calix.com/solutions/g-fast.html

From: Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does this centurylink box need AC power in ROW?

what kind of speed can they got on DSL and at what distances from this box?

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Jason McKemie 
mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> 
wrote:
Thanks, I just requested a quote - I'm a bit scared of what I'm going to get 
back though.


On Tuesday, May 30, 2017, Carlos Alcantar 
mailto:car...@race.com>> wrote:


they do have an all outdoor gpon unit, the e3-2.  Strand mount / wall mount.



https://www.calix.com/systems/e-series/e3-2-intelligent-pon-node.html













Carlos Alcantar

Race Communications / Race Team Member

1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / 
car...@race.com<mailto:car...@race.com> / http://www.race.com




From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Jason 
McKemie 
mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:48:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does this centurylink box need AC power in ROW?

Does Calix have an all-outdoor GPON unit like this?

On Friday, May 26, 2017, Robert Haas 
mailto:rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com>> wrote:


A little late – but that appears to be a calix e3-48.

These can be line powered from remote and do not require AC power on site. We 
have about ~60 of the e3-12c and 4 of the e3-48’s deployed. All line powered 
from the office using 3-6 pair and 360vdc. (+180, -180)





From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Does this centurylink box need AC power in ROW?












Centurylink just installed a couple of these in an area I am providing service 
in. There is no Electrical power from the power company in the area feeding 
these boxes. Just wondering if they are coming back to hook that up later or 
are these things pulling power from copper phone lines already in the area? The 
pulled some fiber into these boxes as well/

Re: [AFMUG] Does this CenturyLink box need AC power in ROW?

[Tyson Burris]

Somehow, the whole notation of a bottle neck in a network goes out the door 
with the word fiber.


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Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

Daytime # 317-738-0320
Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 3:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does this CenturyLink box need AC power in ROW?

Fiber to the node, curb, prem, home. tomatoe to-mah-tow.  Customer hears 
“fiber” and gets excited.

From: Tyson Burris
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 1:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does this CenturyLink box need AC power in ROW?

This is similar to what they put up in our area.  However, most of the ones I 
have seen, they had to go back and have power and meters put in next to it.  
This delayed the promised delivery dates.
The Phase 1 funding project was supposed to be done back in March.  Only loss 
one customer to it.

The CenturyLink field tech told them it was government funded fiber to the 
home.  Obviously that was lie.  Same old land line up to the house.  Not sure 
what speed he got.

I see they are handing out .54 per share dividends now.  Must be some 
government money moved around on the books.  What would they ever do without 
that constant taxpayer funding?

Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

Daytime # 317-738-0320
Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540
Online: www.surfici.net

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 1:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does this centurylink box need AC power in ROW?

Highly dependent on wiring condition and other factors in addition to loop 
length. In a condo or apartment building (g.fast DSLAM install in basement), 
POTS wiring from 1990 will be quite different from a building constructed in 
1962.



On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 10:41 AM, Chuck McCown 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Distance Performance target
<328' 500–1000 Mbit/s
328' 500 Mbit/s
656' 200 Mbit/s
820' 150 Mbit/s
1640'  100 Mbit/s[18]


From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does this centurylink box need AC power in ROW?

Something like a gig at 400 feet.
Google g.fast
https://aem-dev.calix.com/solutions/g-fast.html

From: Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does this centurylink box need AC power in ROW?

what kind of speed can they got on DSL and at what distances from this box?

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Jason McKemie 
mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> 
wrote:
Thanks, I just requested a quote - I'm a bit scared of what I'm going to get 
back though.


On Tuesday, May 30, 2017, Carlos Alcantar 
mailto:car...@race.com>> wrote:


they do have an all outdoor gpon unit, the e3-2.  Strand mount / wall mount.



https://www.calix.com/systems/e-series/e3-2-intelligent-pon-node.html













Carlos Alcantar

Race Communications / Race Team Member

1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / 
car...@race.com<mailto:car...@race.com> / http://www.race.com




From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Jason 
McKemie 
mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:48:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does this centurylink box need AC power in ROW?

Does Calix have an all-outdoor GPON unit like this?

On Friday, May 26, 2017, Robert Haas 
mailto:rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com>> wrote:


A little late – but that appears to be a calix e3-48.

These can be line powered from remote and do not require AC power on site. We 
have about ~60 of the e3-12c and 4 of the e3-48’s deployed. All line powered 
from the office using 3-6 pair and 360vdc. (+180, -180)





From: Af [ma

[AFMUG] Used & New WISP Gear For Sale....Need some shelf space!

[Tyson Burris]

I have the following to clear out...
Send me a message (off list) if you are need any.

Don't like the price?  Make a 'reasonable' offer.
Shipping NOT included.


FSK Canopy SM's:
All flavors - 2400, 5700 and 900:  $5  EACH

Last Mile Gear Cyclone:
Qty 2- 180 Degree 2450 AP:  $100 Each
Qty 2- 120 Degree 5750 AP:   $100 Each
Qty 1- (Connectorized) 900 MHz AP:  $50


Packet flux Sync Injectors:
PTP/PTMP Sync Injector 100 w/PS:  $30 Each
PMP 320/430 Syn Injector w/PS: $30 Each

KP Performance:
Brand New J-ARMS:  $5 Each

Cambium:
Brand New 10Mb 5792 SM (connectorized):  $70 Each
Used 430 AP's (connectorized): $50 Each





Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

Daytime # 317-738-0320
Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540
Online: www.surfici.net

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Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Remember the CTI product that never found it's way?

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

 



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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyler Treat
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?

 

I think everyone assumed epmp = further refined MemoryLink...  At least
initially.  

___

Mangled by my iPhone.

___

 

Tyler Treat

Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. 

 

tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com <mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> 

___

 


On Jan 21, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com> > wrote:

You can put that rumor to rest because it's not true. 

 

From: Af [ <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On
Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:30 PM
To:  <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com; Jason McKemie
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?

 

That's a rumor I have heard as well.

On January 21, 2015 2:27:58 PM AKST, Jason McKemie
mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> wrote:

It's probably because they didn't originally design ePMP, just purchased it
off of someone else (possibly Memorylink?)

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I can only see two logical reasons that they didn't do that - either it's
significantly cheaper to build an antenna in the ePMP form factor, or they
purposely didn't want them to work too well with Canopy accessories...
presumably to encourage people to upgrade FSK networks to 450 instead.

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

So you mean epmp guts put into the case they used for FSK, 430 and 450?
That would make way too much sense, though...




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote:

Sorry, epmp unit with SM like features (bracket and patch)

 

 

 

Gino A. Villarini

President

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

 <http://www.aeronetpr.com> www.aeronetpr.com   

@aeronetpr

 

 

 

From: Josh Luthman < <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
Reply-To: " <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com" < <mailto:af@afmug.com>
af@afmug.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 7:13 PM
To: " <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com" < <mailto:af@afmug.com>
af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?

 

What do you mean put in "epmp like unit"?




 

Josh Luthman
Office:   937-552-2340
Direct:   937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Gino Villarini < <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>
g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:

Josh, you are missing the whole point. I know this, but that combo dosnt
yield good gain. maybe 15-16db total gain at best. also you need special
adapters for it to work.

 

We need a direct replacement, remove SM, put Epmp like unit

 

 

 

Gino A. Villarini

President

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

 <http://www.aeronetpr.com> www.aeronetpr.com   

@aeronetpr

 

 

 

From: Josh Luthman < <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
Reply-To: " <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com" < <mailto:af@afmug.com>
af@afmug.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 7:00 PM
To: " <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com" < <mailto:af@afmug.com>
af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?

 

Dude you can use the 27rd or KP reflectors with EPMP.  I believe the force
110 is better gain though.

Josh Luthman
Office:   937-552-2340
Direct:   937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 21, 2015 5:12 PM, "Gino Villarini" < <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>
g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:

no



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 <http://www.aeronetpr.com> www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr






On 1/21/15, 3:00 PM, "John Woodfield" < <

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Gino,

 

I know you have a mixed bag, what are you doing more of ... ePMP or 450?

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

 



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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?

 

Not really.  More like  a bracket that fits in a SM placeholder, that takes
a conn. Epmp and adds a patch to properly illuminate any dish.  

 

 

 

Gino A. Villarini

President

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>

@aeronetpr

 

 

 

From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 7:19 PM
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?

 

So you mean epmp guts put into the case they used for FSK, 430 and 450?
That would make way too much sense, though...




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote:

Sorry, epmp unit with SM like features (bracket and patch)

 

 

 

Gino A. Villarini

President

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>

@aeronetpr

 

 

 

From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 7:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?

 

What do you mean put in "epmp like unit"?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote:

Josh, you are missing the whole point. I know this, but that combo dosnt
yield good gain. maybe 15-16db total gain at best. also you need special
adapters for it to work.

 

We need a direct replacement, remove SM, put Epmp like unit

 

 

 

Gino A. Villarini

President

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>

@aeronetpr

 

 

 

From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 7:00 PM
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?

 

Dude you can use the 27rd or KP reflectors with EPMP.  I believe the force
110 is better gain though.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 21, 2015 5:12 PM, "Gino Villarini" mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote:

no



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> 
@aeronetpr






On 1/21/15, 3:00 PM, "John Woodfield" mailto:john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz> > wrote:

>Can't you use an epmp integrates on the 100 dish???
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 1:51 PM, Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote:
>>
>> So we are migrating some our Canopy 100 to epmpŠ primarily using the
>>Force110Š but I ponder, 99% of my PMP100 installs have dishesŠ
>>
>> Why cambium or anyone else has developed a simple bracket with a dual
>>pol patch so we can put a conn. Epmp there and just swap a Canopy SM
>>with this contraption
>>
>> My techs could do a swap in 5 minutes instead of 30-45 min
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> President
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> 
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Send us all the design papers. One of us will help you redesign it.

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

 



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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sriram Chaturvedi
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?

