Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in
paul should dress ad bob the builder and do some marketing "can paul fix it, yes he can" On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: > Paul, he is :) > > Now it's 3rd person, as Yoda, LOL > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:07 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in > > Talking about ourselves in the third person we are. > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:45 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in > > Or buy a replacement from Paul :) cheap > > He has tons (literally) of used FSK gear > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:57 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in > > I've seen it too. Send it to Paul or buy a replacement. > > Chuck McCown wrote: > > I am guessing some kind of ESD protection component shorted (if you > > are lucky). Removing the part would fix the problem. But if it is a > > logic input fried, that chip will have to be replace. Paul is your > > guy for this kind of stuff. > > > > -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof > > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:50 AM > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in > > > > I haven't had that happen on an AP, but I've had it happen on SMs. > > Probably > > the problem occurred awhile ago and only got revealed when the AP > > rebooted. > > I opened one of the SMs up thinking there was crud across the pins on > > the jack, but no, and no amount of cleaning with alcohol would fix it. > > I also seem to remember Paul from PDMNet confirming it's not as simple > > as something shorting the pins on the jack. So it's repairable, but > > probably some component needs to be replaced. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Baird > > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:31 AM > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in > > > > I'm pretty sure I've seen this question posted before, but I don't > > recall the verdict. We had a power outage last night that outlasted > > the batteries at a tower. When the power finally came back on, one AP > > didn't come back. > > Further investigation revealed that it seems to think there is a > > default plug in it, but there isn't. I've checked the default plug > > jack and there is nothing foreign in it, and the pins all appear > > normal. I've tried booting it with an actual default plug in it, and > > then rebooting with it out, thinking that perhaps that would reset > > something, but no dice. Is there some way to recover the radio when > > this happens? > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in
Paul, he is :) Now it's 3rd person, as Yoda, LOL -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in Talking about ourselves in the third person we are. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in Or buy a replacement from Paul :) cheap He has tons (literally) of used FSK gear -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in I've seen it too. Send it to Paul or buy a replacement. Chuck McCown wrote: > I am guessing some kind of ESD protection component shorted (if you > are lucky). Removing the part would fix the problem. But if it is a > logic input fried, that chip will have to be replace. Paul is your > guy for this kind of stuff. > > -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:50 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in > > I haven't had that happen on an AP, but I've had it happen on SMs. > Probably > the problem occurred awhile ago and only got revealed when the AP > rebooted. > I opened one of the SMs up thinking there was crud across the pins on > the jack, but no, and no amount of cleaning with alcohol would fix it. > I also seem to remember Paul from PDMNet confirming it's not as simple > as something shorting the pins on the jack. So it's repairable, but > probably some component needs to be replaced. > > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Baird > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:31 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in > > I'm pretty sure I've seen this question posted before, but I don't > recall the verdict. We had a power outage last night that outlasted > the batteries at a tower. When the power finally came back on, one AP > didn't come back. > Further investigation revealed that it seems to think there is a > default plug in it, but there isn't. I've checked the default plug > jack and there is nothing foreign in it, and the pins all appear > normal. I've tried booting it with an actual default plug in it, and > then rebooting with it out, thinking that perhaps that would reset > something, but no dice. Is there some way to recover the radio when > this happens? > > Craig > > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in
Talking about ourselves in the third person we are. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in Or buy a replacement from Paul :) cheap He has tons (literally) of used FSK gear -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in I've seen it too. Send it to Paul or buy a replacement. Chuck McCown wrote: > I am guessing some kind of ESD protection component shorted (if you > are lucky). Removing the part would fix the problem. But if it is a > logic input fried, that chip will have to be replace. Paul is your > guy for this kind of stuff. > > -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:50 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in > > I haven't had that happen on an AP, but I've had it happen on SMs. > Probably > the problem occurred awhile ago and only got revealed when the AP > rebooted. > I opened one of the SMs up thinking there was crud across the pins on > the jack, but no, and no amount of cleaning with alcohol would fix it. > I also seem to remember Paul from PDMNet confirming it's not as simple > as something shorting the pins on the jack. So it's repairable, but > probably some component needs to be replaced. > > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Baird > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:31 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in > > I'm pretty sure I've seen this question posted before, but I don't recall > the verdict. We had a power outage last night that outlasted the > batteries > at a tower. When the power finally came back on, one AP didn't come > back. > Further investigation revealed that it seems to think there is a default > plug in it, but there isn't. I've checked the default plug jack and > there > is nothing foreign in it, and the pins all appear normal. I've tried > booting it with an actual default plug in it, and then rebooting with it > out, thinking that perhaps that would reset something, but no dice. Is > there some way to recover the radio when this happens? > > Craig > > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in
