[AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?
Can I safely setup an 11ghz radio (Mimosa B11, in this case) on the bench without attaching it to the dish, or is there a risk it'll damage the radio? I seem to remember being told it was fine to turn on our SAFs without dishes, and I'm assuming these would be the same, but that was a long time ago...
Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?
if it's a waveguide interface, so it should be fine. Have done that with several brands. bp On 9/23/2016 8:27 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: Can I safely setup an 11ghz radio (Mimosa B11, in this case) on the bench without attaching it to the dish, or is there a risk it'll damage the radio? I seem to remember being told it was fine to turn on our SAFs without dishes, and I'm assuming these would be the same, but that was a long time ago...
Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?
SAF had the square thing that bolts right up to the antenna. Does the Mimosa have the same? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Can I safely setup an 11ghz radio (Mimosa B11, in this case) on the bench > without attaching it to the dish, or is there a risk it'll damage the radio? > > I seem to remember being told it was fine to turn on our SAFs without > dishes, and I'm assuming these would be the same, but that was a long time > ago... >
Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?
It's a bit different, but it is a waveguide interface, so I'm thinking it should be fine. On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > SAF had the square thing that bolts right up to the antenna. Does the > Mimosa have the same? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Mathew Howard > wrote: > >> Can I safely setup an 11ghz radio (Mimosa B11, in this case) on the bench >> without attaching it to the dish, or is there a risk it'll damage the radio? >> >> I seem to remember being told it was fine to turn on our SAFs without >> dishes, and I'm assuming these would be the same, but that was a long time >> ago... >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?
SAF recommended having a box of paper between the two units. I'd do that or similar, I used a concrete wall. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > It's a bit different, but it is a waveguide interface, so I'm thinking it > should be fine. > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Josh Luthman < > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > >> SAF had the square thing that bolts right up to the antenna. Does the >> Mimosa have the same? >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Mathew Howard >> wrote: >> >>> Can I safely setup an 11ghz radio (Mimosa B11, in this case) on the >>> bench without attaching it to the dish, or is there a risk it'll damage the >>> radio? >>> >>> I seem to remember being told it was fine to turn on our SAFs without >>> dishes, and I'm assuming these would be the same, but that was a long time >>> ago... >>> >> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?
Yes. Open waveguides are also known as “10 dBi antennas”. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:27 AM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna? Can I safely setup an 11ghz radio (Mimosa B11, in this case) on the bench without attaching it to the dish, or is there a risk it'll damage the radio? I seem to remember being told it was fine to turn on our SAFs without dishes, and I'm assuming these would be the same, but that was a long time ago...
Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?
you should be fine.. put them side by side next to or close to each other. don't point them at each other... and they come with power turned down 6db .. Just don't forget to set the power as per your coordination when you are mounting / before you are trying to align. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Mathew Howard" > To: "af" > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 11:27:11 AM > Subject: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna? > Can I safely setup an 11ghz radio (Mimosa B11, in this case) on the bench > without attaching it to the dish, or is there a risk it'll damage the radio? > I seem to remember being told it was fine to turn on our SAFs without dishes, > and I'm assuming these would be the same, but that was a long time ago...
Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?
Yep, I do that frequently. Just point them up at the ceiling. I usually
leave the power where it's coordinated and rarely see it hotter than -40
or so.
A local chemical company coordinated an 800 yard (really!?) 11GHz link.
Their coordinated Rx was like -25dBm. Uh, OK. I forget what it was,
maybe a PTP820.
On 9/23/2016 10:57 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
you should be fine..
put them side by side next to or close to each other.
don't point them at each other...
and they come with power turned down 6db ..
Just don't forget to set the power as per your coordination when you
are mounting / before you are trying to align.
:)
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
*From: *"Mathew Howard"
*To: *"af"
*Sent: *Friday, September 23, 2016 11:27:11 AM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an
antenna?
Can I safely setup an 11ghz radio (Mimosa B11, in this case) on
the bench without attaching it to the dish, or is there a risk
it'll damage the radio?
I seem to remember being told it was fine to turn on our SAFs
without dishes, and I'm assuming these would be the same, but that
was a long time ago...
Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?
