Re: [AFMUG] SLA

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick Leary
Not trying to be cagey below; I'm just cautious. If I answer that question, it 
is a lot like answering when I stopped beating my wife. If I answered, 
competion would be cutting and pasting to make it look like we charge SLAs JUST 
for software updates. We do not.

Patrick Leary
 M 727.501.3735 






-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k

There is no SLA for just firmware updates.

Patrick Leary
 M 727.501.3735 






-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k

How much is the SLA for firmware updates?


On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote:
 No. SLA, yes, but SLAs are normal to maintain support and to get software 
 upgrades (not just bug fixes)...and in our case, soon network monitoring free 
 for the first year from our own data center.

 Patrick Leary
  M 727.501.3735






 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:44 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k

 Quite not the case. Ever price typical LTE? And our licenses you own once 
 first bought, with no annual renewals.

 Thought there was an annual license fee to get firmware updates etc?





 Patrick Leary

 M 727.501.3735





 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
 Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 11:25 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k



 The sauce better be really really good with all of those licenses.
 Seems like u have a license for just about everything ? :)

 On Mar 3, 2015 8:20 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com 
 wrote:

 Is there frequency re-use with a 3 BTS setup? If there is re-use, what's the 
 penalty?

 On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 3x 65s for 360* coverage.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 

 From: Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 9:07:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k

 Is there a 90 degree sector or are you using 65 degree sectors in a 4 BTS 
 cluster?

 On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote:

 Only 2 models, the 3.65 (actually 3.4-3.7) COMPACT 1000 or the 2.x
 (2.3 and 2.5) COMPACT 3000. I included the 3.65 version. The 2.5 is 
 all the same, save for the BTS price, which is about $5k higher (but
 40 dBm per port and 43 pounds of brute power, compared to the 18 
 pound COMPACT 1000)



 Patrick Leary

 M 727.501.3735





 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
 Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:36 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k



 Which base station are you quoting, and what are the basic differences 
 between the models?

 On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote:

 Think of all the EPC options (and there are 3 forms) as shells:



 1 is an shell embedded as a piece of software inside EACH BTS...a total one 
 box solution (we can do that since we are a SDR).

 1 is a shell that's a small (1/2U) appliance supporting up to 10k subs and 2 
 gigs. These are stackable and with our NPV option is infinitely stackable.



 Into each shell option you plug in ONLY the functionality you need:



 Connecting to an external Radius? Buy that module. Don't need to? Don't get 
 it.

 If not above, then doing MAC level authentication instead? Buy the iHSSS 
 module.

 PCRF module. Doing service flows and dedicated bearers? Get that. Don't, 
 then don't.

 Need Layer 2, get that. Don't? Dont.



 These modules are in price relative to the version of EPC (baby, momma or 
 papa bear size).



 Patrick Leary

 M 727.501.3735





 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
 Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:23 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k



 Never mind, I see that now. How much is the 50 user license?

 On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com 
 wrote:

 Is the 50 user limit just a guideline or a software limitation?

 On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote:

 One BTS, included embedded EPC with MAC level authentication (cheapest 
 option) supporting up to 50 clients. Antenna could be swapped for any other. 
 NOTE: this exclude any NMS pieces, but you could just connect over Telnet or 
 direct connect. This would be the BAREST of bones, but there it is. That's 
 still LTE and about 100 Mbps with killer NLOS.



 Includes:



 735270

 CMP.XT-BS-3.4-3.7

 1

 715773

 LTE COMPACT SW License

 1

 700258

 BMAX-4M-GPS

 1

 300736

 ANT 3.3-3.8GHz,18 dBi, 65deg, 4ports
 (RF cables 

Re: [AFMUG] SLA

2015-03-04 Thread Jason McKemie
So is there any way to get software updates outside of the SLA?

On Wednesday, March 4, 2015, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote:

 Not trying to be cagey below; I'm just cautious. If I answer that
 question, it is a lot like answering when I stopped beating my wife. If I
 answered, competion would be cutting and pasting to make it look like we
 charge SLAs JUST for software updates. We do not.

 Patrick Leary
  M 727.501.3735






 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com javascript:;] On Behalf Of
 Patrick Leary
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:04 PM
 To: af@afmug.com javascript:;
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k

 There is no SLA for just firmware updates.

 Patrick Leary
  M 727.501.3735






 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com javascript:;] On Behalf Of Matt
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:01 PM
 To: af@afmug.com javascript:;
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k

 How much is the SLA for firmware updates?


 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com
 javascript:; wrote:
  No. SLA, yes, but SLAs are normal to maintain support and to get
 software upgrades (not just bug fixes)...and in our case, soon network
 monitoring free for the first year from our own data center.
 
  Patrick Leary
   M 727.501.3735
 
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com javascript:;] On Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:44 AM
  To: af@afmug.com javascript:;
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k
 
  Quite not the case. Ever price typical LTE? And our licenses you own
 once first bought, with no annual renewals.
 
  Thought there was an annual license fee to get firmware updates etc?
 
 
 
 
 
  Patrick Leary
 
  M 727.501.3735
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com javascript:;] On Behalf Of TJ
 Trout
  Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 11:25 PM
  To: af@afmug.com javascript:;
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k
 
 
 
  The sauce better be really really good with all of those licenses.
  Seems like u have a license for just about everything ? :)
 
  On Mar 3, 2015 8:20 PM, Jason McKemie 
 j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com javascript:; wrote:
 
  Is there frequency re-use with a 3 BTS setup? If there is re-use,
 what's the penalty?
 
  On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 javascript:; wrote:
 
  3x 65s for 360* coverage.
 
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
  
 
  From: Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com javascript:;
  To: af@afmug.com javascript:;
  Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 9:07:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k
 
  Is there a 90 degree sector or are you using 65 degree sectors in a 4
 BTS cluster?
 
  On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com
 javascript:; wrote:
 
  Only 2 models, the 3.65 (actually 3.4-3.7) COMPACT 1000 or the 2.x
  (2.3 and 2.5) COMPACT 3000. I included the 3.65 version. The 2.5 is
  all the same, save for the BTS price, which is about $5k higher (but
  40 dBm per port and 43 pounds of brute power, compared to the 18
  pound COMPACT 1000)
 
 
 
  Patrick Leary
 
  M 727.501.3735
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com javascript:;] On Behalf Of
 Jason McKemie
  Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:36 PM
  To: af@afmug.com javascript:;
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k
 
 
 
  Which base station are you quoting, and what are the basic differences
 between the models?
 
  On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com
 javascript:; wrote:
 
  Think of all the EPC options (and there are 3 forms) as shells:
 
 
 
  1 is an shell embedded as a piece of software inside EACH BTS...a total
 one box solution (we can do that since we are a SDR).
 
  1 is a shell that's a small (1/2U) appliance supporting up to 10k subs
 and 2 gigs. These are stackable and with our NPV option is infinitely
 stackable.
 
 
 
  Into each shell option you plug in ONLY the functionality you need:
 
 
 
  Connecting to an external Radius? Buy that module. Don't need to? Don't
 get it.
 
  If not above, then doing MAC level authentication instead? Buy the
 iHSSS module.
 
  PCRF module. Doing service flows and dedicated bearers? Get that.
 Don't, then don't.
 
  Need Layer 2, get that. Don't? Dont.
 
 
 
  These modules are in price relative to the version of EPC (baby, momma
 or papa bear size).
 
 
 
  Patrick Leary
 
  M 727.501.3735
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com javascript:;] On Behalf Of
 Jason McKemie
  Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:23 PM
  To: af@afmug.com javascript:;
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k
 
 
 
  Never mind, I see that now. How much is the 50 user license?
 
  On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Jason McKemie 
 j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com javascript:; wrote:
 
  Is the 50 user limit just a guideline or a software limitation?
 
  On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary 

[AFMUG] SLA

2014-12-09 Thread Jeremy via Af
Anyone willing to share their SLA for dedicated connections?? TIA