Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[chuck]

nope

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 9:00 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

No Mikrotik to just run Torch?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 9:53:20 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming


Roku does that behind the scenes.  I would have to wireshark my wifi to see if 
I could figure it out.  

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

What IP does it come from when you watch it?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:42:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming


No idea.

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

What CDN is Philo coming from?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 7:27:10 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT streaming


I just added Philo.  It has discovery.  $16/month.
And it has DVR.  Directvnow still has not launched DVR.  

I think it may be the best value.  

This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.  
However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost alternative to 
adding HBO.

Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly after 
launch, but so far not happening.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[Mike Hammett]

No Mikrotik to just run Torch? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 9:53:20 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming 




Roku does that behind the scenes. I would have to wireshark my wifi to see if I 
could figure it out. 




From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:43 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming 


What IP does it come from when you watch it? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Chuck McCown"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:42:38 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming 




No idea. 




From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:34 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming 


What CDN is Philo coming from? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Chuck McCown"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 7:27:10 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT streaming 




I just added Philo. It has discovery. $16/month. 
And it has DVR. Directvnow still has not launched DVR. 

I think it may be the best value. 

This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv. 
However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost alternative to 
adding HBO. 

Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly after 
launch, but so far not happening. 

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[chuck]

Roku does that behind the scenes.  I would have to wireshark my wifi to see if 
I could figure it out.  

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

What IP does it come from when you watch it?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:42:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming


No idea.

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

What CDN is Philo coming from?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 7:27:10 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT streaming


I just added Philo.  It has discovery.  $16/month.
And it has DVR.  Directvnow still has not launched DVR.  

I think it may be the best value.  

This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.  
However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost alternative to 
adding HBO.

Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly after 
launch, but so far not happening.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[Mike Hammett]

What IP does it come from when you watch it? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Chuck McCown"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:42:38 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming 




No idea. 




From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:34 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming 


What CDN is Philo coming from? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Chuck McCown"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 7:27:10 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT streaming 




I just added Philo. It has discovery. $16/month. 
And it has DVR. Directvnow still has not launched DVR. 

I think it may be the best value. 

This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv. 
However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost alternative to 
adding HBO. 

Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly after 
launch, but so far not happening. 

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[Chuck McCown]

No idea.

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

What CDN is Philo coming from?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 7:27:10 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT streaming


I just added Philo.  It has discovery.  $16/month.
And it has DVR.  Directvnow still has not launched DVR.  

I think it may be the best value.  

This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.  
However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost alternative to 
adding HBO.

Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly after 
launch, but so far not happening.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[Mike Hammett]

What CDN is Philo coming from? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Chuck McCown"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 7:27:10 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT streaming 




I just added Philo. It has discovery. $16/month. 
And it has DVR. Directvnow still has not launched DVR. 

I think it may be the best value. 

This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv. 
However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost alternative to 
adding HBO. 

Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly after 
launch, but so far not happening. 

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[Andy Trimmell]

Sorry I’ve been using a Roku since I got it but only had it a couple months. It 
was $35 when it started and just changed to $40 on March 13th.  Anyone signed 
up before then gets to keep $35. The other one people are talking about is 
DirectTV Now. Has a lot of stations none of the others have. You can also share 
youtubetv with 5 emails addresses. Makes it nice to just share it with other 
family without the fear of breaking TOS.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 2:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

 

I read an article in Fortune that says Youtube TV is on Roku now.  But no 
Discovery channel so that is a no-go for me.  And $40.

 

Philo is $16, on Roku, has DVR and has Discovery.  A hat trick for me.  

Now if I could only add HBO and Showtime for $7 or $8 a piece we would be 
golden.  

 

There is so much free stuff on Roku, low income folks getting subsidized 
lifeline internet and an aerial could have an ocean of TV to watch.  

I spend a bit of time on Pluto.  Mostly the movies.  Reruns.  The Eye Candy 
channel cracks me up.  I cannot imagine how they can make money producing such 
a thing.  

