Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done
You used a gin pole for that? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Installed 2.4GHz omni with Rocket 2. A Nanobeam AC. 120 Degree sector > with M5 and 45 Degree sector with Rocket ACi moved all sectors to the > top... > > Jaime Solorza >
Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done
To add a section. Yes i did Jaime Solorza On Oct 27, 2015 2:47 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > You used a gin pole for that? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> Installed 2.4GHz omni with Rocket 2. A Nanobeam AC. 120 Degree sector >> with M5 and 45 Degree sector with Rocket ACi moved all sectors to the >> top... >> >> Jaime Solorza >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done
Oh that makes more sense =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > To add a section. Yes i did > > Jaime Solorza > On Oct 27, 2015 2:47 PM, "Josh Luthman" > wrote: > >> You used a gin pole for that? >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza > > wrote: >> >>> Installed 2.4GHz omni with Rocket 2. A Nanobeam AC. 120 Degree sector >>> with M5 and 45 Degree sector with Rocket ACi moved all sectors to the >>> top... >>> >>> Jaime Solorza >>> >> >>
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Good...I am glad it did...got to site 945 and done by 12my son was ground crew along with client. My son in a climber as well. Jaime Solorza On Oct 27, 2015 2:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Jaime Solorza > On Oct 27, 2015 2:49 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote: > >> To add a section. Yes i did >> >> Jaime Solorza >> On Oct 27, 2015 2:47 PM, "Josh Luthman" >> wrote: >> >>> You used a gin pole for that? >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza < >>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Installed 2.4GHz omni with Rocket 2. A Nanobeam AC. 120 Degree sector with M5 and 45 Degree sector with Rocket ACi moved all sectors to the top... Jaime Solorza >>> >>>
Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done
my guys would have taken 2 days to assemble, one day to put up the section, a half a day to load the gear in the van, which would make it too late to hang the gear, theyd get out by noon the next day to hang it, get half done by 4, even though we quit at 5, another day to finish installing, and id have to send them back the next day because they forgot it needed cables On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Oh that makes more sense =P > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> To add a section. Yes i did >> >> Jaime Solorza >> On Oct 27, 2015 2:47 PM, "Josh Luthman" >> wrote: >> >>> You used a gin pole for that? >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza < >>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Installed 2.4GHz omni with Rocket 2. A Nanobeam AC. 120 Degree sector with M5 and 45 Degree sector with Rocket ACi moved all sectors to the top... Jaime Solorza >>> >>> > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done
Sounds like they need to unionize. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done my guys would have taken 2 days to assemble, one day to put up the section, a half a day to load the gear in the van, which would make it too late to hang the gear, theyd get out by noon the next day to hang it, get half done by 4, even though we quit at 5, another day to finish installing, and id have to send them back the next day because they forgot it needed cables On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: Oh that makes more sense =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote: To add a section. Yes i did Jaime Solorza On Oct 27, 2015 2:47 PM, "Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: You used a gin pole for that? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote: Installed 2.4GHz omni with Rocket 2. A Nanobeam AC. 120 Degree sector with M5 and 45 Degree sector with Rocket ACi moved all sectors to the top... Jaime Solorza -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. Total Control Panel Login<https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net> To: ja...@litewire.net<https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net> From: 0150ab14df34-d2e26598-8520-4383-95ef-425a782d20d7-000...@amazonses.com<mailto:0150ab14df34-d2e26598-8520-4383-95ef-425a782d20d7-000...@amazonses.com> Remove<https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=3&un-wl-sender-domain=1&hID=12863761035&domain=litewire.net> amazonses.com from my allow list You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow list.
Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done
jesus christ are you fucking nuts, could you imagine that attitude with union backing? On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:00 PM, James Howard wrote: > Sounds like they need to unionize. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy > /sarcasm > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:55 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done > > > > my guys would have taken 2 days to assemble, one day to put up the > section, a half a day to load the gear in the van, which would make it too > late to hang the gear, theyd get out by noon the next day to hang it, get > half done by 4, even though we quit at 5, another day to finish installing, > and id have to send them back the next day because they forgot it needed > cables > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > > Oh that makes more sense =P > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > > To add a section. Yes i did > > Jaime Solorza > > On Oct 27, 2015 2:47 PM, "Josh Luthman" > wrote: > > You used a gin pole for that? > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > > Installed 2.4GHz omni with Rocket 2. A Nanobeam AC. 120 Degree sector > with M5 and 45 Degree sector with Rocket ACi moved all sectors to the > top... > > Jaime Solorza > > > > > > > > > > -- > > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > -- > > *Total Control Panel* > > Login <https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net> > > To: ja...@litewire.net > <https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net> > > From: > 0150ab14df34-d2e26598-8520-4383-95ef-425a782d20d7-000...@amazonses.com > > Remove > <https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=3&un-wl-sender-domain=1&hID=12863761035&domain=litewire.net> > amazonses.com from my allow list > > *You received this message because the domain amazonses.com > <http://amazonses.com> is on your allow list.* > > > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
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I thought that was the typical union attitude. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done jesus christ are you fucking nuts, could you imagine that attitude with union backing? On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:00 PM, James Howard mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> wrote: Sounds like they need to unionize. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:55 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done my guys would have taken 2 days to assemble, one day to put up the section, a half a day to load the gear in the van, which would make it too late to hang the gear, theyd get out by noon the next day to hang it, get half done by 4, even though we quit at 5, another day to finish installing, and id have to send them back the next day because they forgot it needed cables On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: Oh that makes more sense =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote: To add a section. Yes i did Jaime Solorza On Oct 27, 2015 2:47 PM, "Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: You used a gin pole for that? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote: Installed 2.4GHz omni with Rocket 2. A Nanobeam AC. 120 Degree sector with M5 and 45 Degree sector with Rocket ACi moved all sectors to the top... Jaime Solorza -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. Total Control Panel Login<https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net> To: ja...@litewire.net<https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net> From: 0150ab14df34-d2e26598-8520-4383-95ef-425a782d20d7-000...@amazonses.com<mailto:0150ab14df34-d2e26598-8520-4383-95ef-425a782d20d7-000...@amazonses.com> Remove<https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=3&un-wl-sender-domain=1&hID=12863761035&domain=litewire.net> amazonses.com<http://amazonses.com> from my allow list You received this message because the domain amazonses.com<http://amazonses.com> is on your allow list. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. Total Control Panel Login<https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net> To: ja...@litewire.net<https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net> From: 0150ab1b6f7a-fc17d00c-66a8-48a9-a5db-0f06089ee0ba-000...@amazonses.com Remove<https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=3&un-wl-sender-domain=1&hID=12863847486&domain=litewire.net> amazonses.com from my allow list You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow list.
Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done
Jaime, is that second, wider sector the AC 45degree one? That thing is wide! -Ty -Ty On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Jaime Solorza > On Oct 27, 2015 2:49 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote: > >> To add a section. Yes i did >> >> Jaime Solorza >> On Oct 27, 2015 2:47 PM, "Josh Luthman" >> wrote: >> >>> You used a gin pole for that? >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza < >>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Installed 2.4GHz omni with Rocket 2. A Nanobeam AC. 120 Degree sector with M5 and 45 Degree sector with Rocket ACi moved all sectors to the top... Jaime Solorza >>> >>>
Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done
Yes. It is and has an uptilt... Jaime Solorza On Oct 27, 2015 3:19 PM, "Ty Featherling" wrote: > Jaime, is that second, wider sector the AC 45degree one? That thing is > wide! > > -Ty > > > > -Ty > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> Jaime Solorza >> On Oct 27, 2015 2:49 PM, "Jaime Solorza" >> wrote: >> >>> To add a section. Yes i did >>> >>> Jaime Solorza >>> On Oct 27, 2015 2:47 PM, "Josh Luthman" >>> wrote: >>> You used a gin pole for that? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: > Installed 2.4GHz omni with Rocket 2. A Nanobeam AC. 120 Degree sector > with M5 and 45 Degree sector with Rocket ACi moved all sectors to the > top... > > Jaime Solorza > >
Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done