An 800 yard 11 GHz link? Really? If ever there was a scenario that called for a 60 or 80 GHz radio system...Or if they absolutely insisted that a part 101 licensed link was necessary, 23 GHz and 1' antennas. On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:08 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Yep, I do that frequently. Just point them up at the ceiling. I usually > leave the power where it's coordinated and rarely see it hotter than -40 or > so. > > A local chemical company coordinated an 800 yard (really!?) 11GHz link. > Their coordinated Rx was like -25dBm. Uh, OK. I forget what it was, maybe a > PTP820. > > > On 9/23/2016 10:57 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > > you should be fine.. > > put them side by side next to or close to each other. > don't point them at each other... > and they come with power turned down 6db .. > > Just don't forget to set the power as per your coordination when you are > mounting / before you are trying to align. > > :) > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > ------ > > *From: *"Mathew Howard" > *To: *"af" > *Sent: *Friday, September 23, 2016 11:27:11 AM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an > antenna? > > Can I safely setup an 11ghz radio (Mimosa B11, in this case) on the bench > without attaching it to the dish, or is there a risk it'll damage the radio? > > I seem to remember being told it was fine to turn on our SAFs without > dishes, and I'm assuming these would be the same, but that was a long time > ago... > > >
Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?
Maybe it's easier for them to keep spares if every link is the same equipment. -- Original Message -- From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 9/23/2016 3:16:55 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna? An 800 yard 11 GHz link? Really? If ever there was a scenario that called for a 60 or 80 GHz radio system...Or if they absolutely insisted that a part 101 licensed link was necessary, 23 GHz and 1' antennas. On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:08 PM, George Skorup wrote: Yep, I do that frequently. Just point them up at the ceiling. I usually leave the power where it's coordinated and rarely see it hotter than -40 or so. A local chemical company coordinated an 800 yard (really!?) 11GHz link. Their coordinated Rx was like -25dBm. Uh, OK. I forget what it was, maybe a PTP820. On 9/23/2016 10:57 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: you should be fine.. put them side by side next to or close to each other. don't point them at each other... and they come with power turned down 6db .. Just don't forget to set the power as per your coordination when you are mounting / before you are trying to align. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: "Mathew Howard" mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com To: "af" mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 11:27:11 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna? Can I safely setup an 11ghz radio (Mimosa B11, in this case) on the bench without attaching it to the dish, or is there a risk it'll damage the radio? I seem to remember being told it was fine to turn on our SAFs without dishes, and I'm assuming these would be the same, but that was a long time ago...
Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?
They have like eleventy billion $, I'm sure they can afford some spares.
On 9/23/2016 2:41 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Maybe it's easier for them to keep spares if every link is the same
equipment.
-- Original Message --
From: "Eric Kuhnke" mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>>
To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 9/23/2016 3:16:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an
antenna?
An 800 yard 11 GHz link? Really? If ever there was a scenario that
called for a 60 or 80 GHz radio system...Or if they absolutely
insisted that a part 101 licensed link was necessary, 23 GHz and 1'
antennas.
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:08 PM, George Skorup <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
Yep, I do that frequently. Just point them up at the ceiling. I
usually leave the power where it's coordinated and rarely see it
hotter than -40 or so.
A local chemical company coordinated an 800 yard (really!?) 11GHz
link. Their coordinated Rx was like -25dBm. Uh, OK. I forget what
it was, maybe a PTP820.
On 9/23/2016 10:57 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
you should be fine..
put them side by side next to or close to each other.
don't point them at each other...
and they come with power turned down 6db ..
Just don't forget to set the power as per your coordination when
you are mounting / before you are trying to align.
:)
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
supp...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>
*From: *"Mathew Howard" mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com
*To: *"af" mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, September 23, 2016 11:27:11 AM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio
without an antenna?
Can I safely setup an 11ghz radio (Mimosa B11, in this case)
on the bench without attaching it to the dish, or is there a
risk it'll damage the radio?
I seem to remember being told it was fine to turn on our
SAFs without dishes, and I'm assuming these would be the
same, but that was a long time ago...
Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?