 

From: David Coudron 

Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 12:38 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

 

Right, our biggest challenge with YouTube TV when messing with the different 
options for our own use was the interface.   You either have to Chromecast it 
or use Apple TV.   My basic requirements for streaming are:

No proprietary device needed – Supports Roku, Apple TV and others as well as PC 
and Moble.   (YouTube TV is kind of there)

DVR – Been running the DirecTVNow beta DVR, seems OK.  YouTube’s works well.   
I would like to try Philo.

Local Channels – Would really like to have this on the same DVR as the rest of 
the content.   Ie. Wouldn’t want a separate DVR for OTA local channels.   Not 
sure if Philo does any local channels?   

Has FoxSports - 

 

The good news is there are lots of options.   The bad news is that the field is 
still evolving and things change frequently.   However, our primary goal was 
accomplished, which was getting rid of the expensive satellite bill.  (Although 
in the interim that means subscribing to DirecTVNow and YouTube TV 😊 )
Likely we will do DirecTVNow only once the DVR is fully rolled out.   They just 
got the Roku DVR client in Beta in the last week or so, that was a big one for 
us.

 

Regards,

 

David Coudron

 

 

From: Af  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 1:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

 

I subscribed but quickly quit the trial as it does not support Roku.  At least 
it didn’t when I was looking at it.

I was too lazy to go get my AppleTV from my theater room and carry it up two 
flights of stairs  too much to ask.  

Does it have the Discovery channel?

 

From: Andy Trimmell 

Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 12:06 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

 

No one has mentioned YouTubeTV. It’s pretty nice and has DVR.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 11:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

 

The problem is that this equation won't pencil out for everyone the same way. 
For example, I could not care less about HBO, so that would not be part of my 
decision.

Here are a couple of takes on the various paths to streaming.

https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2478213,00.asp

https://cordcuttingreport.com/cord-cutting-guide/

 

bp

 

On 4/2/2018 8:19 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I had it via SlingTV for $8 or $7 as an add on.  

I am not going to get rid of Amazon or Hulu so I will check to see if 
they have a comparable add on for HBO.  

Be nice if Philo launched it.  

 

From: Josh Reynolds 

Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 6:30 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

 

Can get hbo via Amazon

 

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 7:27 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

I just added Philo.  It has discovery.  $16/month.

And it has DVR.  Directvnow still has not launched DVR.  

 

I think it may be the best value.  

 

This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.  

However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost 
alternative to adding HBO.

 

Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it 
shortly after launch, but so far not happening.  

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[chuck]

I read an article in Fortune that says Youtube TV is on Roku now.  But no 
Discovery channel so that is a no-go for me.  And $40.

Philo is $16, on Roku, has DVR and has Discovery.  A hat trick for me.  
Now if I could only add HBO and Showtime for $7 or $8 a piece we would be 
golden.  

There is so much free stuff on Roku, low income folks getting subsidized 
lifeline internet and an aerial could have an ocean of TV to watch.  
I spend a bit of time on Pluto.  Mostly the movies.  Reruns.  The Eye Candy 
channel cracks me up.  I cannot imagine how they can make money producing such 
a thing.  

From: David Coudron 
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 12:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

Right, our biggest challenge with YouTube TV when messing with the different 
options for our own use was the interface.   You either have to Chromecast it 
or use Apple TV.   My basic requirements for streaming are:

No proprietary device needed – Supports Roku, Apple TV and others as well as PC 
and Moble.   (YouTube TV is kind of there)

DVR – Been running the DirecTVNow beta DVR, seems OK.  YouTube’s works well.   
I would like to try Philo.

Local Channels – Would really like to have this on the same DVR as the rest of 
the content.   Ie. Wouldn’t want a separate DVR for OTA local channels.   Not 
sure if Philo does any local channels?   

Has FoxSports - 

 

The good news is there are lots of options.   The bad news is that the field is 
still evolving and things change frequently.   However, our primary goal was 
accomplished, which was getting rid of the expensive satellite bill.  (Although 
in the interim that means subscribing to DirecTVNow and YouTube TV 😊 )
Likely we will do DirecTVNow only once the DVR is fully rolled out.   They just 
got the Roku DVR client in Beta in the last week or so, that was a big one for 
us.