 

​Ha ha. Wow. I gotta share this rumor with the ePMP team. I bet they'll get a 
laugh out of it.  

 

  _  

From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > on behalf of 
Tyler Treat mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> 
>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter? 

 

Yep that fueled most of my assumption.  

___

Mangled by my iPhone.

___

 

Tyler Treat

Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. 

 

tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com <mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> 

___

 


On Jan 21, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Jason McKemie mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > wrote:

It's also a strange "coincidence" that CTI's ptmp offering that could 
supposedly sync with Canopy disappeared and shortly thereafter ePMP came on the 
scene...

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
mailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com> > wrote:

You can put that rumor to rest because it’s not true. 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> ; Jason McKemie
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?

 

That's a rumor I have heard as well.

On January 21, 2015 2:27:58 PM AKST, Jason McKemie 
mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > 
wrote:

It's probably because they didn't originally design ePMP, just purchased it off 
of someone else (possibly Memorylink?)

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I can only see two logical reasons that they didn't do that - either it's 
significantly cheaper to build an antenna in the ePMP form factor, or they 
purposely didn't want them to work too well with Canopy accessories... 
presumably to encourage people to upgrade FSK networks to 450 instead.

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

So you mean epmp guts put into the case they used for FSK, 430 and 450?  That 
would make way too much sense, though...




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote:

Sorry, epmp unit with SM like features (bracket and patch)

 

 

 

Gino A. Villarini

President

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>

@aeronetpr

 

 

 

From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 7:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?

 

What do you mean put in "epmp like unit"?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote:

Josh, you are missing the whole point… I know this, but that combo dosnt yield 
good gain… maybe 15-16db total gain at best… also you need special adapters for 
it to work.

 

We need a direct replacement, remove SM, put Epmp like unit

 

 

 

Gino A. Villarini

President

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>

@aeronetpr

 

 

 

From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 7:00 PM
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?

 

Dude you can use the 27rd or KP reflecto

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] the future of being an ISP

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

OK FINE!  Let it happen.  Tax every MoFo internet service out there to be fair. 
 Then take all your new tax money and split it evenly to ALL OF US!  Yep not 
going to happen either.  I guess it's time to hire Steve Coran to beat them for 
my share! 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:02 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> This posted on the facebook page of Athena Broadband of TN today:
>  
> Chairman Powell of the FCC plans to reclassify the Internet as a regulated 
> utility on Feb 26th. The chairman has confirmed in a house hearing today that 
> USF fees WILL apply to Internet service. The current USF collection rate is 
> 16.8% and adjusts automatically depending on how much money the government 
> spends. If the FCC does this everyone's bill is going up by at least 16.8%. 
> Be on the lookout as we may need your help again supporting our cause in DC 
> against these types of actions!
>  
>  
> Looks like i've confirmed most the points of this post:
>  
> *  Unless we REALLY make some noise, we are probably being reclassified as a 
> utility (title II).  Yuk
> *  Folks screaming on the radio tonight (talk radio) - internet bills go up 
> by 16.8%. 
>  
> Comments?  How do we break this to our customers?  When will it take effect?  
> How do we stop it?
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Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

Don't forget  those damn selfies you guys sent me! Crazy 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> 
> He's doing triathlons now. Judging by his FB, he seems to do one every other 
> day.
> 
> A lot more family time.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> From: "Ken Hohhof" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:08:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?
> 
> We regularly see posts from executives at Convergence, including at the time 
> ePMP was introduced, none of whom are Charles.
>  
> I think Charles returned to his home planet, and is now rooming with Elvis.
>  
>  
> From: Josh Luthman
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 8:42 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?
>  
> Maybe Charles was bought off to ward off a competitor?
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2015 9:35 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>> That's the exact scenario that I posed and was avoided.
>> 
>> CTI was definitely MemoryLink.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>> 
>> From: "Jason McKemie" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:22:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?
>> 
>> It's also a strange "coincidence" that CTI's ptmp offering that could 
>> supposedly sync with Canopy disappeared and shortly thereafter ePMP came on 
>> the scene...
>>  
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
>>>  wrote:
>>> You can put that rumor to rest because it’s not true.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:30 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com; Jason McKemie
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> That's a rumor I have heard as well.
>>> 
>>> On January 21, 2015 2:27:58 PM AKST, Jason McKemie 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's probably because they didn't originally design ePMP, just purchased it 
>>> off of someone else (possibly Memorylink?)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can only see two logical reasons that they didn't do that - either it's 
>>> significantly cheaper to build an antenna in the ePMP form factor, or they 
>>> purposely didn't want them to work too well with Canopy accessories... 
>>> presumably to encourage people to upgrade FSK networks to 450 instead.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Josh Luthman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So you mean epmp guts put into the case they used for FSK, 430 and 450?  
>>> That would make way too much sense, though...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry, epmp unit with SM like features (bracket and patch)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> 
>>> President
>>> 
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> 
>>> www.aeronetpr.com  
>>> 
>>> @aeronetpr
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Josh Luthman 
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 7:13 PM
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> What do you mean put in "epmp like unit"?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Josh, you are missing the whole point… I know this, but that combo dosnt 
>>> yield good gain… maybe 15-16db total gain at best… also you need special 
>>> adapters for it to work.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> We need a direct replacement, remove SM, put Epmp like unit
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> 
>>> President
>>> 
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> 
>>> www.aeronetpr.com  
>>> 
>>> @aeronetpr
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Josh Luthman 
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 7:00 PM
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy to Epmp migration path adapter?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Dude you can use the 27rd or KP reflectors with EPMP.  I believe the force 
>>> 110 is better gain though.
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2015 5:12 PM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> no
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> President
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>> @aeronetpr
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/21/15, 3:00 PM, "John Woodfi

[AFMUG] 450 Mounting Brackets

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Good morning,

 

Need some 450 Mounting brackets so we can attach the AP's to the standoff.

I am looking for ideas that will work with the KP Performance antennas.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] 450 Mounting Brackets

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Yep, thanks.  On the way now.

 

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From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: memb...@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] 450 Mounting Brackets

 

The MTI mount?  LMG has new ones.  I've got a box with the model if you can't 
find it.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Jan 22, 2015 10:42 AM, "Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc" 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Good morning,

 

Need some 450 Mounting brackets so we can attach the AP’s to the standoff.

I am looking for ideas that will work with the KP Performance antennas.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG quality going up! Buy buy buy!

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

+1 Chuck.  Longer pipe. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
> 
> How about larger pipes on the mounts?  Like a 2-3"?  Sector Frames?  
> 
> I know you do injection molding for your antennas, have you ever thought 
> about doing NEMA style boxes?
> 
> Just some ideas to throw around...
> 
> Regards,
> Chuck
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:14 PM,  wrote:
>> Thanks, wish I could take total credit.  The quality of the hot dip 
>> galvanize job is a bit out of our hands.  The amount of dross on the pot, 
>> temperature of the day, mix of zinc and other things as well as freshness of 
>> the pickling tank and pickling time all go into the quality of the 
>> galvanization and we farm that out to a local company.  We have been working 
>> on the fit and inspection. 
>>  
>> I appreciate the note, we do try.  And we are always up for making other hot 
>> dipped tower products.  Anyone want us to add to the product line, let me 
>> know and I will see if I can improve on the price or performance on any 
>> other product out in the world.  I prefer to do custom stuff nobody else 
>> does, but I am not above knocking off something if I can offer something in 
>> the way of design improvement or cost reduction. 
>>  
>> From: Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 1:25 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] WBMFG quality going up! Buy buy buy!
>>  
>> Props to WB for improving their MTOWs.  Most notably the cleaner galvanizing 
>> and the hardware fitting together perfectly.  Not a huge difference since 
>> these products have already been great, but the quality bonus is noticeable 
>> and appreciated!
>>  
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
> 

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Petition Circulating

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

Two questions: 

1.  IF passed will WISPs be able to apply and get money from the fund since 
they are excluded now?

2.  Do you expect this to pass?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 26, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Rick Harnish  wrote:
> 
> Save Small Internet Service 
> Providers
> 
> Petition by George 
> Fendler
> 
> To be delivered to Tom Wheeler, FCC Commissioner and President Barack Obama
> Stop the FCC from making small ISPs comply with Title II public utility rules.
> This is not Net Neutrality. It is a power grab to give the big phone/cable 
> providers a strong monopoly and saddle all American Internet customers with a 
> 16.8% tax.
> 
> George Fendler is a WISP from Central Coast Internet in Hollister, 
> California.  Click on the link above to support this petition and use social 
> media to broadcast it to your customers.
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
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> Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst
> 260-307-4000 cell
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[AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

1.   Is the 25Mbps classification immediate?

2.   What are you NOW going to call your previously determined
'broadband' service?

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

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> 
>  
> On 1/30/2015 1:17 PM, Glen Waldrop wrote:
> Doubtful. They can't sustain those speeds wide spread any better than we can.
>  
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: That One Guy
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
>  
> at those sustained speeds, the only tech that could realistically deliver to 
> the rural market right now would be satellite wouldnt it
>  
>  
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:46 PM, SmarterBroadband 
>  wrote:
> +1
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 12:21 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
>  
> Even if you don’t deliver 25Mbps as defined, can’t you just put a plan rate 
> for 25Mbps and give it some ridiculous price that no one will ever buy, then 
> claim broadband?
>  
> I mean the other lower plan rates wouldn’t be broadband, but your company 
> could be branded as selling broadband?
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris @ Internet 
> Communications Inc
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 12:40 PM
> To: memb...@wispa.org
> Cc: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
>  
> 1.   Is the 25Mbps classification immediate?
> 2.   What are you NOW going to call your previously determined 
> ‘broadband’ service?
>  
>  
> Tyson Burris, President 
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Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

No one on this List or the FCC will convince me that the telco needed this to 
get federal funds to help them with network builds.  THEY have PISSED AWAY all 
USF funds they keep getting.  How the hell do you think Century Link bought 
Embarq!