80GHz is Part 101… Daniel White Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales ConVergence Technologies Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <mailto:dwh...@converge-tech.com> dwh...@converge-tech.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna? An 800 yard 11 GHz link? Really? If ever there was a scenario that called for a 60 or 80 GHz radio system...Or if they absolutely insisted that a part 101 licensed link was necessary, 23 GHz and 1' antennas. On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:08 PM, George Skorup mailto:geo...@cbcast.com> > wrote: Yep, I do that frequently. Just point them up at the ceiling. I usually leave the power where it's coordinated and rarely see it hotter than -40 or so. A local chemical company coordinated an 800 yard (really!?) 11GHz link. Their coordinated Rx was like -25dBm. Uh, OK. I forget what it was, maybe a PTP820. On 9/23/2016 10:57 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: you should be fine.. put them side by side next to or close to each other. don't point them at each other... and they come with power turned down 6db .. Just don't forget to set the power as per your coordination when you are mounting / before you are trying to align. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> _ From: "Mathew Howard" <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> To: "af" <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 11:27:11 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna? Can I safely setup an 11ghz radio (Mimosa B11, in this case) on the bench without attaching it to the dish, or is there a risk it'll damage the radio? I seem to remember being told it was fine to turn on our SAFs without dishes, and I'm assuming these would be the same, but that was a long time ago... --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?
I think I would have ran fiber.
From: Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?
An 800 yard 11 GHz link? Really? If ever there was a scenario that called for
a 60 or 80 GHz radio system...Or if they absolutely insisted that a part
101 licensed link was necessary, 23 GHz and 1' antennas.
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:08 PM, George Skorup wrote:
Yep, I do that frequently. Just point them up at the ceiling. I usually leave
the power where it's coordinated and rarely see it hotter than -40 or so.
A local chemical company coordinated an 800 yard (really!?) 11GHz link. Their
coordinated Rx was like -25dBm. Uh, OK. I forget what it was, maybe a PTP820.
On 9/23/2016 10:57 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
you should be fine..
put them side by side next to or close to each other.
don't point them at each other...
and they come with power turned down 6db ..
Just don't forget to set the power as per your coordination when you are
mounting / before you are trying to align.
:)
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
From: "Mathew Howard" mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com
To: "af" mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 11:27:11 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?
Can I safely setup an 11ghz radio (Mimosa B11, in this case) on the bench
without attaching it to the dish, or is there a risk it'll damage the radio?
I seem to remember being told it was fine to turn on our SAFs without
dishes, and I'm assuming these would be the same, but that was a long time
ago...
Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?
Well... I meant the traditional coordination process part 101 such as for a new 23 GHz link, not "get a blanket license and self report all your new links which you can use immediately". On Sep 23, 2016 1:34 PM, "Daniel White" wrote: > 80GHz is Part 101… > > > > Daniel White > > Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales > > ConVergence Technologies > > Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 > > dwh...@converge-tech.com > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke > *Sent:* Friday, September 23, 2016 1:17 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an > antenna? > > > > An 800 yard 11 GHz link? Really? If ever there was a scenario that > called for a 60 or 80 GHz radio system...Or if they absolutely insisted > that a part 101 licensed link was necessary, 23 GHz and 1' antennas. > > > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:08 PM, George Skorup wrote: > > Yep, I do that frequently. Just point them up at the ceiling. I usually > leave the power where it's coordinated and rarely see it hotter than -40 or > so. > > A local chemical company coordinated an 800 yard (really!?) 11GHz link. > Their coordinated Rx was like -25dBm. Uh, OK. I forget what it was, maybe a > PTP820. > > > > On 9/23/2016 10:57 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > > you should be fine.. > > > > put them side by side next to or close to each other. > > don't point them at each other... > > and they come with power turned down 6db .. > > > > Just don't forget to set the power as per your coordination when you are > mounting / before you are trying to align. > > > > :) > > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > > -- > > *From: *"Mathew Howard" > *To: *"af" > *Sent: *Friday, September 23, 2016 11:27:11 AM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an > antenna? > > Can I safely setup an 11ghz radio (Mimosa B11, in this case) on the bench > without attaching it to the dish, or is there a risk it'll damage the radio? > > I seem to remember being told it was fine to turn on our SAFs without > dishes, and I'm assuming these would be the same, but that was a long time > ago... > > > > > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/en-us/lp-safe-emailing-2270-a?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2270-a> > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/en-us/lp-safe-emailing-2270-a?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2270-a> >
