Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-19 Thread Jeremy Grip
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>>> 
>>> Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at
>>> 11:34 AM
>>> To: Rory Conaway
>>> <r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
>>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
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>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW:
>>> This is
>>> trending on
>>> Facebook right now in WISP Talk
>>> 
>>> Agreed!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *//*
>>> 
>>> */Gino Villarini/*
>>> 
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304
>>> Guaynabo,
>>> Puerto Rico 00968
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway
>>> via WISP
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> __ __
>>> 
>>> __ __
>>> 
>>> As someone who has written 60
>>> articles
>>> and never having been
>>> paid a dime for my content, yes, I
>>> believe that WISPA as an
>>> organization is better served by
>>> eliminating this policy.  I
>>> do it because I felt that the more
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Chicago Cubs vs. Chicago Blackhawks for the bulk of their existences. Cubs were 
on WGN, which reached nearly the whole country and Cubs fans everywhere. 
Blackhawks were live-only and no one cared about them until they went on TV. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




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From: "Robert Andrews" <i...@avantwireless.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 12:15:13 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in 
WISP Talk 

Two things... FIRST why is this coming across from WISPA to AFMUG and 
not replyable to AFMUG. That's a Serious problem. I don't want my 
responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list... ALARM ALARM ALARM! 

Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is dealing with. If 
they do live streams of the air races they worry it decreases attendance 
which is where the money is. The actual reality is that live TV 
sports has proven over and over again that TV presentation actually 
increases the desire to attend events. Events without live 
presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased attendance 
because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance. Arguments 
against have been disproved so many times in the sports world that it's 
a sure way to get fired as a marketing VP if you try it. 

On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote: 
> I can see that access to a recording of all events at a reasonable price 
> on a recorded basis as an alternative. My bet is though that this is 
> the boards attempt to appease calls from vendors for higher 
> participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to get there but can you 
> fault them for trying? The vendors pay the biggest chunk of the event. 
> They want people to talk to who can buy their products. They don't want 
> half of WISPA sitting at home streaming the event. 
> 
> I think having one a year would help but they probably have good reasons 
> for having two. 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017, 11:37 AM Chris Fabien via WISP <w...@wispa.org 
> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote: 
> 
> I would also be willing to pay $100 for access to video of all 
> sessions after the conference. I think even folks who attend would 
> be interested since it is not possible to attend all of the sessions. 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Jon Langeler via WISP 
> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote: 
> 
> They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations 
> online for $100 per member. 
> 
> Jon Langeler 
> Michwave Technologies, Inc. 
> 
> 
> On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP 
> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote: 
> 
>> Uff� If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this 
>> rule� sorry Wispa buts its a 1980�s policy� we are in 2017 
>> 
>> From: <wisp-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>> 
>> on behalf of Keefe John via WISP <w...@wispa.org 
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> 
>> Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com 
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>" <keefe...@ethoplex.com 
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>, Principal WISPA Member List 
>> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> 
>> Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM 
>> To: Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net 
>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>, Principal WISPA Member List 
>> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> 
>> Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is trending on 
>> Facebook right now in WISP Talk 
>> 
>> Agreed! 
>> 
>> 
>> *//* 
>> 
>> */Gino Villarini/* 
>> 
>> President 
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP wrote: 
>>> 
>>> __ __ 
>>> 
>>> __ __ 
>>> 
>>> As someone who has written 60 articles and never having been 
>>> paid a dime for my content, yes, I believe that WISPA as an 
>>> organization is better served by eliminating this policy. I 
>>> do it because I felt that the more information out there, the 
>>> better we are as an industry (yes, I still keep some 
>>> information proprietary). As a vendor, I�d be furious as 
>>> most of the speakers have recommendations or experience with 
>>> specific products that they want to get out publicly. 
>>> 
>>> If this is the policy going forward, I definitely won�t be 
>>> speaking at any future events (I�m sure many people will 
>>

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
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> Date: Wednesday, March
> 15, 2017 at
> 11:34 AM
> To: Rory Conaway
> <r...@triadwireless.net
> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
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>
>
> Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW:
> [AFMUG] FW:
> This is
> trending on
> Facebook right now in
> WISP Talk
>
> Agreed!
>
>
> *//*
>
> */Gino Villarini/*
>
> 

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Robert Andrews
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Date: Wednesday, March
15, 2017 at
11:34 AM
To: Rory Conaway
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Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW:
[AFMUG] FW:
This is
trending on
Facebook right now in
WISP Talk

Agreed!


*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18
Suite 304
Guaynabo,
Puerto Rico 00968





On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM,
Rory Conaway
via WISP
wrote:


__ __

__ __

As someone who has
written 60
articles
and never having been
paid a dime for my
content, yes, I
believe that WISPA as an
organization is
better served by
eliminating this policy.  I
do it because I felt
that the more
information out there, the
better we are as an
industry (yes, I
still keep some
information
proprietary).  As a
vendor,
I�d be furious as
most of the speakers
have
recommendations or
experience with
specific products
that they want
to get
out publicly.

If this is the
policy going
forward, I
   

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Larry Smith
On Wed March 15 2017 14:31, Chuck McCown wrote:
> Good day for me.  My 5th grandchild (4th grandson) arrived during
> AnimalFarm.   And we ran out of catalogs too.  Excited about both!

