Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS
We have Finepoint and Comtrend. It has been an uphill project… for our ISP. We are lucky to have a competent coder or it may not have gotten this far. One example: Speedtest feature only works in the “download” direction for example and the returned result is way off. We monitor the throughput of these tests with an outboard system. With all those work arounds.. the feature is nice. From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> On Behalf Of Charles Boening Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 6:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS Been using SmartRG for about 10 years or so. Maybe a hair more. It was ClearAccess when we started. SmartRG analytics look really nice. Been looking at FinePoint recently. FinePoint isn’t as pretty but they do support speed test right from a Comtrend router. They are also a bit cheaper than SmartRG. They also purport to be vendor agnostic. Not sure if we’re going to switch yet. __ Charles Boening Network Manager 800-858-2399 | Office <mailto:charl...@calore.net> charl...@calore.net <http://www.cot.net/> www.cot.net | Find us on <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cal-Ore/205066716227707> Facebook __ Cal-Ore | Real. Local. Trusted. Professional. From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 9:51 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS Has anybody tripped over an ACS software package that they like? _ Spam <https://emailfilteringservice.net/canit/b.php?c=s=09VFzf63C=e7cfa45df101=atcjet-net=20180502> Phish/Fraud <https://emailfilteringservice.net/canit/b.php?c=p=09VFzf63C=e7cfa45df101=atcjet-net=20180502> Not spam <https://emailfilteringservice.net/canit/b.php?c=n=09VFzf63C=e7cfa45df101=atcjet-net=20180502> Forget previous vote <https://emailfilteringservice.net/canit/b.php?c=f=09VFzf63C=e7cfa45df101=atcjet-net=20180502>
Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS
Hi All,
I'd say the big difference in our experience (We went with
Friendly-Tech's ACS after evaluating a few companies) is going to be how
fully fleshed out device support and GUI is. If your only concern is
simply downloading the tree and setting variables manually any ACS will
do. If your looking for a fully featured, CSR friendly, portal which
manage devices and is 100% out of the box compatible with a known CPE
then you're going to be paying more both for the ACS and for the CPE the
vendor suggests.
Friendly-Tech (which we went with) had a reasonable UI already created
(unfortunately windows ASP.net based) but has taken more time and vendor
work to get devices to do some basic things like monitor wi-fi signals
and perform password changes/diagnostics.
Tim Alexander
Amplex Internet
419-837-5015 or 888-419-3635
22690 Pemberville Road
Luckey, OH 43443
supp...@amplex.net
On 5/3/2018 8:58 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
So other than already composing the templates for their equipment, a
vendor ACS shouldn't have any advantage over a third-party ACS?
-
Mike Hammett
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*From: *"Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, May 2, 2018 1:02:26 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS
Well, my experience so far is that different devices have different
fields available, and you have to have a different template for each
one. The open source ACS's give you no templates, so you have to know
what you're doing and create templates. In theory the manufacturer
can pre-populate their ACS with templates.
The first one I ever saw that really made life easy for you was
Readynet's cloud based ACS. I don't know if they support any devices
other than their own, but if they did I might pay them for the privilege!
-- Original Message --
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Sent: 5/2/2018 12:51:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS
and is there any advantage to using one that comes from the vendor
vs. a third party one?
-
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*Sent: *Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:50:47 AM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] TR-069 ACS
Has anybody tripped over an ACS software package that they like?
Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS
So other than already composing the templates for their equipment, a vendor ACS shouldn't have any advantage over a third-party ACS? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 1:02:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS Well, my experience so far is that different devices have different fields available, and you have to have a different template for each one. The open source ACS's give you no templates, so you have to know what you're doing and create templates. In theory the manufacturer can pre-populate their ACS with templates. The first one I ever saw that really made life easy for you was Readynet's cloud based ACS. I don't know if they support any devices other than their own, but if they did I might pay them for the privilege! -- Original Message -- From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/2/2018 12:51:53 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS and is there any advantage to using one that comes from the vendor vs. a third party one? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" < dmmoff...@gmail.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:50:47 AM Subject: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS Has anybody tripped over an ACS software package that they like?
Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS
Yes, it is no longer paid and is the offshoot of what used to be a paid project. Honestly, GenieACS looks like the better open source ACS; certainly a newer UI. From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Steve D <bigd...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 6:15:37 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS Isn't FreeACS dead though? Did community take it over? We ended up deciding to go the paid route. The ACS company we are with... I have mixed feelings so don't want to give a good or bad review yet. But, I'm still curious about what others are using in case we decide to dump them. -Steve D On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Jesse DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net<mailto:jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>> wrote: I loaded up FreeACS and put the URL for it in my Telrad UE's and also a Mikrotik with the TR-069 package on it. I've got my ACS configured to allow anything so every UE and the Mikrotik showed up in the ACS and I can see the stats from the last time each device updated. I did make a "profile" for the Telrad so it would ask for certain fields, but I did it by having the ACS ask for all fields and then adding the ones I wanted to the profile; same for the Mikrotik. Other than getting them to show up in the ACS, I haven't done anything constructive like firmware update, but I'll be testing it with the Mikrotik. I guess it does log syslog entries to the database. It looks like I'd have to do some DBA wizardry to get the UE stats into something I can graph over time (like an RRD or other DB) because it appears that only the most recent stat is kept in the database (that is, it's not a time series field maybe?). I suppose with a little reading, I could get them into InfluxDB or something like that, trend them in Grafana. A few screen shots attached. Jesse DuPont Network Architect email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net<mailto:jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> Celerity Networks LLC Celerity Broadband LLC Like us! facebook.com<http://facebook.com>/celeritynetworksllc Like us! facebook.com<http://facebook.com>/celeritybroadband [cid:part1.E45D8D4F.E24F0C09@celeritycorp.net] On 5/2/18 12:02 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: Well, my experience so far is that different devices have different fields available, and you have to have a different template for each one. The open source ACS's give you no templates, so you have to know what you're doing and create templates. In theory the manufacturer can pre-populate their ACS with templates. The first one I ever saw that really made life easy for you was Readynet's cloud based ACS. I don't know if they support any devices other than their own, but if they did I might pay them for the privilege! -- Original Message -- From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 5/2/2018 12:51:53 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS and is there any advantage to using one that comes from the vendor vs. a third party one? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:50:47 AM Subject: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS Has anybody tripped over an ACS software package that they like?
Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS
Isn't FreeACS dead though? Did community take it over? We ended up deciding to go the paid route. The ACS company we are with... I have mixed feelings so don't want to give a good or bad review yet. But, I'm still curious about what others are using in case we decide to dump them. -Steve D On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Jesse DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net > wrote: > I loaded up FreeACS and put the URL for it in my Telrad UE's and also a > Mikrotik with the TR-069 package on it. I've got my ACS configured to allow > anything so every UE and the Mikrotik showed up in the ACS and I can see > the stats from the last time each device updated. I did make a "profile" > for the Telrad so it would ask for certain fields, but I did it by having > the ACS ask for all fields and then adding the ones I wanted to the > profile; same for the Mikrotik. > > Other than getting them to show up in the ACS, I haven't done anything > constructive like firmware update, but I'll be testing it with the > Mikrotik. I guess it does log syslog entries to the database. > > It looks like I'd have to do some DBA wizardry to get the UE stats into > something I can graph over time (like an RRD or other DB) because it > appears that only the most recent stat is kept in the database (that is, > it's not a time series field maybe?). I suppose with a little reading, I > could get them into InfluxDB or something like that, trend them in Grafana. > > A few screen shots attached. > > *Jesse DuPont* > > Network Architect > email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net > Celerity Networks LLC > > Celerity Broadband LLC > Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc > > Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband > On 5/2/18 12:02 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > Well, my experience so far is that different devices have different fields > available, and you have to have a different template for each one. The > open source ACS's give you no templates, so you have to know what you're > doing and create templates. In theory the manufacturer can pre-populate > their ACS with templates. > > The first one I ever saw that really made life easy for you was Readynet's > cloud based ACS. I don't know if they support any devices other than their > own, but if they did I might pay them for the privilege! > > > > ------ Original Message -- > From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 5/2/2018 12:51:53 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS > > and is there any advantage to using one that comes from the vendor vs. a > third party one? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:50:47 AM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] TR-069 ACS > > Has anybody tripped over an ACS software package that they like? > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS
Been using SmartRG for about 10 years or so. Maybe a hair more. It was ClearAccess when we started. SmartRG analytics look really nice. Been looking at FinePoint recently. FinePoint isn’t as pretty but they do support speed test right from a Comtrend router. They are also a bit cheaper than SmartRG. They also purport to be vendor agnostic. Not sure if we’re going to switch yet. __ Charles Boening Network Manager 800-858-2399 | Office charl...@calore.net<mailto:charl...@calore.net> www.cot.net<http://www.cot.net/> | Find us on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cal-Ore/205066716227707> __ Cal-Ore | Real. Local. Trusted. Professional. From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 9:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS Has anybody tripped over an ACS software package that they like?
Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS
Typical use case is if you are multi-vendor to begin with. Some Vendor ACS's will work fine for compatibility, but you run into the dreaded "buy our cpe or pound sand" argument when you go to get support. If we only did one brand, we'd probably use whatever they have these days, but you might cross not only different LTE vendors into one ACS system, but different technologies as well. Home routers, adsl modems, etc. -Steve D On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > and is there any advantage to using one that comes from the vendor vs. a > third party one? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -------------- > *From: *"Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:50:47 AM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] TR-069 ACS > > Has anybody tripped over an ACS software package that they like? > > >
Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS
Ugh... more damn cloud... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 1:02:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS Well, my experience so far is that different devices have different fields available, and you have to have a different template for each one. The open source ACS's give you no templates, so you have to know what you're doing and create templates. In theory the manufacturer can pre-populate their ACS with templates. The first one I ever saw that really made life easy for you was Readynet's cloud based ACS. I don't know if they support any devices other than their own, but if they did I might pay them for the privilege! -- Original Message -- From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/2/2018 12:51:53 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS and is there any advantage to using one that comes from the vendor vs. a third party one? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" < dmmoff...@gmail.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:50:47 AM Subject: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS Has anybody tripped over an ACS software package that they like?
Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS
Well, my experience so far is that different devices have different fields available, and you have to have a different template for each one. The open source ACS's give you no templates, so you have to know what you're doing and create templates. In theory the manufacturer can pre-populate their ACS with templates. The first one I ever saw that really made life easy for you was Readynet's cloud based ACS. I don't know if they support any devices other than their own, but if they did I might pay them for the privilege! -- Original Message -- From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/2/2018 12:51:53 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS and is there any advantage to using one that comes from the vendor vs. a third party one? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:50:47 AM Subject: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS Has anybody tripped over an ACS software package that they like?
Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS
and is there any advantage to using one that comes from the vendor vs. a third party one? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:50:47 AM Subject: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS Has anybody tripped over an ACS software package that they like?
[AFMUG] TR-069 ACS
Has anybody tripped over an ACS software package that they like?