The USF FEE has been around since 1934 and added to in 1996.  All for the very 
purpose to support these idiots.  

I want everyone who voted for this rule fired and citizenship revoked!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 30, 2015, at 3:42 PM, Glen Waldrop  wrote:
> 
> According to 477, if I have a census area that only has 1Mbps customers, then 
> that area is labeled under served, correct?
> 
> Looks like the FCC just figured a way to hand their buddies grant money or 
> (dons tin foil hat) ultimately take over the Internet infrastructure.
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Bill Prince
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 2:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
> 
> I don't know if we can answer that question until we see how the rule is 
> worded if and when it actually becomes a rule.
> 
> bp
> 
> 
> On 1/30/2015 12:21 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
>> Even if you don�t deliver 25Mbps as defined, can�t you just put a plan 
>> rate for 25Mbps and give it some ridiculous price that no one will ever buy, 
>> then claim broadband?
>> �
>> I mean the other lower plan rates wouldn�t be broadband, but your company 
>> could be branded as selling  broadband?
>> �
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris @ Internet 
>> Communications Inc
>> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 12:40 PM
>> To: memb...@wispa.org
>> Cc: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
>> �
>> 1.������ Is the 25Mbps 
>> classification immediate?
>> 2.������ What are you NOW 
>> going to call your previously determined �broadband� service?
>> �
>> �
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>> 739 Commerce Dr. 
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[AFMUG] Net Neutrality - CNN front page

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/02/technology/net-neutrality-fcc/index.html

 

 

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[AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Employee Question:

 

How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart
phone usage?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Wisp America Updates?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

I did not attend the show.  However, I have spoken to others in attendance. 

It's my understanding that the Telrad product is worth looking at.  I was
also told the Venue was very nice.

 

What caught my attention though was several comments about the lack of
organization and support. This may not be a majority opinion but it came up
on several fronts.

I guess several vendors are a little upset and someone said the room blocks
aren't being charged right.

The word 'Drama' was also used. A reference was made about Trina.

 

With the loss of Rick, I feared this would happen.  The board should just
apologize and put him back in place.  I worry about Vegas this year. 

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 9:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Wisp America Updates?

 

Anybody find some cool, new stuff at Wisp America?

 

I had to stay behind and keep the wheels spinning.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Wisp America Updates?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Agreed.

 

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From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:58 AM
To: memb...@wispa.org
Cc: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] Wisp America Updates?

 

I predict things will get very hot when board election time comes. Lots of 
people will have lots of questions revolving around what happened at the end of 
2014. The rug will be peeled back to see what was swept under.



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From: "Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc" mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Cc: memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 9:20:30 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] Wisp America Updates?

I did not attend the show.  However, I have spoken to others in attendance. 

It’s my understanding that the Telrad product is worth looking at.  I was also 
told the Venue was very nice.

 

What caught my attention though was several comments about the lack of 
organization and support. This may not be a majority opinion but it came up on 
several fronts.

I guess several vendors are a little upset and someone said the room blocks 
aren’t being charged right.

The word ‘Drama’ was also used… A reference was made about Trina.

 

With the loss of Rick, I feared this would happen.  The board should just 
apologize and put him back in place.  I worry about Vegas this year. 

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 9:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] Wisp America Updates?

 

Anybody find some cool, new stuff at Wisp America?

 

I had to stay behind and keep the wheels spinning.

 

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658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 office

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[AFMUG] FCC Live Link

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Big show today.  Put your votes in and grab your favorite drink.

 

http://www.fcc.gov/live

 

 

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Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

 



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Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

That was over before it started.  

No changes tomorrow…. 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 1:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

 

will they be providing free stitches for the rectal tears?

 

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Sterling Jacobson mailto:sterl...@avative.net> > wrote:

You know what chairman? 

 

Just exempt everyone from this regulation except the top 10 including Comcast.

 

“Problem” solved.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of That One Guy
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

 

The interweb apparently has not been trucking along this far without a referree 
on the field.

 

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Glen Waldrop mailto:gwl...@cngwireless.net> > wrote:

We need to figure out a way for everyone to protest it rather than bend over.

 

Just another regulation to shut down the little guys. We're not big enough to 
pad their wallets and they don't want us to be big enough to become a thorn in 
their side.

 

Either greed and the "buddy system" or just another socialist push.

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sterling Jacobson <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>  

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:41 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

 

None of us need that parity, do we? I get along just fine without it.

 

And it comes with so many strings and fees that it will bomb many ISPs IMO.

 

I just heard that it does NOT exclude smaller size ISPs. 

 

Everyone get ready to file more paperwork, pay more taxes on gross profits, and 
adding more network protocols and tools to let the government in on our 
networks.

 

All bad.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

 

But, there is an opportunity for all of you to claim parity with the ILEC world 
if they do this.  

 

From: Glen Waldrop <mailto:gwl...@cngwireless.net>  

Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:34 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

 

I caught the end of Pai.

As O'Reilly said, they're skipping a bunch of stuff. Coverage isn't even 100% 
yet and they're already screwing it up with red tape.

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sterling Jacobson <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>  

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:31 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

 

Holy hell, that speech and position of Ajit Pai is my definite opinion. 

 

He’s my new hero.

 

Michael O’Rielly is also starting off strong against this Title II crap.

 

The strongest point I get from this is that the new law isn’t fully disclosed 
but being passed regardless and pushes special interest.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

 

This guy seems to be spot on so far as well.

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>  

To: Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:24 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

 

Installing rocket 
..keep it coming

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 26, 2015 10:17 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" mailto:sterl...@avative.net> > wrote:

Who’s the guy talking right now?

 

He is addressing the concerns of WISPs and small ISP directly.

 

I think he is definitely spot on.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Cc: memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> 
Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Live Link

 

Big show today.  Put your votes in and grab your favorite drink.

 

http://www.fcc.gov/live

 

 

Tyson Burris, Presid

Re: [AFMUG] Best price for att full gig?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Can you transport back to a datacenter?

Cogent offers 1Gb cheap.  $700-$900 is the going rate.

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 7:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Best price for att full gig?

 

What's the best price you guys have seen for a full gig with at&t?

Thanks in advance 

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Re: [AFMUG] Best price for att full gig?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

Yes. Agreed. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 28, 2015, at 11:21 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> 
> Though I wouldn't buy Cogent (or HE) for full routes. Cogent for customer 
> routes only and peer with HE.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> From: "Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 10:12:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best price for att full gig?
> 
> Can you transport back to a datacenter?
> Cogent offers 1Gb cheap.  $700-$900 is the going rate.
>  
>  
> Tyson Burris, President 
> Internet Communications Inc. 
> 739 Commerce Dr. 
> Franklin, IN 46131 
>   
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> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
> Online: www.surfici.net
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> To: af@afmug.com
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> What's the best price you guys have seen for a full gig with at&t?
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Re: [AFMUG] The ePMP experience...

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Mike Hammett is that you?  It sure looks like it.

 

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Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 9:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] The ePMP experience...

 

After using the ePMP platform this is what it makes me feel like... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq2NEY2ppiQ

 




 

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Wavelinc Communications

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 <http://www.wavelinc.com/> http://www.wavelinc.com

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Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Mike..

 

It’s more like a tantrum that somehow gets everyone involved.

:)

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 3:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG

 

When someone sucks and they're told they suck, they cry. When someone doesn't 
suck and they're told they suck, they prove they're not.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 

  _  

From: "Patrick Leary" mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 2:01:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG

I'm not tense at all. Chuck H. (not the Chuck Ms) is very tense though. I'm 
treading on thin ice over on the WISPA list, but it is the Telrad list.

 


Patrick Leary

M 727.501.3735 

 <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> 




 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG

 

Well, I got it...  but I am not so tense today.  

 

From: Paul McCall <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>  

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:46 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG

 

Yeah, I knew that… my attempt at levity, because the AFMUG list seems “tense” 
today :)

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG

 

Its tomorrow

 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

On Mar 4, 2015 2:40 PM, Paul McCall mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> 
> wrote:

OK, I’m connected.  It says “waiting for organizer”.

 

So, what do I do for the next 23 hours and 20 minutes?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG

 

 

dial in :)

 

- Original Message - 

From: Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>  

To: Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:34 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG

 

Damn.  I will be on tower if radio is bad or on drive back to El Paso on 
Thursday afternoon .  Next time

Jaime Solorza

On Mar 3, 2015 7:25 PM, "Patrick Leary" mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com> > wrote:

When: Thursday, March 05, 2015 2:00 PM-3:30 PM (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & 
Canada).

Where: via link below AND call in number

 

Note: The GMT offset above does not reflect daylight saving time adjustments.

 

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...If you dareHell, if I dare.  I have room for 100. No holds barred, but I 
warn you I'm an armed veteran and expert marksman.

 

Given time we'll even run through the LTE interference thing.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ack....here we go again

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Sweet Home Alabama.

Roll Tide Jay.  When is the next meeting.  I want to come.

 

Time to hit the Sea-N-Suds on a 95’ day.  

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
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From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 3:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: memb...@wispa.org; tel...@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA Members] ackhere we go again

 

 

the sun has come out and it's 74.  why am i sitting here?  its no longer foggy 
and gloomy like it was all morning.

need to go enjoy this four hours of sanity ; ice and snow returns tonight!!

 

(i kid you not)

 



- Original Message - 

From: CBB - Jay Fuller <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>  

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:43 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Welcome to the "Af" mailing list

 

 

well lookee here!

 

- Original Message - 

From: Rick Harnish <mailto:rharn...@fibertothefarm.com>  

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:27 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Welcome to the "Af" mailing list

 

Test, I'm back!


Respectively,

Rick Harnish
Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst
260-307-4000 cell
Skype: rick.harnish.​
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[AFMUG] For Sale: ePMP 4Pack Dishes C050900H007B

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Taking up space in the back room. We don't use them.

