Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Are you trying to drum up a compliment? .hee hee. CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: We clicked on our verification email, no problem, but the folks who might miss this, are on vacation, don't read emails every day, etc, will the have any indication that their message wasn't sent aside from not seeing it on the list? Ie, will they get a bounce or anything? Just curious. Thanks for all you do Paul! See what happens when you put down the trumpet and actually work a day or twohee hee - Original Message - *From:* Paul McCall via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:27 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Thanks Chuck! *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon My verification subject was: Amazon SES Address Verification Request in region US East (N. Virginia) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Curtis Brotherton via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Here comes the Amazon Verification Email … Click the link in the email, and that will verify your email address as valid with Amazon. I will be flipping the switch tomorrow that restores the headers to display the actual person and email address of the sender (which also fixes the threading) J === Curtis Brotherton PDMNet (772) 564-6800 tel:%28772%29%20564-6800 *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:55 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Well…… As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it. There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers. That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list J In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the “Amazon verified email” method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email. This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend “stuff” just like we want it to.) The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn’t pull the trigger on the switchover. Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. Here’s what will happen…. All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address. The verification emails are good for 24 hours only. The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can’t change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc. Probably on Friday, we will turn on “normal headers”. If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. We will monitor the changes closely and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. *To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly. It’s important. Follow the instructions please.* Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 tel:772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 tel:772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
[AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Well.. As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it. There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers. That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list :) In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the Amazon verified email method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email. This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend stuff just like we want it to.) The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn't pull the trigger on the switchover. Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. Here's what will happen All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address. The verification emails are good for 24 hours only. The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can't change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc. Probably on Friday, we will turn on normal headers. If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. We will monitor the changes closely and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly. It's important. Follow the instructions please. Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Thanks Paul, It must be mentioned, Paul is doing this out of the goodness of his heart. Nothing in it for him. So, be kind when you bitch. From: Paul McCall via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 8:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Well…… As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it. There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers. That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list J In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the “Amazon verified email” method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email. This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend “stuff” just like we want it to.) The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn’t pull the trigger on the switchover. Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. Here’s what will happen…. All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address. The verification emails are good for 24 hours only. The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can’t change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc. Probably on Friday, we will turn on “normal headers”. If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. We will monitor the changes closely and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly. It’s important. Follow the instructions please. Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
tl;dr should go in bold at the top not the bottom! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Thanks Paul, It must be mentioned, Paul is doing this out of the goodness of his heart. Nothing in it for him. So, be kind when you bitch. *From:* Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 8:55 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Well…… As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it. There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers. That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list J In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the “Amazon verified email” method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email. This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend “stuff” just like we want it to.) The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn’t pull the trigger on the switchover. Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. Here’s what will happen…. All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address. The verification emails are good for 24 hours only. The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can’t change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc. Probably on Friday, we will turn on “normal headers”. If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. We will monitor the changes closely and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. *To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly. It’s important. Follow the instructions please.* Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Here comes the Amazon Verification Email ... Click the link in the email, and that will verify your email address as valid with Amazon. I will be flipping the switch tomorrow that restores the headers to display the actual person and email address of the sender (which also fixes the threading) :) === Curtis Brotherton PDMNet (772) 564-6800 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Well.. As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it. There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers. That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list :) In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the Amazon verified email method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email. This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend stuff just like we want it to.) The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn't pull the trigger on the switchover. Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. Here's what will happen All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address. The verification emails are good for 24 hours only. The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can't change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc. Probably on Friday, we will turn on normal headers. If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. We will monitor the changes closely and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly. It's important. Follow the instructions please. Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
YEAAA a threading FIX On 12/30/2014 11:18 AM, Curtis Brotherton via Af wrote: Here comes the Amazon Verification Email � Click the link in the email, and that will verify your email address as valid with Amazon. I will be flipping the switch tomorrow that restores the headers to display the actual person and email address of the sender (which also fixes the threading) J === Curtis Brotherton PDMNet (772) 564-6800 *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:55 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Well�� As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it. There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers. That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list J In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the �Amazon verified email� method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email. This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend �stuff� just like we want it to.) The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn�t pull the trigger on the switchover. Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. Here�s what will happen�. All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address. The verification emails are good for 24 hours only. The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can�t change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc. Probably on Friday, we will turn on �normal headers�. If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. We will monitor the changes closely and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. *To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly. It�s important. Follow the instructions please.* Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Didn't know it was broken. Gmail works just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:42 PM, David via Af af@afmug.com wrote: YEAAA a threading FIX On 12/30/2014 11:18 AM, Curtis Brotherton via Af wrote: Here comes the Amazon Verification Email � Click the link in the email, and that will verify your email address as valid with Amazon.