Chuck

  Congratulations on both counts.  Just had my 6th great-grandkid born two
months ago - and they are loads more fun than the kids ever were (and yes,
I tell my kids this too)...

-- 
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net


Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Chuck McCown
mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
  <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>

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  <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>>>, Principal WISPA
  Member List
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  <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
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  <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
  <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>>

  Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at
  11:34 AM
  To: Rory Conaway
  <r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
  <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
  <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
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      <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
      <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>>>, Principal WISPA
  Member List
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  <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
  <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>>

  Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW:
  This is
  trending on
  Facebook right now in WISP Talk

  Agreed!


  *//*

  */Gino Villarini/*

  President
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304
  Guaynabo,
  Puerto Rico 00968



  

  On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway
  via WISP
  wrote:


  __ __

  __ __

  As someone who has written 60
  articles
  and never having been
  paid a dime for my content, yes, I
  believe that WISPA as an
  organization is better served by
  eliminating this policy.  I
  do it because I felt that the more
  information out there, the
  better we are as an industry 
(yes, I
  still keep some
  information proprietary).  As a
  vendor,
  I�d be furious as
  most of the speakers have
  recommendations or experience with
  specific products that they want
  to get
  out publicly.

  If this is the policy going
  forward, I
  definitely won�t be
  speaking at any future events 
(I�m
  sure many people will
  probably be happy at that)
  unless I�m
  getting paid (fat
  chance of that, I�m sure), and
  probably won�t even be going.
  There are so many other places
  that the
  same information can
  be gleaned, vendor forums, AFMUG
  email
  lists, Facebook, etc�
  that I believe this position of
  WISPA is
  simply a huge
  mistake.  But hey, the vendors are
  writing most of the checks
  

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Chuck McCown
wrote:

They should at least be streaming and then put
the presentations
online for $100 per member.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via
WISP
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>

<mailto:w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>> wrote:

Uff� If I was there, I would be the first
one breaking this
rule� sorry Wispa buts its a 1980�s
policy� we are in
2017

From: <wisp-boun...@wispa.org
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Member List
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<mailto:w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>> 

Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
To: Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>

<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net 

<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>>, Principal WISPA
Member List
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<mailto:w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>> 

Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is
trending on
Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Agreed!


*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo,
Puerto Rico 00968




On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP
wrote:


__ __

__ __

As someone who has written 60 articles
and never having been
paid a dime for my content, yes, I
believe that WISPA as an
organization is better served by
eliminating this policy.  I
do it because I felt that the more
information out there, the
better we are as an industry (yes, I
still keep some
information proprietary).  As a vendor,
I�d be furious as
most of the speakers have
recommendations or experience with
specific products that they want to get
out publicly.

If this is the policy going forward, I
definitely won�t be
speaking at any future events (I�m
sure many people will
probably be happy at that) unless I�m
getting paid (fat
chance of that, I�m sure), and
probably won�t even be going.
There are so many other places that the
same information can
be gleaned, vendor forums, AFMUG email
lists, F

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Chris Wright
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Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at
11:34 AM
To: Rory Conaway
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    <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>>

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<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>>>>, 
Principal WISPA
Member List
<w...@wispa.org<mailto:w...@wispa.org>
<mailto:w...@wispa.org<mailto:w...@wispa.org>> 
<mailto:w...@wispa.org<mailto:w...@wispa.org>
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<mailto:w...@wispa.org<mailto:w...@wispa.org>
<mailto:w...@wispa.org<mailto:w...@wispa.org>> 
<mailto:w...@wispa.org<mailto:w...@wispa.org>
<mailto:w...@wispa.org<mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>>>

Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW:
This is
trending on
Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Agreed!


*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304
Guaynabo,
Puerto Rico 00968





On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway
via WISP
wrote:


__ __

__ __

As someone who has written 60
articles
and never having been
 

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Uff� If I was there, I would be
>>>> the first
>>>> one breaking this
>>>> rule� sorry Wispa buts its a
>>>> 1980�s
>>>> policy� we are in
>>>> 2017
>>>>
>>>> From: <wisp-boun...@wispa.org
>>>> <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>
>>>> <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org
>>>> <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>>
>>>> <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org
>>>> <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>
>>>>
>>>> <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org
>>>> <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>>>>
>>>>         on behalf of Keefe John via WISP
>>>> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>
>>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>>
>>>> Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>
>>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>
>>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>
>>>>
>>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>>"
>>>> <keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>
>>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>
>>>>
>>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>>>, Principal WISPA
>>>> Member List
>>>> <w...@wispa.org
>>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at
>>>> 11:34 AM
>>>> To: Rory Conaway
>>>> <r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
>>>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
>>>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
>>>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
>>>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
>>>>
>>>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
>>>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>>>, Principal WISPA
>>>> Member List
>>>> <w...@wispa.org
>>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW:
>>>> This is
>>>> trending on
>>>> Facebook right now in WISP Talk
>>>>
>>>> Agreed!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *//*
>>>>
>>>>   