 

Regards,

 

David Coudron

 

 

From: Af  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 1:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

 

I subscribed but quickly quit the trial as it does not support Roku.  At least 
it didn’t when I was looking at it.

I was too lazy to go get my AppleTV from my theater room and carry it up two 
flights of stairs  too much to ask.  

Does it have the Discovery channel?

 

From: Andy Trimmell 

Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 12:06 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

 

No one has mentioned YouTubeTV. It’s pretty nice and has DVR.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 11:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

 

The problem is that this equation won't pencil out for everyone the same way. 
For example, I could not care less about HBO, so that would not be part of my 
decision.

Here are a couple of takes on the various paths to streaming.

https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2478213,00.asp

https://cordcuttingreport.com/cord-cutting-guide/

 

bp On 4/2/2018 8:19 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I had it via SlingTV for $8 or $7 as an add on.  

  I am not going to get rid of Amazon or Hulu so I will check to see if they 
have a comparable add on for HBO.  

  Be nice if Philo launched it.  

   

  From: Josh Reynolds 

  Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 6:30 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

   

  Can get hbo via Amazon

   

  On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 7:27 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

I just added Philo.  It has discovery.  $16/month.

And it has DVR.  Directvnow still has not launched DVR.  

 

I think it may be the best value.  

 

This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.  

However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost alternative 
to adding HBO.

 

Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly after 
launch, but so far not happening.  

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[David Coudron]

Right, our biggest challenge with YouTube TV when messing with the different 
options for our own use was the interface.   You either have to Chromecast it 
or use Apple TV.   My basic requirements for streaming are:
No proprietary device needed – Supports Roku, Apple TV and others as well as PC 
and Moble.   (YouTube TV is kind of there)
DVR – Been running the DirecTVNow beta DVR, seems OK.  YouTube’s works well.   
I would like to try Philo.
Local Channels – Would really like to have this on the same DVR as the rest of 
the content.   Ie. Wouldn’t want a separate DVR for OTA local channels.   Not 
sure if Philo does any local channels?
Has FoxSports -

The good news is there are lots of options.   The bad news is that the field is 
still evolving and things change frequently.   However, our primary goal was 
accomplished, which was getting rid of the expensive satellite bill.  (Although 
in the interim that means subscribing to DirecTVNow and YouTube TV 😊 )
Likely we will do DirecTVNow only once the DVR is fully rolled out.   They just 
got the Roku DVR client in Beta in the last week or so, that was a big one for 
us.

Regards,

David Coudron


From: Af  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 1:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

I subscribed but quickly quit the trial as it does not support Roku.  At least 
it didn’t when I was looking at it.
I was too lazy to go get my AppleTV from my theater room and carry it up two 
flights of stairs  too much to ask.
Does it have the Discovery channel?

From: Andy Trimmell
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 12:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

No one has mentioned YouTubeTV. It’s pretty nice and has DVR.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 11:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming


The problem is that this equation won't pencil out for everyone the same way. 
For example, I could not care less about HBO, so that would not be part of my 
decision.

Here are a couple of takes on the various paths to streaming.

https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2478213,00.asp

https://cordcuttingreport.com/cord-cutting-guide/



bp




On 4/2/2018 8:19 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
I had it via SlingTV for $8 or $7 as an add on.
I am not going to get rid of Amazon or Hulu so I will check to see if they have 
a comparable add on for HBO.
Be nice if Philo launched it.

From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 6:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

Can get hbo via Amazon

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 7:27 PM Chuck McCown 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
I just added Philo.  It has discovery.  $16/month.
And it has DVR.  Directvnow still has not launched DVR.

I think it may be the best value.

This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.
However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost alternative to 
adding HBO.

Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly after 
launch, but so far not happening.

