Re: [AFMUG] Rocket AC low signal?
Yeah, that sounds more like a bad cable or omni or something with the chains being off 10db. On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:40 AM, TJ Trout wrote: > I will have to do the exact path loss calculations to figure out how low > they are but something is def wrong. Esp the chains being 10db off from > each other that's really strange. > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Jeremy wrote: > >> It must be hardware related then. We likely need to start looking at >> date codes. We have 40 AC PBE-400s deployed and have not had one yet with >> this issue. We have another 60 on the shelf. We will have to keep an eye >> out. >> >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Rory Conaway >> wrote: >> >>> We have seen the problem with the 400’s. It explained why a Mimosa >>> B5-Lite with a 5dBi small antenna had the same signal levels as a NanoBeam >>> 400 on a PTP link. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy >>> *Sent:* Monday, June 27, 2016 7:17 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket AC low signal? >>> >>> >>> >>> There is also a thread going on the ubnt forums about low power on AC >>> devices. Robert said they are aware of the problem and that they will >>> either be fixing it in firmware or swapping out feeds. It sounds like it >>> may be a hardware issue. I haven't ran into any of them yet... >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Joe Novak wrote: >>> >>> I have seen odd issues when the SMA is not tight enough.. sometimes they >>> bind while screwing on. Had it happen once or twice. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 1:18 AM, timothy steele < >>> timothy.pct...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> If your chains are off by 10db there is interference or your pointing >>> into power lines corn or part of a tree also that's very close to to the >>> tower be sure you have the right up tilt on the nanobeam and running the >>> latest firmware >>> >>> Also you did not say what nanobeam you have if you are using the small >>> flash light style nano beam many have reported that 1 has a weaker antenna >>> then the old N gear antenna's >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016, 1:32 AM TJ Trout wrote: >>> >>> I have a rocket 5ac lite connected to the large 5ghz omni with two >>> nanobeam ac's connected to it, one about 1000ft away and the other 2000ft >>> away and one has a signal of -70 and the other -64, both are absolutely >>> clear LOS and on both clients the chain 0 and chain 1 are 10db off from >>> each other... >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't think it's possible to get the sma cables reversed so it can't >>> be backwards, both units are at full power 26 and 27dbm on the rocket, I >>> would expect like -30 or -40 at this distance... >>> >>> >>> >>> Any idea what I'm doing wrong here? This is my first test of AC but I >>> know with the N stuff the signal would be atleast 20db better at the same >>> output power... >>> >>> >>> >>> Ideas? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket AC low signal?
I will have to do the exact path loss calculations to figure out how low they are but something is def wrong. Esp the chains being 10db off from each other that's really strange. On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Jeremy wrote: > It must be hardware related then. We likely need to start looking at date > codes. We have 40 AC PBE-400s deployed and have not had one yet with this > issue. We have another 60 on the shelf. We will have to keep an eye out. > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Rory Conaway > wrote: > >> We have seen the problem with the 400’s. It explained why a Mimosa >> B5-Lite with a 5dBi small antenna had the same signal levels as a NanoBeam >> 400 on a PTP link. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy >> *Sent:* Monday, June 27, 2016 7:17 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket AC low signal? >> >> >> >> There is also a thread going on the ubnt forums about low power on AC >> devices. Robert said they are aware of the problem and that they will >> either be fixing it in firmware or swapping out feeds. It sounds like it >> may be a hardware issue. I haven't ran into any of them yet... >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Joe Novak wrote: >> >> I have seen odd issues when the SMA is not tight enough.. sometimes they >> bind while screwing on. Had it happen once or twice. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 1:18 AM, timothy steele >> wrote: >> >> If your chains are off by 10db there is interference or your pointing >> into power lines corn or part of a tree also that's very close to to the >> tower be sure you have the right up tilt on the nanobeam and running the >> latest firmware >> >> Also you did not say what nanobeam you have if you are using the small >> flash light style nano beam many have reported that 1 has a weaker antenna >> then the old N gear antenna's >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016, 1:32 AM TJ Trout wrote: >> >> I have a rocket 5ac lite connected to the large 5ghz omni with two >> nanobeam ac's connected to it, one about 1000ft away and the other 2000ft >> away and one has a signal of -70 and the other -64, both are absolutely >> clear LOS and on both clients the chain 0 and chain 1 are 10db off from >> each other... >> >> >> >> I don't think it's possible to get the sma cables reversed so it can't be >> backwards, both units are at full power 26 and 27dbm on the rocket, I would >> expect like -30 or -40 at this distance... >> >> >> >> Any idea what I'm doing wrong here? This is my first test of AC but I >> know with the N stuff the signal would be atleast 20db better at the same >> output power... >> >> >> >> Ideas? >> >> >> >> >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket AC low signal?