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
 <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>
>>
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>>"
>> <keefe...@ethoplex.com
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>
>>         <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>
>>
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>>>, Principal WISPA
>> Member List
>> <w...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>>
>>
>> Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at
>> 11:34 AM
>> To: Rory Conaway
>> <r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
>>
>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>>>, Principal WISPA
>> Member List
>> <w...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW:
>> This is
>> trending on
>> Facebook right now in WISP Talk
>>
>> Agreed!
>>
>>
>> *//*
>>
>> */Gino Villarini/*
>>
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304
>> Guaynabo,
>> Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway
>> via WISP
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> As someone who has written 60
>> articles
>> and never having been
>> paid a dime for my content, yes, I
>> believe that WISPA as an
>> organization is better served by
>> eliminating this policy.  I
>> do it because I felt that the more
>> information out there, the
>> better we are as an industry
>> (yes, I
>> still keep some
>> information proprietary).  As a
>> vendor,
>> I�d be furious as
>> most of the speakers have
>> recommendations or experience with
>> specific products that they want
>> to get
>> out publicly.
>>
>> If this is the policy going
>> forward, I
>> definitely won�t be
>> speaking at any future events
>> (I�m
>>   

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Cameron Crum
<mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org
>>> <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>>>>
>>> on behalf of Keefe John via WISP
>>> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>
>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>>
>>> Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>
>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>>     <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>
>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>
>>>
>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>>"
>>> <keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>
>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>
>>>
>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>>>, Principal WISPA
>>> Member List
>>> <w...@wispa.org
>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>>
>>>
>>> Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at
>>> 11:34 AM
>>> To: Rory Conaway
>>> <r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
>>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
>>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
>>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
>>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
>>>
>>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
>>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>>>, Principal WISPA
>>> Member List
>>> <w...@wispa.org
>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW:
>>> This is
>>> trending on
>>> Facebook right now in WISP Talk
>>>
>>> Agreed!
>>>
>>>
>>> *//*
>>>
>>> */Gino Villarini/*
>>>
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304
>>> Guaynabo,
>>> Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway
>>> via WISP
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>> As someone who has written 60
>>> articles
>>> and never having been
>>> paid a dime for my content, yes,
>>> I
>>> believe that WISPA as an
>>> organization is better served by
>>>  

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
;> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>
>>
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>>"
>> <keefe...@ethoplex.com
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>
>>         <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>
>>
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>>>, Principal WISPA
>> Member List
>> <w...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>>
>>
>> Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at
>> 11:34 AM
>> To: Rory Conaway
>> <r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
>>
>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>>>, Principal WISPA
>> Member List
>> <w...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW:
>> This is
>> trending on
>> Facebook right now in WISP Talk
>>
>> Agreed!
>>
>>
>> *//*
>>
>> */Gino Villarini/*
>>
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304
>> Guaynabo,
>> Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway
>> via WISP
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> As someone who has written 60
>> articles
>> and never having been
>> paid a dime for my content, yes, I
>> believe that WISPA as an
>> organization is better served by
>> eliminating this policy.  I
>> do it because I felt that the more
>> information out there, the
>> better we are as an industry
>> (yes, I
>> still keep some
>> information proprietary).  As a
>> vendor,
>> I�d be furious as
>> most of the speakers have
>> recommendations or experience with
>> specific products that they want
>> to get
>> out publicly.
>>
>> If this is the policy going
>> forward, I
>> definitely won�t be
>> speaking at any future events
>> (I�m
>> sure many people will
>> probably be happy at that)
>> unless I�m
>> getting

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Robert Andrews
ilto:w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>
<mailto:w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>> wrote:

I would also be willing to pay $100 for
access to
video of all
sessions after the conference. I think even
folks
who attend would
be interested since it is not possible to
attend all
of the sessions.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Jon
Langeler via WISP
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>
<mailto:w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
<mailto:w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>
<mailto:w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>> wrote:

They should at least be streaming and
then put
the presentations
online for $100 per member.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino
Villarini via
WISP
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>
<mailto:w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
<mailto:w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>
<mailto:w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>> wrote:

Uff� If I was there, I would be
the first
one breaking this
rule� sorry Wispa buts its a 1980�s
policy� we are in
2017

From: <wisp-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>
<mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>>
<mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>

<mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>>>>
on behalf of Keefe John via WISP
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>
<mailto:w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
<mailto:w...@wispa.org
<mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
<mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>>
Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>

<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>>"
<keefe...@ethoplex.com
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>

<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>>>, Principal WISPA
Member List
<w...@wispa.org
<mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
<mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
<mailto:w...@wispa.org
<mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
<mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>>

Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at
11:34 AM
To: Rory Conaway
<r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
        <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>

    <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
    <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>>>, Principal WISPA
Member List
<w...@wispa.org
<mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
<mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
<mailto:w...@wispa.org
<mailto:w...@wispa.org> <mailto:w...@wispa.org
<mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>>

 