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[chuck]

I subscribed but quickly quit the trial as it does not support Roku.  At least 
it didn’t when I was looking at it.
I was too lazy to go get my AppleTV from my theater room and carry it up two 
flights of stairs  too much to ask.  
Does it have the Discovery channel?

From: Andy Trimmell 
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 12:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

No one has mentioned YouTubeTV. It’s pretty nice and has DVR.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 11:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

 

The problem is that this equation won't pencil out for everyone the same way. 
For example, I could not care less about HBO, so that would not be part of my 
decision.

Here are a couple of takes on the various paths to streaming.

https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2478213,00.asp

https://cordcuttingreport.com/cord-cutting-guide/

 

bp On 4/2/2018 8:19 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I had it via SlingTV for $8 or $7 as an add on.  

  I am not going to get rid of Amazon or Hulu so I will check to see if they 
have a comparable add on for HBO.  

  Be nice if Philo launched it.  

   

  From: Josh Reynolds 

  Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 6:30 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

   

  Can get hbo via Amazon

   

  On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 7:27 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

I just added Philo.  It has discovery.  $16/month.

And it has DVR.  Directvnow still has not launched DVR.  

 

I think it may be the best value.  

 

This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.  

However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost alternative 
to adding HBO.

 

Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly after 
launch, but so far not happening.  

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[Andy Trimmell]

No one has mentioned YouTubeTV. It’s pretty nice and has DVR.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 11:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

 

The problem is that this equation won't pencil out for everyone the same way. 
For example, I could not care less about HBO, so that would not be part of my 
decision.

Here are a couple of takes on the various paths to streaming.

https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2478213,00.asp

https://cordcuttingreport.com/cord-cutting-guide/

 

bp

 

On 4/2/2018 8:19 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I had it via SlingTV for $8 or $7 as an add on.  

I am not going to get rid of Amazon or Hulu so I will check to see if 
they have a comparable add on for HBO.  

Be nice if Philo launched it.  

 

From: Josh Reynolds 

Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 6:30 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

 

Can get hbo via Amazon

 

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 7:27 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

I just added Philo.  It has discovery.  $16/month.

And it has DVR.  Directvnow still has not launched DVR.  

 

I think it may be the best value.  

 

This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.  

However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost 
alternative to adding HBO.

 

Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it 
shortly after launch, but so far not happening.  

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[Bill Prince]

The problem is that this equation won't pencil out for everyone the same 
way. For example, I could not care less about HBO, so that would not be 
part of my decision.


Here are a couple of takes on the various paths to streaming.

https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2478213,00.asp

https://cordcuttingreport.com/cord-cutting-guide/


bp


On 4/2/2018 8:19 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I had it via SlingTV for $8 or $7 as an add on.
I am not going to get rid of Amazon or Hulu so I will check to see if 
they have a comparable add on for HBO.

Be nice if Philo launched it.
*From:* Josh Reynolds
*Sent:* Sunday, April 1, 2018 6:30 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming
Can get hbo via Amazon
On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 7:27 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

I just added Philo.  It has discovery. $16/month.
And it has DVR.  Directvnow still has not launched DVR.
I think it may be the best value.
This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.
However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost
alternative to adding HBO.
Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it
shortly after launch, but so far not happening.

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[chuck]

I had it via SlingTV for $8 or $7 as an add on.  
I am not going to get rid of Amazon or Hulu so I will check to see if they have 
a comparable add on for HBO.  
Be nice if Philo launched it.  

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 6:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

Can get hbo via Amazon

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 7:27 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

  I just added Philo.  It has discovery.  $16/month.
  And it has DVR.  Directvnow still has not launched DVR.  

  I think it may be the best value.  

  This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.  
  However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost alternative to 
adding HBO.

  Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly after 
launch, but so far not happening.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[Seth Mattinen]

On 4/2/18 6:16 AM, Dave wrote:

Who in the world still watches HBO ?? LOL



Current productions like Game of Thrones, Silicon Valley, Westworld.

Miniseries like Band of Brothers, Generation Kill, The Pacific, From the 
Earth to the Moon.


