Re: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting new subnet

[Mike Hammett]

They need to SWIP it to you. All blocks /29 and larger need to be SWIPed to the 
proper entity. If going to an ISP, they need to be reallocated. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 6:20:31 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting new 
subnet 

To who? 


The block is advertised via BGP on our end, so why would they need to sail it 
to me? It’s a reassign from the company. 


Thank you, 
Brett A Mansfield 

On Nov 8, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Eric Kuhnke < eric.kuh...@gmail.com > wrote: 





Until the ARIN WHOIS for your block shows proper data for your ISP and location 
in Utah, such as via SWIP, you will not have much luck with getting unblocked. 
May also need to provide a copy of the LOA for the block. 


On Nov 8, 2017 10:27 AM, "Brett A Mansfield" < li...@silverlakeinternet.com > 
wrote: 



This is leased /24. It’s BGP to me. 


Thank you, 
Brett A Mansfield 

On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Eric Kuhnke < eric.kuh...@gmail.com > wrote: 





If you're "renting" from logicweb, which is a large and known 
colocation/hosting/virtual server ISP, I don't know how successful you will be 
in getting removed from the blacklists. You can get a "new" /24 to /20 sized 
chunk of space removed from blacklists if it's registered to you in ARIN WHOIS, 
but not if it looks like a block of space that's directly adjacent to a bunch 
of dedicated servers in colo. 





On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Brett A Mansfield < 
li...@silverlakeinternet.com > wrote: 


LogicWeb basically told they’ll get me a different subnet, otherwise I 
basically have to figure it out on my own. They did offer to reach out to these 
companies if I could get them the direct contact details. 

Before I deploy my second subnet I’m going to make sure they are whitelisted 
first. 

Thank you, 
Brett A Mansfield 



> On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Sterling Jacobson < sterl...@avative.net > 
> wrote: 
> 
> Vudu is the worst. 
> 
> Again, see if the renting company will help you deal with it. 
> 
> But essentially you have to just call support on each one and get through to 
> someone that knows WTH is going on. 
> 
> And, have customers contact support and explain that they don't live in a 
> different country and are not on a VPN. 
> That helps a lot too, both parties can hit it at the same time. 
> 
> Eventually what happens is they take the /24 or whatever and whitelist it in 
> their database. 
> 
> Also, a lot of the CDNs use a service themselves for blacklist and if you fix 
> it with that service, it fixes it for a large number of them simultaneously. 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 10:35 AM 
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting new 
> subnet 
> 
> Anyone have contacts at Hulu, Vudu, Netflix or any of the other major 
> streaming providers? 
> 
> I just leased a new subnet and it is being blocked by their servers for 
> “proxy”. There are no proxies on my network. 
> 
> I dealt with this a while back, but now it is happening again. 
> 
> Thank you, 
> Brett A Mansfield 

Re: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting new subnet

[Brett A Mansfield]

Sorry, SWiP, not sail. And I really appreciate everyone that has given feedback 
on this issue.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Brett A Mansfield  
> wrote:
> 
> To who? 
> 
> The block is advertised via BGP on our end, so why would they need to sail it 
> to me? It’s a reassign from the company.
> 
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
>> 
>> Until the ARIN WHOIS for your block shows proper data for your ISP and 
>> location in Utah, such as via SWIP, you will not have much luck with getting 
>> unblocked. May also need to provide a copy of the LOA for the block. 
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2017 10:27 AM, "Brett A Mansfield"  
>>> wrote:
>>> This is leased /24. It’s BGP to me.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>> 
 On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
 
 If you're "renting" from logicweb, which is a large and known 
 colocation/hosting/virtual server ISP, I don't know how successful you 
 will be in getting removed from the blacklists. You can get a "new" /24 to 
 /20 sized chunk of space removed from blacklists if it's registered to you 
 in ARIN WHOIS, but not if it looks like a block of space that's directly 
 adjacent to a bunch of dedicated servers in colo.
 
 
 
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Brett A Mansfield 
>  wrote:
> LogicWeb basically told they’ll get me a different subnet, otherwise I 
> basically have to figure it out on my own. They did offer to reach out to 
> these companies if I could get them the direct contact details.
> 
> Before I deploy my second subnet I’m going to make sure they are 
> whitelisted first.
> 
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
> 
> > On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Sterling Jacobson  
> > wrote:
> >
> > Vudu is the worst.
> >
> > Again, see if the renting company will help you deal with it.
> >
> > But essentially you have to just call support on each one and get 
> > through to someone that knows WTH is going on.
> >
> > And, have customers contact support and explain that they don't live in 
> > a different country  and are not on a VPN.
> > That helps a lot too, both parties can hit it at the same time.
> >
> > Eventually what happens is they take the /24 or whatever and whitelist 
> > it in their database.
> >
> > Also, a lot of the CDNs use a service themselves for blacklist and if 
> > you fix it with that service, it fixes it for a large number of them 
> > simultaneously.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 10:35 AM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting 
> > new subnet
> >
> > Anyone have contacts at Hulu, Vudu, Netflix or any of the other major 
> > streaming providers?
> >
> > I just leased a new subnet and it is being blocked by their servers for 
> > “proxy”. There are no proxies on my network.
> >
> > I dealt with this a while back, but now it is happening again.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Brett A Mansfield
 