 

4 -  ePMP 4Pack Dishes C050900H007B - Brand New

 

$150 per pack plus shipping - Can ship today.

Off list only please!

 

 

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Internet Communications Inc. 
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Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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[AFMUG] ePMP FW 2.61 - Link Test

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Hey guys,

 

Tossing this out to see if others are seeing it or not.  

ALL our ePMP gear is now on FW 2.61.

 

The wireless link capacity testing between AP's and SM's in TDD mode seems
to be much less.  (Maybe 20-50%)

It doesn't seem to have any bearing on the actual throughput.  Speed tests
seem normal, but I plan on doing more tests.

 

Just something odd I noticed.

 

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[AFMUG] KP 3.65/5 Ghz Sectors

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Good afternoon,

 

If you have deployed the KP Performance 3.65/5Ghz Dual Sectors, I am curious
how they are working for you.

Also, if you are, did you have to modify any part of the equipment for
proper mounting/installations?  

 

To save tower space, I am considering deploying several but don't won't to
have performance problems.

 

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[AFMUG] New J-Arms and Used FSK Canopy Gear - I missed Friday

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

30 - Brand New J-Arms  

20 -  2.4 FSK Canopy SM's (Used)

20 - 5.7 FSK Canopy SM's (Used)

 

 

SM's $25 each any QTY

J-Arms $7 each any QTY

 

PLEASE off list only.  

 

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[AFMUG] SM Up Tilt Solution

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Does anyone have a 'non redneck solution' for giving SM's up tilt when
extremely close to an AP?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] SM Up Tilt Solution

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Employee is reporting 8/6 with a lag bolt under SM and 8/2 without any tilt.  
Yes it will connect but not optimal links.

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 3:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SM Up Tilt Solution

 

They probably don’t need it.  If they are very close, sidelobes will make the 
connection.  

 

 

From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 

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Subject: [AFMUG] SM Up Tilt Solution

 

Does anyone have a ‘non redneck solution’ for giving SM’s up tilt when 
extremely close to an AP?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] SM Up Tilt Solution

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Thanks guys,  we got a creative solution.

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 4:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SM Up Tilt Solution

 

mounting on what?  

hacksaw

some pieces of unistrut

 

all-thread rod, some washers and nuts



Have done the opposite for a PTP link that required extreme downtilt shooting 
from the roof of a 35 floor building to a low warehouse like building <500 
meters away.



 

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Does anyone have a ‘non redneck solution’ for giving SM’s up tilt when 
extremely close to an AP?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium RMA Form still broke?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Ray,

 

Just my two cents.

It seemed like two months from the RMA contact date until we got our
replacement 450 unit last time.  That is a long time.

I have another bad 450 AP radio that we are submitting this week.  IT sure
would be nice to have either advance replacement options or a faster turn
over time.

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ray Savich
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 3:16 PM
To: 'af@afmug.com' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium RMA Form still broke?

 

Hi Nate,

No need to yell.  We are here. Please contact me at
soluti...@cambiumnetworks.com <mailto:soluti...@cambiumnetworks.com>  any
time.

 

Ray

 

Join the Conversation

Cambium Networks Community Forum <http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/> 

 

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[AFMUG] PPPoE Reconnection issues on certain Cloud Core OS versions?

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Hey guys (and gals),

 

I am going to toss this on the public realm.  It's bugging me and can be a
support problem at times depending on the OS version.

 

We run PPPoE for our customers with CCR 1306 routers. (latest OS right now)

I have two issues that come up depending on what OS we load or don't load.
I am 

 

1.   Certain OS versions will not let PPPoE accounts auto reconnect when
the router is rebooted (the customer MUST power cycle router to reconnect).
Some versions will simply start dropping customers.  Finally some versions
work great and the PPPoE sessions auto reconnect after a core router reboot.

 

2.   The other issue we see sometimes, depending on OS version, is it
'seems' like the PPPoE customers are being throttled.  The radio burst
settings look good and the AP load is kept down.  Yet on certain versions
the PPPoE assigned speeds can suffer.

 

 

Does anyone else ever see this crap depending on the OS version. or is it a
hardware .. Or firmware issue that causes this?  IDK.

 

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] 450 frame utilization and performance issues

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Eric,

Thanks for bringing this up.  We recently started deploying about 30 450 AP's.  
Our testing in the field and with customers is producing the same EXACT problem 
you just reported.

More importantly, we see this problem on AP's with low SM's to high SM ranges 
(5-45).  Same firmware.

Let's compare some notes:

1. What antennas are you using?
2. What routers / OS are you using?
3. What sync source are you using? 

We see high frame uses even on the AP's with low SM's and great modulation 
rates.
I can understand if a large number of SM's have low modulation it will eat up 
frames, but the outcome is the same on low and high SM counts.



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-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 12:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 450 frame utilization and performance issues

We have a few 450 AP's with 30-40 subscribers and have been getting several 
slow speed complaints lately. I just chaulked it up to issues with the SM since 
the AP rarely got over 20mb/s downlink. We upgraded to 13.4 recently so we 
could watch our frame utilization. We started graphing it over night and as you 
can see, we are hitting 100% for sustained periods of time. During that time 
the AP is only doing approx. 23mb/s. This particular AP has 34 registered SM 
and the majority show 6x and 4x with 4 or 5 SM's at 2x and 1x. The performance 
is a major disappointment. Anyone else have similar experiences?

AP configuration: 20mhz channels, 2.5ms frame, 10 miles, 75% downlink,
3 contention slots.

Attached is a screenshot of the utilization and sector throughput calculator 
from the Capacity Planner R13.

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: movie review

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Halo 5 this week.

Call of Duty this week.

Bond Movie this week.

 

None of us will be working. 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 1:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Ot: movie review

 

 

At the new bond flick. Starts in 2 min.

I'll report in l8r. :)

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Spam:******, Re: 450 frame utilization and performance issues

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

In some cases (not all) just adding another AP and sector should resolve the 
issue.  

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-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 1:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Spam:**, Re: [AFMUG] 450 frame utilization and performance issues

If those 1X and 2X downlink SMs are even moderately active, that really throws 
a wrench into the sector performance. This is true on any PMP platform. We've 
seen our fair share of it. We've moved a couple back to FSK which is something 
I never, ever want to do, but it was unfortunately necessary.

On 11/6/2015 11:50 AM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
> We have a few 450 AP's with 30-40 subscribers and have been getting 
> several slow speed complaints lately. I just chaulked it up to issues 
> with the SM since the AP rarely got over 20mb/s downlink. We upgraded 
> to 13.4 recently so we could watch our frame utilization. We started 
> graphing it over night and as you can see, we are hitting 100% for 
> sustained periods of time. During that time the AP is only doing 
> approx. 23mb/s. This particular AP has 34 registered SM and the 
> majority show 6x and 4x with 4 or 5 SM's at 2x and 1x. The performance 
> is a major disappointment. Anyone else have similar experiences?
>
> AP configuration: 20mhz channels, 2.5ms frame, 10 miles, 75% downlink,
> 3 contention slots.
>
> Attached is a screenshot of the utilization and sector throughput 
> calculator from the Capacity Planner R13.



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Re: [AFMUG] 450 frame utilization and performance issues

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Ok.  So nothing sticks out as the same except the AP's and firmware.

We use:
KP Antennas Only
Mikrotik Routers
CTM and Sync Injectors

Still love our FSK stuff.  Just can't handle today's demands.  

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-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 2:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 frame utilization and performance issues

Tyson,
1. We are using Cambium stock 65* dualslant antennas.
2. Mix of routers. We have a BYOR (bring your own router) policy.
3. All AP's are sync'd with either CMM4 or CTM2.

Adam,
We will certainly focus more attention on those SM's that have poor modulation. 
It wouldn't surprise me if the most active SM's are the ones stuck at 1x or 2x.

George,
We have not considered downgrading. Our entire network has been upgraded to 
13.4. That over 500 SM's at this point. I'm a little nervous about downgrading.

The reality here is that upgrading a FSK sector to 450 gets us only a little 
over double the capacity. FSK aggregates around 13mb/s and around 27mb/s 
aggregate for the 450. This is quite disappointing. It appears that we must now 
be very selective over what SM's can register. A nearly impossible task in our 
situation. Use caution if you plan on ripping and replacing your old FSK. You 
will not yield the kind of throughput you'd expect.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
 wrote:
> Eric,
>
> Thanks for bringing this up.  We recently started deploying about 30 450 
> AP's.  Our testing in the field and with customers is producing the same 
> EXACT problem you just reported.
>
> More importantly, we see this problem on AP's with low SM's to high SM ranges 
> (5-45).  Same firmware.
>
> Let's compare some notes:
>
> 1. What antennas are you using?
> 2. What routers / OS are you using?
> 3. What sync source are you using?
>
> We see high frame uses even on the AP's with low SM's and great modulation 
> rates.
> I can understand if a large number of SM's have low modulation it will eat up 
> frames, but the outcome is the same on low and high SM counts.
>
>
>
> Tyson Burris, President
> Internet Communications Inc.
> 739 Commerce Dr.
> Franklin, IN 46131
>
> 317-738-0320 Daytime #
> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
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> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 12:51 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] 450 frame utilization and performance issues
>
> We have a few 450 AP's with 30-40 subscribers and have been getting several 
> slow speed complaints lately. I just chaulked it up to issues with the SM 
> since the AP rarely got over 20mb/s downlink. We upgraded to 13.4 recently so 
> we could watch our frame utilization. We started graphing it over night and 
> as you can see, we are hitting 100% for sustained periods of time. During 
> that time the AP is only doing approx. 23mb/s. This particular AP has 34 
> registered SM and the majority show 6x and 4x with 4 or 5 SM's at 2x and 1x. 
> The performance is a major disappointment. Anyone else have similar 
> experiences?
>
> AP configuration: 20mhz channels, 2.5ms frame, 10 miles, 75% downlink,
> 3 contention slots.
>
> Attached is a screenshot of the utilization and sector throughput calculator 
> from the Capacity Planner R13.
>


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[AFMUG] ePMP 2.51 and PPPOE

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Good morning,

 

Does the ePMP 2.51 have some quirks?  Seeing some high ping times with PPPoE
customers across small links we swapped out aging UBNT M5's.  