Hurt still out on it. Let you what client funds out.. I am just tower monkey on this one. I did put him in touch with Ben so he can work on firmware and beta testing. Jaime Solorza On Oct 27, 2015 3:25 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Yes. It is and has an uptilt... > > Jaime Solorza > On Oct 27, 2015 3:19 PM, "Ty Featherling" wrote: > >> Jaime, is that second, wider sector the AC 45degree one? That thing is >> wide! >> >> -Ty >> >> >> >> -Ty >> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Jaime Solorza > > wrote: >> >>> Jaime Solorza >>> On Oct 27, 2015 2:49 PM, "Jaime Solorza" >>> wrote: >>> To add a section. Yes i did Jaime Solorza On Oct 27, 2015 2:47 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > You used a gin pole for that? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza < > losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Installed 2.4GHz omni with Rocket 2. A Nanobeam AC. 120 Degree >> sector with M5 and 45 Degree sector with Rocket ACi moved all sectors >> to the top... >> >> Jaime Solorza >> > > >>
Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done
My first job out of college was at the manufacturing arm of GTE. It was a union shop, even the secretaries were union. I was an engineer and non union, but we got whatever COL increase the union got. Every couple years the contract would come up for renewal, and the whole factory would work overtime to stockpile enough product for a 2 week strike. Then there would be a strike, which was like a vacation for the workers, who had all that overtime money banked. Then the union would settle for pretty much the original offer, and everyone would go back to work. One year while I was there, there was no strike. So there had to be a 2 week layoff while they worked off all that inventory they had stockpiled. I guess it worked out the same in the end. As a new guy, I got my hand slapped a couple times. Had to learn not to give typing to a secretary, that went to a clerk-typist. And one time I took off a wallplate to check if the outlet was grounded, and nearly had a union grievance. From: James Howard Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done I thought that was the typical union attitude. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done jesus christ are you fucking nuts, could you imagine that attitude with union backing? On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:00 PM, James Howard wrote: Sounds like they need to unionize. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done my guys would have taken 2 days to assemble, one day to put up the section, a half a day to load the gear in the van, which would make it too late to hang the gear, theyd get out by noon the next day to hang it, get half done by 4, even though we quit at 5, another day to finish installing, and id have to send them back the next day because they forgot it needed cables On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Oh that makes more sense =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: To add a section. Yes i did Jaime Solorza On Oct 27, 2015 2:47 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: You used a gin pole for that? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Installed 2.4GHz omni with Rocket 2. A Nanobeam AC. 120 Degree sector with M5 and 45 Degree sector with Rocket ACi moved all sectors to the top... Jaime Solorza -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. Total Control Panel Login To: ja...@litewire.net From: 0150ab14df34-d2e26598-8520-4383-95ef-425a782d20d7-000...@amazonses.com Remove amazonses.com from my allow list You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow list. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. Total Control Panel Login To: ja...@litewire.net From: 0150ab1b6f7a-fc17d00c-66a8-48a9-a5db-0f06089ee0ba-000...@amazonses.com Remove amazonses.com from my allow list You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow list.
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In U Penn in Philadelphia, you can't even turn on a light switch in a classroom if it isn't on. That is the job of the union electrician. On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > My first job out of college was at the manufacturing arm of GTE. It was a > union shop, even the secretaries were union. I was an engineer and non > union, but we got whatever COL increase the union got. > > Every couple years the contract would come up for renewal, and the whole > factory would work overtime to stockpile enough product for a 2 week > strike. Then there would be a strike, which was like a vacation for the > workers, who had all that overtime money banked. Then the union would > settle for pretty much the original offer, and everyone would go back to > work. > > One year while I was there, there was no strike. So there had to be a 2 > week layoff while they worked off all that inventory they had stockpiled. > I guess it worked out the same in the end. > > As a new guy, I got my hand slapped a couple times. Had to learn not to > give typing to a secretary, that went to a clerk-typist. And one time I > took off a wallplate to check if the outlet was grounded, and nearly had a > union grievance. > > *From:* James Howard > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:15 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done > > > I thought that was the typical union attitude. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy > /sarcasm > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:02 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done > > > > jesus christ are you fucking nuts, could you imagine that attitude with > union backing? > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:00 PM, James Howard wrote: > > Sounds like they need to unionize. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy > /sarcasm > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:55 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done > > > > my guys would have taken 2 days to assemble, one day to put up the > section, a half a day to load the gear in the van, which would make it too > late to hang the gear, theyd get out by noon the next day to hang it, get > half done by 4, even though we quit at 5, another day to finish installing, > and id have to send them back the next day because they forgot it needed > cables > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > > Oh that makes more sense =P > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > > To add a section. Yes i did > > Jaime Solorza > > On Oct 27, 2015 2:47 PM, "Josh Luthman" > wrote: > > You used a gin pole for that? > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > > Installed 2.4GHz omni with Rocket 2. A Nanobeam AC. 120 Degree sector > with M5 and 45 Degree sector with Rocket ACi moved all sectors to the > top... > > Jaime Solorza > > > > > > > > > > -- > > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > -- > > *Total Control Panel* > > Login <https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net> > > To: ja...