Re: [AFMUG] Wire label labelmaker recommendation

[Adam Moffett]

I love the idea of heat shrink labels.  Is there a size of tubing where 
it will fit over a terminated CAT5 when unshrunk, but still shrink onto 
the CAT5?


A simple short term solution for you, Forrest, is put clear packaging 
tape over the label.  The packing tape holds so well you don't even need 
a real labelyou can just use strips of paper.  The tape always ends 
up with a wrinkle in it, but it never comes off.



-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/3/2017 2:13:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wire label labelmaker recommendation


This.

Dymo Rhino and the Brother industrial (PZ? I can't remember) both have 
rugged labels that will stand up to sun, oil, chemicals, etc. Vinyl, 
cloth, a whole range of colors and sizes.


They also have printable heat shrink labels.

On Sep 2, 2017 7:25 PM, "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com> 
wrote:
I use a Dymo Rhino 5200 and 3/4" black on white industrial vinyl tape. 
The 5200 has presets for wire and cable, patch panels, breaker panels, 
etc. I've had the vinyl outdoors on 'Pipes and 'Boxes with a "GPS" 
label for years. None of them have came off yet. They've stayed on 
cables in outdoor cabinets that get a little on the warm side. I've 
pulled some off and transferred to another cable and they re-stick 
just fine.


We have several of this kit: 
https://www.amazon.com/Industrial-RHINO-Label-Maker-1756589/dp/B002M1HKLC/ 
<https://www.amazon.com/Industrial-RHINO-Label-Maker-1756589/dp/B002M1HKLC/>


On 9/2/2017 7:01 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
I've been using a brother "TZ" labelmaker for quite a while.   Works 
great on flat surfaces.


Recently, I've been needing to label wires for the test system - I'm 
finding that the TZ tape likes to peel.  I'm going to get a brand new 
roll of the cable flexible id tape, in case I got a bad one or 
mistakenly used the wrong tape for some of these labels.  But... I'm 
pretty convinced that this is more related to the fact that these 
cables are inserted/removed regularly and as such the label+cable is 
subject to being flexed.  With the plastic tape being not as flexible 
as the cable, this is causing enough 'strain' on the adhesive for it 
to release.


I've been curious about the brady and other similar labelers.   
Unfortunately I don't know what label is going on these cables at 
build time so for the most part I'm going to have to stick with some 
sort of adhesive label (unless there is another option other than a 
heatshrink tube).   The fact that brady has cloth labels makes me 
wonder if this would work better...


What does everyone use, and what experience have you had with the 
labels?


BTW, many of these cables are CAT5 sized.  Some are bigger/smaller 
though...


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Re: [AFMUG] Wire label labelmaker recommendation

[Kerry Penland]

+1 on the Dymo labeler. I have two, the industrial vinyl is the best tape  
I've ever used. They also have a heat shrink tubing you can print on. I've  
used that also, so long as you can label the wire before you put a  
connector on it. Lots of options for vertical wrap and horizontal wrap  
labels, panels , etc. I still haven't used it to it's full potential.


On Sat, 02 Sep 2017 20:25:51 -0400, George Skorup  
 wrote:


I use a Dymo Rhino 5200 and 3/4" black on white industrial vinyl tape.  
The 5200 has presets for wire and cable, patch panels, breaker panels,  
etc. I've had >the vinyl outdoors on 'Pipes and 'Boxes with a "GPS"  
label for years. None of them have came off yet. They've stayed on  
cables in outdoor cabinets that >get a little on the warm side. I've  
pulled some off and transferred to another cable and they re-stick just  
fine.


We have several of this kit:  
https://www.amazon.com/Industrial-RHINO-Label-Maker-1756589/dp/B002M1HKLC/


On 9/2/2017 7:01 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
I've been using a brother "TZ" labelmaker for quite a while.   Works  
great on flat surfaces.
Recently, I've been needing to label wires for the test system - I'm  
finding that the TZ tape likes to peel.  I'm going to get a brand new  
roll >>of the cable flexible id tape, in case I got a bad one or  
mistakenly used the wrong tape for some of these labels.  But... I'm  
pretty >>convinced that this is more related to the fact that these  
cables are inserted/removed regularly and as such the label+cable is  
subject to >>being flexed.  With the plastic tape being not as flexible  
as the cable, this is causing enough 'strain' on the adhesive for it to  
release.


I've been curious about the brady and other similar labelers.
Unfortunately I don't know what label is going on these cables at build  
time >>so for the most part I'm going to have to stick with some sort  
of adhesive label (unless there is another option other than a  
heatshrink >>tube).   The fact that brady has cloth labels makes me  
wonder if this would work better...


What does everyone use, and what experience have you had with the  
labels?


BTW, many of these cables are CAT5 sized.  Some are bigger/smaller  
though...


-- >>Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com











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Re: [AFMUG] Wire label labelmaker recommendation

[Josh Reynolds]

This.

Dymo Rhino and the Brother industrial (PZ? I can't remember) both have
rugged labels that will stand up to sun, oil, chemicals, etc. Vinyl, cloth,
a whole range of colors and sizes.

They also have printable heat shrink labels.

On Sep 2, 2017 7:25 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

> I use a Dymo Rhino 5200 and 3/4" black on white industrial vinyl tape. The
> 5200 has presets for wire and cable, patch panels, breaker panels, etc.
> I've had the vinyl outdoors on 'Pipes and 'Boxes with a "GPS" label for
> years. None of them have came off yet. They've stayed on cables in outdoor
> cabinets that get a little on the warm side. I've pulled some off and
> transferred to another cable and they re-stick just fine.
>
> We have several of this kit: https://www.amazon.com/
> Industrial-RHINO-Label-Maker-1756589/dp/B002M1HKLC/
>
> On 9/2/2017 7:01 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>
> I've been using a brother "TZ" labelmaker for quite a while.   Works great
> on flat surfaces.
>
> Recently, I've been needing to label wires for the test system - I'm
> finding that the TZ tape likes to peel.  I'm going to get a brand new roll
> of the cable flexible id tape, in case I got a bad one or mistakenly
> used the wrong tape for some of these labels.  But... I'm pretty convinced
> that this is more related to the fact that these cables are
> inserted/removed regularly and as such the label+cable is subject to being
> flexed.  With the plastic tape being not as flexible as the cable, this is
> causing enough 'strain' on the adhesive for it to release.
>
> I've been curious about the brady and other similar labelers.
> Unfortunately I don't know what label is going on these cables at build
> time so for the most part I'm going to have to stick with some sort of
> adhesive label (unless there is another option other than a heatshrink
> tube).   The fact that brady has cloth labels makes me wonder if this would
> work better...
>
> What does everyone use, and what experience have you had with the labels?
>
> BTW, many of these cables are CAT5 sized.  Some are bigger/smaller
> though...
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wire label labelmaker recommendation

[Jeremy]

The Dymo Rhino has all sorts of tape options, and will also print on shrink
tubing

On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> Dymo Rhino 5200, and I love it.  However, it permanently dies if left
> inside of a cold vehicle.  I have lost two this way now.
>
> On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Adroit , succinct!!
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Sep 2, 2017 6:14 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>>
>> Jaime, you are such a talker. Once in a while, I'd like to see a response
>> that was short and concise.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 9/2/2017 5:06 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> Panduit
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Sep 2, 2017 6:01 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been using a brother "TZ" labelmaker for quite a while.   Works
>>> great on flat surfaces.
>>>
>>> Recently, I've been needing to label wires for the test system - I'm
>>> finding that the TZ tape likes to peel.  I'm going to get a brand new roll
>>> of the cable flexible id tape, in case I got a bad one or mistakenly
>>> used the wrong tape for some of these labels.  But... I'm pretty convinced
>>> that this is more related to the fact that these cables are
>>> inserted/removed regularly and as such the label+cable is subject to being
>>> flexed.  With the plastic tape being not as flexible as the cable, this is
>>> causing enough 'strain' on the adhesive for it to release.
>>>
>>> I've been curious about the brady and other similar labelers.
>>> Unfortunately I don't know what label is going on these cables at build
>>> time so for the most part I'm going to have to stick with some sort of
>>> adhesive label (unless there is another option other than a heatshrink
>>> tube).   The fact that brady has cloth labels makes me wonder if this would
>>> work better...
>>>
>>> What does everyone use, and what experience have you had with the labels?
>>>
>>> BTW, many of these cables are CAT5 sized.  Some are bigger/smaller
>>> though...
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>>> 
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wire label labelmaker recommendation

[Jeremy]

Dymo Rhino 5200, and I love it.  However, it permanently dies if left
inside of a cold vehicle.  I have lost two this way now.

On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Adroit , succinct!!
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Sep 2, 2017 6:14 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>
> Jaime, you are such a talker. Once in a while, I'd like to see a response
> that was short and concise.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 9/2/2017 5:06 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Panduit
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Sep 2, 2017 6:01 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> I've been using a brother "TZ" labelmaker for quite a while.   Works
>> great on flat surfaces.
>>
>> Recently, I've been needing to label wires for the test system - I'm
>> finding that the TZ tape likes to peel.  I'm going to get a brand new roll
>> of the cable flexible id tape, in case I got a bad one or mistakenly
>> used the wrong tape for some of these labels.  But... I'm pretty convinced
>> that this is more related to the fact that these cables are
>> inserted/removed regularly and as such the label+cable is subject to being
>> flexed.  With the plastic tape being not as flexible as the cable, this is
>> causing enough 'strain' on the adhesive for it to release.
>>
>> I've been curious about the brady and other similar labelers.
>> Unfortunately I don't know what label is going on these cables at build
>> time so for the most part I'm going to have to stick with some sort of
>> adhesive label (unless there is another option other than a heatshrink
>> tube).   The fact that brady has cloth labels makes me wonder if this would
>> work better...
>>
>> What does everyone use, and what experience have you had with the labels?
>>
>> BTW, many of these cables are CAT5 sized.  Some are bigger/smaller
>> though...
>>
>> --
>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>> 
>>   
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wire label labelmaker recommendation

[Jaime Solorza]

Adroit , succinct!!

Jaime Solorza

On Sep 2, 2017 6:14 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

Jaime, you are such a talker. Once in a while, I'd like to see a response
that was short and concise.


bp



On 9/2/2017 5:06 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Panduit

Jaime Solorza

On Sep 2, 2017 6:01 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> I've been using a brother "TZ" labelmaker for quite a while.   Works great
> on flat surfaces.
>
> Recently, I've been needing to label wires for the test system - I'm
> finding that the TZ tape likes to peel.  I'm going to get a brand new roll
> of the cable flexible id tape, in case I got a bad one or mistakenly
> used the wrong tape for some of these labels.  But... I'm pretty convinced
> that this is more related to the fact that these cables are
> inserted/removed regularly and as such the label+cable is subject to being
> flexed.  With the plastic tape being not as flexible as the cable, this is
> causing enough 'strain' on the adhesive for it to release.
>
> I've been curious about the brady and other similar labelers.
> Unfortunately I don't know what label is going on these cables at build
> time so for the most part I'm going to have to stick with some sort of
> adhesive label (unless there is another option other than a heatshrink
> tube).   The fact that brady has cloth labels makes me wonder if this would
> work better...
>
> What does everyone use, and what experience have you had with the labels?
>
> BTW, many of these cables are CAT5 sized.  Some are bigger/smaller
> though...
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Wire label labelmaker recommendation

[George Skorup]

I use a Dymo Rhino 5200 and 3/4" black on white industrial vinyl tape. 
The 5200 has presets for wire and cable, patch panels, breaker panels, 
etc. I've had the vinyl outdoors on 'Pipes and 'Boxes with a "GPS" label 
for years. None of them have came off yet. They've stayed on cables in 
outdoor cabinets that get a little on the warm side. I've pulled some 
off and transferred to another cable and they re-stick just fine.