� � I will be flipping the switch tomorrow that restores the headers to display the actual person and email address of the sender (which also fixes the threading)��� J � === Curtis Brotherton PDMNet (772) 564-6800 � *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:55 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon � Well�� � As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it.� There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers.� That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list J�� � In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the �Amazon verified email� method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email.� This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend �stuff� just like we want it to.)�� The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. � We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn�t pull the trigger on the switchover.� Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. � We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. � Here�s what will happen�. � All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address.� The verification emails are good for 24 hours only.� The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can�t change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc.� �Probably on Friday, we will turn on �normal headers�.�� If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. �We will monitor the changes closely� and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. � *To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly.� It�s important.� Follow the instructions please.* � Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net �
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Josh, The two issues were that because of the “munged” headers to be Amazon compliant, some programs couldn’t “rebuild” the proper order of threads, resulting in multiple threads or things out of order. There were only a few people that were complaining (which I fully understand, BTW) but it was different than most normal threads. The 2nd issue was related to the sender email address having to be not used/exposed for people to be able to see the direct email address to send PM, etc. Since most people were OK with it, we had to push it down the stack of work to properly test the other options, which were NOT easy to pull off. Amazon is great, very reliability and we don’t have server bounces (like none) but they have a LOT of specific things to do to make it happen. This seemingly made a simple process much more complicated but there are trade-offs in life. Long term, we will all be happy with the consistency, which was both Chuck and my goal. Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Didn't know it was broken. Gmail works just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:42 PM, David via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: YEAAA a threading FIX On 12/30/2014 11:18 AM, Curtis Brotherton via Af wrote: Here comes the Amazon Verification Email � Click the link in the email, and that will verify your email address as valid with Amazon.� � I will be flipping the switch tomorrow that restores the headers to display the actual person and email address of the sender (which also fixes the threading)��� ☺ � === Curtis Brotherton PDMNet (772) 564-6800 � From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:55 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon � Well�� � As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it.� There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers.� That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list ☺�� � In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the �Amazon verified email� method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email.� This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend �stuff� just like we want it to.)�� The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. � We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn�t pull the trigger on the switchover.� Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. � We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. � Here�s what will happen�. � All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address.� The verification emails are good for 24 hours only.� The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can�t change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc.� �Probably on Friday, we will turn on �normal headers�.�� If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. �We will monitor the changes closely� and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. � To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly.� It�s important.� Follow the instructions please. � Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800tel:772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352tel:772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net �
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Threading works fine in Zimbra too, though not seeing who is actually sending it has been annoying. Not a show stopper, though. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:43:49 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Didn't know it was broken. Gmail works just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:42 PM, David via Af af@afmug.com wrote: YEAAA a threading FIX On 12/30/2014 11:18 AM, Curtis Brotherton via Af wrote: blockquote Here comes the Amazon Verification Email � Click the link in the email, and that will verify your email address as valid with Amazon.� � I will be flipping the switch tomorrow that restores the headers to display the actual person and email address of the sender (which also fixes the threading)��� J � === Curtis Brotherton PDMNet (772) 564-6800 � From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon � Well�� � As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it.� There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers.� That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list J �� � In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the �Amazon verified email� method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email.� This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend �stuff� just like we want it to.)�� The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. � We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn�t pull the trigger on the switchover.� Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. � We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. � Here�s what will happen�. � All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address.� The verification emails are good for 24 hours only.� The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can�t change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc.� �Probably on Friday, we will turn on �normal headers�.�� If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. �We will monitor the changes closely� and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. � To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly.� It�s important.� Follow the instructions please. � Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net � /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Exchange never gave me a problem with it. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Threading works fine in Zimbra too, though not seeing who is actually sending it has been annoying. Not a show stopper, though. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:43:49 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Didn't know it was broken. Gmail works just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:42 PM, David via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: YEAAA a threading FIX On 12/30/2014 11:18 AM, Curtis Brotherton via Af wrote: Here comes the Amazon Verification Email � Click the link in the email, and that will verify your email address as valid with Amazon.� � I will be flipping the switch tomorrow that restores the headers to display the actual person and email address of the sender (which also fixes the threading)��� :) � === Curtis Brotherton PDMNet (772) 564-6800 � From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:55 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon � Well�� � As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it.� There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers.� That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list :)�� � In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the �Amazon verified email� method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email.� This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend �stuff� just like we want it to.)�� The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. � We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn�t pull the trigger on the switchover.� Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. � We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. � Here�s what will happen�. � All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address.� The verification emails are good for 24 hours only.� The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can�t change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc.� �Probably on Friday, we will turn on �normal headers�.�� If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. �We will monitor the changes closely� and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. � To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly.� It�s important.� Follow the instructions please. � Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800tel:772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352tel:772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net � Total Control Panel Loginhttps://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 014a9c54ff61-3052dae3-4665-4aae-8b34-4d6f2f3ff563-000...@amazonses.comhttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2953155828domain=litewire.net Removehttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2un-wl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2953155828domain=litewire.net amazonses.com from my allow list You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow list.