@litewire.net > <https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net> > > From: > 0150ab14df34-d2e26598-8520-4383-95ef-425a782d20d7-000...@amazonses.com > > Remove > <https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=3&un-wl-sender-domain=1&hID=12863761035&domain=litewire.net> > amazonses.com from my allow list > > *You received this message because the domain amazonses.com > <http://amazonses.com> is on your allow list.* > > > > > > > > -- > > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > -- > > *Total Control Panel* > > Login <https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net> > > To: ja...@litewire.net > <https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net> > > From: > 0150ab1b6f7a-fc17d00c-66a8-48a9-a5db-0f06089ee0ba-000...@amazonses.com > > Remove > <https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=3&un-wl-sender-domain=1&hID=12863847486&domain=litewire.net> > amazonses.com from my allow list > > *You received this message because the domain amazonses.com > <http://amazonses.com> is on your allow list.* > > >
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I fire them from that job and they become janitor or window washers LOL On 10/27/2015 4:01 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: jesus christ are you fucking nuts, could you imagine that attitude with union backing? On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:00 PM, James Howard <mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> wrote: Sounds like they need to unionize. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy /sarcasm *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done my guys would have taken 2 days to assemble, one day to put up the section, a half a day to load the gear in the van, which would make it too late to hang the gear, theyd get out by noon the next day to hang it, get half done by 4, even though we quit at 5, another day to finish installing, and id have to send them back the next day because they forgot it needed cables On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: Oh that makes more sense =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote: To add a section. Yes i did Jaime Solorza On Oct 27, 2015 2:47 PM, "Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: You used a gin pole for that? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote: Installed 2.4GHz omni with Rocket 2. A Nanobeam AC. 120 Degree sector with M5 and 45 Degree sector with Rocket ACi moved all sectors to the top... Jaime Solorza -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. *Total Control Panel* Login <https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net> To: ja...@litewire.net <https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net> From: 0150ab14df34-d2e26598-8520-4383-95ef-425a782d20d7-000...@amazonses.com <mailto:0150ab14df34-d2e26598-8520-4383-95ef-425a782d20d7-000...@amazonses.com> Remove <https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=3&un-wl-sender-domain=1&hID=12863761035&domain=litewire.net> amazonses.com <http://amazonses.com> from my allow list /You received this message because the domain amazonses.com <http://amazonses.com> is on your allow list./ -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. --
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Reminds me of the Boeing shop that had to use electricians to turn on welders. The welders could not start and top their own machine. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done My first job out of college was at the manufacturing arm of GTE. It was a union shop, even the secretaries were union. I was an engineer and non union, but we got whatever COL increase the union got. Every couple years the contract would come up for renewal, and the whole factory would work overtime to stockpile enough product for a 2 week strike. Then there would be a strike, which was like a vacation for the workers, who had all that overtime money banked. Then the union would settle for pretty much the original offer, and everyone would go back to work. One year while I was there, there was no strike. So there had to be a 2 week layoff while they worked off all that inventory they had stockpiled. I guess it worked out the same in the end. As a new guy, I got my hand slapped a couple times. Had to learn not to give typing to a secretary, that went to a clerk-typist. And one time I took off a wallplate to check if the outlet was grounded, and nearly had a union grievance. From: James Howard Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done I thought that was the typical union attitude. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done jesus christ are you fucking nuts, could you imagine that attitude with union backing? On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:00 PM, James Howard wrote: Sounds like they need to unionize. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done my guys would have taken 2 days to assemble, one day to put up the section, a half a day to load the gear in the van, which would make it too late to hang the gear, theyd get out by noon the next day to hang it, get half done by 4, even though we quit at 5, another day to finish installing, and id have to send them back the next day because they forgot it needed cables On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Oh that makes more sense =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: To add a section. Yes i did Jaime Solorza On Oct 27, 2015 2:47 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: You used a gin pole for that? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Installed 2.4GHz omni with Rocket 2. A Nanobeam AC. 120 Degree sector with M5 and 45 Degree sector with Rocket ACi moved all sectors to the top... Jaime Solorza -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. Total Control Panel Login To: ja...@litewire.net From: 0150ab14df34-d2e26598-8520-4383-95ef-425a782d20d7-000...@amazonses.com Remove amazonses.com from my allow list You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow list. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. Total Control Panel Login To: ja...@litewire.net From: 0150ab1b6f7a-fc17d00c-66a8-48a9-a5db-0f06089ee0ba-000...@amazonses.com Remove amazonses.com from my allow list You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow list.
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A friend of mine worked for a very large telco as an non-represented IT guy working on local LANs. One of his co-workers was friendly with an IBEW telco guy and let him watch the install of a Cisco 2500 series router with a T1. IBEW declared that work to be Union work. They demanded, and got, the previous 7 years of hourly pay that !2! Union employees would have gotten for ALL the router installs nationwide. Not a single Union member got any part of those monies. :( They tried to make it so Union members would need to plug and unplug hard drives inside machines after a nonunion person unscrewed and opened them. Silly Union things. I am the son of a Union mason/carpenter. I love wearing my grandfathers 50 year IBEW pin when I go to the power company to talk about poles. ;) eyes bug out. ryan -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294 425-939-0047 > On Oct 27, 2015, at 14:44, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > My first job out of college was at the manufacturing arm of GTE. It was a > union shop, even the secretaries were union. I was an engineer and non > union, but we got whatever COL increase the union got. > > Every couple years the contract would come up for renewal, and the whole > factory would work overtime to stockpile enough product for a 2 week strike. > Then there would be a strike, which was like a vacation for the workers, who > had all that overtime money banked. Then the union would settle for pretty > much the original offer, and everyone would go back to work. > > One year while I was there, there was no strike. So there had to be a 2 week > layoff while they worked off all that inventory they had stockpiled. I guess > it worked out the same in the end. > > As a new guy, I got my hand slapped a couple times. Had to learn not to give > typing to a secretary, that went to a clerk-typist. And one time I took off > a wallplate to check if the outlet was grounded, and nearly had a union > grievance. > > From: James Howard > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:15 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done > > I thought that was the typical union attitude. > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:02 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done > > jesus christ are you fucking nuts, could you imagine that attitude with union > backing? > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:00 PM, James Howard wrote: > Sounds like they need to unionize. > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:55 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done > > my guys would have taken 2 days to assemble, one day to put up the section, a > half a day to load the gear in the van, which would make it too late to hang > the gear, theyd get out by noon the next day to hang it, get half done by 4, > even though we quit at 5, another day to finish installing, and id have to > send them back the next day because they forgot it needed cables > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > Oh that makes more sense =P > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > To add a section. Yes i did > > Jaime Solorza > > On Oct 27, 2015 2:47 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > You used a gin pole for that? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > Installed 2.4GHz omni with Rocket 2. A Nanobeam AC. 120 Degree sector with > M5 and 45 Degree sector with Rocket ACi moved all sectors to the top... > > Jaime Solorza > > > > > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > Total Control Panel > Login > To: ja...@litewire.net > From: > 0150ab14df34-d2e26598-8520-4383-95ef-425a782d20d7-000...@amazonses.com > Remove amazonses.com from my allow list > You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow > list. > > > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > Total Control Panel > Login > To: ja...@litewire.net > From: > 0150ab1b6f7a-fc17d00c-66a8-48a9-a5db-0f06089ee0ba-000...@amazonses.com > Remove amazonses.com from my allow list > You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow > list. >
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I have seen so many companies get destroyed by unions that are out of control .. not a fan of unions at all personally … From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 12:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done A friend of mine worked for a very large telco as an non-represented IT guy working on local LANs. One of his co-workers was friendly with an IBEW telco guy and let him watch the install of a Cisco 2500 series router with a T1. IBEW declared that work to be Union work. They demanded, and got, the previous 7 years of hourly pay that !2! Union employees would have gotten for ALL the router installs nationwide. Not a single Union member got any part of those monies. :( They tried to make it so Union members would need to plug and unplug hard drives inside machines after a nonunion person unscrewed and opened them. Silly Union things. I am the son of a Union mason/carpenter. I love wearing my grandfathers 50 year IBEW pin when I go to the power company to talk about poles. ;) eyes bug out. ryan -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294 425-939-0047 On Oct 27, 2015, at 14:44, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: My first job out of college was at the manufacturing arm of GTE. It was a union shop, even the secretaries were union. I was an engineer and non union, but we got whatever COL increase the union got. Every couple years the contract would come up for renewal, and the whole factory would work overtime to stockpile enough product for a 2 week strike. Then there would be a strike, which was like a vacation for the workers, who had all that overtime money banked. Then the union would settle for pretty much the original offer, and everyone would go back to work. One year while I was there, there was no strike. So there had to be a 2 week layoff while they worked off all that inventory they had stockpiled. I guess it worked out the same in the end. As a new guy, I got my hand slapped a couple times. Had to learn not to give typing to a secretary, that went to a clerk-typist. And one time I took off a wallplate to check if the outlet was grounded, and nearly had a union grievance. From: James Howard <mailto:ja...