Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[Chris Fabien]

I would not advise then you're going to move it, I would just maybe email
their NOC to let them know the circuit will be going down for maintenance,
that is usually appreciated.

If there is enough slack cable I would try to redo the entrance to the safe
room location, including moving their panel and re-terminating. If not,
just run a patch like Matt said.

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 4:28 PM Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> should i even tell spectrum what im doing or just do it?
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Chris Fabien  wrote:
>
>> In all seriousness I would just move it yourself, if you don't have the
>> ability just find a splicer to do it on a Saturday. If you send some pics
>> we can give further advice but this is straightforward for any fiber tech
>> to do.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 8:26 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Need to move it because building a data center in an existing building
>>> and the finished room will be tornado proof which the original demarc
>>> location is not.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Matt Hoppes <
>>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or just let it be and run new fiber from the DMarc to the NID or your
>>>> router.
>>>>
>>>> Why do you need to move the dmarc?
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 31, 2018, at 13:13, TJ Trout  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> move it yourself. If it was cat5 you wouldn't have a problem right?
>>>> Fiber is easier to work on then cat5 in my opinion, it seems intimidating
>>>> but it's not. Get some AFL fast connectors and a coupler and move that 
>>>> B
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:00 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just go tear it off the building.  Put up some siding or something.
>>>>> Call in a trouble.  When they come out blame some other contractor.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 31, 2018 6:32 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>>>>
>>>>> You should add an "lol" or a smiley face or something so that readers
>>>>> know you're joking.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>>> From: "Chris Fabien" 
>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>> Sent: 3/30/2018 12:55:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, you say it's always been installed here, your records must be
>>>>> wrong, now get to fixing it, SLA clock is ticking
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 10:44 AM Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I probably could that would be interesting if i called tech support
>>>>>> and said i tried moving the fiber now it dont work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Chris Fabien 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you just move it yourself? We have done that before.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:41 AM Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for the
>>>>>>>> spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the process like? Did 
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> charge you for the move of the demarc spot? How much of a PITA was it 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> move it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[Matt Hoppes]

You have redundant circuits don’t you? :)

> On Apr 1, 2018, at 17:03, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
> 
> as long as the network stays running, thats the biggest thing i need to worry 
> about
> 
>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Darin Steffl  wrote:
>> If you have a tornado or fire, don't you have bigger things to worry about? 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 3:37 PM Kurt Fankhauser  
>>> wrote:
>>> Matt, but then if i get hit by a tornado or have a fire contained in part 
>>> of the building the original demarc location is going to melt down while 
>>> the rest of the equipment is in the more secure room so the whole circuit 
>>> is down which makes me feel un-easy.
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 4:32 PM, Matt Hoppes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> If you can just plug into their D Mark point and move fiber I don’t even 
>>>> see why I would tell them, I would try to leave their fiber patch box in 
>>>> place and just run a new longer patch cable to your new location
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 1, 2018, at 16:28, Kurt Fankhauser  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> should i even tell spectrum what im doing or just do it?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Chris Fabien  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> In all seriousness I would just move it yourself, if you don't have the 
>>>>>> ability just find a splicer to do it on a Saturday. If you send some 
>>>>>> pics we can give further advice but this is straightforward for any 
>>>>>> fiber tech to do. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 8:26 AM Kurt Fankhauser  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Need to move it because building a data center in an existing building 
>>>>>>> and the finished room will be tornado proof which the original demarc 
>>>>>>> location is not. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Matt Hoppes 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Or just let it be and run new fiber from the DMarc to the NID or your 
>>>>>>>> router. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Why do you need to move the dmarc?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 31, 2018, at 13:13, TJ Trout  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> move it yourself. If it was cat5 you wouldn't have a problem right? 
>>>>>>>>> Fiber is easier to work on then cat5 in my opinion, it seems 
>>>>>>>>> intimidating but it's not. Get some AFL fast connectors and a coupler 
>>>>>>>>> and move that B
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:00 AM, Chuck McCown  
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Just go tear it off the building.  Put up some siding or something.  
>>>>>>>>>> Call in a trouble.  When they come out blame some other contractor.  
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> From: Adam Moffett
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 6:32 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> You should add an "lol" or a smiley face or something so that 
>>>>>>>>>> readers know you're joking.
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Chris Fabien" 
>>>>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 3/30/2018 12:55:43 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>> No, you say it's always been installed here, your records must be 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrong, now get to fixing it, SLA clock is ticking
>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 10:44 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I probably could that would be interesting if i called tech 
>>>>>>>>>>>> support and said i tried moving the fiber now it dont work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Chris Fabien 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you just move it yourself? We have done that before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:41 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the process 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like? Did they charge you for the move of the demarc spot? How 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much of a PITA was it to move it?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[Kurt Fankhauser]