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
My verification subject was: Amazon SES Address Verification Request in region US East (N. Virginia) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Curtis Brotherton via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Here comes the Amazon Verification Email … Click the link in the email, and that will verify your email address as valid with Amazon. I will be flipping the switch tomorrow that restores the headers to display the actual person and email address of the sender (which also fixes the threading)J === Curtis Brotherton PDMNet (772) 564-6800 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:55 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Well…… As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it. There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers. That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list J In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the “Amazon verified email” method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email. This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend “stuff” just like we want it to.) The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn’t pull the trigger on the switchover. Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. Here’s what will happen…. All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address. The verification emails are good for 24 hours only. The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can’t change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc. Probably on Friday, we will turn on “normal headers”. If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. We will monitor the changes closely and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. *To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly. It’s important. Follow the instructions please.* Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Thanks Chuck! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon My verification subject was: Amazon SES Address Verification Request in region US East (N. Virginia) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Curtis Brotherton via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Here comes the Amazon Verification Email … Click the link in the email, and that will verify your email address as valid with Amazon. I will be flipping the switch tomorrow that restores the headers to display the actual person and email address of the sender (which also fixes the threading) ☺ === Curtis Brotherton PDMNet (772) 564-6800tel:%28772%29%20564-6800 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:55 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Well…… As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it. There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers. That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list ☺ In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the “Amazon verified email” method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email. This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend “stuff” just like we want it to.) The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn’t pull the trigger on the switchover. Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. Here’s what will happen…. All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address. The verification emails are good for 24 hours only. The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can’t change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc. Probably on Friday, we will turn on “normal headers”. If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. We will monitor the changes closely and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly. It’s important. Follow the instructions please. Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800tel:772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352tel:772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Done! So am I a Pharoah now? Jaime Solorza On Dec 30, 2014 12:28 PM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Thanks Chuck! *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon My verification subject was: Amazon SES Address Verification Request in region US East (N. Virginia) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Curtis Brotherton via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Here comes the Amazon Verification Email … Click the link in the email, and that will verify your email address as valid with Amazon. I will be flipping the switch tomorrow that restores the headers to display the actual person and email address of the sender (which also fixes the threading)J === Curtis Brotherton PDMNet (772) 564-6800 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:55 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Well…… As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it. There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers. That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list J In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the “Amazon verified email” method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email. This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend “stuff” just like we want it to.) The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn’t pull the trigger on the switchover. Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. Here’s what will happen…. All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address. The verification emails are good for 24 hours only. The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can’t change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc. Probably on Friday, we will turn on “normal headers”. If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. We will monitor the changes closely and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. *To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly. It’s important. Follow the instructions please.* Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Haven't seen mine as of 10 minutes ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:28 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can you let us know when they're finished sending out so we know if ours is lost? ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
I got mine literally 30 seconds ago, I think they are going out slowly. On 12/30/2014 12:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Haven't seen mine as of 10 minutes ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:28 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Can you let us know when they're finished sending out so we know if ours is lost? ~Seth -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Mine was the same.
Got it at 10:30 AM Pacific time.
