Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question
I'm not. The question was for input for our own managed wifi at IgniteNet. Of course anyone can use the info to make their products better too! On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 1:37 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Harold, what is your affiliation with cambium? > > On Jul 27, 2017 12:57 PM, "Chris Wright" <ch...@velociter.net> wrote: > >> Not even that. Most people are terrified of their own computers. Why >> would they want to mess with a mysterious box they barely know exists? >> >> >> >> Chris Wright >> >> Network Administrator >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Harold Bledsoe >> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 1:34 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question >> >> >> >> > I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. >> >> >> >> Is that because they don't want a personal SSID/passcode, guest network, >> etc.? Or is it because they are terrified of a typical enterprise >> management config interface? >> >> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:20 PM Christopher Gray < >> cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote: >> >> To reply to the original question: >> >> >> >> We use a few options: >> >> >> >> *Cambium R200 provisioned by cnMaestro (leased for $9-$12 per device >> depending on area) >> *UniFi USG / UAP provisioned by off-site UniFi Controller (purchased >> outright then managed for $5 + $5 per device) >> >> *Mimosa G2 no remote provisioning, requires external network access >> (leased for $9-$12 per device depending on area) >> >> >> >> I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. I do have >> one company on UniFi that I have provided with a controller login. With the >> R200, I allow customer control from the Basic login, but I've only had one >> person ask about it. It is easy enough to re-provision the R200 that I'm >> not that concerned about people making their own changes on the limited >> accounts. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> >> wrote: >> >> We do it using Cloud based mngmt platforms: >> >> >> >> We offer Cambium Pilot 201 Router and Xclaim X2’s for $9.95 >> >> Meraki MR 33 and up starting from $19.95 up to $39.95 >> >> >> >> We charge a setup and install fee that goes from $49.95 to $99.95 >> depending on the contract term. >> >> >> >> We include: Cable drop, config, FW updates, lifetime management and >> replacement. Meraki is the best Cloud mngmt. of the 3 >> >> >> >> There is really a need for a Amplifi/Eero type of product for MSP's >> >> >> >> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Harold Bledsoe < >> hbledso...@gmail.com> >> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> *Date: *Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:25 PM >> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Managed WiFi question >> >> >> >> Hi folks, >> >> >> >> For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you >> provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> -Hal >> >> >> >> *Gino A. Villarini* >> >> President >> >> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >> >> [image: aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png] >> >> >> >> -- Harold Bledsoe
Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question
Harold, what is your affiliation with cambium? On Jul 27, 2017 12:57 PM, "Chris Wright" <ch...@velociter.net> wrote: > Not even that. Most people are terrified of their own computers. Why would > they want to mess with a mysterious box they barely know exists? > > > > Chris Wright > > Network Administrator > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Harold Bledsoe > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 1:34 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question > > > > > I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. > > > > Is that because they don't want a personal SSID/passcode, guest network, > etc.? Or is it because they are terrified of a typical enterprise > management config interface? > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:20 PM Christopher Gray < > cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote: > > To reply to the original question: > > > > We use a few options: > > > > *Cambium R200 provisioned by cnMaestro (leased for $9-$12 per device > depending on area) > *UniFi USG / UAP provisioned by off-site UniFi Controller (purchased > outright then managed for $5 + $5 per device) > > *Mimosa G2 no remote provisioning, requires external network access > (leased for $9-$12 per device depending on area) > > > > I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. I do have > one company on UniFi that I have provided with a controller login. With the > R200, I allow customer control from the Basic login, but I've only had one > person ask about it. It is easy enough to re-provision the R200 that I'm > not that concerned about people making their own changes on the limited > accounts. > > > > > -- > > > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote: > > We do it using Cloud based mngmt platforms: > > > > We offer Cambium Pilot 201 Router and Xclaim X2’s for $9.95 > > Meraki MR 33 and up starting from $19.95 up to $39.95 > > > > We charge a setup and install fee that goes from $49.95 to $99.95 > depending on the contract term. > > > > We include: Cable drop, config, FW updates, lifetime management and > replacement. Meraki is the best Cloud mngmt. of the 3 > > > > There is really a need for a Amplifi/Eero type of product for MSP's > > > > *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Harold Bledsoe < > hbledso...@gmail.com> > *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > *Date: *Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:25 PM > *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Managed WiFi question > > > > Hi folks, > > > > For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you > provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? > > > > Thanks! > > -Hal > > > > *Gino A. Villarini* > > President > > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > > [image: aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png] > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question