as long as the network stays running, thats the biggest thing i need to
worry about

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Darin Steffl 
wrote:

> If you have a tornado or fire, don't you have bigger things to worry
> about?
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 3:37 PM Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
>> Matt, but then if i get hit by a tornado or have a fire contained in part
>> of the building the original demarc location is going to melt down while
>> the rest of the equipment is in the more secure room so the whole circuit
>> is down which makes me feel un-easy.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 4:32 PM, Matt Hoppes > rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> If you can just plug into their D Mark point and move fiber I don’t even
>>> see why I would tell them, I would try to leave their fiber patch box in
>>> place and just run a new longer patch cable to your new location
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2018, at 16:28, Kurt Fankhauser 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> should i even tell spectrum what im doing or just do it?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Chris Fabien 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In all seriousness I would just move it yourself, if you don't have the
>>>> ability just find a splicer to do it on a Saturday. If you send some pics
>>>> we can give further advice but this is straightforward for any fiber tech
>>>> to do.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 8:26 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Need to move it because building a data center in an existing building
>>>>> and the finished room will be tornado proof which the original demarc
>>>>> location is not.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Matt Hoppes >>>> rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Or just let it be and run new fiber from the DMarc to the NID or your
>>>>>> router.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do you need to move the dmarc?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 31, 2018, at 13:13, TJ Trout  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> move it yourself. If it was cat5 you wouldn't have a problem right?
>>>>>> Fiber is easier to work on then cat5 in my opinion, it seems intimidating
>>>>>> but it's not. Get some AFL fast connectors and a coupler and move that 
>>>>>> B
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:00 AM, Chuck McCown 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just go tear it off the building.  Put up some siding or something.
>>>>>>> Call in a trouble.  When they come out blame some other contractor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 31, 2018 6:32 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You should add an "lol" or a smiley face or something so that
>>>>>>> readers know you're joking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>>>>> From: "Chris Fabien" 
>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> Sent: 3/30/2018 12:55:43 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, you say it's always been installed here, your records must be
>>>>>>> wrong, now get to fixing it, SLA clock is ticking
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 10:44 AM Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I probably could that would be interesting if i called tech support
>>>>>>>> and said i tried moving the fiber now it dont work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Chris Fabien 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you just move it yourself? We have done that before.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:41 AM Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>>>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for
>>>>>>>>>> the spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the process 
>>>>>>>>>> like? Did
>>>>>>>>>> they charge you for the move of the demarc spot? How much of a PITA 
>>>>>>>>>> was it
>>>>>>>>>> to move it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[Darin Steffl]

If you have a tornado or fire, don't you have bigger things to worry about?