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via
> WISP
> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>
> <mailto:w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>> wrote:
>
> Uff� If I was there, I would be the first
> one breaking this
> rule� sorry Wispa buts its a 1980�s
> policy� we are in
> 2017
>
> From: <wisp-boun...@wispa.org
> <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>
> <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org
>
> <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>>>
> on behalf of Keefe John via WISP
> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>
> <mailto:w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org
> >>>
> Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com
> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>
> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>
> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>"
> <keefe...@ethoplex.com <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>
> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com
>
> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>>, Principal WISPA
> Member List
> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>
>     <mailto:w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>
>
>     Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
> To: Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net
> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
>
> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>>, Principal WISPA
> Member List
> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>
> <mailto:w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>>
>
> Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is
> trending on
> Facebook right now in WISP Talk
>
> Agreed!
>
>
> *//*
>
> */Gino Villarini/*
>
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo,
> Puerto Rico 00968
>
>
>  69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png>
>
> On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP
> wrote:
>
>
> __ __
>
> __ __
>
> As someone who has written 60 articles
> and never having been
> paid a dime for my content, yes, I
> believe that WISPA as an
> organization is better served by
> eliminating this policy.  I
> do it because I felt that the more
> information out there, the
> better we are as an industry (yes, I
> still keep some
> information proprietary).  As a vendor,
> I�d be furious as
> most of the speakers have
> recommendations or experience with
> specific products that they want to get
> out publicly.
>
> If this is the policy going forward, I
> definitely won�t be
> speaking at any future events (I�m
> sure many people will
> probably be happy at that) unless I�m
> getting paid (fat
> chance of that, I�m sure), and
> probably won�t even be going.
> There are so many other places that the
> same information can
> be gleaned, vendor forums, AFMUG email

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Idus Martaie

On Mar 15, 2017 12:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Aha, something is afoot, Watson
>
> On Mar 15, 2017 11:45 AM, "Robert Andrews" <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rory,
>> I don't think so..   You shared or forwarded a post to AFMUG from
>> the WISPA group and the AFMUG _list_ forwarded it to me, I believe, as I
>> got other posts in the same thread to AFMUG and all of them had the AFMUG
>> stripped out of the reply FROM AFMUG!
>>
>> On 03/15/2017 10:41 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>>
>>> Robert, this was my error.  Please accept my apologies.
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right
>>> now in WISP Talk
>>>
>>> Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from WISPA to AFMUG and
>>> not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.   I don't want my
>>> responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM  ALARM  ALARM!
>>>
>>> Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is dealing with.   If
>>> they do live streams of the air races they worry it decreases attendance
>>> which is where the money is.The actual reality is that live TV
>>> sports has proven over and over again that TV presentation actually
>>> increases the desire to attend events.   Events without live
>>> presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased attendance
>>> because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance.   Arguments
>>> against have been disproved so many times in the sports world that it's
>>> a sure way to get fired as a marketing VP if you try it.
>>>
>>> On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can see that access to a recording of all events at a reasonable
>>>> price on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My bet is though that
>>>> this is the boards attempt to appease calls from vendors for higher
>>>> participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to get there but can you
>>>> fault them for trying? The vendors pay the biggest chunk of the event.
>>>> They want people to talk to who can buy their products. They don't
>>>> want half of WISPA sitting at home streaming the event.
>>>>
>>>> I think having one a year would help but they probably have good
>>>> reasons for having two.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017, 11:37 AM Chris Fabien via WISP <w...@wispa.org
>>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would also be willing to pay $100 for access to video of all
>>>> sessions after the conference. I think even folks who attend would
>>>> be interested since it is not possible to attend all of the
>>>> sessions.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Jon Langeler via WISP
>>>> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations
>>>> online for $100 per member.
>>>>
>>>> Jon Langeler
>>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP
>>>> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Uff� If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this
>>>>>     rule� sorry Wispa buts its a 1980�s policy� we are in
>>>>> 2017
>>>>>
>>>>> From: <wisp-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>>
>>>>> on behalf of Keefe John via WISP <w...@wispa.org
>>>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>>>>> Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>" <keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>, Principal WISPA Member List
>>>>> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
>>>>> To: Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net
>>&

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Aha, something is afoot, Watson

On Mar 15, 2017 11:45 AM, "Robert Andrews" <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:

> Hi Rory,
> I don't think so..   You shared or forwarded a post to AFMUG from
> the WISPA group and the AFMUG _list_ forwarded it to me, I believe, as I
> got other posts in the same thread to AFMUG and all of them had the AFMUG
> stripped out of the reply FROM AFMUG!
>
> On 03/15/2017 10:41 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>
>> Robert, this was my error.  Please accept my apologies.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right
>> now in WISP Talk
>>
>> Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from WISPA to AFMUG and
>> not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.   I don't want my
>> responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM  ALARM  ALARM!
>>
>> Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is dealing with.   If
>> they do live streams of the air races they worry it decreases attendance
>> which is where the money is.The actual reality is that live TV
>> sports has proven over and over again that TV presentation actually
>> increases the desire to attend events.   Events without live
>> presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased attendance
>> because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance.   Arguments
>> against have been disproved so many times in the sports world that it's a
>> sure way to get fired as a marketing VP if you try it.
>>
>> On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:
>>
>>> I can see that access to a recording of all events at a reasonable
>>> price on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My bet is though that
>>> this is the boards attempt to appease calls from vendors for higher
>>> participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to get there but can you
>>> fault them for trying? The vendors pay the biggest chunk of the event.
>>> They want people to talk to who can buy their products. They don't
>>> want half of WISPA sitting at home streaming the event.
>>>
>>> I think having one a year would help but they probably have good
>>> reasons for having two.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017, 11:37 AM Chris Fabien via WISP <w...@wispa.org
>>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would also be willing to pay $100 for access to video of all
>>> sessions after the conference. I think even folks who attend would
>>> be interested since it is not possible to attend all of the sessions.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Jon Langeler via WISP
>>> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations
>>> online for $100 per member.
>>>
>>> Jon Langeler
>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP
>>> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Uff� If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this
>>>> rule� sorry Wispa buts its a 1980�s policy� we are in
>>>> 2017
>>>>
>>>> From: <wisp-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>>
>>>>     on behalf of Keefe John via WISP <w...@wispa.org
>>>>     <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>>>> Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>" <keefe...@ethoplex.com
>>>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>, Principal WISPA Member List
>>>> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
>>>> To: Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net
>>>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>, Principal WISPA Member List
>>>> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is trending on
>>>> Facebook right now in WISP Talk
>>>>
>>>> Agreed!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *//*
>>>>
>>>> */G