Not even that. Most people are terrified of their own computers. Why would they want to mess with a mysterious box they barely know exists? Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 1:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question > I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. Is that because they don't want a personal SSID/passcode, guest network, etc.? Or is it because they are terrified of a typical enterprise management config interface? On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:20 PM Christopher Gray <cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote: To reply to the original question: We use a few options: *Cambium R200 provisioned by cnMaestro (leased for $9-$12 per device depending on area) *UniFi USG / UAP provisioned by off-site UniFi Controller (purchased outright then managed for $5 + $5 per device) *Mimosa G2 no remote provisioning, requires external network access (leased for $9-$12 per device depending on area) I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. I do have one company on UniFi that I have provided with a controller login. With the R200, I allow customer control from the Basic login, but I've only had one person ask about it. It is easy enough to re-provision the R200 that I'm not that concerned about people making their own changes on the limited accounts. _ On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote: We do it using Cloud based mngmt platforms: We offer Cambium Pilot 201 Router and Xclaim X2’s for $9.95 Meraki MR 33 and up starting from $19.95 up to $39.95 We charge a setup and install fee that goes from $49.95 to $99.95 depending on the contract term. We include: Cable drop, config, FW updates, lifetime management and replacement. Meraki is the best Cloud mngmt. of the 3 There is really a need for a Amplifi/Eero type of product for MSP's From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Date: Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:25 PM To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question Hi folks, For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? Thanks! -Hal Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png
Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question
We do that plus RF scans for optimal channels, vlans on SSIDS, guest networks, etc. From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Christopher Gray <cg...@graytechsoftware.com<mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 9:31 AM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question Our management service (I assumed others did this as well) includes configuring a personal SSID and passcode and changing it if necessary. Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png] On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com<mailto:hbledso...@gmail.com>> wrote: > I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. Is that because they don't want a personal SSID/passcode, guest network, etc.? Or is it because they are terrified of a typical enterprise management config interface? On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:20 PM Christopher Gray <cg...@graytechsoftware.com<mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com>> wrote: To reply to the original question: We use a few options: *Cambium R200 provisioned by cnMaestro (leased for $9-$12 per device depending on area) *UniFi USG / UAP provisioned by off-site UniFi Controller (purchased outright then managed for $5 + $5 per device) *Mimosa G2 no remote provisioning, requires external network access (leased for $9-$12 per device depending on area) I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. I do have one company on UniFi that I have provided with a controller login. With the R200, I allow customer control from the Basic login, but I've only had one person ask about it. It is easy enough to re-provision the R200 that I'm not that concerned about people making their own changes on the limited accounts. On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote: We do it using Cloud based mngmt platforms: We offer Cambium Pilot 201 Router and Xclaim X2’s for $9.95 Meraki MR 33 and up starting from $19.95 up to $39.95 We charge a setup and install fee that goes from $49.95 to $99.95 depending on the contract term. We include: Cable drop, config, FW updates, lifetime management and replacement. Meraki is the best Cloud mngmt. of the 3 There is really a need for a Amplifi/Eero type of product for MSP's From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com<mailto:hbledso...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:25 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question Hi folks, For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? Thanks! -Hal Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]
Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question