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 3:37 PM Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> Matt, but then if i get hit by a tornado or have a fire contained in part
> of the building the original demarc location is going to melt down while
> the rest of the equipment is in the more secure room so the whole circuit
> is down which makes me feel un-easy.
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 4:32 PM, Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> If you can just plug into their D Mark point and move fiber I don’t even
>> see why I would tell them, I would try to leave their fiber patch box in
>> place and just run a new longer patch cable to your new location
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2018, at 16:28, Kurt Fankhauser 
>> wrote:
>>
>> should i even tell spectrum what im doing or just do it?
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Chris Fabien  wrote:
>>
>>> In all seriousness I would just move it yourself, if you don't have the
>>> ability just find a splicer to do it on a Saturday. If you send some pics
>>> we can give further advice but this is straightforward for any fiber tech
>>> to do.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 8:26 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Need to move it because building a data center in an existing building
>>>> and the finished room will be tornado proof which the original demarc
>>>> location is not.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Matt Hoppes <
>>>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Or just let it be and run new fiber from the DMarc to the NID or your
>>>>> router.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you need to move the dmarc?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 31, 2018, at 13:13, TJ Trout  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> move it yourself. If it was cat5 you wouldn't have a problem right?
>>>>> Fiber is easier to work on then cat5 in my opinion, it seems intimidating
>>>>> but it's not. Get some AFL fast connectors and a coupler and move that 
>>>>> B
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:00 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just go tear it off the building.  Put up some siding or something.
>>>>>> Call in a trouble.  When they come out blame some other contractor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 31, 2018 6:32 AM
>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You should add an "lol" or a smiley face or something so that readers
>>>>>> know you're joking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>>>> From: "Chris Fabien" 
>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Sent: 3/30/2018 12:55:43 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, you say it's always been installed here, your records must be
>>>>>> wrong, now get to fixing it, SLA clock is ticking
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 10:44 AM Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I probably could that would be interesting if i called tech support
>>>>>>> and said i tried moving the fiber now it dont work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Chris Fabien 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you just move it yourself? We have done that before.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:41 AM Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for the
>>>>>>>>> spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the process like? Did 
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> charge you for the move of the demarc spot? How much of a PITA was it 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> move it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Matt, but then if i get hit by a tornado or have a fire contained in part
of the building the original demarc location is going to melt down while
the rest of the equipment is in the more secure room so the whole circuit
is down which makes me feel un-easy.

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 4:32 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> If you can just plug into their D Mark point and move fiber I don’t even
> see why I would tell them, I would try to leave their fiber patch box in
> place and just run a new longer patch cable to your new location
>
> On Apr 1, 2018, at 16:28, Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
> should i even tell spectrum what im doing or just do it?
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Chris Fabien  wrote:
>
>> In all seriousness I would just move it yourself, if you don't have the
>> ability just find a splicer to do it on a Saturday. If you send some pics
>> we can give further advice but this is straightforward for any fiber tech
>> to do.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 8:26 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Need to move it because building a data center in an existing building
>>> and the finished room will be tornado proof which the original demarc
>>> location is not.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Matt Hoppes <
>>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or just let it be and run new fiber from the DMarc to the NID or your
>>>> router.
>>>>
>>>> Why do you need to move the dmarc?
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 31, 2018, at 13:13, TJ Trout  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> move it yourself. If it was cat5 you wouldn't have a problem right?
>>>> Fiber is easier to work on then cat5 in my opinion, it seems intimidating
>>>> but it's not. Get some AFL fast connectors and a coupler and move that 
>>>> B
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:00 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just go tear it off the building.  Put up some siding or something.
>>>>> Call in a trouble.  When they come out blame some other contractor.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 31, 2018 6:32 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>>>>
>>>>> You should add an "lol" or a smiley face or something so that readers
>>>>> know you're joking.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>>> From: "Chris Fabien" 
>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>> Sent: 3/30/2018 12:55:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, you say it's always been installed here, your records must be
>>>>> wrong, now get to fixing it, SLA clock is ticking
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 10:44 AM Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I probably could that would be interesting if i called tech support
>>>>>> and said i tried moving the fiber now it dont work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Chris Fabien 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you just move it yourself? We have done that before.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:41 AM Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for the
>>>>>>>> spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the process like? Did 
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> charge you for the move of the demarc spot? How much of a PITA was it 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> move it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[Matt Hoppes]

If you can just plug into their D Mark point and move fiber I don’t even see 
why I would tell them, I would try to leave their fiber patch box in place and 
just run a new longer patch cable to your new location