HBO has a lot of original programming.

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[Jeremy]

Westworld also has 12 million viewers.  It was the largest ever viewership
for a first-season series on HBO.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 7:49 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> To put that into perspective, that around double the viewership for most
> years men's NCAA Final Four basketball.
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 8:46 AM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
>> Around 30 million just for Game of Thrones... So more than 30 million.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 8:16 AM Dave  wrote:
>>
>>> Who in the world still watches HBO ?? LOL
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/01/2018 07:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> I just added Philo.� It has discovery.� $16/month.
>>> And it has DVR.� Directvnow still has not launched DVR.�
>>> �
>>> I think it may be the best value.�
>>> �
>>> This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.�
>>> However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost
>>> alternative to adding HBO.
>>> �
>>> Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly
>>> after launch, but so far not happening.�
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[Josh Reynolds]

To put that into perspective, that around double the viewership for most
years men's NCAA Final Four basketball.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 8:46 AM Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> Around 30 million just for Game of Thrones... So more than 30 million.
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 8:16 AM Dave  wrote:
>
>> Who in the world still watches HBO ?? LOL
>>
>>
>> On 04/01/2018 07:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> I just added Philo.� It has discovery.� $16/month.
>> And it has DVR.� Directvnow still has not launched DVR.�
>> �
>> I think it may be the best value.�
>> �
>> This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.�
>> However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost
>> alternative to adding HBO.
>> �
>> Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly
>> after launch, but so far not happening.�
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[Dave]

ok, I give ya that one..
I stay over on AMC glued to walking dead


On 04/02/2018 08:46 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Around 30 million just for Game of Thrones... So more than 30 million.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 8:16 AM Dave > wrote:


Who in the world still watches HBO ?? LOL


On 04/01/2018 07:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I just added Philo.� It has discovery.� $16/month.
And it has DVR.� Directvnow still has not launched DVR.�
�
I think it may be the best value.�
�
This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.�
However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost
alternative to adding HBO.
�
Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it
shortly after launch, but so far not happening.�


-- 



--

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[Josh Reynolds]

Around 30 million just for Game of Thrones... So more than 30 million.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 8:16 AM Dave  wrote:

> Who in the world still watches HBO ?? LOL
>
>
> On 04/01/2018 07:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> I just added Philo.� It has discovery.� $16/month.
> And it has DVR.� Directvnow still has not launched DVR.�
> �
> I think it may be the best value.�
> �
> This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.�
> However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost alternative
> to adding HBO.
> �
> Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly
> after launch, but so far not happening.�
>
>
> --
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[Jeremy]

HBONow is $10 through the Roku.  That is what we use.  It isn't the full
HBO, but most everything is on there.

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 7:11 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Yeah, I don't see a compelling reason to get it through Amazon besides
> integration if you use Prime video a lot.
>
>
> On Sunday, April 1, 2018, Darin Steffl  wrote:
>
>> You can get hbo direct for $10 monthly.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 7:30 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>
>>> Can get hbo via Amazon
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 7:27 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 I just added Philo.  It has discovery.  $16/month.
 And it has DVR.  Directvnow still has not launched DVR.

 I think it may be the best value.

 This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.
 However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost
 alternative to adding HBO.

 Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly
 after launch, but so far not happening.

>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[Dave]

Who in the world still watches HBO ?? LOL


On 04/01/2018 07:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I just added Philo.� It has discovery.� $16/month.
And it has DVR.� Directvnow still has not launched DVR.
I think it may be the best value.
This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.
However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost 
alternative to adding HBO.
Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly 
after launch, but so far not happening.


--

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[Jason McKemie]

Yeah, I don't see a compelling reason to get it through Amazon besides
integration if you use Prime video a lot.

On Sunday, April 1, 2018, Darin Steffl  wrote:

> You can get hbo direct for $10 monthly.
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 7:30 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
>> Can get hbo via Amazon
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 7:27 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> I just added Philo.  It has discovery.  $16/month.
>>> And it has DVR.  Directvnow still has not launched DVR.
>>>
>>> I think it may be the best value.
>>>
>>> This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.
>>> However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost
>>> alternative to adding HBO.
>>>
>>> Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly
>>> after launch, but so far not happening.
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[Darin Steffl]

You can get hbo direct for $10 monthly.