Just buy a couple replacements, shipping costs are a noticeable cost next to them now. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 27, 2016 9:45 AM, "Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: > Or buy a replacement from Paul :) cheap > > He has tons (literally) of used FSK gear > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:57 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in > > I've seen it too. Send it to Paul or buy a replacement. > > Chuck McCown wrote: > > I am guessing some kind of ESD protection component shorted (if you > > are lucky). Removing the part would fix the problem. But if it is a > > logic input fried, that chip will have to be replace. Paul is your > > guy for this kind of stuff. > > > > -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof > > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:50 AM > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in > > > > I haven't had that happen on an AP, but I've had it happen on SMs. > > Probably > > the problem occurred awhile ago and only got revealed when the AP > > rebooted. > > I opened one of the SMs up thinking there was crud across the pins on > > the jack, but no, and no amount of cleaning with alcohol would fix it. > > I also seem to remember Paul from PDMNet confirming it's not as simple > > as something shorting the pins on the jack. So it's repairable, but > > probably some component needs to be replaced. > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Baird > > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:31 AM > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in > > > > I'm pretty sure I've seen this question posted before, but I don't recall > > the verdict. We had a power outage last night that outlasted the > > batteries > > at a tower. When the power finally came back on, one AP didn't come > > back. > > Further investigation revealed that it seems to think there is a default > > plug in it, but there isn't. I've checked the default plug jack and > > there > > is nothing foreign in it, and the pins all appear normal. I've tried > > booting it with an actual default plug in it, and then rebooting with it > > out, thinking that perhaps that would reset something, but no dice. Is > > there some way to recover the radio when this happens? > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in
Or buy a replacement from Paul :) cheap He has tons (literally) of used FSK gear -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in I've seen it too. Send it to Paul or buy a replacement. Chuck McCown wrote: > I am guessing some kind of ESD protection component shorted (if you > are lucky). Removing the part would fix the problem. But if it is a > logic input fried, that chip will have to be replace. Paul is your > guy for this kind of stuff. > > -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:50 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in > > I haven't had that happen on an AP, but I've had it happen on SMs. > Probably > the problem occurred awhile ago and only got revealed when the AP > rebooted. > I opened one of the SMs up thinking there was crud across the pins on > the jack, but no, and no amount of cleaning with alcohol would fix it. > I also seem to remember Paul from PDMNet confirming it's not as simple > as something shorting the pins on the jack. So it's repairable, but > probably some component needs to be replaced. > > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Baird > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:31 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in > > I'm pretty sure I've seen this question posted before, but I don't recall > the verdict. We had a power outage last night that outlasted the > batteries > at a tower. When the power finally came back on, one AP didn't come > back. > Further investigation revealed that it seems to think there is a default > plug in it, but there isn't. I've checked the default plug jack and > there > is nothing foreign in it, and the pins all appear normal. I've tried > booting it with an actual default plug in it, and then rebooting with it > out, thinking that perhaps that would reset something, but no dice. Is > there some way to recover the radio when this happens? > > Craig > > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in
I've seen it too. Send it to Paul or buy a replacement. Chuck McCown wrote: I am guessing some kind of ESD protection component shorted (if you are lucky). Removing the part would fix the problem. But if it is a logic input fried, that chip will have to be replace. Paul is your guy for this kind of stuff. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in I haven't had that happen on an AP, but I've had it happen on SMs. Probably the problem occurred awhile ago and only got revealed when the AP rebooted. I opened one of the SMs up thinking there was crud across the pins on the jack, but no, and no amount of cleaning with alcohol would fix it. I also seem to remember Paul from PDMNet confirming it's not as simple as something shorting the pins on the jack. So it's repairable, but probably some component needs to be replaced. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Baird Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in I'm pretty sure I've seen this question posted before, but I don't recall the verdict. We had a power outage last night that outlasted the batteries at a tower. When the power finally came back on, one AP didn't come back. Further investigation revealed that it seems to think there is a default plug in it, but there isn't. I've checked the default plug jack and there is nothing foreign in it, and the pins all appear normal. I've tried booting it with an actual default plug in it, and then rebooting with it out, thinking that perhaps that would reset something, but no dice. Is there some way to recover the radio when this happens? Craig
Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in
I've had it happen on P10 boards. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 1:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in I had a 5700BH20 with over a year uptime. Same thing, power went out and it was default plugged when it booted back up. Yeah, in that year it could've been an ESD event that killed the diode or whatever it is that goes bad. We had this happening enough that I asked Cambium to allow us to override/ignore the default plug, but that never went anywhere. Kinda moot now since 13.4.1 is the end of the yellow brick road. The P8 and P9 boards had this happen frequently. P10 and P11's almost never. FSK isn't even worth getting fixed anymore. Just buy some cheap used radios for spares and send the bad ones to the round filing cabinet. That's what we've been doing for two years now. On 9/26/2016 11:54 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I am guessing some kind of ESD protection component shorted (if you > are lucky). Removing the part would fix the problem. But if it is a > logic input fried, that chip will have to be replace. Paul is your > guy for this kind of stuff. > > -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:50 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in > > I haven't had that happen on an AP, but I've had it happen on SMs. > Probably > the problem occurred awhile ago