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Robert Andrews

Hi Rory,
	I don't think so..   You shared or forwarded a post to AFMUG from the 
WISPA group and the AFMUG _list_ forwarded it to me, I believe, as I got 
other posts in the same thread to AFMUG and all of them had the AFMUG 
stripped out of the reply FROM AFMUG!


On 03/15/2017 10:41 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

Robert, this was my error.  Please accept my apologies.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in 
WISP Talk

Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from WISPA to AFMUG and
not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.   I don't want my
responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM  ALARM  ALARM!

Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is dealing with.   If
they do live streams of the air races they worry it decreases attendance
which is where the money is.The actual reality is that live TV
sports has proven over and over again that TV presentation actually
increases the desire to attend events.   Events without live
presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased attendance
because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance.   Arguments
against have been disproved so many times in the sports world that it's a sure 
way to get fired as a marketing VP if you try it.

On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:

I can see that access to a recording of all events at a reasonable
price on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My bet is though that
this is the boards attempt to appease calls from vendors for higher
participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to get there but can you
fault them for trying? The vendors pay the biggest chunk of the event.
They want people to talk to who can buy their products. They don't
want half of WISPA sitting at home streaming the event.

I think having one a year would help but they probably have good
reasons for having two.


On Wed, Mar 15, 2017, 11:37 AM Chris Fabien via WISP <w...@wispa.org
<mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:

I would also be willing to pay $100 for access to video of all
sessions after the conference. I think even folks who attend would
be interested since it is not possible to attend all of the sessions.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Jon Langeler via WISP
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:

They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations
online for $100 per member.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:


Uff� If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this
rule� sorry Wispa buts its a 1980�s policy� we are in
2017

From: <wisp-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>>
on behalf of Keefe John via WISP <w...@wispa.org
<mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>" <keefe...@ethoplex.com
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>, Principal WISPA Member List
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
To: Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>, Principal WISPA Member List
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is trending on
Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Agreed!


*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP wrote:


__ __

__ __

As someone who has written 60 articles and never having been
paid a dime for my content, yes, I believe that WISPA as an
organization is better served by eliminating this policy.  I
do it because I felt that the more information out there, the
better we are as an industry (yes, I still keep some
information proprietary).  As a vendor, I�d be furious as
most of the speakers have recommendations or experience with
specific products that they want to get out publicly.

If this is the policy going forward, I definitely won�t be
speaking at any future events (I�m sure many people will
probably be happy at that) unless I�m getting paid (fat
chance of that, I�m sure), and probably won�t even be going.
There are so many other places that the same information can
be gleaned, vendor forums, AFMUG email lists, Facebook, etc�
that I believe this position of WISPA is

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Rory Conaway
Robert, this was my error.  Please accept my apologies.

Rory 

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in 
WISP Talk

Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from WISPA to AFMUG and 
not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.   I don't want my 
responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM  ALARM  ALARM!

Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is dealing with.   If 
they do live streams of the air races they worry it decreases attendance 
which is where the money is.The actual reality is that live TV 
sports has proven over and over again that TV presentation actually 
increases the desire to attend events.   Events without live 
presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased attendance 
because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance.   Arguments 
against have been disproved so many times in the sports world that it's a sure 
way to get fired as a marketing VP if you try it.

On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:
> I can see that access to a recording of all events at a reasonable 
> price on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My bet is though that 
> this is the boards attempt to appease calls from vendors for higher 
> participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to get there but can you 
> fault them for trying? The vendors pay the biggest chunk of the event.
> They want people to talk to who can buy their products. They don't 
> want half of WISPA sitting at home streaming the event.
>
> I think having one a year would help but they probably have good 
> reasons for having two.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017, 11:37 AM Chris Fabien via WISP <w...@wispa.org 
> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:
>
> I would also be willing to pay $100 for access to video of all
> sessions after the conference. I think even folks who attend would
> be interested since it is not possible to attend all of the sessions.
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Jon Langeler via WISP
> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:
>
> They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations
> online for $100 per member.
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP
> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:
>
>> Uff� If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this
>> rule� sorry Wispa buts its a 1980�s policy� we are in 
>> 2017
>>
>> From: <wisp-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>>
>> on behalf of Keefe John via WISP <w...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>> Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>" <keefe...@ethoplex.com
>> <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>, Principal WISPA Member List
>> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>>         Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
>>     To: Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net
>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>, Principal WISPA Member List
>> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is trending on
>> Facebook right now in WISP Talk
>>
>> Agreed!
>>
>>
>> *//*
>>
>> */Gino Villarini/*
>>
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> 
>>
>> On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP wrote:
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>> As someone who has written 60 articles and never having been
>>> paid a dime for my content, yes, I believe that WISPA as an
>>> organization is better served by eliminating this policy.  I
>>> do it because I felt that the more information out there, the
>>> better we are as an industry (yes, I still keep some
>>> information proprietary).  As a vendor, I�d be furious as
>>> most of the speakers have recommendations or experience with
>>> specific products that they want to get out publicly.
>>>
>>> If this is the policy going forward, I definitely won�t be
>>> speaking at any future events (I�m sure many p