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 7:30 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> Can get hbo via Amazon
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 7:27 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> I just added Philo.  It has discovery.  $16/month.
>> And it has DVR.  Directvnow still has not launched DVR.
>>
>> I think it may be the best value.
>>
>> This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.
>> However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost
>> alternative to adding HBO.
>>
>> Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly
>> after launch, but so far not happening.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT streaming

[Josh Reynolds]

Can get hbo via Amazon

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 7:27 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I just added Philo.  It has discovery.  $16/month.
> And it has DVR.  Directvnow still has not launched DVR.
>
> I think it may be the best value.
>
> This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.
> However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost alternative
> to adding HBO.
>
> Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly
> after launch, but so far not happening.
>

[AFMUG] OT streaming

[Chuck McCown]

I just added Philo.  It has discovery.  $16/month.
And it has DVR.  Directvnow still has not launched DVR.  

I think it may be the best value.  

This should allow me to disconnect directvnow and slingtv.  
However I am not disconnecting slingtv until I have a low cost alternative to 
adding HBO.

Philo has HBO as an investor and was supposed to be adding it shortly after 
launch, but so far not happening.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT Streaming

[Paul Stewart]

I understand it will be the same network, same systems etc….. 

> On Mar 1, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:
> 
> On 3/1/17 08:17, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> “YouTube’s service will cost $35 a month, similar to the cheapest deals
>> from AT& T’s DirecTV Now and Sony’s PlayStation Vue, but more expensive
>> than Dish’s Sling TV. It comes with unlimited storage in a cloud DVR; “
> 
> 
> Hmm, I wonder if they'll leverage the existing CDN infrastructure that 
> already feeds YouTube, especially at internet exchanges. If I have to build 
> transport somewhere for a competing TV service that's more costly than 
> YouTube coming off a peering I already have.
> 
> ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] OT Streaming

[Lewis Bergman]

The best you can hope for is to offer the thing that makes your other thing
obsolete.

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017, 12:20 PM Roger Timmerman  wrote:

> It looks like you get 6 accounts for the $35/mo fee.  It will be
> interesting to watch what they do with Google Fiber TV.  Google's own
> customers will potentially be cable cutting to go with Youtube TV.
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>
> I really miss the regional stations on all Streaming services.  WGN and
> MeTV in Chicago.  You can't even get CLTV (all day Chicago news) on
> anything other than Wireline providers.
>
>
> On 3/1/2017 11:33 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>
> On 3/1/17 08:17, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> “YouTube’s service will cost $35 a month, similar to the cheapest deals
> from AT& T’s DirecTV Now and Sony’s PlayStation Vue, but more expensive
> than Dish’s Sling TV. It comes with unlimited storage in a cloud DVR; “
>
>
>
> Hmm, I wonder if they'll leverage the existing CDN infrastructure that
> already feeds YouTube, especially at internet exchanges. If I have to build
> transport somewhere for a competing TV service that's more costly than
> YouTube coming off a peering I already have.
>
> ~Seth
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Streaming

[Roger Timmerman]

It looks like you get 6 accounts for the $35/mo fee.  It will be
interesting to watch what they do with Google Fiber TV.  Google's own
customers will potentially be cable cutting to go with Youtube TV.