Our management service (I assumed others did this as well) includes configuring a personal SSID and passcode and changing it if necessary. On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. > > Is that because they don't want a personal SSID/passcode, guest network, > etc.? Or is it because they are terrified of a typical enterprise > management config interface? > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:20 PM Christopher Gray < > cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote: > >> To reply to the original question: >> >> We use a few options: >> >> *Cambium R200 provisioned by cnMaestro (leased for $9-$12 per device >> depending on area) >> *UniFi USG / UAP provisioned by off-site UniFi Controller (purchased >> outright then managed for $5 + $5 per device) >> *Mimosa G2 no remote provisioning, requires external network access >> (leased for $9-$12 per device depending on area) >> >> I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. I do have >> one company on UniFi that I have provided with a controller login. With the >> R200, I allow customer control from the Basic login, but I've only had one >> person ask about it. It is easy enough to re-provision the R200 that I'm >> not that concerned about people making their own changes on the limited >> accounts. >> >> >> -- >> >> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> >> wrote: >> >>> We do it using Cloud based mngmt platforms: >>> >>> We offer Cambium Pilot 201 Router and Xclaim X2’s for $9.95 >>> Meraki MR 33 and up starting from $19.95 up to $39.95 >>> >>> We charge a setup and install fee that goes from $49.95 to $99.95 >>> depending on the contract term. >>> >>> We include: Cable drop, config, FW updates, lifetime management and >>> replacement. Meraki is the best Cloud mngmt. of the 3 >>> >>> There is really a need for a Amplifi/Eero type of product for MSP's >>> >>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Harold Bledsoe < >>> hbledso...@gmail.com> >>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>> Date: Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:25 PM >>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>> Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you >>> provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> -Hal >>> >>> >>> >>> *Gino A. Villarini* >>> President >>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >>> >>> [image: aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png] >>> >>> >>
Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question
We have been demoing SmartRG's device manager. We do both xDSL and fixed wireless, SmartRG has a nice xDSL modem/router we've been using for awhile. They have an ethernet model that could work with fixed wireless, fiber, etc. http://www.smartrg.com/hardware Their Device Manager is a TR-069 platform, designed to work with SmartRG products but you can incorporate other products that support TR-069 with some (a lot of)work. I'm sure they would be happy to integrate other products - for a price. http://www.smartrg.com/device-manager So far seems to be a pretty simple/solid platform for managing customer devices, changing Wi-Fi SSID/passwords, etc and basic troubleshooting inside the network. It has a basic customer portal so that customers can login and self-help. Functional, but not the "wow factor" I was hoping for when trying to figure out our next generation managed platform. Would really love to see Ubiquiti do an MSP version of AmpliFi - would jump all over that. All. Over. That. -Rob On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:29 AM, George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote: > We've been demoing Calix ConsumerConnect+ and GigaCenter routers. It's not > bad, especially on the fiber side. Might need a cost analysis for a typical > WISP though. > > > On 7/26/2017 12:20 PM, Christopher Gray wrote: > > To reply to the original question: > > We use a few options: > > *Cambium R200 provisioned by cnMaestro (leased for $9-$12 per device > depending on area) > *UniFi USG / UAP provisioned by off-site UniFi Controller (purchased > outright then managed for $5 + $5 per device) > *Mimosa G2 no remote provisioning, requires external network access > (leased for $9-$12 per device depending on area) > > I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. I do have > one company on UniFi that I have provided with a controller login. With the > R200, I allow customer control from the Basic login, but I've only had one > person ask about it. It is easy enough to re-provision the R200 that I'm > not that concerned about people making their own changes on the limited > accounts. > > > -- > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote: > >> We do it using Cloud based mngmt platforms: >> >> We offer Cambium Pilot 201 Router and Xclaim X2’s for $9.95 >> Meraki MR 33 and up starting from $19.95 up to $39.95 >> >> We charge a setup and install fee that goes from $49.95 to $99.95 >> depending on the contract term. >> >> We include: Cable drop, config, FW updates, lifetime management and >> replacement. Meraki is the best Cloud mngmt. of the 3 >> >> There is really a need for a Amplifi/Eero type of product for MSP's >> >> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Harold Bledsoe < >> hbledso...@gmail.com> >> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> Date: Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:25 PM >> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question >> >> Hi folks, >> >> For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you >> provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? >> >> Thanks! >> -Hal >> >> >> >> *Gino A. Villarini* >> President >> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >> >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question