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Chuck McCown

I hit reply all and your posting was to:
To: Mimbres Communications <mim...@sw-ei.com>, af@afmug.com

Somehow the sw-ei.com linked to WISPA?

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Andrews

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now 
in WISP Talk


Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from WISPA to AFMUG and
not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.   I don't want my
responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM  ALARM  ALARM!

Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is dealing with.   If
they do live streams of the air races they worry it decreases attendance
which is where the money is.The actual reality is that live TV
sports has proven over and over again that TV presentation actually
increases the desire to attend events.   Events without live
presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased attendance
because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance.   Arguments
against have been disproved so many times in the sports world that it's
a sure way to get fired as a marketing VP if you try it.

On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:

I can see that access to a recording of all events at a reasonable price
on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My bet is though that this is
the boards attempt to appease calls from vendors for higher
participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to get there but can you
fault them for trying? The vendors pay the biggest chunk of the event.
They want people to talk to who can buy their products. They don't want
half of WISPA sitting at home streaming the event.

I think having one a year would help but they probably have good reasons
for having two.


On Wed, Mar 15, 2017, 11:37 AM Chris Fabien via WISP <w...@wispa.org
<mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:

I would also be willing to pay $100 for access to video of all
sessions after the conference. I think even folks who attend would
be interested since it is not possible to attend all of the sessions.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Jon Langeler via WISP
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:

They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations
online for $100 per member.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:


Uff� If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this
rule� sorry Wispa buts its a 1980�s policy� we are in 2017

From: <wisp-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>>
on behalf of Keefe John via WISP <w...@wispa.org
<mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>" <keefe...@ethoplex.com
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>, Principal WISPA Member List
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
To: Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>, Principal WISPA Member List
    <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is trending on
Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Agreed!


*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP wrote:


__ __

__ __

As someone who has written 60 articles and never having been
paid a dime for my content, yes, I believe that WISPA as an
organization is better served by eliminating this policy.  I
do it because I felt that the more information out there, the
better we are as an industry (yes, I still keep some
information proprietary).  As a vendor, I�d be furious as
most of the speakers have recommendations or experience with
specific products that they want to get out publicly.

If this is the policy going forward, I definitely won�t be
speaking at any future events (I�m sure many people will
probably be happy at that) unless I�m getting paid (fat
chance of that, I�m sure), and probably won�t even be going.
There are so many other places that the same information can
be gleaned, vendor forums, AFMUG email lists, Facebook, etc�
that I believe this position of WISPA is simply a huge
mistake.  But hey, the vendors are writing most of the checks
so I�d be curious to ask what they think? 

__ __

Rory 

__ __

*From:*Matt Hoppes [mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net]
   

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Time for a committee to review the findings of review committee, send it to
a vote, then send it to an  approval committee
Come on guys...The more information we all get and share , the better
consumers/sellers we all become.

On Mar 15, 2017 11:29 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> It has been a good show for me.  I am out of catalogs all ready.  I do
> think that members ought to be able to view the content after a certain
> amount of time has passed, but I am not really a full paying wispa member.
> I get my membership in trade for bring the AnimalFarm content and following.
>
> I am very grateful that Wispa has helped to keep AnimalFarm alive.  I
> would be totally OK if my stuff was made freely available but not really my
> call to make.
>
> -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:06 AM
> To: Mimbres Communications ; af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now
> in WISP Talk
>
> Why the heck should a member of WISPA be required to pay and ADDITIONAL
> $100 to see presentations of a meeting that should be part of WISPA
> membership.   I hear they have record attendance.   Should be record
> PROFITS.   Attendance at something like this is very dear time to a lot
> of members at this time of year.   We are just recovering from winter
> this time of year with most of our signups happening now, and going to
> one of these conferences isn't going to be in the cards.   And I can't
> watch the presentations and have to wait mucho months to even get the
> card deck?   BS
>
> On 03/15/2017 09:22 AM, Mimbres Communications via WISP wrote:
>
>> The WISPApalooza 2016 slide decks were put up without even requiring a
>> sign-in.  Just a data point.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Jon Langeler via WISP <w...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:
>>
>> They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations
>> online for $100 per member.
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP
>> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Uff� If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this rule�
>>> sorry Wispa buts its a 1980�s policy� we are in 2017
>>>
>>> From: <wisp-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>> on
>>> behalf of Keefe John via WISP <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org
>>> >>
>>> Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>"
>>> <keefe...@ethoplex.com <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>, Principal
>>> WISPA Member List <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>>> Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
>>> To: Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net
>>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>, Principal WISPA Member List
>>> <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is trending on Facebook
>>> right now in WISP Talk
>>>
>>> Agreed!
>>>
>>>
>>> *//*
>>>
>>> */Gino Villarini/*
>>>
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> __ __
>>>>
>>>> __ __
>>>>
>>>> As someone who has written 60 articles and never having been paid
>>>> a dime for my content, yes, I believe that WISPA as an
>>>> organization is better served by eliminating this policy.  I do
>>>> it because I felt that the more information out there, the better
>>>> we are as an industry (yes, I still keep some information
>>>> proprietary).  As a vendor, I�d be furious as most of the
>>>> speakers have recommendations or experience with specific
>>>> products that they want to get out publicly.
>>>>
>>>> If this is the policy going forward, I definitely won�t be
>>>> speaking at any future events (I�m sure many people will probably
>>>> be happy at that) unless I�m getting paid (fat chance of that,
>>>> I�m sure), and probably won�t even be going.  There are so many
>>>> other places tha