 

Just checking before we do some field testing.

 

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[AFMUG] Used WISP Gear / New Gear - Make offer off list.

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Cleaning up shelves again. making more room for 3.65 gear:

 

40- 2.4 Canopy SM's available - all used running 13.4 (Used)

10- 5.7 UBNT Rocket M5 Radio's - no dish / running 5.6 (Used)

3- 5.7/5.4 Canopy PTP 230 Links (complete)

4- Sixnet 9-Port Din rail switches (slx-9es-2sc)

 

35 KP Performance J-Arms - no dish (brand new)

2 Boxes ePMP dishes - no radios (brand new)

 

 

No reasonable offer refused.  Off list please.

 

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[AFMUG] 5 Wifi Extenders

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Any of you ever come across a house with this many extenders.  Sounds like
trouble lurking to me.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*****, Re: 5 Wifi Extenders

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

6000 sq.  I've never seen anything like it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> I never recommend them.
>  
> The only acceptable ‘extender’ scenario I’ve encountered was with Apple 
> router and extender, but the extender was wired back to the router.
>  
> Can’t see how a wirelessly connected extender is going to help much with 
> speed.
>  
> Maybe it’s antenna is better than the client antenna and can get better 
> signal to the router, but then traffic is using two channels, or half duplex 
> or something to extend wirelessly. Not sure there is much gained.
>  
> It is always better in my opinion to centralize the existing router, or 
> upgrade it to a better router with more power and lots more external antennas 
> etc.
>  
>  
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Marsh
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:45 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5 Wifi Extenders
>  
> How big is this house ? I honestly hate the extenders 
> From: Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
> Sent: ‎11/‎17/‎2015 4:42 PM
> To: memb...@wispa.org; af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] 5 Wifi Extenders
> 
> Any of you ever come across a house with this many extenders.  Sounds like 
> trouble lurking to me.
>  
> Tyson Burris, President 
> Internet Communications Inc. 
> 739 Commerce Dr. 
> Franklin, IN 46131 
>   
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Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*******, Re: Cybermonday

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Gino,

 

We ran ads on Facebook as well.  Needless to say, I won’t be doing that for a 
while.  It caught us off guard a bit.  Booked solid for weeks!

I still haven’t responded to all requests.  

 

It’s somewhat of an office joke now.One guy came in last night and said I 
should tell people we don’t sell internet anymore… until we get caught back up. 
 

 

Clearly, I said no to that idea.

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 7:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Spam:***, Re: [AFMUG] Cybermonday

 

What do you think these customers had before they decided to jump on that deal? 
Which BTW is pretty aggressive  

Jon Langeler

Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Dec 2, 2015, at 5:58 AM, Gino Villarini mailto:ginovi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

epmp and 450

 

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Matt mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What gear are you delivering that with?

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Gino Villarini mailto:ginovi...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> double speed on the basic plan (7/1 to 14/2) $59.95 plus free install
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Josh Reynolds  <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com> > wrote:
>>

>> What was the promo?
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2015 8:11 AM, "Gino Villarini" > <mailto:ginovi...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>
>>> anyone ran any cybermonday sales?
>>>
>>> we did a Facebook promo, 90 new sales
>
>

 

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[AFMUG] KPPA-3S5HV-90SS / J-Arms / Used 2.4 Canopy SM's / 5780 BH's

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Hey guys,

 

We have two brand new KP Performance antennas (KPPA-3S5HV-90SS).

I have opted not to use the 90's but stick with our 120 deployments.

These have not been deployed, but we did break the boxes down already and
recycled them.  So, I need to come up with a box to ship them in safely.

 

We will repackage and ship to anyone needing them.  I am willing to take a
small loss to get them out of the way.

 

While I am on the subject of recovering shelf space. ICI has:

 

30 J-Arm's / roof mounts brand new we would like to dump for $7 each plus
shipping.

50 Used Canopy 2.4 SM's with 13.4 firmware we would like to dump for $20
each plus shipping.

3 Used Canopy 5780BH50 Complete links with 13.4 firmware we would like to
dump for $250 per link plus shipping.

 

Tackle me off list if interested.

 

 

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[AFMUG] Needing Used 430 and 450 AP's ---> 5.8

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Hit me up, off list, if you have some you don't need.  

 

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[AFMUG] Used Stingers - FREE

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I have two boxes:  24X18X18  of used Stingers.  Mostly 2.4, but they do have
some 5.7 and 900's as well.

Free to anyone that will use them.  Just pay shipping cost.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

What firmware you guys running?  

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

 

>From what I heard this morning I'm confident.  And surprised it can be fixed 
>in software.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov" mailto:v...@atlasok.com> > wrote:

That's promising...


Vlad


On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows about it and they have a fix 
that they're testing.

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com> > wrote:

I don't buy the connector thing, at least not in all cases. I'm looking at the 
output of "debug crashlog" on one of the affected radios, and it does look like 
it's crashing hard. I don't see how it would be a connector issue. Also, we 
have a few sites with zero issues.. Same firmware and everything.


Vlad 



On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:

So is this a cable connector problem?  

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Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Josh Baird mailto:joshba...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yes. 

 

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/Cold-Weather-Issues/m-p/36592#U36592

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com> > wrote:

Hey folks,

Is anyone having trouble with ePMP (GPS variety) in cold weather? We seem to 
have a few units that started randomly locking up in the middle of the night 
when temps are below freezing. Rebooting seems to clear things up for a day or 
so.


peace

Vlad

 

 

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Yep. I got a few.

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 11:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

 

2.6.1rc1 from Sri.

 

I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)




 

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Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

What firmware you guys running?  

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

 

>From what I heard this morning I'm confident.  And surprised it can be fixed 
>in software.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov" mailto:v...@atlasok.com> > wrote:

That's promising...


Vlad


On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows about it and they have a fix 
that they're testing.

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com> > wrote:

I don't buy the connector thing, at least not in all cases. I'm looking at the 
output of "debug crashlog" on one of the affected radios, and it does look like 
it's crashing hard. I don't see how it would be a connector issue. Also, we 
have a few sites with zero issues.. Same firmware and everything.


Vlad 



On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:

So is this a cable connector problem?  

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320   Daytime # 
317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
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Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Josh Baird mailto:joshba...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yes. 

 

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/Cold-Weather-Issues/m-p/36592#U36592

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com> > wrote:

Hey folks,

Is anyone having trouble with ePMP (GPS variety) in cold weather? We seem to 
have a few units that started randomly locking up in the middle of the night 
when temps are below freezing. Rebooting seems to clear things up for a day or 
so.


peace

Vlad

 

 

 

 

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[AFMUG] New J-Arms for Sale

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Hey guys,

 

If you need them, we have brand new J-Arms to sale.  I don't know what the
going rate is, just hit me up with a reasonable offer that makes you happy
.. plus shipping:

 

3 Boxes - 15 assembled arms in each box.

 

Just taking up space here!

 

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[AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Hello Cambium,

 

At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs
compared notes on the 'cold weather' problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It
was very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across
the spectrum. 

We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have
identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made available
to fix this short term.

The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with it.


 

Our concern is simple.  If your software fix 'degrades' the performance of
the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would
prefer a full recall and replacement program immediately.

 

If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is
inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made
public.  

 

Thank you,

 

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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Josh,

 

I heard cpu clock is being messed with.  (you know … rumors)

 

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From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: memb...@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad 
ePMP units.

 

Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?




 

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Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Hello Cambium,

 

At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs compared 
notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It was very 
interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across the spectrum. 

We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have identified.  
We also understand the firmware RC that has been made available to fix this 
short term.

The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with it.  

 

Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of the 
product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would prefer a 
full recall and replacement program immediately.

 

If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made public. 
 

 

Thank you,

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320   Daytime # 
317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
Online:  <http://www.surfici.net> www.surfici.net 

 



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Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Yes! Same here.  Packet Flux to brick on some sites…almost like a negotiation 
issue when it gets cold.  Cable length isn’t a factor.

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 2:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

 

Yeah yeah :)

 

So - we moved it from a SyncInjector providing ~26V to a Cambium PoE Injector 
providing 30V.  It brought it back to life (at least temporarily).

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Just teasing...

 

From: Josh Baird <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:23 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

 

There have been some reports that feeding them with 48V fixes *some* issues.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Just keep raising the voltage until it starts working dammit!

 

(That is how the first transatlantic telegraph cable got ruined the first week 
of operation).

 

From: Josh Baird <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:08 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

 

Tell me about it.. first decent snow here today, and one of our sites is having 
issues (only the ePMP).  I think we have completely lost one AP.  We are going 
to try and feed it 48V (it's currently 24V) and see if that brings it back to 
life.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Hello Cambium,

 

At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs compared 
notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It was very 
interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across the spectrum. 

We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have identified.  
We also understand the firmware RC that has been made available to fix this 
short term.

The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with it.  

 

Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of the 
product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would prefer a 
full recall and replacement program immediately.

 

If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made public. 
 

 

Thank you,

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
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Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

I can tell you the firmware fix did not help at either sites we had issues.  

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 2:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

 

I just did.  Hopefully it stabilizes things.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Have you put the RC firmware on it?

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Josh Baird mailto:joshba...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This is the only AP on the site that is having problems.  All cable runs are 
the same (~200ft).

 

It has also worked for months up until today.  This problem has suffered the 
management loss/cold temperature problems as well.  

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

Long power run?  Is it possible you're losing 6v?  The radio stops booting at 
20v.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Josh Baird mailto:joshba...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yeah yeah :)

 

So - we moved it from a SyncInjector providing ~26V to a Cambium PoE Injector 
providing 30V.  It brought it back to life (at least temporarily).