We have several of this kit: 
https://www.amazon.com/Industrial-RHINO-Label-Maker-1756589/dp/B002M1HKLC/


On 9/2/2017 7:01 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
I've been using a brother "TZ" labelmaker for quite a while.   Works 
great on flat surfaces.


Recently, I've been needing to label wires for the test system - I'm 
finding that the TZ tape likes to peel.  I'm going to get a brand new 
roll of the cable flexible id tape, in case I got a bad one or 
mistakenly used the wrong tape for some of these labels.  But... I'm 
pretty convinced that this is more related to the fact that these 
cables are inserted/removed regularly and as such the label+cable is 
subject to being flexed.  With the plastic tape being not as flexible 
as the cable, this is causing enough 'strain' on the adhesive for it 
to release.


I've been curious about the brady and other similar labelers.   
Unfortunately I don't know what label is going on these cables at 
build time so for the most part I'm going to have to stick with some 
sort of adhesive label (unless there is another option other than a 
heatshrink tube).   The fact that brady has cloth labels makes me 
wonder if this would work better...


What does everyone use, and what experience have you had with the labels?

BTW, many of these cables are CAT5 sized.  Some are bigger/smaller 
though...


--
*Forrest Christian* /CEO//, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com  | 
http://www.packetflux.com 
 
 

Re: [AFMUG] Wire label labelmaker recommendation

[Faisal Imtiaz]

probably because right now it is cutting into his Tecate time ! 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2017 8:14:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wire label labelmaker recommendation

> Jaime, you are such a talker. Once in a while, I'd like to see a response that
> was short and concise.

> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> On 9/2/2017 5:06 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

>> Panduit

>> Jaime Solorza

>> On Sep 2, 2017 6:01 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <
>> li...@packetflux.com > wrote:

>>> I've been using a brother "TZ" labelmaker for quite a while. Works great on 
>>> flat
>>> surfaces.

>>> Recently, I've been needing to label wires for the test system - I'm finding
>>> that the TZ tape likes to peel. I'm going to get a brand new roll of the
>>> cable flexible id tape, in case I got a bad one or mistakenly used the
>>> wrong tape for some of these labels. But... I'm pretty convinced that this 
>>> is
>>> more related to the fact that these cables are inserted/removed regularly 
>>> and
>>> as such the label+cable is subject to being flexed. With the plastic tape 
>>> being
>>> not as flexible as the cable, this is causing enough 'strain' on the 
>>> adhesive
>>> for it to release.

>>> I've been curious about the brady and other similar labelers. Unfortunately 
>>> I
>>> don't know what label is going on these cables at build time so for the most
>>> part I'm going to have to stick with some sort of adhesive label (unless 
>>> there
>>> is another option other than a heatshrink tube). The fact that brady has 
>>> cloth
>>> labels makes me wonder if this would work better...

>>> What does everyone use, and what experience have you had with the labels?

>>> BTW, many of these cables are CAT5 sized. Some are bigger/smaller though...

>>> --
>>> Forrest Christian CEO , PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.
>>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com

Re: [AFMUG] Wire label labelmaker recommendation

[Bill Prince]

Jaime, you are such a talker. Once in a while, I'd like to see a 
response that was short and concise.



bp


On 9/2/2017 5:06 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Panduit

Jaime Solorza

On Sep 2, 2017 6:01 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" 
> wrote:


I've been using a brother "TZ" labelmaker for quite a while.  
Works great on flat surfaces.

Recently, I've been needing to label wires for the test system -
I'm finding that the TZ tape likes to peel.  I'm going to get a
brand new roll of the cable flexible id tape, in case I got a
bad one or mistakenly used the wrong tape for some of these
labels.  But... I'm pretty convinced that this is more related to
the fact that these cables are inserted/removed regularly and as
such the label+cable is subject to being flexed.  With the plastic
tape being not as flexible as the cable, this is causing enough
'strain' on the adhesive for it to release.

I've been curious about the brady and other similar labelers.  
Unfortunately I don't know what label is going on these cables at
build time so for the most part I'm going to have to stick with
some sort of adhesive label (unless there is another option other
than a heatshrink tube).   The fact that brady has cloth labels
makes me wonder if this would work better...