Re: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting new subnet

[Mike Hammett]

Use the site I linked to earlier to find NOC information for the other 
networks. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Brett A Mansfield"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 11:35:03 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting new 
subnet 

Anyone have contacts at Hulu, Vudu, Netflix or any of the other major streaming 
providers? 

I just leased a new subnet and it is being blocked by their servers for 
“proxy”. There are no proxies on my network. 

I dealt with this a while back, but now it is happening again. 

Thank you, 
Brett A Mansfield 

Re: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting new subnet

[Brett A Mansfield]

To who? 

The block is advertised via BGP on our end, so why would they need to sail it 
to me? It’s a reassign from the company.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
> 
> Until the ARIN WHOIS for your block shows proper data for your ISP and 
> location in Utah, such as via SWIP, you will not have much luck with getting 
> unblocked. May also need to provide a copy of the LOA for the block. 
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2017 10:27 AM, "Brett A Mansfield"  
>> wrote:
>> This is leased /24. It’s BGP to me.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you're "renting" from logicweb, which is a large and known 
>>> colocation/hosting/virtual server ISP, I don't know how successful you will 
>>> be in getting removed from the blacklists. You can get a "new" /24 to /20 
>>> sized chunk of space removed from blacklists if it's registered to you in 
>>> ARIN WHOIS, but not if it looks like a block of space that's directly 
>>> adjacent to a bunch of dedicated servers in colo.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Brett A Mansfield 
  wrote:
 LogicWeb basically told they’ll get me a different subnet, otherwise I 
 basically have to figure it out on my own. They did offer to reach out to 
 these companies if I could get them the direct contact details.
 
 Before I deploy my second subnet I’m going to make sure they are 
 whitelisted first.
 
 Thank you,
 Brett A Mansfield
 
 > On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Sterling Jacobson  
 > wrote:
 >
 > Vudu is the worst.
 >
 > Again, see if the renting company will help you deal with it.
 >
 > But essentially you have to just call support on each one and get 
 > through to someone that knows WTH is going on.
 >
 > And, have customers contact support and explain that they don't live in 
 > a different country  and are not on a VPN.
 > That helps a lot too, both parties can hit it at the same time.
 >
 > Eventually what happens is they take the /24 or whatever and whitelist 
 > it in their database.
 >
 > Also, a lot of the CDNs use a service themselves for blacklist and if 
 > you fix it with that service, it fixes it for a large number of them 
 > simultaneously.
 >
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
 > Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 10:35 AM
 > To: af@afmug.com
 > Subject: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting 
 > new subnet
 >
 > Anyone have contacts at Hulu, Vudu, Netflix or any of the other major 
 > streaming providers?
 >
 > I just leased a new subnet and it is being blocked by their servers for 
 > “proxy”. There are no proxies on my network.
 >
 > I dealt with this a while back, but now it is happening again.
 >
 > Thank you,
 > Brett A Mansfield
>>> 

Re: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting new subnet

[Eric Kuhnke]

Until the ARIN WHOIS for your block shows proper data for your ISP and
location in Utah, such as via SWIP, you will not have much luck with
getting unblocked. May also need to provide a copy of the LOA for the
block.

On Nov 8, 2017 10:27 AM, "Brett A Mansfield" 
wrote:

> This is leased /24. It’s BGP to me.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
> On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
>
> If you're "renting" from logicweb, which is a large and known
> colocation/hosting/virtual server ISP, I don't know how successful you will
> be in getting removed from the blacklists. You can get a "new" /24 to /20
> sized chunk of space removed from blacklists if it's registered to you in
> ARIN WHOIS, but not if it looks like a block of space that's directly
> adjacent to a bunch of dedicated servers in colo.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Brett A Mansfield <
> li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> LogicWeb basically told they’ll get me a different subnet, otherwise I
>> basically have to figure it out on my own. They did offer to reach out to
>> these companies if I could get them the direct contact details.
>>
>> Before I deploy my second subnet I’m going to make sure they are
>> whitelisted first.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>>
>> > On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Vudu is the worst.
>> >
>> > Again, see if the renting company will help you deal with it.
>> >
>> > But essentially you have to just call support on each one and get
>> through to someone that knows WTH is going on.
>> >
>> > And, have customers contact support and explain that they don't live in
>> a different country  and are not on a VPN.
>> > That helps a lot too, both parties can hit it at the same time.
>> >
>> > Eventually what happens is they take the /24 or whatever and whitelist
>> it in their database.
>> >
>> > Also, a lot of the CDNs use a service themselves for blacklist and if
>> you fix it with that service, it fixes it for a large number of them
>> simultaneously.
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 10:35 AM
>> > To: af@afmug.com
>> > Subject: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting
>> new subnet
>> >
>> > Anyone have contacts at Hulu, Vudu, Netflix or any of the other major
>> streaming providers?
>> >
>> > I just leased a new subnet and it is being blocked by their servers for
>> “proxy”. There are no proxies on my network.
>> >
>> > I dealt with this a while back, but now it is happening again.
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> > Brett A Mansfield
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting new subnet

[Josh Luthman]

For being blocked as a proxy you need to contact them individually to my
knowledge.

For Netflix geosupp...@netflix.com or cdnet...@netflix.com

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Brett A Mansfield <
li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:

> Any idea how to know which CDN to go to?
>
> It would be great if there were a website I could go to in order to check
> IPs for this kind of block, similar to the ones for email spam blockers.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
> > On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
> >
> > Vudu is the worst.
> >
> > Again, see if the renting company will help you deal with it.
> >
> > But essentially you have to just call support on each one and get
> through to someone that knows WTH is going on.
> >
> > And, have customers contact support and explain that they don't live in
> a different country  and are not on a VPN.
> > That helps a lot too, both parties can hit it at the same time.
> >
> > Eventually what happens is they take the /24 or whatever and whitelist
> it in their database.
> >
> > Also, a lot of the CDNs use a service themselves for blacklist and if
> you fix it with that service, it fixes it for a large number of them
> simultaneously.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 10:35 AM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting
> new subnet
> >
> > Anyone have contacts at Hulu, Vudu, Netflix or any of the other major
> streaming providers?
> >
> > I just leased a new subnet and it is being blocked by their servers for
> “proxy”. There are no proxies on my network.
> >
> > I dealt with this a while back, but now it is happening again.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Brett A Mansfield
>

Re: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting new subnet

[Brett A Mansfield]

Any idea how to know which CDN to go to? 

It would be great if there were a website I could go to in order to check IPs 
for this kind of block, similar to the ones for email spam blockers.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> Vudu is the worst.
> 
> Again, see if the renting company will help you deal with it.
> 
> But essentially you have to just call support on each one and get through to 
> someone that knows WTH is going on.
> 
> And, have customers contact support and explain that they don't live in a 
> different country  and are not on a VPN.
> That helps a lot too, both parties can hit it at the same time.
> 
> Eventually what happens is they take the /24 or whatever and whitelist it in 
> their database.
> 
> Also, a lot of the CDNs use a service themselves for blacklist and if you fix 
> it with that service, it fixes it for a large number of them simultaneously.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 10:35 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting new 
> subnet
> 
> Anyone have contacts at Hulu, Vudu, Netflix or any of the other major 
> streaming providers? 
> 
> I just leased a new subnet and it is being blocked by their servers for 
> “proxy”. There are no proxies on my network. 
> 
> I dealt with this a while back, but now it is happening again.
> 
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield

Re: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting new subnet

[Brett A Mansfield]

This is leased /24. It’s BGP to me.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
> 
> If you're "renting" from logicweb, which is a large and known 
> colocation/hosting/virtual server ISP, I don't know how successful you will 
> be in getting removed from the blacklists. You can get a "new" /24 to /20 
> sized chunk of space removed from blacklists if it's registered to you in 
> ARIN WHOIS, but not if it looks like a block of space that's directly 
> adjacent to a bunch of dedicated servers in colo.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Brett A Mansfield 
>>  wrote:
>> LogicWeb basically told they’ll get me a different subnet, otherwise I 
>> basically have to figure it out on my own. They did offer to reach out to 
>> these companies if I could get them the direct contact details.
>> 
>> Before I deploy my second subnet I’m going to make sure they are whitelisted 
>> first.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>> 
>> > On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Sterling Jacobson  
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Vudu is the worst.
>> >
>> > Again, see if the renting company will help you deal with it.
>> >
>> > But essentially you have to just call support on each one and get through 
>> > to someone that knows WTH is going on.
>> >
>> > And, have customers contact support and explain that they don't live in a 
>> > different country  and are not on a VPN.
>> > That helps a lot too, both parties can hit it at the same time.
>> >
>> > Eventually what happens is they take the /24 or whatever and whitelist it 
>> > in their database.
>> >
>> > Also, a lot of the CDNs use a service themselves for blacklist and if you 
>> > fix it with that service, it fixes it for a large number of them 
>> > simultaneously.
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 10:35 AM
>> > To: af@afmug.com
>> > Subject: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting 
>> > new subnet
>> >
>> > Anyone have contacts at Hulu, Vudu, Netflix or any of the other major 
>> > streaming providers?
>> >
>> > I just leased a new subnet and it is being blocked by their servers for 
>> > “proxy”. There are no proxies on my network.
>> >
>> > I dealt with this a while back, but now it is happening again.
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> > Brett A Mansfield
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting new subnet

