Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?
We use all the above, depending on the POP. We've found they are all reliable as long as the GPS antenna is in a decent location. We have one syncpipe that loses sync about once a month, but we're certain it's because of the poor location we're using for the GPS antenna. bp On 1/30/2015 6:15 AM, Darren Shea wrote: TJ, We’ve seen occasional issues with the ePMP APs in the field losing the sync-over-power pulse from SyncInjectors and CTM-2Ms, and Cambium responded to my trouble ticket with the following: “There has been extensive discussion/testing here regarding supported/compatible third party Sync/power sources for ePMP APs. We noticed sync compatibility issues when using packetflux sync injectors.” My advice is to deploy with the puck antenna and use it as your primary sync source, and keep the SyncInjector oprerational as a backup. The onboard GPS seems to be stable, and appears to be less likely to make your customers call you complaining, “the Internet is down!” - Darren *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? Any advantges to using sync Injectors or Cmm for epmp or is the puck just as good ?
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?
We have had some of our longer runs (280ft+) have occasional problems with all of the sync over power sources… sometimes its great for a couple weeks, months then stops, sometimes no go from the beginning, sometimes everything perfect. The longer runs, at times, will definitely “stress” the dynamics of SOP in any environment. Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? I've been 100% fine with 100 meg and CMM sync from the gig syncinjector. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 30, 2015 10:18 AM, "Nate Burke" mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote: It's been a couple months, but I think It persisted with 1G and 100m, I do have it set to 100m now, but I'm pretty sure to get it to completely clear up, I had to disable the Sync on the Sync Injector. On 1/30/2015 9:14 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Was it gig? I had gig problems all over so I just set my rb2011 to 100 meg. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 30, 2015 10:12 AM, "Nate Burke" mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote: I have the Puck deployed on all radios. I have 1 site that is Syncing off the Puck, but powered via a sync injector. I was having ethernet issues (interface bouncing/negotiation) until I disabled Sync on that port in the Sync Injector. It's been fine since. On 1/30/2015 9:07 AM, Paul McCall wrote: We are installing both and using CMM, CTM, SyncInjectors until something stops working S.O.P. and then have the pucks to use to get us by. Saved us many tower climbs already. As a rule, we keep the back to back APs on the same sync source (SOP or puck) and that seems to work fine, even with the other 2 back to back APs on the original SOP sync source. Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:23 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? So Cambium is basically telling people not to use SyncInjectors? Funny. I haven't heard that one before. Josh On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Darren Shea mailto:darr...@ecpi.com>> wrote: TJ, We’ve seen occasional issues with the ePMP APs in the field losing the sync-over-power pulse from SyncInjectors and CTM-2Ms, and Cambium responded to my trouble ticket with the following: “There has been extensive discussion/testing here regarding supported/compatible third party Sync/power sources for ePMP APs. We noticed sync compatibility issues when using packetflux sync injectors.” My advice is to deploy with the puck antenna and use it as your primary sync source, and keep the SyncInjector oprerational as a backup. The onboard GPS seems to be stable, and appears to be less likely to make your customers call you complaining, “the Internet is down!” -Darren From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:23 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? Any advantges to using sync Injectors or Cmm for epmp or is the puck just as good ?
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?
I've been 100% fine with 100 meg and CMM sync from the gig syncinjector. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 30, 2015 10:18 AM, "Nate Burke" wrote: > It's been a couple months, but I think It persisted with 1G and 100m, I > do have it set to 100m now, but I'm pretty sure to get it to completely > clear up, I had to disable the Sync on the Sync Injector. > > > On 1/30/2015 9:14 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Was it gig? I had gig problems all over so I just set my rb2011 to 100 > meg. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Jan 30, 2015 10:12 AM, "Nate Burke" wrote: > >> I have the Puck deployed on all radios. I have 1 site that is Syncing >> off the Puck, but powered via a sync injector. I was having ethernet >> issues (interface bouncing/negotiation) until I disabled Sync on that port >> in the Sync Injector. It's been fine since. >> >> >> On 1/30/2015 9:07 AM, Paul McCall wrote: >> >> We are installing both and using CMM, CTM, SyncInjectors until >> something stops working S.O.P. and then have the pucks to use to get us >> by. Saved us many tower climbs already. As a rule, we keep the back to >> back APs on the same sync source (SOP or puck) and that seems to work fine, >> even with the other 2 back to back APs on the original SOP sync source. >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On >> Behalf Of *Josh Baird >> *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 9:23 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? >> >> >> >> So Cambium is basically telling people not to use SyncInjectors? Funny. >> >> >> >> I haven't heard that one before. >> >> >> >> Josh >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Darren Shea wrote: >> >> TJ, >> >>We’ve seen occasional issues with the ePMP APs in the field losing the >> sync-over-power pulse from SyncInjectors and CTM-2Ms, and Cambium responded >> to my trouble ticket with the following: “There has been extensive >> discussion/testing here regarding supported/compatible third party >> Sync/power sources for ePMP APs. We noticed sync compatibility issues when >> using packetflux sync injectors.” >> >> >> >> My advice is to deploy with the puck antenna and use it as your primary >> sync source, and keep the SyncInjector oprerational as a backup. The >> onboard GPS seems to be stable, and appears to be less likely to make your >> customers call you complaining, “the Internet is down!” >> >> >> >> -Darren >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:23 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? >> >> >> >> Any advantges to using sync Injectors or Cmm for epmp or is the puck just >> as good ? >> >> >> >> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?