> I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. Is that because they don't want a personal SSID/passcode, guest network, etc.? Or is it because they are terrified of a typical enterprise management config interface? On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:20 PM Christopher Gray <cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote: > To reply to the original question: > > We use a few options: > > *Cambium R200 provisioned by cnMaestro (leased for $9-$12 per device > depending on area) > *UniFi USG / UAP provisioned by off-site UniFi Controller (purchased > outright then managed for $5 + $5 per device) > *Mimosa G2 no remote provisioning, requires external network access > (leased for $9-$12 per device depending on area) > > I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. I do have > one company on UniFi that I have provided with a controller login. With the > R200, I allow customer control from the Basic login, but I've only had one > person ask about it. It is easy enough to re-provision the R200 that I'm > not that concerned about people making their own changes on the limited > accounts. > > > -- > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote: > >> We do it using Cloud based mngmt platforms: >> >> We offer Cambium Pilot 201 Router and Xclaim X2’s for $9.95 >> Meraki MR 33 and up starting from $19.95 up to $39.95 >> >> We charge a setup and install fee that goes from $49.95 to $99.95 >> depending on the contract term. >> >> We include: Cable drop, config, FW updates, lifetime management and >> replacement. Meraki is the best Cloud mngmt. of the 3 >> >> There is really a need for a Amplifi/Eero type of product for MSP's >> >> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Harold Bledsoe < >> hbledso...@gmail.com> >> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> Date: Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:25 PM >> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question >> >> Hi folks, >> >> For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you >> provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? >> >> Thanks! >> -Hal >> >> >> >> *Gino A. Villarini* >> President >> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >> >> [image: aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png] >> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question
We've been demoing Calix ConsumerConnect+ and GigaCenter routers. It's not bad, especially on the fiber side. Might need a cost analysis for a typical WISP though. On 7/26/2017 12:20 PM, Christopher Gray wrote: To reply to the original question: We use a few options: *Cambium R200 provisioned by cnMaestro (leased for $9-$12 per device depending on area) *UniFi USG / UAP provisioned by off-site UniFi Controller (purchased outright then managed for $5 + $5 per device) *Mimosa G2 no remote provisioning, requires external network access (leased for $9-$12 per device depending on area) I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. I do have one company on UniFi that I have provided with a controller login. With the R200, I allow customer control from the Basic login, but I've only had one person ask about it. It is easy enough to re-provision the R200 that I'm not that concerned about people making their own changes on the limited accounts. On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote: We do it using Cloud based mngmt platforms: We offer Cambium Pilot 201 Router and Xclaim X2’s for $9.95 Meraki MR 33 and up starting from $19.95 up to $39.95 We charge a setup and install fee that goes from $49.95 to $99.95 depending on the contract term. We include: Cable drop, config, FW updates, lifetime management and replacement. Meraki is the best Cloud mngmt. of the 3 There is really a need for a Amplifi/Eero type of product for MSP's From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com <mailto:hbledso...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:25 PM To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question Hi folks, For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? Thanks! -Hal *//* */Gino A. Villarini/* President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question
To reply to the original question: We use a few options: *Cambium R200 provisioned by cnMaestro (leased for $9-$12 per device depending on area) *UniFi USG / UAP provisioned by off-site UniFi Controller (purchased outright then managed for $5 + $5 per device) *Mimosa G2 no remote provisioning, requires external network access (leased for $9-$12 per device depending on area) I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. I do have one company on UniFi that I have provided with a controller login. With the R200, I allow customer control from the Basic login, but I've only had one person ask about it. It is easy enough to re-provision the R200 that I'm not that concerned about people making their own changes on the limited accounts. -- On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote: > We do it using Cloud based mngmt platforms: > > We offer Cambium Pilot 201 Router and Xclaim X2’s for $9.95 > Meraki MR 33 and up starting from $19.95 up to $39.95 > > We charge a setup and install fee that goes from $49.95 to $99.95 > depending on the contract term. > > We include: Cable drop, config, FW updates, lifetime management and > replacement. Meraki is the best Cloud mngmt. of the 3 > > There is really a need for a Amplifi/Eero type of product for MSP's > > From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Harold Bledsoe < > hbledso...@gmail.com> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Date: Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:25 PM > To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question > > Hi folks, > > For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you > provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? > > Thanks! > -Hal > > > > *Gino A. Villarini* > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > >
Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question
We do it using Cloud based mngmt platforms: We offer Cambium Pilot 201 Router and Xclaim X2’s for $9.95 Meraki MR 33 and up starting from $19.95 up to $39.95 We charge a setup and install fee that goes from $49.95 to $99.95 depending on the contract term. We include: Cable drop, config, FW updates, lifetime management and replacement. Meraki is the best Cloud mngmt. of the 3 There is really a need for a Amplifi/Eero type of product for MSP's From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com<mailto:hbledso...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:25 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question Hi folks, For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? Thanks! -Hal Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]
Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question
I don't remember exactly. I think it was $12/mo for up to 3 APs. People didn't even give it a second thought, just signed up. On Jul 25, 2017 9:12 PM, "Christopher Gray" <cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote: > Josh and Jim, > > What are you charging for UniFi management? > > > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] < > j...@brazoswifi.com> wrote: > >> We do managed WiFi via UniFi. We create a UniFi site and give them >> access to change their settings. We retain admin permissions. >> >> >> >> >> >> Jim Bouse >> >> Owner >> >> Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi >> >> 979-985-5912 <(979)%20985-5912> >> >> j...@brazoswifi.com >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Harold Bledsoe >> *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 4:25 PM >> *To:* af <af@afmug.com> >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question >> >> >> >> Hi folks, >> >> >> >> For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you >> provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> -Hal >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question
Josh and Jim, What are you charging for UniFi management? On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] <j...@brazoswifi.com > wrote: > We do managed WiFi via UniFi. We create a UniFi site and give them access > to change their settings. We retain admin permissions. > > > > > > Jim Bouse > > Owner > > Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi > > 979-985-5912 <(979)%20985-5912> > > j...@brazoswifi.com > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Harold Bledsoe > *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 4:25 PM > *To:* af <af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question > > > > Hi folks, > > > > For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you > provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? > > > > Thanks! > > -Hal >
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just a basic air router, dump a script in it that changes the management ports, drops a few firewall rules that only allows management from our network, drops from everywhere else. disables the reset button, puts in our password, enable/disables a few things, puts a DMZ to an IP out of the DHCP pool. the only things we do manually is pull the MAC from the BMU in powercode and assign it to the customer in powercode, set the ESSID, and set the WPA key to the numbers off the manufacturer sticker (available remotely in the GUI) set their name and tell them if they want to dick with the wireless, they can replace the router with their own. Now that we have serverplus going we are considering options since they'll do the support, a passthrough cost isn't all that valuable since providing "managed" anything adds a layer of issues and hassle (my internet is down. Everytime I go out to the barn it goes out.. how far is your barn, and where is the router?... the router is in the basement and the barn is on the other side of the apple trees only about 1500 feet away) On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 6:48 PM, Jesse DuPontwrote: > We do the same as ServerPlus: ReadyNet WRT500 and AC1200M routers. Except, > rather than charging customers on an invoice line item, we just raised our > prices for all new customers (after May 1st) and include the WRT500 at no > charge (AC1200M is $7 more per month). TR-069 for monitoring, but we also > use ReadyNet's provisioning system (which is HTTP config file download) so > even after factory reset, router will re-provision itself with customer's > PPPoE username/pass along with SSID and pass (which we leave default). > > The customer can change settings as they see fit, but SSID & passphrase > will be reset back to what we set it to within an hour. So they just have > to call us if they want to control it or have us change it (we'll > accommodate either). > > *Jesse DuPont* > > Network Architect > email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net > Celerity Networks LLC > > Celerity Broadband LLC > Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc > > Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband > On 7/24/17 3:25 PM, Harold Bledsoe wrote: > > Hi folks, > > For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you > provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? > > Thanks! > -Hal > > >