> On Apr 1, 2018, at 16:28, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
> 
> should i even tell spectrum what im doing or just do it?
> 
>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Chris Fabien  wrote:
>> In all seriousness I would just move it yourself, if you don't have the 
>> ability just find a splicer to do it on a Saturday. If you send some pics we 
>> can give further advice but this is straightforward for any fiber tech to 
>> do. 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 8:26 AM Kurt Fankhauser  
>>> wrote:
>>> Need to move it because building a data center in an existing building and 
>>> the finished room will be tornado proof which the original demarc location 
>>> is not. 
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Matt Hoppes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Or just let it be and run new fiber from the DMarc to the NID or your 
>>>> router. 
>>>> 
>>>> Why do you need to move the dmarc?
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 31, 2018, at 13:13, TJ Trout  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> move it yourself. If it was cat5 you wouldn't have a problem right? Fiber 
>>>>> is easier to work on then cat5 in my opinion, it seems intimidating but 
>>>>> it's not. Get some AFL fast connectors and a coupler and move that B
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:00 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>>>> Just go tear it off the building.  Put up some siding or something.  
>>>>>> Call in a trouble.  When they come out blame some other contractor. 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> From: Adam Moffett
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 6:32 AM
>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> You should add an "lol" or a smiley face or something so that readers 
>>>>>> know you're joking.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>>>> From: "Chris Fabien" 
>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Sent: 3/30/2018 12:55:43 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> No, you say it's always been installed here, your records must be 
>>>>>>> wrong, now get to fixing it, SLA clock is ticking
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 10:44 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> I probably could that would be interesting if i called tech support 
>>>>>>>> and said i tried moving the fiber now it dont work.
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Chris Fabien  
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Can you just move it yourself? We have done that before.
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:41 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for the 
>>>>>>>>>> spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the process like? 
>>>>>>>>>> Did they charge you for the move of the demarc spot? How much of a 
>>>>>>>>>> PITA was it to move it?
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[Kurt Fankhauser]

should i even tell spectrum what im doing or just do it?

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Chris Fabien  wrote:

> In all seriousness I would just move it yourself, if you don't have the
> ability just find a splicer to do it on a Saturday. If you send some pics
> we can give further advice but this is straightforward for any fiber tech
> to do.
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 8:26 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
>> Need to move it because building a data center in an existing building
>> and the finished room will be tornado proof which the original demarc
>> location is not.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Matt Hoppes > rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Or just let it be and run new fiber from the DMarc to the NID or your
>>> router.
>>>
>>> Why do you need to move the dmarc?
>>>
>>> On Mar 31, 2018, at 13:13, TJ Trout  wrote:
>>>
>>> move it yourself. If it was cat5 you wouldn't have a problem right?
>>> Fiber is easier to work on then cat5 in my opinion, it seems intimidating
>>> but it's not. Get some AFL fast connectors and a coupler and move that B
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:00 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just go tear it off the building.  Put up some siding or something.
>>>> Call in a trouble.  When they come out blame some other contractor.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 31, 2018 6:32 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>>>
>>>> You should add an "lol" or a smiley face or something so that readers
>>>> know you're joking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>> From: "Chris Fabien" 
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Sent: 3/30/2018 12:55:43 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, you say it's always been installed here, your records must be
>>>> wrong, now get to fixing it, SLA clock is ticking
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 10:44 AM Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I probably could that would be interesting if i called tech support
>>>>> and said i tried moving the fiber now it dont work.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Chris Fabien 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you just move it yourself? We have done that before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:41 AM Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for the
>>>>>>> spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the process like? Did 
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> charge you for the move of the demarc spot? How much of a PITA was it to
>>>>>>> move it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[Chris Fabien]

In all seriousness I would just move it yourself, if you don't have the
ability just find a splicer to do it on a Saturday. If you send some pics
we can give further advice but this is straightforward for any fiber tech
to do.