@litewire.net> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:15 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done I thought that was the typical union attitude. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:02 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done jesus christ are you fucking nuts, could you imagine that attitude with union backing? On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:00 PM, James Howard mailto:ja...@litewire.net> > wrote: Sounds like they need to unionize. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:55 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done my guys would have taken 2 days to assemble, one day to put up the section, a half a day to load the gear in the van, which would make it too late to hang the gear, theyd get out by noon the next day to hang it, get half done by 4, even though we quit at 5, another day to finish installing, and id have to send them back the next day because they forgot it needed cables On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: Oh that makes more sense =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: To add a section. Yes i did Jaime Solorza On Oct 27, 2015 2:47 PM, "Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: You used a gin pole for that? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: Installed 2.4GHz omni with Rocket 2. A Nanobeam AC. 120 Degree sector with M5 and 45 Degree sector with Rocket ACi moved all sectors to the top... Jaime Solorza -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. _ Total Control Panel Login <https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net> To: ja...@litewire.net <https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net> From: 0150ab14df34-d2e26598-8520-4383-95ef-425a782d20d7-000...@amazonses.com <m
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Friday a friend who had our service before we sold described his experience having Verizon fiber installed. He said it took a ton of people and about 10 weeks. According to him: 1 to trench the duct from the hand hold to the end of the ROW 2 to trench the duct from the ROW to the entry point 1 to run duct from the entry point to end point 2 to run the fiber in said ducts 1 to terminate the fiber 1 to plug it in 1 to turn it on and configure it. On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:01 AM, D. Ryan Spott wrote: > A friend of mine worked for a very large telco as an non-represented IT > guy working on local LANs. > > One of his co-workers was friendly with an IBEW telco guy and let him > watch the install of a Cisco 2500 series router with a T1. > > IBEW declared that work to be Union work. They demanded, and got, the > previous 7 years of hourly pay that !2! Union employees would have gotten > for ALL the router installs nationwide. Not a single Union member got any > part of those monies. :( > > They tried to make it so Union members would need to plug and unplug hard > drives inside machines after a nonunion person unscrewed and opened them. > > Silly Union things. I am the son of a Union mason/carpenter. I love > wearing my grandfathers 50 year IBEW pin when I go to the power company to > talk about poles. ;) eyes bug out. > > ryan > > -- > D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc > broadband | telco | colo | communities > PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294 > 425-939-0047 > > On Oct 27, 2015, at 14:44, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > My first job out of college was at the manufacturing arm of GTE. It was a > union shop, even the secretaries were union. I was an engineer and non > union, but we got whatever COL increase the union got. > > Every couple years the contract would come up for renewal, and the whole > factory would work overtime to stockpile enough product for a 2 week > strike. Then there would be a strike, which was like a vacation for the > workers, who had all that overtime money banked. Then the union would > settle for pretty much the original offer, and everyone would go back to > work. > > One year while I was there, there was no strike. So there had to be a 2 > week layoff while they worked off all that inventory they had stockpiled. > I guess it worked out the same in the end. > > As a new guy, I got my hand slapped a couple times. Had to learn not to > give typing to a secretary, that went to a clerk-typist. And one time I > took off a wallplate to check if the outlet was grounded, and nearly had a > union grievance. > > *From:* James Howard > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:15 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done > > > I thought that was the typical union attitude. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On > Behalf Of *That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:02 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done > > > > jesus christ are you fucking nuts, could you imagine that attitude with > union backing? > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:00 PM, James Howard wrote: > > Sounds like they need to unionize. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy > /sarcasm > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:55 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done > > > > my guys would have taken 2 days to assemble, one day to put up the > section, a half a day to load the gear in the van, which would make it too > late to hang the gear, theyd get out by noon the next day to hang it, get > half done by 4, even though we quit at 5, another day to finish installing, > and id have to send them back the next day because they forgot it needed > cables > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > > Oh that makes more sense =P > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > > To add a section. Yes i did > > Jaime Solorza > > On Oct 27, 2015 2:47 PM, "Josh Luthman" > wrote: > > You used a gin pole for that? > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > > Installed 2.4GHz omni with Rocket 2. A Nanobeam AC. 120 Degree sector > with M5 and 45 Degree sector with Rocket ACi moved all sectors to the > top... > > Jaime Solorza > > > > > > > > > > -- >
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We have a manufacturer here, they had 2 plants, one here, one in mexico. The union was always a problem, they went on strike, half the guys were in the bar when they were supposed to be on strike duty laughing about it. It came to a point the company told the union, either give a little or we will close the doors, in true union fashion, the union dug in. The plant closed. It was shortly bought up by another company ( I assume the trail of ownership leads back to the same owners) which opened up, offered the union guys their jobs back, with cuts of course, in a non union shop. The majority of them refused. A lot of those guys ended up losing their homes when the unemployment extensions ran out. That's the union mentality. UAW recently got the new staff to vote on organizing, luckily, most of the staff there now are younger guys who didn't grow up in the nonsense of a union shop and overwhelmingly voted it down. One other plant here when I was in my teens went on an 18 month strike, there were roads everybody knew not to drive on because these winners kept dropping nails (they did something with them to ensure they weren't technically jackrocks) That plant never has recovered, its like something around 18% union, the rest was all legally replaced with outsourced staff since even the unions cant protect your job when you don't show up to it for a year and a half. I heard that early next year theyre laying off another 200 I reroofed that plant one year. looking from the top down at the campus, it really used to be something, now the whole facility is in decay, two whole subdivisions in this town were built solely to house these employees, now both are one crack dealer away from being ghettos.. thanks unions On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > Friday a friend who had our service before we sold described his > experience having Verizon fiber installed. He said it took a ton of people > and about 10 weeks. According to him: > 1 to trench the duct from the hand hold to the end of the ROW > 2 to trench the duct from the ROW to the entry point > 1 to run duct from the entry point to end point > 2 to run the fiber in said ducts > 1 to terminate the fiber > 1 to plug it in > 1 to turn it on and configure it. > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:01 AM, D. Ryan Spott wrote: > >> A friend of mine worked for a very large telco as an non-represented IT >> guy working on local LANs. >> >> One of his co-workers was friendly with an IBEW telco guy and let him >> watch the install of a Cisco 2500 series router with a T1. >> >> IBEW declared that work to be Union work. They demanded, and got, the >> previous 7 years of hourly pay that !2! Union employees would have gotten >> for ALL the router installs nationwide. Not a single Union member got any >> part of those monies. :( >> >> They tried to make it so Union members would need to plug and unplug hard >> drives inside machines after a nonunion person unscrewed and opened them. >> >> Silly Union things. I am the son of a Union mason/carpenter. I love >> wearing my grandfathers 50 year IBEW pin when I go to the power company to >> talk about poles. ;) eyes bug out. >> >> ryan >> >> -- >> D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc >> broadband | telco | colo | communities >> PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294 >> 425-939-0047 >> >> On Oct 27, 2015, at 14:44, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> My first job out of college was at the manufacturing arm of GTE. It was >> a union shop, even the secretaries were union. I was an engineer and non >> union, but we got whatever COL increase the union got. >> >> Every couple years the contract would come up for renewal, and the whole >> factory would work overtime to stockpile enough product for a 2 week >> strike. Then there would be a strike, which was like a vacation for the >> workers, who had all that overtime money banked. Then the union would >> settle for pretty much the original offer, and everyone would go back to >> work. >> >> One year while I was there, there was no strike. So there had to be a 2 >> week layoff while they worked off all that inventory they had stockpiled. >> I guess it worked out the same in the end. >> >> As a new guy, I got my hand slapped a couple times. Had to learn not to >> give typing to a secretary, that went to a clerk-typist. And one time I >> took off a wallplate to check if the outlet was grounded, and nearly had a >> union grievance. >> >> *From:* James Howard >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:15 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Getting it done >> >> >> I thought that was the typical union atti