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We do the same as ServerPlus: ReadyNet WRT500 and AC1200M routers. Except, rather than charging customers on an invoice line item, we just raised our prices for all new customers (after May 1st) and include the WRT500 at no charge (AC1200M is $7 more per month). TR-069 for monitoring, but we also use ReadyNet's provisioning system (which is HTTP config file download) so even after factory reset, router will re-provision itself with customer's PPPoE username/pass along with SSID and pass (which we leave default). The customer can change settings as they see fit, but SSID & passphrase will be reset back to what we set it to within an hour. So they just have to call us if they want to control it or have us change it (we'll accommodate either). Jesse DuPont Network Architect email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net Celerity Networks LLC Celerity Broadband LLC Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband On 7/24/17 3:25 PM, Harold Bledsoe wrote: Hi folks, For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? Thanks! -Hal
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Yes, using Readynet Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102<tel:801.426.8283%2C%20ext%20102> [New logo xl]<http://www.serverplus.com/> [http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png] [http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/> [http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]<https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus> [Utah 100] [fast50-01] [Inc 5000] From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 4:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question With tr069? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 24, 2017 5:50 PM, "Layne Sisk" <la...@serverplus.com<mailto:la...@serverplus.com>> wrote: Our managed router solution gives us access to control the device remotely, including resetting and changing SSID and PW. If they screw it up we can almost always fix it because even if they factory reset it comes back to the server to get it’s configuration. Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102<tel:801.426.8283%2C%20ext%20102> [New logo xl]<http://www.serverplus.com/> [http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png] [http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/> [http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]<https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus> [Utah 100] [fast50-01] [Inc 5000] From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 3:25 PM To: af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question Hi folks, For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? Thanks! -Hal
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With tr069? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 24, 2017 5:50 PM, "Layne Sisk" <la...@serverplus.com> wrote: > Our managed router solution gives us access to control the device > remotely, including resetting and changing SSID and PW. If they screw it > up we can almost always fix it because even if they factory reset it comes > back to the server to get it’s configuration. > > > > Layne Sisk > > ServerPlus > > 801.426.8283, ext 102 > > [image: New logo xl] <http://www.serverplus.com/> > > [image: http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png] > > [image: http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png] > <https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/> > > [image: http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png] > <https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus> > > [image: Utah 100] [image: fast50-01][image: Inc 5000] > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Harold Bledsoe > *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 3:25 PM > *To:* af <af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question > > > > Hi folks, > > > > For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you > provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? > > > > Thanks! > > -Hal >
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We do managed WiFi via UniFi. We create a UniFi site and give them access to change their settings. We retain admin permissions. Jim Bouse Owner Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi 979-985-5912 j...@brazoswifi.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 4:25 PM To: af <af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question Hi folks, For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? Thanks! -Hal
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We do support for a number of ISPs using Calix, I can give it an endorsement as well. Makes everyone’s lives easier. Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102<tel:801.426.8283%2C%20ext%20102> [New logo xl]<http://www.serverplus.com/> [http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png] [http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/> [http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]<https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus> [Utah 100] [fast50-01] [Inc 5000] From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 4:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question We do it only on the Calix 844 router. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 3:59 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question We did this with unifi and offered managed wifi and managed router service. If they want to control it themselves then they can do it... If not, pay us to deal with it. We sold about 40% of our customers at the time on it, and weren't even really pushing it. Businesses on the other hand we're almost 100%. On Jul 24, 2017 4:55 PM, "Harold Bledsoe" <hbledso...@gmail.com<mailto:hbledso...