Re: [AFMUG] PS4 troubles

2014-09-18 Thread Jerry Head via Af
@ Patrick: I did assign it to the radio, not the router. That approach 
may be next.

@ Mike: I did turn on UPnP
@ Ken: Thank God that did not happen...

On 9/17/2014 10:13 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
I once had exactly that experience with one specific Xbox Live game.  
It didn't help that customer's son added me to a conference with a 
Microsoft Xbox support rep who kept going on and on about how he sees 
this all the time and the reason is the ISP sucks.



-Original Message- From: Patrick Wheeland via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PS4 troubles

Is the public IP being assigned to their radio which is then 
performing NAT

or are you putting the public IP on their router?  It sounds like you're
assigning it to the radio.  We often times have trouble with this when it
comes to certain games and have to bridge the radio and assign the public
to their router.  Once that's done, the problem goes away.

-Patrick


On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Jerry Head via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

So, a customer's son calls me tonight and asks did you change 
anything on

Monday?
No
He then tells me that he has not been able to play any PS4 games online
since Monday; all other internet services are working, Netflix,Hulu, 
email,

web browsing etc.
We have had some issues in the past with game consoles not liking out 
NAT

(double, or strict they call it)
 In these cases we typically rent a public static IP placed on their CPE
with their home router in the DMZ.
This has always solved the issue beforedid not work tonight 
apparently.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what may be going on here?

Thanks!








Re: [AFMUG] PS4 troubles

2014-09-18 Thread Joseph Marsh via Af
I would had told the xbox rep to kiss my a

Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 17, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
 
 I once had exactly that experience with one specific Xbox Live game.  It 
 didn't help that customer's son added me to a conference with a Microsoft 
 Xbox support rep who kept going on and on about how he sees this all the time 
 and the reason is the ISP sucks.
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Patrick Wheeland via Af
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:20 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PS4 troubles
 
 Is the public IP being assigned to their radio which is then performing NAT
 or are you putting the public IP on their router?  It sounds like you're
 assigning it to the radio.  We often times have trouble with this when it
 comes to certain games and have to bridge the radio and assign the public
 to their router.  Once that's done, the problem goes away.
 
 -Patrick
 
 
 On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Jerry Head via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
 
 So, a customer's son calls me tonight and asks did you change anything on
 Monday?
 No
 He then tells me that he has not been able to play any PS4 games online
 since Monday; all other internet services are working, Netflix,Hulu, email,
 web browsing etc.
 We have had some issues in the past with game consoles not liking out NAT
 (double, or strict they call it)
 In these cases we typically rent a public static IP placed on their CPE
 with their home router in the DMZ.
 This has always solved the issue beforedid not work tonight apparently.
 Does anyone have any suggestions on what may be going on here?
 
 Thanks!
 
 


[AFMUG] PS4 troubles

2014-09-17 Thread Jerry Head via Af
So, a customer's son calls me tonight and asks did you change anything 
on Monday?

No
He then tells me that he has not been able to play any PS4 games online 
since Monday; all other internet services are working, Netflix,Hulu, 
email, web browsing etc.
We have had some issues in the past with game consoles not liking out 
NAT (double, or strict they call it)
 In these cases we typically rent a public static IP placed on their 
CPE with their home router in the DMZ.

This has always solved the issue beforedid not work tonight apparently.
Does anyone have any suggestions on what may be going on here?

Thanks!


Re: [AFMUG] PS4 troubles

2014-09-17 Thread That One Guy via Af
Not your chair, not your problem.
If it worked, and you didnt change anything, then its really not your
problem. That is what 3rd party folks get paid for, whether that is
playstation networks staff, their router vendor, etc. Dont make it your
problem

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Jerry Head via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 So, a customer's son calls me tonight and asks did you change anything on
 Monday?
 No
 He then tells me that he has not been able to play any PS4 games online
 since Monday; all other internet services are working, Netflix,Hulu, email,
 web browsing etc.
 We have had some issues in the past with game consoles not liking out NAT
 (double, or strict they call it)
  In these cases we typically rent a public static IP placed on their CPE
 with their home router in the DMZ.
 This has always solved the issue beforedid not work tonight apparently.
 Does anyone have any suggestions on what may be going on here?

 Thanks!




-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] PS4 troubles

2014-09-17 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
Turn on uPNP. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Jerry Head via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:41:25 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] PS4 troubles 

So, a customer's son calls me tonight and asks did you change anything 
on Monday? 
No 
He then tells me that he has not been able to play any PS4 games online 
since Monday; all other internet services are working, Netflix,Hulu, 
email, web browsing etc. 
We have had some issues in the past with game consoles not liking out 
NAT (double, or strict they call it) 
In these cases we typically rent a public static IP placed on their 
CPE with their home router in the DMZ. 
This has always solved the issue beforedid not work tonight apparently. 
Does anyone have any suggestions on what may be going on here? 

Thanks! 



Re: [AFMUG] PS4 troubles

2014-09-17 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
I once had exactly that experience with one specific Xbox Live game.  It 
didn't help that customer's son added me to a conference with a Microsoft 
Xbox support rep who kept going on and on about how he sees this all the 
time and the reason is the ISP sucks.



-Original Message- 
From: Patrick Wheeland via Af

Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PS4 troubles

Is the public IP being assigned to their radio which is then performing NAT
or are you putting the public IP on their router?  It sounds like you're
assigning it to the radio.  We often times have trouble with this when it
comes to certain games and have to bridge the radio and assign the public
to their router.  Once that's done, the problem goes away.

-Patrick


On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Jerry Head via Af af@afmug.com wrote:


So, a customer's son calls me tonight and asks did you change anything on
Monday?
No
He then tells me that he has not been able to play any PS4 games online
since Monday; all other internet services are working, Netflix,Hulu, 
email,

web browsing etc.
We have had some issues in the past with game consoles not liking out NAT
(double, or strict they call it)
 In these cases we typically rent a public static IP placed on their CPE
with their home router in the DMZ.
This has always solved the issue beforedid not work tonight 
apparently.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what may be going on here?

Thanks!