It must be hardware related then. We likely need to start looking at date codes. We have 40 AC PBE-400s deployed and have not had one yet with this issue. We have another 60 on the shelf. We will have to keep an eye out. On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: > We have seen the problem with the 400’s. It explained why a Mimosa > B5-Lite with a 5dBi small antenna had the same signal levels as a NanoBeam > 400 on a PTP link. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy > *Sent:* Monday, June 27, 2016 7:17 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket AC low signal? > > > > There is also a thread going on the ubnt forums about low power on AC > devices. Robert said they are aware of the problem and that they will > either be fixing it in firmware or swapping out feeds. It sounds like it > may be a hardware issue. I haven't ran into any of them yet... > > > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Joe Novak wrote: > > I have seen odd issues when the SMA is not tight enough.. sometimes they > bind while screwing on. Had it happen once or twice. > > > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 1:18 AM, timothy steele > wrote: > > If your chains are off by 10db there is interference or your pointing into > power lines corn or part of a tree also that's very close to to the tower > be sure you have the right up tilt on the nanobeam and running the latest > firmware > > Also you did not say what nanobeam you have if you are using the small > flash light style nano beam many have reported that 1 has a weaker antenna > then the old N gear antenna's > > > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2016, 1:32 AM TJ Trout wrote: > > I have a rocket 5ac lite connected to the large 5ghz omni with two > nanobeam ac's connected to it, one about 1000ft away and the other 2000ft > away and one has a signal of -70 and the other -64, both are absolutely > clear LOS and on both clients the chain 0 and chain 1 are 10db off from > each other... > > > > I don't think it's possible to get the sma cables reversed so it can't be > backwards, both units are at full power 26 and 27dbm on the rocket, I would > expect like -30 or -40 at this distance... > > > > Any idea what I'm doing wrong here? This is my first test of AC but I know > with the N stuff the signal would be atleast 20db better at the same output > power... > > > > Ideas? > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket AC low signal?
We have seen the problem with the 400’s. It explained why a Mimosa B5-Lite with a 5dBi small antenna had the same signal levels as a NanoBeam 400 on a PTP link. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 7:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket AC low signal? There is also a thread going on the ubnt forums about low power on AC devices. Robert said they are aware of the problem and that they will either be fixing it in firmware or swapping out feeds. It sounds like it may be a hardware issue. I haven't ran into any of them yet... On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Joe Novak mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com>> wrote: I have seen odd issues when the SMA is not tight enough.. sometimes they bind while screwing on. Had it happen once or twice. On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 1:18 AM, timothy steele mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> wrote: If your chains are off by 10db there is interference or your pointing into power lines corn or part of a tree also that's very close to to the tower be sure you have the right up tilt on the nanobeam and running the latest firmware Also you did not say what nanobeam you have if you are using the small flash light style nano beam many have reported that 1 has a weaker antenna then the old N gear antenna's On Mon, Jun 27, 2016, 1:32 AM TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com>> wrote: I have a rocket 5ac lite connected to the large 5ghz omni with two nanobeam ac's connected to it, one about 1000ft away and the other 2000ft away and one has a signal of -70 and the other -64, both are absolutely clear LOS and on both clients the chain 0 and chain 1 are 10db off from each other... I don't think it's possible to get the sma cables reversed so it can't be backwards, both units are at full power 26 and 27dbm on the rocket, I would expect like -30 or -40 at this distance... Any idea what I'm doing wrong here? This is my first test of AC but I know with the N stuff the signal would be atleast 20db better at the same output power... Ideas?
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket AC low signal?
