Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[D. Ryan Spott]

My understanding is that it was designed to handle the load of AOL back in the 
day. There is clustering built into it and obviously AOL did use a custom 
system. 

When I really admin-ed it, we handled 10s of thousands of email accounts with 
it on thousands of hosted domains. It just hummed along on OSX and FreeBSD. 

Tandem, cool cool stuff. 

ryan

-- 
D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
broadband | telco | colo | communities
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
425-939-0047

> On Jan 19, 2016, at 09:00, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The AOL email system ran on a network of Tandem NonStop systems back in the 
> day. It was all custom at that time.
> 
> I worked at Tandem at the time, and we had regular weekly shipments of 
> machines going to AOL.
> 
> I think the sales rep retired on the commissions.
> 
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> 
>> On 1/19/2016 8:54 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:
>> It is a pretty slick system (and expensive) .. I never seen a communigate 
>> pro system though that was scaled up.  I'm assuming this 'spec' was for AOL 
>> when they first started out back in the day?  There's no way you can run a 
>> system of that size on a single server ;)
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:13 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email
>> 
>> I believe the original spec for Communigate was to run all of AOLs email on 
>> 1 server. I would believe it. Bomb proof.
>> 
>> The Russian guy that does most of the code is a freaking genius.
>> 
>> It is as expensive as Exchange but so stable you will never touch it.
>> 
>> Reselling hosted domains is trivial. You can give admins for your hosted 
>> domains full reign of their domain and never have to worry about them.
>> 
>> Pretty cool stuff.
>> 
>> ryan
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Dennis Burgess]

Mailenable.

Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 1:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net> 
wrote:
> We do 1000 mailboxes, 3 gig of storage webmail, anti-virus/spam. For 69.99 a 
> month, no contract..
>
> Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
> den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net


What platform is that based on?


> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 6:07 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email
>
> Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options?

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Dennis Burgess]

We do 1000 mailboxes, 3 gig of storage webmail, anti-virus/spam. For 69.99 a 
month, no contract.. 

Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 6:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options?

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Matt]

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Dennis Burgess
 wrote:
> We do 1000 mailboxes, 3 gig of storage webmail, anti-virus/spam. For 69.99 a 
> month, no contract..
>
> Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
> den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net


What platform is that based on?


> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 6:07 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email
>
> Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options?

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Paul Stewart]

Interesting .. that definitely would have been early days ... I had a
lengthy webex session with one of their architects when they were building
the last generation (6 years ago if I recall) - was sharing an architecture
I had implemented for a provider in Europe that had about the same
requirements.  Good times... ;)

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 1:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

My understanding is that it was designed to handle the load of AOL back in
the day. There is clustering built into it and obviously AOL did use a
custom system. 

When I really admin-ed it, we handled 10s of thousands of email accounts
with it on thousands of hosted domains. It just hummed along on OSX and
FreeBSD. 

Tandem, cool cool stuff. 

ryan

-- 
D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
broadband | telco | colo | communities
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
425-939-0047

> On Jan 19, 2016, at 09:00, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The AOL email system ran on a network of Tandem NonStop systems back in
the day. It was all custom at that time.
> 
> I worked at Tandem at the time, and we had regular weekly shipments of
machines going to AOL.
> 
> I think the sales rep retired on the commissions.
> 
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> 
>> On 1/19/2016 8:54 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:
>> It is a pretty slick system (and expensive) .. I never seen a communigate
pro system though that was scaled up.  I'm assuming this 'spec' was for AOL
when they first started out back in the day?  There's no way you can run a
system of that size on a single server ;)
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:13 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email
>> 
>> I believe the original spec for Communigate was to run all of AOLs email
on 1 server. I would believe it. Bomb proof.
>> 
>> The Russian guy that does most of the code is a freaking genius.
>> 
>> It is as expensive as Exchange but so stable you will never touch it.
>> 
>> Reselling hosted domains is trivial. You can give admins for your hosted
domains full reign of their domain and never have to worry about them.
>> 
>> Pretty cool stuff.
>> 
>> ryan
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Mike Hammett]

Hosti ng Zimbra yourself is quite reasonable. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 


- Original Message -

From: "Matt"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 6:07:05 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email 

Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options? 

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Paul Stewart]

How many mailboxes?

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 7:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options?