and only got revealed when the AP > rebooted. > I opened one of the SMs up thinking there was crud across the pins on > the jack, but no, and no amount of cleaning with alcohol would fix it. > I also seem to remember Paul from PDMNet confirming it's not as simple > as something shorting the pins on the jack. So it's repairable, but > probably some component needs to be replaced. > > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Baird > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:31 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in > > I'm pretty sure I've seen this question posted before, but I don't recall > the verdict. We had a power outage last night that outlasted the > batteries > at a tower. When the power finally came back on, one AP didn't come > back. > Further investigation revealed that it seems to think there is a default > plug in it, but there isn't. I've checked the default plug jack and > there > is nothing foreign in it, and the pins all appear normal. I've tried > booting it with an actual default plug in it, and then rebooting with it > out, thinking that perhaps that would reset something, but no dice. Is > there some way to recover the radio when this happens? > > Craig > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in
I had a 5700BH20 with over a year uptime. Same thing, power went out and it was default plugged when it booted back up. Yeah, in that year it could've been an ESD event that killed the diode or whatever it is that goes bad. We had this happening enough that I asked Cambium to allow us to override/ignore the default plug, but that never went anywhere. Kinda moot now since 13.4.1 is the end of the yellow brick road. The P8 and P9 boards had this happen frequently. P10 and P11's almost never. FSK isn't even worth getting fixed anymore. Just buy some cheap used radios for spares and send the bad ones to the round filing cabinet. That's what we've been doing for two years now. On 9/26/2016 11:54 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I am guessing some kind of ESD protection component shorted (if you are lucky). Removing the part would fix the problem. But if it is a logic input fried, that chip will have to be replace. Paul is your guy for this kind of stuff. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in I haven't had that happen on an AP, but I've had it happen on SMs. Probably the problem occurred awhile ago and only got revealed when the AP rebooted. I opened one of the SMs up thinking there was crud across the pins on the jack, but no, and no amount of cleaning with alcohol would fix it. I also seem to remember Paul from PDMNet confirming it's not as simple as something shorting the pins on the jack. So it's repairable, but probably some component needs to be replaced. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Baird Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in I'm pretty sure I've seen this question posted before, but I don't recall the verdict. We had a power outage last night that outlasted the batteries at a tower. When the power finally came back on, one AP didn't come back. Further investigation revealed that it seems to think there is a default plug in it, but there isn't. I've checked the default plug jack and there is nothing foreign in it, and the pins all appear normal. I've tried booting it with an actual default plug in it, and then rebooting with it out, thinking that perhaps that would reset something, but no dice. Is there some way to recover the radio when this happens? Craig
Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in
I am guessing some kind of ESD protection component shorted (if you are lucky). Removing the part would fix the problem. But if it is a logic input fried, that chip will have to be replace. Paul is your guy for this kind of stuff. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in I haven't had that happen on an AP, but I've had it happen on SMs. Probably the problem occurred awhile ago and only got revealed when the AP rebooted. I opened one of the SMs up thinking there was crud across the pins on the jack, but no, and no amount of cleaning with alcohol would fix it. I also seem to remember Paul from PDMNet confirming it's not as simple as something shorting the pins on the jack. So it's repairable, but probably some component needs to be replaced. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Baird Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in I'm pretty sure I've seen this question posted before, but I don't recall the verdict. We had a power outage last night that outlasted the batteries at a tower. When the power finally came back on, one AP didn't come back. Further investigation revealed that it seems to think there is a default plug in it, but there isn't. I've checked the default plug jack and there is nothing foreign in it, and the pins all appear normal. I've tried booting it with an actual default plug in it, and then rebooting with it out, thinking that perhaps that would reset something, but no dice. Is there some way to recover the radio when this happens? Craig
Re: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in
I haven't had that happen on an AP, but I've had it happen on SMs. Probably the problem occurred awhile ago and only got revealed when the AP rebooted. I opened one of the SMs up thinking there was crud across the pins on the jack, but no, and no amount of cleaning with alcohol would fix it. I also seem to remember Paul from PDMNet confirming it's not as simple as something shorting the pins on the jack. So it's repairable, but probably some component needs to be replaced. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Baird Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 11:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in I'm pretty sure I've seen this question posted before, but I don't recall the verdict. We had a power outage last night that outlasted the batteries at a tower. When the power finally came back on, one AP didn't come back. Further investigation revealed that it seems to think there is a default plug in it, but there isn't. I've checked the default plug jack and there is nothing foreign in it, and the pins all appear normal. I've tried booting it with an actual default plug in it, and then rebooting with it out, thinking that perhaps that would reset something, but no dice. Is there some way to recover the radio when this happens? Craig
[AFMUG] FSK AP thinks default plug is in
I'm pretty sure I've seen this question posted before, but I don't recall the verdict. We had a power outage last night that outlasted the batteries at a tower. When the power finally came back on, one AP didn't come back. Further investigation revealed that it seems to think there is a default plug in it, but there isn't. I've checked the default plug jack and there is nothing foreign in it, and the pins all appear normal. I've tried booting it with an actual default plug in it, and then rebooting with it out, thinking that perhaps that would reset something, but no dice. Is there some way to recover the radio when this happens? Craig