It's been a couple months, but I think It persisted with 1G and 100m, I do have it set to 100m now, but I'm pretty sure to get it to completely clear up, I had to disable the Sync on the Sync Injector. On 1/30/2015 9:14 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Was it gig? I had gig problems all over so I just set my rb2011 to 100 meg. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 30, 2015 10:12 AM, "Nate Burke" <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote: I have the Puck deployed on all radios. I have 1 site that is Syncing off the Puck, but powered via a sync injector. I was having ethernet issues (interface bouncing/negotiation) until I disabled Sync on that port in the Sync Injector. It's been fine since. On 1/30/2015 9:07 AM, Paul McCall wrote: We are installing both and using CMM, CTM, SyncInjectors until something stops working S.O.P. and then have the pucks to use to get us by. Saved us many tower climbs already. As a rule, we keep the back to back APs on the same sync source (SOP or puck) and that seems to work fine, even with the other 2 back to back APs on the original SOP sync source. Paul *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 9:23 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? So Cambium is basically telling people not to use SyncInjectors? Funny. I haven't heard that one before. Josh On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Darren Shea mailto:darr...@ecpi.com>> wrote: TJ, We’ve seen occasional issues with the ePMP APs in the field losing the sync-over-power pulse from SyncInjectors and CTM-2Ms, and Cambium responded to my trouble ticket with the following: “There has been extensive discussion/testing here regarding supported/compatible third party Sync/power sources for ePMP APs. We noticed sync compatibility issues when using packetflux sync injectors.” My advice is to deploy with the puck antenna and use it as your primary sync source, and keep the SyncInjector oprerational as a backup. The onboard GPS seems to be stable, and appears to be less likely to make your customers call you complaining, “the Internet is down!” - Darren *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? Any advantges to using sync Injectors or Cmm for epmp or is the puck just as good ?
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?
Was it gig? I had gig problems all over so I just set my rb2011 to 100 meg. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 30, 2015 10:12 AM, "Nate Burke" wrote: > I have the Puck deployed on all radios. I have 1 site that is Syncing > off the Puck, but powered via a sync injector. I was having ethernet > issues (interface bouncing/negotiation) until I disabled Sync on that port > in the Sync Injector. It's been fine since. > > > On 1/30/2015 9:07 AM, Paul McCall wrote: > > We are installing both and using CMM, CTM, SyncInjectors until something > stops working S.O.P. and then have the pucks to use to get us by. Saved us > many tower climbs already. As a rule, we keep the back to back APs on the > same sync source (SOP or puck) and that seems to work fine, even with the > other 2 back to back APs on the original SOP sync source. > > > > Paul > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Josh Baird > *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 9:23 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? > > > > So Cambium is basically telling people not to use SyncInjectors? Funny. > > > > I haven't heard that one before. > > > > Josh > > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Darren Shea wrote: > > TJ, > >We’ve seen occasional issues with the ePMP APs in the field losing the > sync-over-power pulse from SyncInjectors and CTM-2Ms, and Cambium responded > to my trouble ticket with the following: “There has been extensive > discussion/testing here regarding supported/compatible third party > Sync/power sources for ePMP APs. We noticed sync compatibility issues when > using packetflux sync injectors.” > > > > My advice is to deploy with the puck antenna and use it as your primary > sync source, and keep the SyncInjector oprerational as a backup. The > onboard GPS seems to be stable, and appears to be less likely to make your > customers call you complaining, “the Internet is down!” > > > > - Darren > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout > *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:23 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? > > > > Any advantges to using sync Injectors or Cmm for epmp or is the puck just > as good ? > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?
