Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2018-01-06 Thread Steve Jones 
you should work directly with packetflux to get this going on the bench,
replicate everything you can (cable length, ground, etc). Cambium is not
going to be as malleable

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Craig Schmaderer <cr...@skywaveconnect.com>
wrote:

> Andreas, I am doing the same thing.  I really like Forrest Rack injector,
> so I might hold off on that to power and sync it, but I am definitely going
> to run fiber into it.  I am looking at options to do this, and was
> wondering if you came up with a good idea or tap system that you think will
> work to run fiber into the sfp ports?  I might splice a 12 strand loose
> tune on the ground in a breakout box and then use rugged patch cords to the
> radio on top?  I would like to use a tap system but I haven’t found one yet
> that has a duplex lc jumper?
>
>
>
> Thanks, Criag.
>
>
>
> *Craig R. Schmaderer*
>
> *CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.*
>
> *Ph: 402-372-1975 <(402)%20372-1975> | Fax: 402-372-1058
> <(402)%20372-1058>*
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian
> (List Account)
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:38 AM
> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)
>
>
>
> You can also power a medusa with any PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync, forgot
> to mention this.   Power+Ethernet, but not sync (the 450m doesn't support
> old-style canopy sync).
>
>
>
> Shouldn't be a problem at that length for power, not so much ethernet (but
> use a 56V power supply).   And a lot cheaper than a CMM5.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 9:06 PM, David M <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>
> here is the link on cambiums site
>
> according to this it has 1.8A per channel/port
>
> https://3fdumf3rqw5xx4mjgywguwz9-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-
> content/uploads/2017/09/SS_CMM5_022117v1.pdf
>
> so I dont see an issue with running all 4 ports with medusa for power ..
> .add the controller and now u can turn those ports on and off remotely.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/29/2017 10:43 AM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote:
>
> We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>
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> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)
>
>
>
> I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.
>
> Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
>
> If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of
> similar polarity and connect direct to the power supply.
>
>
>
> *From:* Andreas Wiatowski
>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)
>
>
>
> Good Morning,
>
>
>
> We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with
> fibre.  To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we
> can power the M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have
> the answer to this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of
> upto 500ft!
>

Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2018-01-05 Thread Craig Schmaderer 
Andreas, I am doing the same thing.  I really like Forrest Rack injector, so I 
might hold off on that to power and sync it, but I am definitely going to run 
fiber into it.  I am looking at options to do this, and was wondering if you 
came up with a good idea or tap system that you think will work to run fiber 
into the sfp ports?  I might splice a 12 strand loose tune on the ground in a 
breakout box and then use rugged patch cords to the radio on top?  I would like 
to use a tap system but I haven’t found one yet that has a duplex lc jumper?

Thanks, Criag.

Craig R. Schmaderer
CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058
Direct: 402-372-1052



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
Account)
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:38 AM
To: af <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

You can also power a medusa with any PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync, forgot to 
mention this.   Power+Ethernet, but not sync (the 450m doesn't support 
old-style canopy sync).

Shouldn't be a problem at that length for power, not so much ethernet (but use 
a 56V power supply).   And a lot cheaper than a CMM5.

On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 9:06 PM, David M 
<dmilho...@wletc.com<mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:

here is the link on cambiums site

according to this it has 1.8A per channel/port

https://3fdumf3rqw5xx4mjgywguwz9-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/SS_CMM5_022117v1.pdf

so I dont see an issue with running all 4 ports with medusa for power .. .add 
the controller and now u can turn those ports on and off remotely.



On 12/29/2017 10:43 AM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote:
We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.

Cheers,

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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.
Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of similar 
polarity and connect direct to the power supply.

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138<tel:(866)%20727-4138> x-600
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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-31 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) 
You can also power a medusa with any PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync, forgot
to mention this.   Power+Ethernet, but not sync (the 450m doesn't support
old-style canopy sync).

Shouldn't be a problem at that length for power, not so much ethernet (but
use a 56V power supply).   And a lot cheaper than a CMM5.

On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 9:06 PM, David M <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:

> here is the link on cambiums site
>
> according to this it has 1.8A per channel/port
>
> https://3fdumf3rqw5xx4mjgywguwz9-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-
> content/uploads/2017/09/SS_CMM5_022117v1.pdf
>
> so I dont see an issue with running all 4 ports with medusa for power ..
> .add the controller and now u can turn those ports on and off remotely.
>
>
>
> On 12/29/2017 10:43 AM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote:
>
> We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>
> Silo Wireless Inc.
>
> 1-866-727-4138 x-600 <(866)%20727-4138>
>
> http://www.silowireless.com
>
> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
>
>
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> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)
>
>
>
> I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.
>
> Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
>
> If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of
> similar polarity and connect direct to the power supply.
>
>
>
> *From:* Andreas Wiatowski
>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)
>
>
>
> Good Morning,
>
>
>
> We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with
> fibre.  To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we
> can power the M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have
> the answer to this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of
> upto 500ft!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>
> Silo Wireless Inc.
>
> 1-866-727-4138 <(866)%20727-4138> x-600
>
> http://www.silowireless.com
>
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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-30 Thread David M 

here is the link on cambiums site

according to this it has 1.8A per channel/port

https://3fdumf3rqw5xx4mjgywguwz9-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/SS_CMM5_022117v1.pdf

so I dont see an issue with running all 4 ports with medusa for power .. 
.add the controller and now u can turn those ports on and off remotely.