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Just teasing...

 

From: Josh Baird <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:23 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

 

There have been some reports that feeding them with 48V fixes *some* issues.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Just keep raising the voltage until it starts working dammit!

 

(That is how the first transatlantic telegraph cable got ruined the first week 
of operation).

 

From: Josh Baird <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:08 AM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

 

Tell me about it.. first decent snow here today, and one of our sites is having 
issues (only the ePMP).  I think we have completely lost one AP.  We are going 
to try and feed it 48V (it's currently 24V) and see if that brings it back to 
life.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Hello Cambium,

 

At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs compared 
notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It was very 
interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across the spectrum. 

We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have identified.  
We also understand the firmware RC that has been made available to fix this 
short term.

The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with it.  

 

Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of the 
product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would prefer a 
full recall and replacement program immediately.

 

If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made public. 
 

 

Thank you,

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320   Daytime # 
317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Forrest,

 

Thank you for your research.  My theory was increased power consumption during 
the cold weather.  The units can be moved to the sync injectors once the temps 
get around 30+ and they work normally at that point.

 

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From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 4:44 AM
To: af 
Cc: memb...@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad 
ePMP units.

 

I do want to clarify one item:

This is not necessarily related to the cambium DRAM issue.   I don't want to 
claim that problem, since this isn't the same thing.   This is more of an issue 
where you have ePMP's which seem to start having power-related issues.   If 
moving to a 30V brick makes your problem go away, then the issue I describe 
below probably is your issue.  If moving to a higher voltage doesn't fix the 
issue then this probably doesn't relate to your issue.  Regardless, it is my 
intent to recommend that my customers move to 48V as soon as I confirm that 
this seems to fix at least a decent number of the problems without causing 
others.

Unfortunately this might be a case of the cold weather aggravating two separate 
issues (or for that matter, the cold weather causing increased current 
consumption in the ePMP, which then requires a higher voltage to operate 
correctly).

-forrest

 

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:43 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
mailto:li...@packetflux.com> > wrote:

A bit of an update from the PacketFlux side.

Late this afternoon I received a ticket from Tyson in relation to these issues. 
 In particular, sync from a PacketFlux SyncInjector dropping off on an ePMP 
when it's cold.  I have spent a bit of time this evening investigating this 
issue.  The following is a summary of what I found.  It's a bit long-winded so 
that those experiencing the problems can understand my current working theory 
and help me figure out if this is the case.

WARNING:  The following is based on a limited amount of testing with a single 
ePMP with no traffic and no clients and on a bench.   This is likely the best 
case scenario.  The field is only going to be worse.

The setup is as follows:

ePMP 1000 GPS AP, with no GPS hockey puck attached, connected to a Gigabit 
Syncinjector (Rev H and Rev I - I have a special one with a port of each 'type' 
;-) ).   I am powering the injector with a variable power supply so I can vary 
the voltages in.  The AP is connected to the Injector with ~100m of CAT5 cable. 
  The Antenna connectors have terminators on them, the AP is in transmit mode, 
but isn't passing any traffic since there are no clients.

When feeding the injector with 24V, I get about 23V at the AP.   This is pretty 
consistent with what I would expect in this situation.   The AP seems to work 
fine, at least on the bench and without doing any real work.   However, as the 
voltage drops, things start to get weird:

At around 22V in, (21V at the AP), Sync becomes flaky.  This is consistent on 
both H and I version ports on the injector.Sometimes it works, sometimes it 
doesn't.   Note that 22V is the bottom of the rated voltage inputs for the ePMP.

At around 20.5V in (19.5V at the AP), the radio just turns off.   It won't turn 
back on until around 22V.   

Now here's where some total speculation comes to play.   On the bench, this 
unit is drawing around 3W.  Let's assume that under load, and when temperatures 
are cold, this unit draws closer to 6W.  This would double the current, and 
quadruple the voltage drop.  Now, assume 24V in, this puts you at around 20V in 
at the AP, which is about the turnoff point.   Remember this is on 100m of 
wire, and a total speculation about a the power draw of a cold, under load AP.  
But the point is valid, regardless of the cause - if the circuit resistance 
when combined with the power load causes a low enough voltage at the AP, weird 
things will happen.  And since weird things seem to start to happen around 22V, 
there just isn't much headroom at 24V.   

This explains why things work well at 30V.

For those who are having this problem I'd recommend trying increasing the 
voltage into the SyncInjector.   The Revision H injectors can 

[AFMUG] ePMP 2.6 firmware : 00Park_ePMP03 syslog: PAM _pam_init_handlers: no default config /etc/pam.d/other

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Anyone else getting this in the 2.6 firmware?  What is it? 

 

 

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[AFMUG] Routers Question

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

For the router gurus..which I am not a part of:

 

Does Router0S 6.27 or 6.28 have any known issues handling PPPoE and
bandwidth?

Are speed tests reduced under this OS?  

 

Does anyone have a pipe beyond 1GB that I can max my routers connection on?
(offlist)

 

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Routers Question

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Glen, 

 

What kind of issues did you see on 6.28?

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 5:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routers Question

 

I can't comment on PPoE or serious bandwidth, but I did notice some issues
with 6.28 in my network. I dropped back to 6.27 rather than deal with
downtime while troubleshooting.

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc <mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>


To: memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org>  ; af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 4:00 PM

Subject: [AFMUG] Routers Question

 

For the router gurus..which I am not a part of:

 

Does Router0S 6.27 or 6.28 have any known issues handling PPPoE and
bandwidth?

Are speed tests reduced under this OS?  

 

Does anyone have a pipe beyond 1GB that I can max my routers connection on?
(offlist)

 

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*******, Re: Come on Unbt! (AF-5X)

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

I can write you a beautiful story.  What do you want it to say?  It will be 
your best seller with pictures and content that make RF geeks wet.  Oh I 
probably should keep the details secret! 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2015, at 1:44 PM, Matt Hardy  wrote:
> 
> It's funny you guys are joking about that, because we have been getting 
> "fake" stories ;)
> 
> Some have even copied screenshots from other sections, haha... 
> 
> Probably Luthman?
> 
>> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:
>> Nate, the contest is for a fictional "If I had an AF5X" story. The winner 
>> may get radios to make their wish happen.
>> 
>>> On May 20, 2015 10:35 AM, "Nate Burke"  wrote:
>>> I got a note from Ubnt about a contest to 'Share your AF-5X story, and win 
>>> a pair of radios'  I would love to submit a story !! IF I COULD GET 
>>> RADIOS !!
>>> 
>>> Get them into distribution before you start having contests  I have a 
>>> standing order with my distributor, but they say they have no idea when 
>>> they'll be getting more radios to fill it.
>>> 
>>> Nate
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

Simple:  buy cat 5 grounding kits for
Shielded cable.  Use them at top, middle and bottom. No more no less.  Doesn't 
involve cutting cable just connect into shield and water proof like hell. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2015, at 6:35 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> I would NOT put Cat5 surge protectors every 50-75 feet, you will likely get 
> Ethernet errors and/or negotiation problems.  At most there should be one at 
> each end.
>  
> You are probably thinking of coax, and even so I suspect those are shield 
> grounds, not actual surge protectors.
>  
> I do agree with not making your antennas the highest thing on the tower if 
> you can help it.
>  
> If you must use an omni antenna located at the top, I have had some success 
> with a COAX surge protector between the radio and the antenna.  Polyphaser 
> makes some DC blocking types that work OK and aren’t too expensive.  If 
> lightning hits, the omni is still probably toast, but it might save the radio.
>  
> From: Edward Brooks
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:24 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues
>  
> Here goes...
>  We have a new 118' Super Titan Max tower that has been grounded per 
> manufacturers recommendations.  Each leg is physically bonded (not 
> exothermically) to a 10' ground rod, all ground rods are then connected to 
> each other in a ring.  The equipment cabinet is bonded to an 8' ground rod 
> and tied into the meter base grounding as well.  The two ground rings are 
> then bonded to each other in 2 separate places.
>  With that said our issue has not been with the grounding, but with the 
> dissipation of static at the height of the antennas.  We currently have had 
> the worst problems with the 3 Cyclone 2.4 antennas which are currently 
> located on masts at the top of the tower.  We have also had issues with a 
> couple of the 5.7 Cyclones located below the top of the tower, but not as 
> frequently.  The center-line of the 2.4 APs is 120' AGL, the height of the 
> tower is 118' AGL.  We currently have WB-GigE-APC surge arrestors located in 
> the cabinet which is located 10 ft from the base of the tower.
>  After doing some research through various Cambium manuals and the 
> Motorola R56 manual, I have some idea what our issue is, but would like to 
> bounce those ideas off the community.  My thought is that we neglected to put 
> surge arrestors at 50' to 75' intervals (as recommended by the Motorola R56 
> manual) and 1 at the top for use in thunderstorm areas.  Also we may need to 
> lower the APs to a minimum of 2ft below the top of the tower (per the Cambium 
> manuals for various antenna types).
>  Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.  What have you done to 
> mitigate this problem?  Etc...
> 
> Thanks,
> -Ed
> -- 
> Edward Brooks
> Outside Plant Manager
> The Montana Internet Corporation
> 406-443-3347 X506
> 
> 
>   
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. 
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Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