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 8:26 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> Need to move it because building a data center in an existing building and
> the finished room will be tornado proof which the original demarc location
> is not.
>
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> Or just let it be and run new fiber from the DMarc to the NID or your
>> router.
>>
>> Why do you need to move the dmarc?
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2018, at 13:13, TJ Trout  wrote:
>>
>> move it yourself. If it was cat5 you wouldn't have a problem right? Fiber
>> is easier to work on then cat5 in my opinion, it seems intimidating but
>> it's not. Get some AFL fast connectors and a coupler and move that B
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:00 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Just go tear it off the building.  Put up some siding or something.
>>> Call in a trouble.  When they come out blame some other contractor.
>>>
>>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 31, 2018 6:32 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>>
>>> You should add an "lol" or a smiley face or something so that readers
>>> know you're joking.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Chris Fabien" 
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: 3/30/2018 12:55:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>>
>>>
>>> No, you say it's always been installed here, your records must be wrong,
>>> now get to fixing it, SLA clock is ticking
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 10:44 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I probably could that would be interesting if i called tech support and
>>>> said i tried moving the fiber now it dont work.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Chris Fabien 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can you just move it yourself? We have done that before.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:41 AM Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for the
>>>>>> spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the process like? Did 
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> charge you for the move of the demarc spot? How much of a PITA was it to
>>>>>> move it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Need to move it because building a data center in an existing building and
the finished room will be tornado proof which the original demarc location
is not.

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Or just let it be and run new fiber from the DMarc to the NID or your
> router.
>
> Why do you need to move the dmarc?
>
> On Mar 31, 2018, at 13:13, TJ Trout  wrote:
>
> move it yourself. If it was cat5 you wouldn't have a problem right? Fiber
> is easier to work on then cat5 in my opinion, it seems intimidating but
> it's not. Get some AFL fast connectors and a coupler and move that B
>
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:00 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Just go tear it off the building.  Put up some siding or something.  Call
>> in a trouble.  When they come out blame some other contractor.
>>
>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 31, 2018 6:32 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>
>> You should add an "lol" or a smiley face or something so that readers
>> know you're joking.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Chris Fabien" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 3/30/2018 12:55:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>
>>
>> No, you say it's always been installed here, your records must be wrong,
>> now get to fixing it, SLA clock is ticking
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 10:44 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I probably could that would be interesting if i called tech support and
>>> said i tried moving the fiber now it dont work.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Chris Fabien 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can you just move it yourself? We have done that before.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:41 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for the
>>>>> spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the process like? Did they
>>>>> charge you for the move of the demarc spot? How much of a PITA was it to
>>>>> move it?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[Matt Hoppes]

Or just let it be and run new fiber from the DMarc to the NID or your router. 

Why do you need to move the dmarc?

> On Mar 31, 2018, at 13:13, TJ Trout  wrote:
> 
> move it yourself. If it was cat5 you wouldn't have a problem right? Fiber is 
> easier to work on then cat5 in my opinion, it seems intimidating but it's 
> not. Get some AFL fast connectors and a coupler and move that B
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:00 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> Just go tear it off the building.  Put up some siding or something.  Call in 
>> a trouble.  When they come out blame some other contractor. 
>>  
>> From: Adam Moffett
>> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 6:32 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>  
>> You should add an "lol" or a smiley face or something so that readers know 
>> you're joking.
>>  
>>  
>> ------ Original Message --
>> From: "Chris Fabien" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 3/30/2018 12:55:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>>  
>>> No, you say it's always been installed here, your records must be wrong, 
>>> now get to fixing it, SLA clock is ticking
>>>  
>>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 10:44 AM Kurt Fankhauser  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> I probably could that would be interesting if i called tech support and 
>>>> said i tried moving the fiber now it dont work.
>>>>  
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Chris Fabien  wrote:
>>>>> Can you just move it yourself? We have done that before.
>>>>>  
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:41 AM Kurt Fankhauser  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for the 
>>>>>> spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the process like? Did 
>>>>>> they charge you for the move of the demarc spot? How much of a PITA was 
>>>>>> it to move it?
>>>> 
>>>>  
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[TJ Trout]

move it yourself. If it was cat5 you wouldn't have a problem right? Fiber
is easier to work on then cat5 in my opinion, it seems intimidating but
it's not. Get some AFL fast connectors and a coupler and move that B

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:00 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Just go tear it off the building.  Put up some siding or something.  Call
> in a trouble.  When they come out blame some other contractor.
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 31, 2018 6:32 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>
> You should add an "lol" or a smiley face or something so that readers know
> you're joking.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Chris Fabien" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 3/30/2018 12:55:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move
>
>
> No, you say it's always been installed here, your records must be wrong,
> now get to fixing it, SLA clock is ticking
>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 10:44 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
>> I probably could that would be interesting if i called tech support and
>> said i tried moving the fiber now it dont work.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Chris Fabien 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can you just move it yourself? We have done that before.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:41 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for the
>>>> spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the process like? Did they
>>>> charge you for the move of the demarc spot? How much of a PITA was it to
>>>> move it?
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[Chuck McCown]

Just go tear it off the building.  Put up some siding or something.  Call in a 
trouble.  When they come out blame some other contractor.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 6:32 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

You should add an "lol" or a smiley face or something so that readers know 
you're joking.