[Eric Kuhnke]

If you're "renting" from logicweb, which is a large and known
colocation/hosting/virtual server ISP, I don't know how successful you will
be in getting removed from the blacklists. You can get a "new" /24 to /20
sized chunk of space removed from blacklists if it's registered to you in
ARIN WHOIS, but not if it looks like a block of space that's directly
adjacent to a bunch of dedicated servers in colo.



On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Brett A Mansfield <
li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:

> LogicWeb basically told they’ll get me a different subnet, otherwise I
> basically have to figure it out on my own. They did offer to reach out to
> these companies if I could get them the direct contact details.
>
> Before I deploy my second subnet I’m going to make sure they are
> whitelisted first.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
> > On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
> >
> > Vudu is the worst.
> >
> > Again, see if the renting company will help you deal with it.
> >
> > But essentially you have to just call support on each one and get
> through to someone that knows WTH is going on.
> >
> > And, have customers contact support and explain that they don't live in
> a different country  and are not on a VPN.
> > That helps a lot too, both parties can hit it at the same time.
> >
> > Eventually what happens is they take the /24 or whatever and whitelist
> it in their database.
> >
> > Also, a lot of the CDNs use a service themselves for blacklist and if
> you fix it with that service, it fixes it for a large number of them
> simultaneously.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 10:35 AM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting
> new subnet
> >
> > Anyone have contacts at Hulu, Vudu, Netflix or any of the other major
> streaming providers?
> >
> > I just leased a new subnet and it is being blocked by their servers for
> “proxy”. There are no proxies on my network.
> >
> > I dealt with this a while back, but now it is happening again.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Brett A Mansfield
>

Re: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting new subnet

[Brett A Mansfield]

LogicWeb basically told they’ll get me a different subnet, otherwise I 
basically have to figure it out on my own. They did offer to reach out to these 
companies if I could get them the direct contact details.

Before I deploy my second subnet I’m going to make sure they are whitelisted 
first. 

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> Vudu is the worst.
> 
> Again, see if the renting company will help you deal with it.
> 
> But essentially you have to just call support on each one and get through to 
> someone that knows WTH is going on.
> 
> And, have customers contact support and explain that they don't live in a 
> different country  and are not on a VPN.
> That helps a lot too, both parties can hit it at the same time.
> 
> Eventually what happens is they take the /24 or whatever and whitelist it in 
> their database.
> 
> Also, a lot of the CDNs use a service themselves for blacklist and if you fix 
> it with that service, it fixes it for a large number of them simultaneously.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 10:35 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting new 
> subnet
> 
> Anyone have contacts at Hulu, Vudu, Netflix or any of the other major 
> streaming providers? 
> 
> I just leased a new subnet and it is being blocked by their servers for 
> “proxy”. There are no proxies on my network. 
> 
> I dealt with this a while back, but now it is happening again.
> 
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield

Re: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting new subnet

[Sterling Jacobson]

Vudu is the worst.

Again, see if the renting company will help you deal with it.

But essentially you have to just call support on each one and get through to 
someone that knows WTH is going on.

And, have customers contact support and explain that they don't live in a 
different country  and are not on a VPN.
That helps a lot too, both parties can hit it at the same time.

Eventually what happens is they take the /24 or whatever and whitelist it in 
their database.

Also, a lot of the CDNs use a service themselves for blacklist and if you fix 
it with that service, it fixes it for a large number of them simultaneously.


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 10:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Blocked by the major streaming providers after getting new 
subnet

Anyone have contacts at Hulu, Vudu, Netflix or any of the other major streaming 
providers? 

I just leased a new subnet and it is being blocked by their servers for 
“proxy”. There are no proxies on my network. 

I dealt with this a while back, but now it is happening again.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield