Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?
What degree antenna are you using at the site? What type of noise floor and SM signals? We are moving away from 900 on our network but I spent a lot of time managing our 900 connections in the past and got pretty creative in the ways we squeezed more out of it. Best regards, Brandon Yuchasz GogebicRange.net www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Gray Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 3:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise? I was really hoping to buy some time on these customers with high re-registrations. It looks like I just need to find a new band. I can't cut down my frequency list since it is a remote site and I sometimes need to swap channels just to get a radio to register at all. Time try some 2.4 at this spot. On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: Like primary channel and backup channels? Seems like they could store in RAM what the most recently connected channel was, and scan that channel a few times before going through the whole scan list. Seems like it would reduce the service impact of a re-reg. Just sayin Is Aaron Schneider listening today? -- Original Message -- From: "Matt" <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Sent: 8/10/2016 6:06:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise? If you go into the affected SM and disable all channels except for the one the AP is on then it will register faster. This doesn't stop the re-reging but makes it less noticeable. I'm generally against that because then you can't change channels, but sometimes you do what you have to do. I really wish Canopy had a feature to only scan certain channels for X minutes, if unable to register in that time frame switch to another bigger channel group to scan. That way if you are forced too switch to a different channel and width due to interference etc. you can at least get your SM's back on the AP.
Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?
Had another site today that popped up with -60 noise floor across the
band with -45 peaks once in a while. Smart meters everywhere. And they
haven't even started collecting data yet. And most of this is areas
where, nope, sorry, you gotta cut down trees to get even satellite. I'm
so f'n done with 900.
On 8/11/2016 3:38 PM, Christopher Gray wrote:
I was really hoping to buy some time on these customers with high
re-registrations. It looks like I just need to find a new band. I
can't cut down my frequency list since it is a remote site and I
sometimes need to swap channels just to get a radio to register at all.
Time try some 2.4 at this spot.
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Like primary channel and backup channels?
Seems like they could store in RAM what the most recently
connected channel was, and scan that channel a few times before
going through the whole scan list. Seems like it would reduce the
service impact of a re-reg. Just sayin
Is Aaron Schneider listening today?
-- Original Message --
From: "Matt" <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
<mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>>
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 8/10/2016 6:06:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?
If you go into the affected SM and disable all channels
except for the one
the AP is on then it will register faster. This doesn't
stop the re-reging
but makes it less noticeable.
I'm generally against that because then you can't change
channels, but
sometimes you do what you have to do.
I really wish Canopy had a feature to only scan certain
channels for X
minutes, if unable to register in that time frame switch to
another
bigger channel group to scan. That way if you are forced too
switch
to a different channel and width due to interference etc. you
can at
least get your SM's back on the AP.
Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?
I was really hoping to buy some time on these customers with high re-registrations. It looks like I just need to find a new band. I can't cut down my frequency list since it is a remote site and I sometimes need to swap channels just to get a radio to register at all. Time try some 2.4 at this spot. On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > Like primary channel and backup channels? > > Seems like they could store in RAM what the most recently connected > channel was, and scan that channel a few times before going through the > whole scan list. Seems like it would reduce the service impact of a > re-reg. Just sayin > Is Aaron Schneider listening today? > > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Matt" <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> > To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Sent: 8/10/2016 6:06:34 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise? > > If you go into the affected SM and disable all channels except for the one >>> the AP is on then it will register faster. This doesn't stop the >>> re-reging >>> but makes it less noticeable. >>> >>> I'm generally against that because then you can't change channels, but >>> sometimes you do what you have to do. >>> >> >> I really wish Canopy had a feature to only scan certain channels for X >> minutes, if unable to register in that time frame switch to another >> bigger channel group to scan. That way if you are forced too switch >> to a different channel and width due to interference etc. you can at >> least get your SM's back on the AP. >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?
Like primary channel and backup channels? Seems like they could store in RAM what the most recently connected channel was, and scan that channel a few times before going through the whole scan list. Seems like it would reduce the service impact of a re-reg. Just sayin Is Aaron Schneider listening today? -- Original Message -- From: "Matt" <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Sent: 8/10/2016 6:06:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise? If you go into the affected SM and disable all channels except for the one the AP is on then it will register faster. This doesn't stop the re-reging but makes it less noticeable. I'm generally against that because then you can't change channels, but sometimes you do what you have to do. I really wish Canopy had a feature to only scan certain channels for X minutes, if unable to register in that time frame switch to another bigger channel group to scan. That way if you are forced too switch to a different channel and width due to interference etc. you can at least get your SM's back on the AP.
Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?
I could be wrong, but I seem to remember that (a) transmit frame spreading only helps if interference is from another Canopy system and you both turn it on, and (b) they said it wasn’t applicable to 900 MHz for some reason. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 2:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise? I used to hear of transmit frame spreading, but i think that went away long long ago - Original Message - From: Christopher Gray To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:05 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise? Is there a setting or combination of settings for the PMP100 900 MHz hardware that would help it remain connected in higher intermittent noise environments? [Perhaps something that increases retries at the expense of latency?] Thank you - Chris
Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?
> If you go into the affected SM and disable all channels except for the one > the AP is on then it will register faster. This doesn't stop the re-reging > but makes it less noticeable. > > I'm generally against that because then you can't change channels, but > sometimes you do what you have to do. I really wish Canopy had a feature to only scan certain channels for X minutes, if unable to register in that time frame switch to another bigger channel group to scan. That way if you are forced too switch to a different channel and width due to interference etc. you can at least get your SM's back on the AP.
Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?
You could try a cavity, pager or band-pass filter if all else fails. On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Christopher Gray < cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote: > Is there a setting or combination of settings for the PMP100 900 MHz > hardware that would help it remain connected in higher intermittent noise > environments? [Perhaps something that increases retries at the expense of > latency?] > > Thank you - Chris >
Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?
until we do a channel change and they can't connect anymore. bad idea IMHO - Original Message - From: Jay Weekley To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise? I hadn't thought of speeding up the re-reg process by unchecking the channels. That may help bandaid some of our customers a bit. Adam Moffett wrote: > If you go into the affected SM and disable all channels except for the > one the AP is on then it will register faster. This doesn't stop the > re-reging but makes it less noticeable. > I'm generally against that because then you can't change channels, but > sometimes you do what you have to do. > -- Original Message -- > From: "Christopher Gray" <cg...@graytechsoftware.com > <mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com>> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Sent: 8/10/2016 2:05:05 PM > Subject: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise? >> Is there a setting or combination of settings for the PMP100 900 MHz >> hardware that would help it remain connected in higher intermittent >> noise environments? [Perhaps something that increases retries at the >> expense of latency?] >> >> Thank you - Chris
Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?
I used to hear of transmit frame spreading, but i think that went away long long ago - Original Message - From: Christopher Gray To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:05 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise? Is there a setting or combination of settings for the PMP100 900 MHz hardware that would help it remain connected in higher intermittent noise environments? [Perhaps something that increases retries at the expense of latency?] Thank you - Chris
Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?
I hadn't thought of speeding up the re-reg process by unchecking the channels. That may help bandaid some of our customers a bit. Adam Moffett wrote: If you go into the affected SM and disable all channels except for the one the AP is on then it will register faster. This doesn't stop the re-reging but makes it less noticeable. I'm generally against that because then you can't change channels, but sometimes you do what you have to do. -- Original Message -- From: "Christopher Gray" <cg...@graytechsoftware.com <mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 8/10/2016 2:05:05 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise? Is there a setting or combination of settings for the PMP100 900 MHz hardware that would help it remain connected in higher intermittent noise environments? [Perhaps something that increases retries at the expense of latency?] Thank you - Chris
Re: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise?
If you go into the affected SM and disable all channels except for the one the AP is on then it will register faster. This doesn't stop the re-reging but makes it less noticeable. I'm generally against that because then you can't change channels, but sometimes you do what you have to do. -- Original Message -- From: "Christopher Gray" <cg...@graytechsoftware.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/10/2016 2:05:05 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Increase PMP100 900 MHz Stability in High Noise? Is there a setting or combination of settings for the PMP100 900 MHz hardware that would help it remain connected in higher intermittent noise environments? [Perhaps something that increases retries at the expense of latency?] Thank you - Chris