@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks Layne and that's the kind of WiFi I mean. Managed WiFi is kind of a vague proposition. I'm asking about this kind - where you charge $x/mo more and handle it for the sub. How did it get managed in the first place and how did it get associated with a particular ISP and end-user subscriber? My 2 cents - ISPs need a competitive WiFi solution that rivals Eero, Luma, Google WiFi, etc. so that they can make money on that vs. letting someone else make money on that. Then how to minimize the friction of provisioning, installing it. I just got Cox and the Panorama WiFi thing is pretty painful for example. On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 4:50 PM Layne Sisk <la...@serverplus.com<mailto:la...@serverplus.com>> wrote: Our managed router solution gives us access to control the device remotely, including resetting and changing SSID and PW. If they screw it up we can almost always fix it because even if they factory reset it comes back to the server to get it’s configuration. Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102<tel:801.426.8283%2C%20ext%20102> <http://www.serverplus.com/> [http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png]<http://www.serverplus.com/> [http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]<http://www.serverplus.com/> [http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]<http://www.serverplus.com/> <http://www.serverplus.com/> <http://www.serverplus.com/> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 3:25 PM To: af <af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question<http://www.serverplus.com/> <http://www.serverplus.com/> Hi folks,<http://www.serverplus.com/> <http://www.serverplus.com/> For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes?<http://www.serverplus.com/> <http://www.serverplus.com/> Thanks!<http://www.serverplus.com/> -Hal<http://www.serverplus.com/>
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We use a Readynet router that we provide to the ISP, and we charge $10 per month for the router (usually passed through to the end user). That $10 pays for the router with a lifetime warranty, and it pays for all end users support. We send the routers configured to report back in to the management server, so when the customer plugs it in, it pulls configs from the server for that ISP and we have access to it. We have several hundred end users using it now, and it they love it and it makes troubleshooting s much easier! Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102<tel:801.426.8283%2C%20ext%20102> [New logo xl]<http://www.serverplus.com/> [http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png] [http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/> [http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]<https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus> [Utah 100] [fast50-01] [Inc 5000] From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 3:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question Thanks Layne and that's the kind of WiFi I mean. Managed WiFi is kind of a vague proposition. I'm asking about this kind - where you charge $x/mo more and handle it for the sub. How did it get managed in the first place and how did it get associated with a particular ISP and end-user subscriber? My 2 cents - ISPs need a competitive WiFi solution that rivals Eero, Luma, Google WiFi, etc. so that they can make money on that vs. letting someone else make money on that. Then how to minimize the friction of provisioning, installing it. I just got Cox and the Panorama WiFi thing is pretty painful for example. On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 4:50 PM Layne Sisk <la...@serverplus.com<mailto:la...@serverplus.com>> wrote: Our managed router solution gives us access to control the device remotely, including resetting and changing SSID and PW. If they screw it up we can almost always fix it because even if they factory reset it comes back to the server to get it’s configuration. Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102<tel:801.426.8283%2C%20ext%20102> [New logo xl]<http://www.serverplus.com/> [http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png] [http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/> [http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]<https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus> [Utah 100] [fast50-01] [Inc 5000] From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 3:25 PM To: af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question Hi folks, For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? Thanks! -Hal
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We do it only on the Calix 844 router. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 3:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question We did this with unifi and offered managed wifi and managed router service. If they want to control it themselves then they can do it... If not, pay us to deal with it. We sold about 40% of our customers at the time on it, and weren't even really pushing it. Businesses on the other hand we're almost 100%. On Jul 24, 2017 4:55 PM, "Harold Bledsoe" <hbledso...@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Layne and that's the kind of WiFi I mean. Managed WiFi is kind of a vague proposition. I'm asking about this kind - where you charge $x/mo more and handle it for the sub. How did it get managed in the first place and how did it get associated with a particular ISP and end-user subscriber? My 2 cents - ISPs need a competitive WiFi solution that rivals Eero, Luma, Google WiFi, etc. so that they can make money on that vs. letting someone else make money on that. Then how to minimize the friction of provisioning, installing it. I just got Cox and the Panorama WiFi thing is pretty painful for example. On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 4:50 PM Layne Sisk <la...@serverplus.com> wrote: Our managed router solution gives us access to control the device remotely, including resetting and changing SSID and PW. If they screw it up we can almost always fix it because even if they factory reset it comes back to the server to get it’s configuration. Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 3:25 PM To: af <af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question Hi folks, For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? Thanks! -Hal