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On 12/30/2014 10:15 AM, Chuck Hogg via Af wrote:
My verification subject was:
Amazon SES Address Verification Request in region US East (N. Virginia)
Regards,
Chuck
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Curtis Brotherton via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
Here comes the Amazon Verification Email … Click the link in the
email, and that will verify your email address as valid with Amazon.
I will be flipping the switch tomorrow that restores the headers
to display the actual person and email address of the sender
(which also fixes the threading) J
===
Curtis Brotherton
PDMNet
(772) 564-6800 tel:%28772%29%20564-6800
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall via Af
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:55 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Well……
As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG
list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it. There were
some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY
specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to
send email through their servers. That has resulted in a few
differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain
clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list J
In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to
test how things would work if we went the “Amazon verified email”
method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get
prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the
AFMUG verification email. This method seems to work just fine (we
actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it
handles all the backend “stuff” just like we want it to.) The
email headers then work like they would in any other mail server.
We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making
the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got
slammed with other projects and didn’t pull the trigger on the
switchover. Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE
BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG
signup.
We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get
everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the
email headers, etc.
Here’s what will happen….
All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified
(most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to
verify your email address. The verification emails are good for
24 hours only. The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG
unfortunately, and we can’t change it so just be looking for it,
check SPAM folders, etc. Probably on Friday, we will turn on
“normal headers”. If you have not been Amazon verified at that
point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the
list they will NOT go through. We will monitor the changes
closely and make any adjustments that are needed along the way.
*To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly.
It’s important. Follow the instructions please.*
Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 tel:772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 tel:772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/
pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Yes, slowly, on purpose. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon I got mine literally 30 seconds ago, I think they are going out slowly. On 12/30/2014 12:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Haven't seen mine as of 10 minutes ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:28 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Can you let us know when they're finished sending out so we know if ours is lost? ~Seth -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.comhttp://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.commailto:si...@powercode.com
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
W comes before L? Blasphemy. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:49 PM, Simon Westlake via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I got mine literally 30 seconds ago, I think they are going out slowly. On 12/30/2014 12:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Haven't seen mine as of 10 minutes ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:28 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can you let us know when they're finished sending out so we know if ours is lost? ~Seth -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
I got mine about a hour ago On Dec 30, 2014 12:53 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: W comes before L? Blasphemy. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:49 PM, Simon Westlake via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I got mine literally 30 seconds ago, I think they are going out slowly. On 12/30/2014 12:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Haven't seen mine as of 10 minutes ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:28 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can you let us know when they're finished sending out so we know if ours is lost? ~Seth -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Done! Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net mailto:den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of joseph marsh via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon I got mine about a hour ago On Dec 30, 2014 12:53 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: W comes before L? Blasphemy. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:49 PM, Simon Westlake via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I got mine literally 30 seconds ago, I think they are going out slowly. On 12/30/2014 12:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Haven't seen mine as of 10 minutes ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:28 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can you let us know when they're finished sending out so we know if ours is lost? ~Seth -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Got mine a half hour ago... they probably just pushed you to the bottom of the list :P From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Josh Luthman via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon W comes before L? Blasphemy. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:49 PM, Simon Westlake via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I got mine literally 30 seconds ago, I think they are going out slowly. On 12/30/2014 12:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Haven't seen mine as of 10 minutes ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:28 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Can you let us know when they're finished sending out so we know if ours is lost? ~Seth -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.comhttp://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010tel:920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.commailto:si...@powercode.com
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Pharasee From: Jaime Solorza via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:36 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Done! So am I a Pharoah now? Jaime Solorza On Dec 30, 2014 12:28 PM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Thanks Chuck! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon My verification subject was: Amazon SES Address Verification Request in region US East (N. Virginia) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Curtis Brotherton via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Here comes the Amazon Verification Email … Click the link in the email, and that will verify your email address as valid with Amazon. I will be flipping the switch tomorrow that restores the headers to display the actual person and email address of the sender (which also fixes the threading)J === Curtis Brotherton PDMNet (772) 564-6800 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Well…… As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it. There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers. That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list J In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the “Amazon verified email” method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email. This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend “stuff” just like we want it to.) The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn’t pull the trigger on the switchover. Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. Here’s what will happen…. All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address. The verification emails are good for 24 hours only. The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can’t change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc. Probably on Friday, we will turn on “normal headers”. If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. We will monitor the changes closely and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly. It’s important. Follow the instructions please. Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Mine were all caught by our SpamTitan instance. Had to go into the quarantine and release them all. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:55:59 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon I got mine about a hour ago On Dec 30, 2014 12:53 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: W comes before L? Blasphemy. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:49 PM, Simon Westlake via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I got mine literally 30 seconds ago, I think they are going out slowly. On 12/30/2014 12:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Haven't seen mine as of 10 minutes ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:28 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can you let us know when they're finished sending out so we know if ours is lost? ~Seth -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Age before beauty.. wait On 12/30/2014 12:53 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: W comes before L? Blasphemy. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:49 PM, Simon Westlake via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I got mine literally 30 seconds ago, I think they are going out slowly. On 12/30/2014 12:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Haven't seen mine as of 10 minutes ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 30, 2014 1:28 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Can you let us know when they're finished sending out so we know if ours is lost? ~Seth -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 tel:920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Did this make us like Jesus?
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
it was simon westl*A*ke before josh l*U*thman.
Amazon does it their way.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/30/2014 10:53 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
W comes before L? Blasphemy.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 30, 2014 1:49 PM, Simon Westlake via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
I got mine literally 30 seconds ago, I think they are going out slowly.
On 12/30/2014 12:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Haven't seen mine as of 10 minutes ago
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 30, 2014 1:28 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Can you let us know when they're finished sending out so we know if ours
is lost?
~Seth
--
Simon Westlake
Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS
powercode.com
P: 920-351-1010
E: si...@powercode.com
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
maybe for you. I am too much a pagan.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/30/2014 11:15 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote:
Did this make us like Jesus?
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
it was simon westl_*A*_ke before josh l*_U_*thman.
Amazon does it their way.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/30/2014 10:53 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
W comes before L? Blasphemy.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 30, 2014 1:49 PM, Simon Westlake via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
I got mine literally 30 seconds ago, I think they are going
out slowly.
On 12/30/2014 12:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Haven't seen mine as of 10 minutes ago
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 30, 2014 1:28 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
Can you let us know when they're finished sending out so
we know if ours is lost?
~Seth
--
Simon Westlake
Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS
powercode.com http://powercode.com
P: 920-351-1010 tel:920-351-1010
E: si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if
you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
Im going to get some water
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
maybe for you. I am too much a pagan.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/30/2014 11:15 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote:
Did this make us like Jesus?
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
it was simon westl*A*ke before josh l*U*thman.
Amazon does it their way.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/30/2014 10:53 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
W comes before L? Blasphemy.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 30, 2014 1:49 PM, Simon Westlake via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
I got mine literally 30 seconds ago, I think they are going out slowly.
On 12/30/2014 12:40 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
Haven't seen mine as of 10 minutes ago
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 30, 2014 1:28 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Can you let us know when they're finished sending out so we know if
ours is lost?
~Seth
--
Simon Westlake
Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS
powercode.com
P: 920-351-1010
E: si...@powercode.com
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
On 12/30/14 11:15, That One Guy via Af wrote: Did this make us like Jesus?
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
We clicked on our verification email, no problem, but the folks who might miss this, are on vacation, don't read emails every day, etc, will the have any indication that their message wasn't sent aside from not seeing it on the list? Ie, will they get a bounce or anything? Just curious. Thanks for all you do Paul! See what happens when you put down the trumpet and actually work a day or twohee hee - Original Message - From: Paul McCall via Af To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Thanks Chuck! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon My verification subject was: Amazon SES Address Verification Request in region US East (N. Virginia) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Curtis Brotherton via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Here comes the Amazon Verification Email … Click the link in the email, and that will verify your email address as valid with Amazon. I will be flipping the switch tomorrow that restores the headers to display the actual person and email address of the sender (which also fixes the threading)J === Curtis Brotherton PDMNet (772) 564-6800 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Well…… As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it. There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers. That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list J In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the “Amazon verified email” method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email. This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend “stuff” just like we want it to.) The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn’t pull the trigger on the switchover. Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. Here’s what will happen…. All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address. The verification emails are good for 24 hours only. The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can’t change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc. Probably on Friday, we will turn on “normal headers”. If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. We will monitor the changes closely and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly. It’s important. Follow the instructions please. Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