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> I really miss the regional stations on all Streaming services.  WGN and
> MeTV in Chicago.  You can't even get CLTV (all day Chicago news) on
> anything other than Wireline providers.
>
>
> On 3/1/2017 11:33 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>
>> On 3/1/17 08:17, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>>> “YouTube’s service will cost $35 a month, similar to the cheapest deals
>>> from AT& T’s DirecTV Now and Sony’s PlayStation Vue, but more expensive
>>> than Dish’s Sling TV. It comes with unlimited storage in a cloud DVR; “
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hmm, I wonder if they'll leverage the existing CDN infrastructure that
>> already feeds YouTube, especially at internet exchanges. If I have to build
>> transport somewhere for a competing TV service that's more costly than
>> YouTube coming off a peering I already have.
>>
>> ~Seth
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Streaming

[Nate Burke]

I really miss the regional stations on all Streaming services.  WGN and 
MeTV in Chicago.  You can't even get CLTV (all day Chicago news) on 
anything other than Wireline providers.


On 3/1/2017 11:33 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:

On 3/1/17 08:17, Chuck McCown wrote:

“YouTube’s service will cost $35 a month, similar to the cheapest deals
from AT& T’s DirecTV Now and Sony’s PlayStation Vue, but more expensive
than Dish’s Sling TV. It comes with unlimited storage in a cloud DVR; “



Hmm, I wonder if they'll leverage the existing CDN infrastructure that 
already feeds YouTube, especially at internet exchanges. If I have to 
build transport somewhere for a competing TV service that's more 
costly than YouTube coming off a peering I already have.


~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] OT Streaming

[Seth Mattinen]

On 3/1/17 08:17, Chuck McCown wrote:

“YouTube’s service will cost $35 a month, similar to the cheapest deals
from AT& T’s DirecTV Now and Sony’s PlayStation Vue, but more expensive
than Dish’s Sling TV. It comes with unlimited storage in a cloud DVR; “



Hmm, I wonder if they'll leverage the existing CDN infrastructure that 
already feeds YouTube, especially at internet exchanges. If I have to 
build transport somewhere for a competing TV service that's more costly 
than YouTube coming off a peering I already have.


~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] OT Streaming

[Chuck McCown]

I should have said, if Sling had Discovery I would cancel Directv Now.

-Original Message- 
From: Bill Prince

Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 9:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Streaming

I also heard something about 8 accounts (might be the wrong number) for
the $35 MRC.


bp


On 3/1/2017 8:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
“YouTube’s service will cost $35 a month, similar to the cheapest deals 
from AT& T’s DirecTV Now and Sony’s PlayStation Vue, but more expensive 
than Dish’s Sling TV. It comes with unlimited storage in a cloud DVR; “


I signed up to be a beta for Hulu yesterday too.
Sling DVR works but isn't as good as satellite TV or my tivo.

I never saw the VUE dvr, I cancelled service when they shut me off without 
warning.


If tivo had Discovery I would cancel the directv now  service.  I keep 
hoping that directv now will get the DVR and ROKU ap running soon.  I like 
its UI and guide.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Streaming

[Bill Prince]

I also heard something about 8 accounts (might be the wrong number) for 
the $35 MRC.



bp


On 3/1/2017 8:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
“YouTube’s service will cost $35 a month, similar to the cheapest 
deals from AT& T’s DirecTV Now and Sony’s PlayStation Vue, but more 
expensive than Dish’s Sling TV. It comes with unlimited storage in a 
cloud DVR; “


I signed up to be a beta for Hulu yesterday too.
Sling DVR works but isn't as good as satellite TV or my tivo.

I never saw the VUE dvr, I cancelled service when they shut me off 
without warning.


If tivo had Discovery I would cancel the directv now  service.  I keep 
hoping that directv now will get the DVR and ROKU ap running soon.  I 
like its UI and guide.

[AFMUG] OT Streaming

[Chuck McCown]

“YouTube’s service will cost $35 a month, similar to the cheapest deals from 
AT& T’s DirecTV Now and Sony’s PlayStation Vue, but more expensive than Dish’s 
Sling TV. It comes with unlimited storage in a cloud DVR; “


I signed up to be a beta for Hulu yesterday too.
Sling DVR works but isn't as good as satellite TV or my tivo.

I never saw the VUE dvr, I cancelled service when they shut me off without 
warning.


If tivo had Discovery I would cancel the directv now  service.  I keep 
hoping that directv now will get the DVR and ROKU ap running soon.  I like 
its UI and guide.