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Chuck McCown
It has been a good show for me.  I am out of catalogs all ready.  I do think 
that members ought to be able to view the content after a certain amount of 
time has passed, but I am not really a full paying wispa member.  I get my 
membership in trade for bring the AnimalFarm content and following.


I am very grateful that Wispa has helped to keep AnimalFarm alive.  I would 
be totally OK if my stuff was made freely available but not really my call 
to make.


-Original Message- 
From: Robert Andrews

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:06 AM
To: Mimbres Communications ; af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now 
in WISP Talk


Why the heck should a member of WISPA be required to pay and ADDITIONAL
$100 to see presentations of a meeting that should be part of WISPA
membership.   I hear they have record attendance.   Should be record
PROFITS.   Attendance at something like this is very dear time to a lot
of members at this time of year.   We are just recovering from winter
this time of year with most of our signups happening now, and going to
one of these conferences isn't going to be in the cards.   And I can't
watch the presentations and have to wait mucho months to even get the
card deck?   BS

On 03/15/2017 09:22 AM, Mimbres Communications via WISP wrote:

The WISPApalooza 2016 slide decks were put up without even requiring a
sign-in.  Just a data point.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Jon Langeler via WISP <w...@wispa.org
<mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:

They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations
online for $100 per member.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:


Uff� If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this rule�
sorry Wispa buts its a 1980�s policy� we are in 2017

From: <wisp-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>> on
behalf of Keefe John via WISP <w...@wispa.org 
<mailto:w...@wispa.org>>

Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>"
<keefe...@ethoplex.com <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>, Principal
WISPA Member List <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
To: Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>, Principal WISPA Member List
    <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is trending on Facebook
right now in WISP Talk

Agreed!


*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP wrote:


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As someone who has written 60 articles and never having been paid
a dime for my content, yes, I believe that WISPA as an
organization is better served by eliminating this policy.  I do
it because I felt that the more information out there, the better
we are as an industry (yes, I still keep some information
proprietary).  As a vendor, I�d be furious as most of the
speakers have recommendations or experience with specific
products that they want to get out publicly.

If this is the policy going forward, I definitely won�t be
speaking at any future events (I�m sure many people will probably
be happy at that) unless I�m getting paid (fat chance of that,
I�m sure), and probably won�t even be going.  There are so many
other places that the same information can be gleaned, vendor
forums, AFMUG email lists, Facebook, etc� that I believe this
position of WISPA is simply a huge mistake.  But hey, the vendors
are writing most of the checks so I�d be curious to ask what they
think? 

__ __

Rory 

__ __

*From:*Matt Hoppes [mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>]
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:50 AM
*To:* Lewis Bergman; Principal WISPA Member List
*Cc:* Rory Conaway
*Subject:* Re: [Wisp] This is trending on Facebook right now in
WISP Talk

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Yeah... It seems like most of the membership does.  And as a
previous, and potentially future presenter, I have an issue with
it.  Unless WISPA is going to pay me, I am not OK with them
claiming the copyright to my presentation and prohibiting folks
from recording it.  I am presenting for the good of the community.

Sent from my iPad


On Mar 15, 2017, at 8:12 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:

Seems pretty standard to me. I assume you have an issue with
it?

__ __

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 9:47

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Robert Andrews
Two things...  FIRST why is this coming across from WISPA to AFMUG and 
not replyable to AFMUG.   That's a Serious problem.   I don't want my 
responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM  ALARM  ALARM!


Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is dealing with.   If 
they do live streams of the air races they worry it decreases attendance 
which is where the money is.The actual reality is that live TV 
sports has proven over and over again that TV presentation actually 
increases the desire to attend events.   Events without live 
presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased attendance 
because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance.   Arguments 
against have been disproved so many times in the sports world that it's 
a sure way to get fired as a marketing VP if you try it.


On 03/15/2017 09:45 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP wrote:

I can see that access to a recording of all events at a reasonable price
on a recorded basis as an alternative.  My bet is though that this is
the boards attempt to appease calls from vendors for higher
participation. Maybe this isn't the best way to get there but can you
fault them for trying? The vendors pay the biggest chunk of the event.
They want people to talk to who can buy their products. They don't want
half of WISPA sitting at home streaming the event.