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We did this with unifi and offered managed wifi and managed router service. If they want to control it themselves then they can do it... If not, pay us to deal with it. We sold about 40% of our customers at the time on it, and weren't even really pushing it. Businesses on the other hand we're almost 100%. On Jul 24, 2017 4:55 PM, "Harold Bledsoe" <hbledso...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Layne and that's the kind of WiFi I mean. Managed WiFi is kind of > a vague proposition. I'm asking about this kind - where you charge $x/mo > more and handle it for the sub. > > How did it get managed in the first place and how did it get associated > with a particular ISP and end-user subscriber? > > My 2 cents - ISPs need a competitive WiFi solution that rivals Eero, Luma, > Google WiFi, etc. so that they can make money on that vs. letting someone > else make money on that. Then how to minimize the friction of > provisioning, installing it. I just got Cox and the Panorama WiFi thing is > pretty painful for example. > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 4:50 PM Layne Sisk <la...@serverplus.com> wrote: > >> Our managed router solution gives us access to control the device >> remotely, including resetting and changing SSID and PW. If they screw it >> up we can almost always fix it because even if they factory reset it comes >> back to the server to get it’s configuration. >> >> >> >> Layne Sisk >> >> ServerPlus >> >> 801.426.8283, ext 102 >> >> [image: New logo xl] <http://www.serverplus.com/> >> >> [image: http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png] >> >> [image: http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png] >> <https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/> >> >> [image: http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png] >> <https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus> >> >> [image: Utah 100] [image: fast50-01][image: Inc 5000] >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Harold Bledsoe >> *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 3:25 PM >> *To:* af <af@afmug.com> >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question >> >> >> >> Hi folks, >> >> >> >> For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you >> provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> -Hal >> >
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Thanks Layne and that's the kind of WiFi I mean. Managed WiFi is kind of a vague proposition. I'm asking about this kind - where you charge $x/mo more and handle it for the sub. How did it get managed in the first place and how did it get associated with a particular ISP and end-user subscriber? My 2 cents - ISPs need a competitive WiFi solution that rivals Eero, Luma, Google WiFi, etc. so that they can make money on that vs. letting someone else make money on that. Then how to minimize the friction of provisioning, installing it. I just got Cox and the Panorama WiFi thing is pretty painful for example. On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 4:50 PM Layne Sisk <la...@serverplus.com> wrote: > Our managed router solution gives us access to control the device > remotely, including resetting and changing SSID and PW. If they screw it > up we can almost always fix it because even if they factory reset it comes > back to the server to get it’s configuration. > > > > Layne Sisk > > ServerPlus > > 801.426.8283, ext 102 > > [image: New logo xl] <http://www.serverplus.com/> > > [image: http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png] > > [image: http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png] > <https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/> > > [image: http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png] > <https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus> > > [image: Utah 100] [image: fast50-01][image: Inc 5000] > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Harold Bledsoe > *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 3:25 PM > *To:* af <af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question > > > > Hi folks, > > > > For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you > provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? > > > > Thanks! > > -Hal >
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Our managed router solution gives us access to control the device remotely, including resetting and changing SSID and PW. If they screw it up we can almost always fix it because even if they factory reset it comes back to the server to get it’s configuration. Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102<tel:801.426.8283%2C%20ext%20102> [New logo xl]<http://www.serverplus.com/> [http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png] [http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/> [http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]<https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus> [Utah 100] [fast50-01] [Inc 5000] From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 3:25 PM To: af <af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question Hi folks, For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? Thanks! -Hal
[AFMUG] Managed WiFi question
Hi folks, For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? Thanks! -Hal