-- Original Message --
From: "Chris Fabien" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/30/2018 12:55:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

  No, you say it's always been installed here, your records must be wrong, now 
get to fixing it, SLA clock is ticking

  On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 10:44 AM Kurt Fankhauser  
wrote:

I probably could that would be interesting if i called tech support and 
said i tried moving the fiber now it dont work.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Chris Fabien  wrote:

  Can you just move it yourself? We have done that before.

  On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:41 AM Kurt Fankhauser  
wrote:

Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for the 
spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the process like? Did they 
charge you for the move of the demarc spot? How much of a PITA was it to move 
it?

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[Adam Moffett]

You should add an "lol" or a smiley face or something so that readers 
know you're joking.



-- Original Message --
From: "Chris Fabien" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/30/2018 12:55:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

No, you say it's always been installed here, your records must be 
wrong, now get to fixing it, SLA clock is ticking


On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 10:44 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
 wrote:
I probably could that would be interesting if i called tech support 
and said i tried moving the fiber now it dont work.


On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Chris Fabien  
wrote:

Can you just move it yourself? We have done that before.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:41 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
 wrote:
Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for the 
spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the process like? 
Did they charge you for the move of the demarc spot? How much of a 
PITA was it to move it?

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[Josh Luthman]

My demarc is the phone room.  I ran copper down the hall to our
closet/office.  Definitely should have done a line full of fiber...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Chris Fabien  wrote:

> No, you say it's always been installed here, your records must be wrong,
> now get to fixing it, SLA clock is ticking
>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 10:44 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
>> I probably could that would be interesting if i called tech support and
>> said i tried moving the fiber now it dont work.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Chris Fabien 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can you just move it yourself? We have done that before.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:41 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for the
 spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the process like? Did they
 charge you for the move of the demarc spot? How much of a PITA was it to
 move it?

>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[Chris Fabien]

No, you say it's always been installed here, your records must be wrong,
now get to fixing it, SLA clock is ticking

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 10:44 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> I probably could that would be interesting if i called tech support and
> said i tried moving the fiber now it dont work.
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Chris Fabien  wrote:
>
>> Can you just move it yourself? We have done that before.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:41 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for the
>>> spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the process like? Did they
>>> charge you for the move of the demarc spot? How much of a PITA was it to
>>> move it?
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[Nate Burke]

Put it back thew way it was and say you don't know why it stopped working.

On 3/30/2018 9:44 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
I probably could that would be interesting if i called tech support 
and said i tried moving the fiber now it dont work.


On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Chris Fabien > wrote:


Can you just move it yourself? We have done that before.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:41 AM Kurt Fankhauser
mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for
the spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the
process like? Did they charge you for the move of the demarc
spot? How much of a PITA was it to move it?

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[Kurt Fankhauser]

I probably could that would be interesting if i called tech support and
said i tried moving the fiber now it dont work.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Chris Fabien  wrote:

> Can you just move it yourself? We have done that before.
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:41 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for the
>> spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the process like? Did they
>> charge you for the move of the demarc spot? How much of a PITA was it to
>> move it?
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[Chris Fabien]

Can you just move it yourself? We have done that before.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:41 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for the
> spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the process like? Did they
> charge you for the move of the demarc spot? How much of a PITA was it to
> move it?
>

[AFMUG] Spectrum fiber demarc move

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Has anyone had to move their demarc locaiton in a building for the
spectrum/time warner fiber service and what was the process like? Did they
charge you for the move of the demarc spot? How much of a PITA was it to
move it?