Bingo!  That's what you need

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2015, at 9:08 PM, Steve Utick  wrote:
> 
> So, something like this then?   
> https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=445755
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc 
>>  wrote:
>> Simple:  buy cat 5 grounding kits for
>> Shielded cable.  Use them at top, middle and bottom. No more no less.  
>> Doesn't involve cutting cable just connect into shield and water proof like 
>> hell. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2015, at 6:35 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would NOT put Cat5 surge protectors every 50-75 feet, you will likely get 
>>> Ethernet errors and/or negotiation problems.  At most there should be one 
>>> at each end.
>>>  
>>> You are probably thinking of coax, and even so I suspect those are shield 
>>> grounds, not actual surge protectors.
>>>  
>>> I do agree with not making your antennas the highest thing on the tower if 
>>> you can help it.
>>>  
>>> If you must use an omni antenna located at the top, I have had some success 
>>> with a COAX surge protector between the radio and the antenna.  Polyphaser 
>>> makes some DC blocking types that work OK and aren’t too expensive.  If 
>>> lightning hits, the omni is still probably toast, but it might save the 
>>> radio.
>>>  
>>> From: Edward Brooks
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:24 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues
>>>  
>>> Here goes...
>>>  We have a new 118' Super Titan Max tower that has been grounded per 
>>> manufacturers recommendations.  Each leg is physically bonded (not 
>>> exothermically) to a 10' ground rod, all ground rods are then connected to 
>>> each other in a ring.  The equipment cabinet is bonded to an 8' ground rod 
>>> and tied into the meter base grounding as well.  The two ground rings are 
>>> then bonded to each other in 2 separate places.
>>>  With that said our issue has not been with the grounding, but with the 
>>> dissipation of static at the height of the antennas.  We currently have had 
>>> the worst problems with the 3 Cyclone 2.4 antennas which are currently 
>>> located on masts at the top of the tower.  We have also had issues with a 
>>> couple of the 5.7 Cyclones located below the top of the tower, but not as 
>>> frequently.  The center-line of the 2.4 APs is 120' AGL, the height of the 
>>> tower is 118' AGL.  We currently have WB-GigE-APC surge arrestors located 
>>> in the cabinet which is located 10 ft from the base of the tower.
>>>  After doing some research through various Cambium manuals and the 
>>> Motorola R56 manual, I have some idea what our issue is, but would like to 
>>> bounce those ideas off the community.  My thought is that we neglected to 
>>> put surge arrestors at 50' to 75' intervals (as recommended by the Motorola 
>>> R56 manual) and 1 at the top for use in thunderstorm areas.  Also we may 
>>> need to lower the APs to a minimum of 2ft below the top of the tower (per 
>>> the Cambium manuals for various antenna types).
>>>  Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.  What have you done 
>>> to mitigate this problem?  Etc...
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Ed
>>> -- 
>>> Edward Brooks
>>> Outside Plant Manager
>>> The Montana Internet Corporation
>>> 406-443-3347 X506
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. 
>>> www.avast.com
>>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Spam:************, eptp 5ghz backhaul dish options.

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

So simple.  Drop yourself a KP Performance ePMP mounting adapter onto a UBNT 2' 
dish.  Add your radio.   Get nice pretty links.  Cambium and UBNT married as 
one 

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> On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Brandon Yuchasz  wrote:
> 
> Wondering if anyone has used any of the microtik 30db dishes with the ePTP 
> units and how mounting went and if there was any real issues? We are looking 
> to deploy 10 units next month and I want a 2 foot dish with a radome on the 
> links. The force 110 dishes would be fine for these links but I don’t want to 
> chance ice buildup this winter so I need to find another option that the ePTP 
> can mount to easily. Unless Chuck wants to make me 10 radomes for the force 
> 110’s?
>  
> Appreciate any experience you guys have with so far.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Brandon Yuchasz
> GogebicRange.net
> www.gogebicrange.net
>  

Re: [AFMUG] Spam:************, Re: 450 SM and 430 AP

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

AND… you cannot tone your 430 SM to a 450 AP.  Which, BTW, really pi$$ed me off.

 

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 5:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Spam:, Re: [AFMUG] 450 SM and 430 AP

 

No, this will not work.

 

The other way (PMP 450 AP to PMP 430 SMs) works, and is known as 
Interoperability Mode, but connecting a PMP 450 SM to a PMP 430 AP does not 
work (and never has, sorry Lewis).

 

Matt

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 3:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 SM and 430 AP

 

Initially they could. I assume the newer software still let's them but I don't 
know for sure.

 

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 3:01 PM SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@smarterbroadband.com> > wrote:

OL, I think I know the answer, but just to be sure.

 

Can a 450 5.7 SM connect to a 430 5.7 AP?

Re: [AFMUG] Spam:************, Re: 450 SM and 430 AP

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

Review my comment again... I said "tone" 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 26, 2015, at 8:01 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
> 
> From

[AFMUG] ePMP Model Numbers

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Anyone know the differences between these two model numbers?  

 

C050900A011A

C058900P112A

 

They seem identical but price isn't.

 

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Yes, that’s what I thought.

My issue was…

 

One can be bought for $399 and up

The other is $200 and up

 

Yet,  they appear to be the same damn radio.  ?? 

 

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

 

The datasheet does list one as FCC and the other as International. C050900A011A 
is an FCC GPS sync. Not sure what the other one is other than International as 
I can't find it many places.



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From: "Faisal Imtiaz" mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Cc: memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 8:28:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

Oops sorry, my mistake, both are 5GHZ, containerized with GPS...

 

The best I can tell from the Data sheets, that one is FCC/US model and the 
other is International ?

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>  

 

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From: "Faisal Imtiaz" mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net> >
To: memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> 
Cc: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:18:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

 

 

C050900A011A ... Connectorized 5ghz Radio

C058900P112A Connectorized 5ghz Radio w/GPS Sync.

 

 

aka, first one for CPE, the 2nd one for AP.

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>  

 


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From: "Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc" mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> >
To: memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> 
Cc: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:13:40 AM
Subject: [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

 

Anyone know the differences between these two model numbers? 

 

C050900A011A

C058900P112A

 

They seem identical but price isn’t.

 

 

 

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Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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Members mailing list
memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> 
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Ok thanks,

 

That is resolved.

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sriram Chaturvedi
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:42 AM
To: AFMUG
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

 

Mike is correct. 

 

They are both 5 GHz Connectorized Radio with Sync. But:

011A is ROW (Rest Of the World) for sale/use in countries that do not follow 
FCC or ETSI regulations

112A is FCC for sale/use in countries that follow FCC regulations

 

FYI, all the model numbers are listed in the ePMP Release Notes for quick 
reference.


Thanks,
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On Jun 29, 2015, at 4:35 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

 

The datasheet does list one as FCC and the other as International. C050900A011A 
is an FCC GPS sync. Not sure what the other one is other than International as 
I can't find it many places.



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From: "Faisal Imtiaz" mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Cc: memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 8:28:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

Oops sorry, my mistake, both are 5GHZ, containerized with GPS...

 

The best I can tell from the Data sheets, that one is FCC/US model and the 
other is International ?

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>  

 

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From: "Faisal Imtiaz" mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net> >
To: memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> 
Cc: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:18:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

 

 

C050900A011A ... Connectorized 5ghz Radio

C058900P112A Connectorized 5ghz Radio w/GPS Sync.

 

 

aka, first one for CPE, the 2nd one for AP.

 

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>  

 


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From: "Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc" mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> >
To: memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> 
Cc: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:13:40 AM
Subject: [WISPA Members] ePMP Model Numbers

 

Anyone know the differences between these two model numbers? 

 

C050900A011A

C058900P112A

 

They seem identical but price isn’t.

 

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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[AFMUG] For Sale - Need to clear up some shelf space

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

I need to sale/clear out the following items taking up space at the office:

 

Brand New - J-Arm's for dish mounts 

Brand New - UBNT POE 24V

Brand New - Force 110 Dishes 

 

I also have some used.

 

BH Complete Links 5480's

BH Complete Links 5780's

 

No reasonable offered refused.  I need some space for new gear!

 

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Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Just think of the number of IP’s assigned to organizations, but not being used.

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 8:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

 


REMAINING IPV4 INVENTORY


Discrete Block Size (CIDR)

Number of Blocks Available


/23

59


/24

437

 



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From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 7:57:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases

Iirc there were 34x /24 left when I last looked a couple weeks ago.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jul 1, 2015 8:55 AM, "Chuck Hogg" mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com> > wrote:

Almost...There's not much left...

https://www.arin.net/resources/request/ipv4_countdown.html




Regards,
Chuck

 

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 3:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

So how does this work? The boss dicked me on prior request. Will arin start 
enforcing allocations and recover the pirate space? I just got a /24 from our 
upstream but that's going away in the near term when they do some magic, I 
freed most of our /22 to reallocate appropriately for a request, with a lot of 
Nat. Is Xerox going to have to give up their bazillion before they tank me on 
our space? Does ip6 even NAT bro?
On Jun 30, 2015 11:17 PM, "TJ Trout" mailto:t...@voltbb.com> 
> wrote:
>
> well ipv4 is officially gone. has anyone done any private ipv4 acquisitions? 
> or black market? lol

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Clarify this Matt…

 

Alignment tone 430 SM to 450 AP now?

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

 

We spent a LOT of time on those George… we nailed many of them cold in 13.4.  
Please let us know if you’re still seeing them (“watchdog reset” can mean lots 
of things, there were a couple of cases that we couldn’t reproduce).

 

Regarding the “Adobe connecting to review server” thing… ignore it.  That was 
likely an oversight on our part.  We use that server to allow multiple folks to 
review and comment on the release notes (you know, for version control, 
collaboration, etc.).  We were rushing a bit to get the documentation over the 
finish line this week before the holiday.

 

Alignment tone is there and working!

 

Let us know if you guys find anything else we should know about, this one was a 
long time coming… but we’re proud of the finished product.  Enjoy.

 

Happy 4th of July to all!

 

Matt

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 9:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

 

Hopefully the watchdog resets on 450 APs goes away. That is getting stupid on 
13.2.1. Just had another one about 10 minutes ago.

On 7/2/2015 7:50 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:

We have been running 13.4 build 11 for some time now.   I have not seen any 
major issues with it.   

 

The 450 build works fine on the 430 AP’s.

 

The only thing that I know was a problem was P8 FSK radios bricking when 
upgraded to build 11.   I have not read the release notes to see if the release 
version addresses that problem.