There is also a thread going on the ubnt forums about low power on AC devices. Robert said they are aware of the problem and that they will either be fixing it in firmware or swapping out feeds. It sounds like it may be a hardware issue. I haven't ran into any of them yet... On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Joe Novak wrote: > I have seen odd issues when the SMA is not tight enough.. sometimes they > bind while screwing on. Had it happen once or twice. > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 1:18 AM, timothy steele > wrote: > >> If your chains are off by 10db there is interference or your pointing >> into power lines corn or part of a tree also that's very close to to the >> tower be sure you have the right up tilt on the nanobeam and running the >> latest firmware >> >> Also you did not say what nanobeam you have if you are using the small >> flash light style nano beam many have reported that 1 has a weaker antenna >> then the old N gear antenna's >> >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016, 1:32 AM TJ Trout wrote: >> >>> I have a rocket 5ac lite connected to the large 5ghz omni with two >>> nanobeam ac's connected to it, one about 1000ft away and the other 2000ft >>> away and one has a signal of -70 and the other -64, both are absolutely >>> clear LOS and on both clients the chain 0 and chain 1 are 10db off from >>> each other... >>> >>> I don't think it's possible to get the sma cables reversed so it can't >>> be backwards, both units are at full power 26 and 27dbm on the rocket, I >>> would expect like -30 or -40 at this distance... >>> >>> Any idea what I'm doing wrong here? This is my first test of AC but I >>> know with the N stuff the signal would be atleast 20db better at the same >>> output power... >>> >>> Ideas? >>> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket AC low signal?
I have seen odd issues when the SMA is not tight enough.. sometimes they bind while screwing on. Had it happen once or twice. On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 1:18 AM, timothy steele wrote: > If your chains are off by 10db there is interference or your pointing into > power lines corn or part of a tree also that's very close to to the tower > be sure you have the right up tilt on the nanobeam and running the latest > firmware > > Also you did not say what nanobeam you have if you are using the small > flash light style nano beam many have reported that 1 has a weaker antenna > then the old N gear antenna's > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2016, 1:32 AM TJ Trout wrote: > >> I have a rocket 5ac lite connected to the large 5ghz omni with two >> nanobeam ac's connected to it, one about 1000ft away and the other 2000ft >> away and one has a signal of -70 and the other -64, both are absolutely >> clear LOS and on both clients the chain 0 and chain 1 are 10db off from >> each other... >> >> I don't think it's possible to get the sma cables reversed so it can't be >> backwards, both units are at full power 26 and 27dbm on the rocket, I would >> expect like -30 or -40 at this distance... >> >> Any idea what I'm doing wrong here? This is my first test of AC but I >> know with the N stuff the signal would be atleast 20db better at the same >> output power... >> >> Ideas? >> >
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket AC low signal?
If your chains are off by 10db there is interference or your pointing into power lines corn or part of a tree also that's very close to to the tower be sure you have the right up tilt on the nanobeam and running the latest firmware Also you did not say what nanobeam you have if you are using the small flash light style nano beam many have reported that 1 has a weaker antenna then the old N gear antenna's On Mon, Jun 27, 2016, 1:32 AM TJ Trout wrote: > I have a rocket 5ac lite connected to the large 5ghz omni with two > nanobeam ac's connected to it, one about 1000ft away and the other 2000ft > away and one has a signal of -70 and the other -64, both are absolutely > clear LOS and on both clients the chain 0 and chain 1 are 10db off from > each other... > > I don't think it's possible to get the sma cables reversed so it can't be > backwards, both units are at full power 26 and 27dbm on the rocket, I would > expect like -30 or -40 at this distance... > > Any idea what I'm doing wrong here? This is my first test of AC but I know > with the N stuff the signal would be atleast 20db better at the same output > power... > > Ideas? >
[AFMUG] Rocket AC low signal?
I have a rocket 5ac lite connected to the large 5ghz omni with two nanobeam ac's connected to it, one about 1000ft away and the other 2000ft away and one has a signal of -70 and the other -64, both are absolutely clear LOS and on both clients the chain 0 and chain 1 are 10db off from each other... I don't think it's possible to get the sma cables reversed so it can't be backwards, both units are at full power 26 and 27dbm on the rocket, I would expect like -30 or -40 at this distance... Any idea what I'm doing wrong here? This is my first test of AC but I know with the N stuff the signal would be atleast 20db better at the same output power... Ideas?
