Re: [AFMUG] Pricing and High Speed Services

2018-04-07 Thread Adair Winter 
you might get a few who will, but that hasn't really been our experience

On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 2:50 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> No. We continue to take on customers. Comcast offers a 200 which we all
> agree most people aren’t using. Really it’s marketing more than people need
> it.
>
> But increasing speed is lowering price.
>
> 10 meg for $50
> 20 meg for $70
> Now
>
>
> So I offer 25 for $50 and 50 for $70. Now my 20meg customers downgrade to
> the $50 plan.
>
> On Apr 7, 2018, at 15:44, Adair Winter 
> wrote:
>
> Increase speed, do not lower price.
> Are you up against competition that is driving you to need to offer speeds
> that fast? If not, make a good comfortable upgrade for the customer and
> leave room to offer more later
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Matt Hoppes  rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> So I'm looking at deploying 60GHz equipment, and we currently have a very
>> small fiber network. With the 60GHz, fiber, and even 5GHz nanopops I can
>> offer huge amounts of bandwidth to end users but I have two questions:
>>
>> * My wholesale bandwidth costs are dirt cheap (that's not a problem just
>> a statement) so picking up the bandwidth is not an issue.
>>
>> * Do end users actually care if I offer them a 200-300-400Megabit plan?
>>
>> * I can offer extremely cheap Internet - like 200 Megabits for $100, or
>> maybe even $75 -- I haven't run a full business case yet. But how do I
>> avoid cannibalizing my existing income?
>> "Oh! You have 200 Megabits for $75? Well then I'd like to downgrade from
>> your $90 for 35 Megabit plan"
>>
>> * Do I throw on some huge data limit? What do you do if an end-user
>> actually decided to use 200megabits 24x7? Sure it's fine if it's temporal
>> usage, but it can't be a 24 x7. Maybe throttle to half the speed if X usage?
>>
>> Still very much in the exploratory stage of all of this -- but working on
>> long term business plans.
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Adair Winter
> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
> C: 806.231.7180
> http://www.amarillowireless.net
> 
>
>
>


-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] Pricing and High Speed Services

2018-04-07 Thread jason 
Don’t tell the existing clients. Quietly upgrade their speed to the new tier. I 
have did me that in the past and no one bat an eye. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 7, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Matt Hoppes  
> wrote:
> 
> No. We continue to take on customers. Comcast offers a 200 which we all agree 
> most people aren’t using. Really it’s marketing more than people need it. 
> 
> But increasing speed is lowering price. 
> 
> 10 meg for $50
> 20 meg for $70
> Now
> 
> 
> So I offer 25 for $50 and 50 for $70. Now my 20meg customers downgrade to the 
> $50 plan. 
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2018, at 15:44, Adair Winter  wrote:
>> 
>> Increase speed, do not lower price.
>> Are you up against competition that is driving you to need to offer speeds 
>> that fast? If not, make a good comfortable upgrade for the customer and 
>> leave room to offer more later
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Matt Hoppes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> So I'm looking at deploying 60GHz equipment, and we currently have a very 
>>> small fiber network. With the 60GHz, fiber, and even 5GHz nanopops I can 
>>> offer huge amounts of bandwidth to end users but I have two questions:
>>> 
>>> * My wholesale bandwidth costs are dirt cheap (that's not a problem just a 
>>> statement) so picking up the bandwidth is not an issue.
>>> 
>>> * Do end users actually care if I offer them a 200-300-400Megabit plan?
>>> 
>>> * I can offer extremely cheap Internet - like 200 Megabits for $100, or 
>>> maybe even $75 -- I haven't run a full business case yet. But how do I 
>>> avoid cannibalizing my existing income?
>>> "Oh! You have 200 Megabits for $75? Well then I'd like to downgrade from 
>>> your $90 for 35 Megabit plan"
>>> 
>>> * Do I throw on some huge data limit? What do you do if an end-user 
>>> actually decided to use 200megabits 24x7? Sure it's fine if it's temporal 
>>> usage, but it can't be a 24 x7. Maybe throttle to half the speed if X usage?
>>> 
>>> Still very much in the exploratory stage of all of this -- but working on 
>>> long term business plans.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Adair Winter
>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
>> C: 806.231.7180
>> http://www.amarillowireless.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Pricing and High Speed Services

2018-04-07 Thread Matt Hoppes 
No. We continue to take on customers. Comcast offers a 200 which we all agree 
most people aren’t using. Really it’s marketing more than people need it. 

But increasing speed is lowering price. 

10 meg for $50
20 meg for $70
Now


So I offer 25 for $50 and 50 for $70. Now my 20meg customers downgrade to the 
$50 plan. 

> On Apr 7, 2018, at 15:44, Adair Winter  wrote:
> 
> Increase speed, do not lower price.
> Are you up against competition that is driving you to need to offer speeds 
> that fast? If not, make a good comfortable upgrade for the customer and leave 
> room to offer more later
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Matt Hoppes 
>>  wrote:
>> So I'm looking at deploying 60GHz equipment, and we currently have a very 
>> small fiber network. With the 60GHz, fiber, and even 5GHz nanopops I can 
>> offer huge amounts of bandwidth to end users but I have two questions:
>> 
>> * My wholesale bandwidth costs are dirt cheap (that's not a problem just a 
>> statement) so picking up the bandwidth is not an issue.
>> 
>> * Do end users actually care if I offer them a 200-300-400Megabit plan?
>> 
>> * I can offer extremely cheap Internet - like 200 Megabits for $100, or 
>> maybe even $75 -- I haven't run a full business case yet. But how do I avoid 
>> cannibalizing my existing income?
>> "Oh! You have 200 Megabits for $75? Well then I'd like to downgrade from 
>> your $90 for 35 Megabit plan"
>> 
>> * Do I throw on some huge data limit? What do you do if an end-user actually 
>> decided to use 200megabits 24x7? Sure it's fine if it's temporal usage, but 
>> it can't be a 24 x7. Maybe throttle to half the speed if X usage?
>> 
>> Still very much in the exploratory stage of all of this -- but working on 
>> long term business plans.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Adair Winter
> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
> C: 806.231.7180
> http://www.amarillowireless.net
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Pricing and High Speed Services

2018-04-07 Thread Adair Winter 
Increase speed, do not lower price.
Are you up against competition that is driving you to need to offer speeds
that fast? If not, make a good comfortable upgrade for the customer and
leave room to offer more later


On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> So I'm looking at deploying 60GHz equipment, and we currently have a very
> small fiber network. With the 60GHz, fiber, and even 5GHz nanopops I can
> offer huge amounts of bandwidth to end users but I have two questions:
>
> * My wholesale bandwidth costs are dirt cheap (that's not a problem just a
> statement) so picking up the bandwidth is not an issue.
>
> * Do end users actually care if I offer them a 200-300-400Megabit plan?
>
> * I can offer extremely cheap Internet - like 200 Megabits for $100, or
> maybe even $75 -- I haven't run a full business case yet. But how do I
> avoid cannibalizing my existing income?
> "Oh! You have 200 Megabits for $75? Well then I'd like to downgrade from
> your $90 for 35 Megabit plan"
>
> * Do I throw on some huge data limit? What do you do if an end-user
> actually decided to use 200megabits 24x7? Sure it's fine if it's temporal
> usage, but it can't be a 24 x7. Maybe throttle to half the speed if X usage?
>
> Still very much in the exploratory stage of all of this -- but working on
> long term business plans.
>



-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net

[AFMUG] Pricing and High Speed Services

2018-04-07 Thread Matt Hoppes 
So I'm looking at deploying 60GHz equipment, and we currently have a 
very small fiber network. With the 60GHz, fiber, and even 5GHz nanopops 
I can offer huge amounts of bandwidth to end users but I have two 
questions:


* My wholesale bandwidth costs are dirt cheap (that's not a problem just 
a statement) so picking up the bandwidth is not an issue.


* Do end users actually care if I offer them a 200-300-400Megabit plan?

* I can offer extremely cheap Internet - like 200 Megabits for $100, or 
maybe even $75 -- I haven't run a full business case yet. But how do I 
avoid cannibalizing my existing income?
"Oh! You have 200 Megabits for $75? Well then I'd like to downgrade from 
your $90 for 35 Megabit plan"


* Do I throw on some huge data limit? What do you do if an end-user 
actually decided to use 200megabits 24x7? Sure it's fine if it's 
temporal usage, but it can't be a 24 x7. Maybe throttle to half the 
speed if X usage?


Still very much in the exploratory stage of all of this -- but working 
on long term business plans.