On 12/29/2017 10:43 AM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote:


We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

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*Date: *Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM
*To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.

Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?

If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of 
similar polarity and connect direct to the power supply.


*From:*Andreas Wiatowski

*Sent:*Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com

*Subject:*[AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with 
fibre.  To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if 
we can power the M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does 
anyone have the answer to this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and 
gell filled) of upto 500ft!


Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

http://www.silowireless.com <http://www.silowireless.com/>

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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-30 Thread David M 

Where have u been sleeping :)

Medusa is the beast MassMUMIMO radio

MUHAHAHAHAH!



On 12/30/2017 9:50 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:


The 450M needs 50w? I thought only the AirFiber needed that much 
power.�� Keep in mind that this cable is 23G.� Without running the 
numbers, I�m pretty sure that still works and if it doesn�t, Chuck�s 
would.


Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 10:22 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Yeah but it requires over 50W iirc �vs a UBNT AP 8-10w

*From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on 
behalf of Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net 
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
*Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com 
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>

*Date: *Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:22 PM
*To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com 
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>

*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Isn�t the 450m 48v?

Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 9:19 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Power consumption from the 450M is very different form a UBNT Unifi 
AP� just saying!


*From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on 
behalf of Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net 
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
*Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com 
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>

*Date: *Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:04 PM
*To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com 
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>

*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

If you use 23G Cat-6, you should be fine.� We just connected a 
Ubiquiti Unifi radio at 490� and it�s running fine. We used Primus 
direct burial cable for this run.


Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Andreas Wiatowski
*Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 7:15 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with 
fibre.� To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if 
we can power the M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.� Does 
anyone have the answer to this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and 
gell filled) of upto 500ft!


Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

http://www.silowireless.com <http://www.silowireless.com/>

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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-30 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) 
The syncbox junior Aux port that Neil mentioned is what we recommend for
most people if they are powering the radios in another way.   If you use
this for sync, then I don't see any reason why you couldn't just hardwire
the appropriate pins in a CAT5 cable to a 56V power supply and skip the
CMM5 altogether.   This of course would prevent remote power control unless
you used something like a packetflux PDU to control the power.

The cambium sync card for the rackinjector is coming, will be up for
pre-orders (hopefully early) next week, 99% sure shipping by the end of
January.  There will be a detailed explanation of the exact schedule up on
the web site when we put the units up for preorder.   We were going to have
them up this past week, but we decided we didn't need to book the income in
2017 since the tax man is already taking too much from us in 2017.

We'll give that a month or two of being in the field then will likely
release this circuitry in a powerinjector form factor for the 450i/450m.

On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Andreas Wiatowski <
andr...@silowireless.com> wrote:

> I don’t have a CMM5. I have been using CMM4 and Packetflux over the
> years.  I didn’t know PF had a Medusa capable unit on the market…I will
> take a look.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>
> Silo Wireless Inc.
>
> 1-866-727-4138 x-600 <(866)%20727-4138>
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> Do  you already have the CMM5?  If not I would use Packetflux.
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> We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.
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>
>
>
> I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.
>
> Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
>
> If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, j

Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-30 Thread Bill Prince 
The 450M is more like 70 watts in actual use. Not all the time, but it 
has to be factored in.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 12/30/2017 7:50 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:


The 450M needs 50w? I thought only the AirFiber needed that much 
power.�� Keep in mind that this cable is 23G.� Without running the 
numbers, I�m pretty sure that still works and if it doesn�t, Chuck�s 
would.


Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 10:22 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Yeah but it requires over 50W iirc �vs a UBNT AP 8-10w

*From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on 
behalf of Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net 
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
*Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com 
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>

*Date: *Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:22 PM
*To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com 
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>

*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Isn�t the 450m 48v?

Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 9:19 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Power consumption from the 450M is very different form a UBNT Unifi 
AP� just saying!


*From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on 
behalf of Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net 
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
*Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com 
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>

*Date: *Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:04 PM
*To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com 
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>

*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

If you use 23G Cat-6, you should be fine.� We just connected a 
Ubiquiti Unifi radio at 490� and it�s running fine. We used Primus 
direct burial cable for this run.


Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Andreas Wiatowski
*Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 7:15 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with 
fibre.� To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if 
we can power the M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.� Does 
anyone have the answer to this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and 
gell filled) of upto 500ft!


Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-30 Thread Seth Mattinen 

On 12/30/17 7:50 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
The 450M needs 50w?  I thought only the AirFiber needed that much power. 
Keep in mind that this cable is 23G.  Without running the numbers, I’m 
pretty sure that still works and if it doesn’t, Chuck’s would.





The 450m is like 7x radios in a single case.

Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-30 Thread Rory Conaway 
The 450M needs 50w?  I thought only the AirFiber needed that much power.   Keep 
in mind that this cable is 23G.  Without running the numbers, I'm pretty sure 
that still works and if it doesn't, Chuck's would.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 10:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Yeah but it requires over 50W iirc  vs a UBNT AP 8-10w

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:22 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Isn't the 450m 48v?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Power consumption from the 450M is very different form a UBNT Unifi AP... just 
saying!

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:04 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

If you use 23G Cat-6, you should be fine.  We just connected a Ubiquiti Unifi 
radio at 490' and it's running fine.  We used Primus direct burial cable for 
this run.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:
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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-29 Thread Gino A. Villarini 
Yeah but it requires over 50W iirc  vs a UBNT AP 8-10w

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:22 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Isn’t the 450m 48v?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Power consumption from the 450M is very different form a UBNT Unifi AP… just 
saying!

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:04 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

If you use 23G Cat-6, you should be fine.  We just connected a Ubiquiti Unifi 
radio at 490’ and it’s running fine.  We used Primus direct burial cable for 
this run.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-29 Thread Andreas Wiatowski 
Thanks Neil!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Neil Smellie 
<n...@corebroadband.ca>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:05 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Andreas

We used these

SYNCBOX JUNIOR AUX PORT VERSION

Works like a charm

Neil



On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 11:47 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
wrote:
Do  you already have the CMM5?  If not I would use Packetflux.

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600<tel:(866)%20727-4138>
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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"ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.
Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of similar 
polarity and connect direct to the power supply.

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138<tel:(866)%20727-4138> x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-29 Thread Neil Smellie 
Andreas

We used these

SYNCBOX JUNIOR AUX PORT VERSION

Works like a charm

Neil



On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 11:47 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Do  you already have the CMM5?  If not I would use Packetflux.
>
> *From:* Andreas Wiatowski
> *Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 9:43 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)
>
>
> We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>
> Silo Wireless Inc.
>
> 1-866-727-4138 x-600 <(866)%20727-4138>
>
> http://www.silowireless.com
>
> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
>
>
>
> Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:
>
> CanWISP http://www.canwisp.ca
>
> WISPA http://wispa.org
>
> Brantford Brant Chamber of Commerce
>
> Paris Chamber of Commerce
>
> Cambridge Chamber of Commerce
>
>
>
>
>
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> ch...@wbmfg.com>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)
>
>
>
> I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.
>
> Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
>
> If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of
> similar polarity and connect direct to the power supply.
>
>
>
> *From:* Andreas Wiatowski
>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)
>
>
>
> Good Morning,
>
>
>
> We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with
> fibre.  To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we
> can power the M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have
> the answer to this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of
> upto 500ft!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>
> Silo Wireless Inc.
>
> 1-866-727-4138 <(866)%20727-4138> x-600
>
> http://www.silowireless.com
>
> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
>
>
>
> Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:
>
> CanWISP http://www.canwisp.ca
>
> WISPA http://wispa.org
>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
>
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Bracebridge ON P1L 2A6
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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-29 Thread Andreas Wiatowski 
I don’t have a CMM5. I have been using CMM4 and Packetflux over the years.  I 
didn’t know PF had a Medusa capable unit on the market…I will take a look.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
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Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:47 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Do  you already have the CMM5?  If not I would use Packetflux.

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.

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Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.
Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of similar 
polarity and connect direct to the power supply.

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-29 Thread chuck 
Do  you already have the CMM5?  If not I would use Packetflux.  

From: Andreas Wiatowski 
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.

 

Cheers,

 

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

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http://www.silowireless.com

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Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

 

I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.  

Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?

If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of similar 
polarity and connect direct to the power supply.

 

From: Andreas Wiatowski 

Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

 

Good Morning,

 

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

 

Cheers,

 

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

http://www.silowireless.com

Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

 

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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-29 Thread Andreas Wiatowski 
We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.

Cheers,

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Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.
Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of similar 
polarity and connect direct to the power supply.

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-29 Thread Rory Conaway 
Isn't the 450m 48v?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Power consumption from the 450M is very different form a UBNT Unifi AP... just 
saying!

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:04 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

If you use 23G Cat-6, you should be fine.  We just connected a Ubiquiti Unifi 
radio at 490' and it's running fine.  We used Primus direct burial cable for 
this run.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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Paris Chamber of Commerce
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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-29 Thread Gino A. Villarini 
Power consumption from the 450M is very different form a UBNT Unifi AP… just 
saying!

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:04 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

If you use 23G Cat-6, you should be fine.  We just connected a Ubiquiti Unifi 
radio at 490’ and it’s running fine.  We used Primus direct burial cable for 
this run.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-29 Thread chuck 
I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.  
Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of similar 
polarity and connect direct to the power supply.

From: Andreas Wiatowski 
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

 

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

 

Cheers,

 

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

http://www.silowireless.com

Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

 

Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:

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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-29 Thread Rory Conaway 
If you use 23G Cat-6, you should be fine.  We just connected a Ubiquiti Unifi 
radio at 490’ and it’s running fine.  We used Primus direct burial cable for 
this run.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
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Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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[AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-29 Thread Andreas Wiatowski 
Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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