I have the Puck deployed on all radios. I have 1 site that is Syncing off the Puck, but powered via a sync injector. I was having ethernet issues (interface bouncing/negotiation) until I disabled Sync on that port in the Sync Injector. It's been fine since. On 1/30/2015 9:07 AM, Paul McCall wrote: We are installing both and using CMM, CTM, SyncInjectors until something stops working S.O.P. and then have the pucks to use to get us by. Saved us many tower climbs already. As a rule, we keep the back to back APs on the same sync source (SOP or puck) and that seems to work fine, even with the other 2 back to back APs on the original SOP sync source. Paul *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 9:23 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? So Cambium is basically telling people not to use SyncInjectors? Funny. I haven't heard that one before. Josh On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Darren Shea <mailto:darr...@ecpi.com>> wrote: TJ, We’ve seen occasional issues with the ePMP APs in the field losing the sync-over-power pulse from SyncInjectors and CTM-2Ms, and Cambium responded to my trouble ticket with the following: “There has been extensive discussion/testing here regarding supported/compatible third party Sync/power sources for ePMP APs. We noticed sync compatibility issues when using packetflux sync injectors.” My advice is to deploy with the puck antenna and use it as your primary sync source, and keep the SyncInjector oprerational as a backup. The onboard GPS seems to be stable, and appears to be less likely to make your customers call you complaining, “the Internet is down!” - Darren *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? Any advantges to using sync Injectors or Cmm for epmp or is the puck just as good ?
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?
We are installing both and using CMM, CTM, SyncInjectors until something stops working S.O.P. and then have the pucks to use to get us by. Saved us many tower climbs already. As a rule, we keep the back to back APs on the same sync source (SOP or puck) and that seems to work fine, even with the other 2 back to back APs on the original SOP sync source. Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? So Cambium is basically telling people not to use SyncInjectors? Funny. I haven't heard that one before. Josh On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Darren Shea mailto:darr...@ecpi.com>> wrote: TJ, We’ve seen occasional issues with the ePMP APs in the field losing the sync-over-power pulse from SyncInjectors and CTM-2Ms, and Cambium responded to my trouble ticket with the following: “There has been extensive discussion/testing here regarding supported/compatible third party Sync/power sources for ePMP APs. We noticed sync compatibility issues when using packetflux sync injectors.” My advice is to deploy with the puck antenna and use it as your primary sync source, and keep the SyncInjector oprerational as a backup. The onboard GPS seems to be stable, and appears to be less likely to make your customers call you complaining, “the Internet is down!” -Darren From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:23 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? Any advantges to using sync Injectors or Cmm for epmp or is the puck just as good ?
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?
So Cambium is basically telling people not to use SyncInjectors? Funny. I haven't heard that one before. Josh On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Darren Shea wrote: > TJ, > >We’ve seen occasional issues with the ePMP APs in the field losing the > sync-over-power pulse from SyncInjectors and CTM-2Ms, and Cambium responded > to my trouble ticket with the following: “There has been extensive > discussion/testing here regarding supported/compatible third party > Sync/power sources for ePMP APs. We noticed sync compatibility issues when > using packetflux sync injectors.” > > > > My advice is to deploy with the puck antenna and use it as your primary > sync source, and keep the SyncInjector oprerational as a backup. The > onboard GPS seems to be stable, and appears to be less likely to make your > customers call you complaining, “the Internet is down!” > > > > -Darren > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout > *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:23 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? > > > > Any advantges to using sync Injectors or Cmm for epmp or is the puck just > as good ? >
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?
TJ, We’ve seen occasional issues with the ePMP APs in the field losing the sync-over-power pulse from SyncInjectors and CTM-2Ms, and Cambium responded to my trouble ticket with the following: “There has been extensive discussion/testing here regarding supported/compatible third party Sync/power sources for ePMP APs. We noticed sync compatibility issues when using packetflux sync injectors.” My advice is to deploy with the puck antenna and use it as your primary sync source, and keep the SyncInjector oprerational as a backup. The onboard GPS seems to be stable, and appears to be less likely to make your customers call you complaining, “the Internet is down!” -Darren From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? Any advantges to using sync Injectors or Cmm for epmp or is the puck just as good ?
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?
Generally the same. Some say you want to have one sync source. I think it's worth it to use a Packetflux. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 29, 2015 9:23 PM, "TJ Trout" wrote: > Any advantges to using sync Injectors or Cmm for epmp or is the puck just > as good ? >
[AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?
Any advantges to using sync Injectors or Cmm for epmp or is the puck just as good ?
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?
Use both, have redundancy. Any advantges to using sync Injectors or Cmm for epmp or is the puck just as good ?