I think having one a year would help but they probably have good reasons
for having two.


On Wed, Mar 15, 2017, 11:37 AM Chris Fabien via WISP <w...@wispa.org
<mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:

I would also be willing to pay $100 for access to video of all
sessions after the conference. I think even folks who attend would
be interested since it is not possible to attend all of the sessions.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Jon Langeler via WISP
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:

They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations
online for $100 per member.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:


Uff� If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this
rule� sorry Wispa buts its a 1980�s policy� we are in 2017

From: <wisp-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>>
on behalf of Keefe John via WISP <w...@wispa.org
<mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>" <keefe...@ethoplex.com
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>, Principal WISPA Member List
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
To: Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>, Principal WISPA Member List
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is trending on
Facebook right now in WISP Talk

Agreed!


*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP wrote:


__ __

__ __

As someone who has written 60 articles and never having been
paid a dime for my content, yes, I believe that WISPA as an
organization is better served by eliminating this policy.  I
do it because I felt that the more information out there, the
better we are as an industry (yes, I still keep some
information proprietary).  As a vendor, I�d be furious as
most of the speakers have recommendations or experience with
specific products that they want to get out publicly.

If this is the policy going forward, I definitely won�t be
speaking at any future events (I�m sure many people will
probably be happy at that) unless I�m getting paid (fat
chance of that, I�m sure), and probably won�t even be going.
There are so many other places that the same information can
be gleaned, vendor forums, AFMUG email lists, Facebook, etc�
that I believe this position of WISPA is simply a huge
mistake.  But hey, the vendors are writing most of the checks
so I�d be curious to ask what they think? 

__ __

Rory 

__ __

*From:*Matt Hoppes [mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net]
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:50 AM
*To:* Lewis Bergman; Principal WISPA Member List
*Cc:* Rory Conaway
*Subject:* Re: [Wisp] This is trending on Facebook right now
in WISP Talk

__ __

Yeah... It seems like most of the membership does.  And as a
previous, and potentially

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk

2017-03-15 Thread Robert Andrews
Why the heck should a member of WISPA be required to pay and ADDITIONAL 
$100 to see presentations of a meeting that should be part of WISPA 
membership.   I hear they have record attendance.   Should be record 
PROFITS.   Attendance at something like this is very dear time to a lot 
of members at this time of year.   We are just recovering from winter 
this time of year with most of our signups happening now, and going to 
one of these conferences isn't going to be in the cards.   And I can't 
watch the presentations and have to wait mucho months to even get the 
card deck?   BS


On 03/15/2017 09:22 AM, Mimbres Communications via WISP wrote:

The WISPApalooza 2016 slide decks were put up without even requiring a
sign-in.  Just a data point.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Jon Langeler via WISP <w...@wispa.org
<mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:

They should at least be streaming and then put the presentations
online for $100 per member.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini via WISP
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:


Uff� If I was there, I would be the first one breaking this rule�
sorry Wispa buts its a 1980�s policy� we are in 2017

From: <wisp-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wisp-boun...@wispa.org>> on
behalf of Keefe John via WISP <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
Reply-To: "keefe...@ethoplex.com <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>"
<keefe...@ethoplex.com <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>, Principal
WISPA Member List <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 11:34 AM
To: Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>, Principal WISPA Member List
    <w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Wisp] FW: [AFMUG] FW: This is trending on Facebook
right now in WISP Talk

Agreed!


*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



On 3/15/2017 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway via WISP wrote:


__ __

__ __

As someone who has written 60 articles and never having been paid
a dime for my content, yes, I believe that WISPA as an
organization is better served by eliminating this policy.  I do
it because I felt that the more information out there, the better
we are as an industry (yes, I still keep some information
proprietary).  As a vendor, I�d be furious as most of the
speakers have recommendations or experience with specific
products that they want to get out publicly.

If this is the policy going forward, I definitely won�t be
speaking at any future events (I�m sure many people will probably
be happy at that) unless I�m getting paid (fat chance of that,
I�m sure), and probably won�t even be going.  There are so many
other places that the same information can be gleaned, vendor
forums, AFMUG email lists, Facebook, etc� that I believe this
position of WISPA is simply a huge mistake.  But hey, the vendors
are writing most of the checks so I�d be curious to ask what they
think? 

__ __

Rory 

__ __

*From:*Matt Hoppes [mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>]
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:50 AM
*To:* Lewis Bergman; Principal WISPA Member List
*Cc:* Rory Conaway
*Subject:* Re: [Wisp] This is trending on Facebook right now in
WISP Talk

__ __

Yeah... It seems like most of the membership does.  And as a
previous, and potentially future presenter, I have an issue with
it.  Unless WISPA is going to pay me, I am not OK with them
claiming the copyright to my presentation and prohibiting folks
from recording it.  I am presenting for the good of the community.

Sent from my iPad


On Mar 15, 2017, at 8:12 AM, Lewis Bergman via WISP
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:

Seems pretty standard to me. I assume you have an issue with
it?

__ __

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 9:47 PM Rory Conaway via WISP
<w...@wispa.org <mailto:w...@wispa.org>> wrote:

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This should get addressed quickly.

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