What does everyone use, and what experience have you had with the
labels?

BTW, many of these cables are CAT5 sized.  Some are bigger/smaller
though...

-- 
*Forrest Christian* /CEO//, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./

Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com  |
http://www.packetflux.com 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Wire label labelmaker recommendation

[Chuck McCown]

Heatshrink label is the only thing that will stand up to that kind of abuse I 
think.  
I don’t remember how it worked, but when I was doing aviation electronics, they 
ran the wire through a machine that printed an identifier on the whole length.  
That was pretty nice.  Every single wire had a designator that matched the 
schematic.  

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2017 6:01 PM
To: af 
Subject: [AFMUG] Wire label labelmaker recommendation

I've been using a brother "TZ" labelmaker for quite a while.   Works great on 
flat surfaces. 

Recently, I've been needing to label wires for the test system - I'm finding 
that the TZ tape likes to peel.  I'm going to get a brand new roll of the 
cable flexible id tape, in case I got a bad one or mistakenly used the 
wrong tape for some of these labels.  But... I'm pretty convinced that this is 
more related to the fact that these cables are inserted/removed regularly and 
as such the label+cable is subject to being flexed.  With the plastic tape 
being not as flexible as the cable, this is causing enough 'strain' on the 
adhesive for it to release.

I've been curious about the brady and other similar labelers.   Unfortunately I 
don't know what label is going on these cables at build time so for the most 
part I'm going to have to stick with some sort of adhesive label (unless there 
is another option other than a heatshrink tube).   The fact that brady has 
cloth labels makes me wonder if this would work better...

What does everyone use, and what experience have you had with the labels?

BTW, many of these cables are CAT5 sized.  Some are bigger/smaller though...

-- 

  Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

  Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
  forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com

 

Re: [AFMUG] Wire label labelmaker recommendation

[Jaime Solorza]

Panduit

Jaime Solorza

On Sep 2, 2017 6:01 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> I've been using a brother "TZ" labelmaker for quite a while.   Works great
> on flat surfaces.
>
> Recently, I've been needing to label wires for the test system - I'm
> finding that the TZ tape likes to peel.  I'm going to get a brand new roll
> of the cable flexible id tape, in case I got a bad one or mistakenly
> used the wrong tape for some of these labels.  But... I'm pretty convinced
> that this is more related to the fact that these cables are
> inserted/removed regularly and as such the label+cable is subject to being
> flexed.  With the plastic tape being not as flexible as the cable, this is
> causing enough 'strain' on the adhesive for it to release.
>
> I've been curious about the brady and other similar labelers.
> Unfortunately I don't know what label is going on these cables at build
> time so for the most part I'm going to have to stick with some sort of
> adhesive label (unless there is another option other than a heatshrink
> tube).   The fact that brady has cloth labels makes me wonder if this would
> work better...
>
> What does everyone use, and what experience have you had with the labels?
>
> BTW, many of these cables are CAT5 sized.  Some are bigger/smaller
> though...
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>

[AFMUG] Wire label labelmaker recommendation

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

I've been using a brother "TZ" labelmaker for quite a while.   Works great
on flat surfaces.

Recently, I've been needing to label wires for the test system - I'm
finding that the TZ tape likes to peel.  I'm going to get a brand new roll
of the cable flexible id tape, in case I got a bad one or mistakenly
used the wrong tape for some of these labels.  But... I'm pretty convinced
that this is more related to the fact that these cables are
inserted/removed regularly and as such the label+cable is subject to being
flexed.  With the plastic tape being not as flexible as the cable, this is
causing enough 'strain' on the adhesive for it to release.

I've been curious about the brady and other similar labelers.
Unfortunately I don't know what label is going on these cables at build
time so for the most part I'm going to have to stick with some sort of
adhesive label (unless there is another option other than a heatshrink
tube).   The fact that brady has cloth labels makes me wonder if this would
work better...

What does everyone use, and what experience have you had with the labels?

BTW, many of these cables are CAT5 sized.  Some are bigger/smaller though...

-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com