 

Mark

 

 

On Jul 2, 2015, at 6:10 PM, Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

There is an announcement on the 430 page that the 450 load should be used on 
430s needing to connect to a 450 AP.

How is this supposed to be managed? Is there a reason to actually load the 430 
firmware on a 430 (anything)?




bp

 

On 7/2/2015 3:02 PM, George Skorup wrote:

I'm just about to look through the release notes. And then GTFO here for the 
long weekend!

They said the alignment tone issue required a new FPGA build. Guess they got it 
done for 13.4. AFAIK, this was only on the 450, PMP100 wasn't affected. Maybe 
it messed up the 430 too?

Combined firmware? You mean for 430 and 450? I guess so. But FSK is still a 
separate package.

On 7/2/2015 4:53 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:

Definitely different than before. There are mentions of the alignment tone 
being fixed in the release notes but I'm not sure if it's for PMP450 or PMP100 
or what. Now that it's all combined firmware. 

 

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Is it just me, or was this distributed differently than in the past?  I don’t 
remember .zip files with the release notes inside.  Also when I opened the 
release notes, Adobe Reader wanted to connect to a “review server” and share my 
email address etc. with all other reviewers.  WTF?  Did I just hit some hotkey 
accidentally?

 

Also, I don’t see anything in the release notes about SM alignment tone.  
Didn’t this break from 13.2.1 to 13.3?  To be fixed in 13.4?  Or is my brain 
just not working today.  I thought it was 13.3 and all its progeny were dead to 
me because I can’t live without oxygen, water, and alignment tone.

 

Lots of cool stuff in 13.4, like sector wide SA, but I need my alignment tone.

 

 

From: Ryan Ray <mailto:ryan...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:11 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

 

Who's gonna be the first guinea pig? Make sure to do a 1000 unit upgrade and 
let us know how it goes :P 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AFMUG] Cambium RMA Rant

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Cambium.

 

Give me a break.  You make us fill out an RMA form online which includes
data about the radio to begin with.

Then your support team calls to verify the problems.

Then the same support team sends a text document asking for the data again?

 

Please call somebody at UBNT to help you simplify the process online with
quick return processing.  Ok?

 

Rant over.  

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
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Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 13.4

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

Seen it brother.  We downgraded 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:10 PM, Matt Hopkins  wrote:
> 
> This was not a browser cache issue. The APs that had the "Registering" issue 
> had anywhere from 9-65 SMs. Cambium support advised me to downgrade to 13.2.1 
> and said that it was a known issue.
> Matt Hopkins
> OnlineNW Support
> 503.687.1030
> supp...@onlinenw.com
> onlinenw.com
>> On 7/17/2015 4:34 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>> Oh, forgot to mention, I didn't see any change in power levels either.
>> 
>>> On 7/17/2015 6:33 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>> I've updated a couple 5GHz 450 sectors so far and haven't seen this. They 
>>> all have less than 20 SMs though. Do yours have a lot of SMs? Are you also 
>>> sure it's not a browser cache issue?
>>> 
>>> Yes, the Lites are a special build, 13.2.1.3 which Cambium hasn't made 
>>> available so I've also been hesitant to update any of them.
>>> 
 On 7/17/2015 5:59 PM, Matt Hopkins wrote:
 I just wanted to throw out a heads-up for a Friday afternoon. What is 
 happening is that some of the SMs are displayed as "registering" in the AP 
 even after they are registered. You could click on the SM in the table and 
 it would take you to the SM like normal still. This happened on a 2.4 450 
 and multiple 5GHz 450 APs. The signal doesn't seem to matter as some of 
 the SMs had signals as good as -67 with 29 SNR. Traffic would not pass 
 over the SM and if they had an additional VC for voice it wouldn't ever 
 establish. I also saw that overall signal levels of SMs were 5 db (give or 
 take) worse on 13.4. Additionally it seems that Lite APs (-APL) are not 
 letting me roll back to 13.2.1, or any other version for that matter. I am 
 glad I only upgraded a handful of APs because I'm excited for the new CoA 
 feature.
 -- 
 Matt Hopkins
 Network Administrator
 503.687.1030
 supp...@onlinenw.com
 onlinenw.com
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Indiana Regional WISP Meeting - July 24

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

We can chat about you taking me out to eat.  That's a worthy chat.

 

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Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 10:59 AM
To: 'af@afmug.com'
Subject: [AFMUG] Indiana Regional WISP Meeting - July 24

 

Not sure if any of you are planning to go, but I will be at the WISPA
meeting in Indianapolis on Friday if anyone wants to chat.

 

(or maybe this information will cause you to stay far far away from this
meeting :))

 

Matt Mangriotis

Senior Product Manager
Cambium Networks
3800 Golf Road, Suite 360

Rolling Meadows, IL 60008

 

 <http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/> www.cambiumnetworks.com
O: 847-439-6379

M: 630-308-9394
E:  <mailto:m...@cambiumnetworks.com> m...@cambiumnetworks.com



 

Join the Conversation

 <http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/> Cambium Networks Community Forum

 

[AFMUG] MT Router Guru's

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Any reason why I cannot run anything above OS 6.25 on a CCR1306 without
PPPoE sessions going haywire?

6.25 'appears' to be nice and stable.  

 

 

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Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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[AFMUG] Force 110 Feedhorn

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Good morning,

 

For those of you using Force 110's. Are you still having trouble with these
Feedhorn tabs breaking?

Has anyone developed a better dish for these radios?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Feedhorn

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

How about C4?

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 1:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Feedhorn

 

They might be but seem to be working fine in the field. I didn't have to get 
pumped on my bowflex just to deploy one either.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Feedhorn

 

itelite feels super cheap to me.  Just a heads up.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 13, 2015 11:55 AM, "Andy Trimmell" mailto:atrimm...@precisionds.com> > wrote:

Not sure of a better option other than maybe trying the ITElite panels. We've 
mauled a few of the dainty pigtails off the feedhorns but haven't broke the 
tabs yet. 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 9:01 AM
To: memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> ; af@afmug.com 
<mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] Force 110 Feedhorn

 

Good morning,

 

For those of you using Force 110’s… Are you still having trouble with these 
Feedhorn tabs breaking?

Has anyone developed a better dish for these radios?

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*******, Epmp 2.4 bug - no ap list

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc]

LMAO.  Josh you are just like me! Call people out for the BS THEY PUT OUT.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 20, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> 
> Are you f$%king serious?
> 
> Do you guys even make sure the thing compiled before you release it???  What 
> a dumbass bug!!!
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*******, People still deploying 430SMs ??

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Paul,

 

We are buying them up cheap.  Good product for small sites.

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 9:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Spam:***, [AFMUG] People still deploying 430SMs ??

 

Those of you with 430 / 450 networks, are you still deploying 430 SMs or are
you switching everything to 450SMS (and APs) ??

 

I have a bunch of 430SMs (and APs) and am debating on whether to keep
deploying them or cut over?  I would think there is still a lot of life in a
solid platform that can do 40+Mbit.

 

Hmmm.

 

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PDMNet / Florida Broadband 

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

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[AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Have any of you seen something like this?

 

Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.

-56 running link test around 190/90

No Ethernet errors

UDP router to router test great

TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)

Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most

 

Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and no
issues

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Josh,

 

UDP can do 100Mb easy  (although I see these random drops in the UDP chart like 
it dies for a second)

TCP barely hits 20Mb

 

I have tried flex and 75/25

I have tried auto on both Ethernet sides and locked to 100

 

Changed cable, ports etc.

 

 

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

 

What are the UDP tests showing?  Is it set to flexible or fixed?  It kind of 
sounds like one direction is tanked with noise (hence why TCP has problems but 
UDP may heavy be one way).

 

I had the *OPPOSITE* experience.  Ubnt link couldn't do shit (under 5mbps 
aggregate) and the Force110 link is doing more like 50+.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Have any of you seen something like this?

 

Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.

-56 running link test around 190/90

No Ethernet errors

UDP router to router test great

TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)

Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most

 

Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and no issues

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

I should add it’s still getting 190/90 on the wireless link test… like a pimp.

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

 



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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

 

What are the UDP tests showing?  Is it set to flexible or fixed?  It kind of 
sounds like one direction is tanked with noise (hence why TCP has problems but 
UDP may heavy be one way).

 

I had the *OPPOSITE* experience.  Ubnt link couldn't do shit (under 5mbps 
aggregate) and the Force110 link is doing more like 50+.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Have any of you seen something like this?

 

Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.

-56 running link test around 190/90

No Ethernet errors

UDP router to router test great

TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)

Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most

 

Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and no issues

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320   Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online:  <http://www.surfici.net> www.surfici.net 

 



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Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

L:)L  yep.  ePIMP

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

 



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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 5:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

 

Like an ePiMP. 

On Mar 24, 2015 4:37 PM, "Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc" 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

I should add it’s still getting 190/90 on the wireless link test… like a pimp.

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320   Daytime # 
317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
Online:  <http://www.surfici.net> www.surfici.net 

 



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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 Issue

 

What are the UDP tests showing?  Is it set to flexible or fixed?  It kind of 
sounds like one direction is tanked with noise (hence why TCP has problems but 
UDP may heavy be one way).

 

I had the *OPPOSITE* experience.  Ubnt link couldn't do shit (under 5mbps 
aggregate) and the Force110 link is doing more like 50+.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net> > wrote:

Have any of you seen something like this?

 

Force 110 set in PTP mode.  Links are great.

-56 running link test around 190/90

No Ethernet errors

UDP router to router test great

TCP router to router is in the dump (maybe 10mb)

Speed test from the PPPoE account sucks 8-12mb at the most

 

Replaced a UBNT Rocket M5 which was doing about 45Mb no problem and no issues

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320   Daytime # 
317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
Online:  <http://www.surfici.net> www.surfici.net 

 



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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> 
Version: 2015.0.5856 / Virus Database: 4315/9373 - Release Date: 03/24/15