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Stefan Englhardt]

We run http://communigate.com/ for years now. Runs very stable and efficient in 
a VM.
Integrates with Outlook and is webmanagable.
Not cheap and you need some time to learn all the settings but a real 
professional system.



-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Paul Stewart
Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Januar 2016 14:10
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

How many mailboxes?

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 7:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options?

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[D. Ryan Spott]

I believe the original spec for Communigate was to run all of AOLs email on 1 
server. I would believe it. Bomb proof. 

The Russian guy that does most of the code is a freaking genius. 

It is as expensive as Exchange but so stable you will never touch it. 

Reselling hosted domains is trivial. You can give admins for your hosted 
domains full reign of their domain and never have to worry about them. 

Pretty cool stuff. 

ryan

-- 
D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
broadband | telco | colo | communities
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
425-939-0047

> On Jan 19, 2016, at 05:16, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
> 
> We run http://communigate.com/ for years now. Runs very stable and efficient 
> in a VM.
> Integrates with Outlook and is webmanagable.
> Not cheap and you need some time to learn all the settings but a real 
> professional system.
> 
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Paul Stewart
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Januar 2016 14:10
> An: af@afmug.com
> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email
> 
> How many mailboxes?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 7:07 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email
> 
> Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options?
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Paul Stewart]

Wow that's back in time :)  It's an interesting history with AOL and how many 
times they have re-invented themselves and managed to survive quite well until 
they were bought.  


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 12:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

The AOL email system ran on a network of Tandem NonStop systems back in the 
day. It was all custom at that time.

I worked at Tandem at the time, and we had regular weekly shipments of machines 
going to AOL.

I think the sales rep retired on the commissions.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/19/2016 8:54 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:
> It is a pretty slick system (and expensive) .. I never seen a 
> communigate pro system though that was scaled up.  I'm assuming this 
> 'spec' was for AOL when they first started out back in the day?  
> There's no way you can run a system of that size on a single server ;)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:13 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email
>
> I believe the original spec for Communigate was to run all of AOLs email on 1 
> server. I would believe it. Bomb proof.
>
> The Russian guy that does most of the code is a freaking genius.
>
> It is as expensive as Exchange but so stable you will never touch it.
>
> Reselling hosted domains is trivial. You can give admins for your hosted 
> domains full reign of their domain and never have to worry about them.
>
> Pretty cool stuff.
>
> ryan
>

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Paul Stewart]

It is a pretty slick system (and expensive) .. I never seen a communigate pro 
system though that was scaled up.  I'm assuming this 'spec' was for AOL when 
they first started out back in the day?  There's no way you can run a system of 
that size on a single server ;)

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:13 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

I believe the original spec for Communigate was to run all of AOLs email on 1 
server. I would believe it. Bomb proof. 

The Russian guy that does most of the code is a freaking genius. 

It is as expensive as Exchange but so stable you will never touch it. 

Reselling hosted domains is trivial. You can give admins for your hosted 
domains full reign of their domain and never have to worry about them. 

Pretty cool stuff. 

ryan

-- 
D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
broadband | telco | colo | communities
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
425-939-0047

> On Jan 19, 2016, at 05:16, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
> 
> We run http://communigate.com/ for years now. Runs very stable and efficient 
> in a VM.
> Integrates with Outlook and is webmanagable.
> Not cheap and you need some time to learn all the settings but a real 
> professional system.
> 
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Paul Stewart
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Januar 2016 14:10
> An: af@afmug.com
> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email
> 
> How many mailboxes?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 7:07 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email
> 
> Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options?
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Bill Prince]

The AOL email system ran on a network of Tandem NonStop systems back in 
the day. It was all custom at that time.


I worked at Tandem at the time, and we had regular weekly shipments of 
machines going to AOL.


I think the sales rep retired on the commissions.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/19/2016 8:54 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:

It is a pretty slick system (and expensive) .. I never seen a communigate pro 
system though that was scaled up.  I'm assuming this 'spec' was for AOL when 
they first started out back in the day?  There's no way you can run a system of 
that size on a single server ;)

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:13 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

I believe the original spec for Communigate was to run all of AOLs email on 1 
server. I would believe it. Bomb proof.

The Russian guy that does most of the code is a freaking genius.

It is as expensive as Exchange but so stable you will never touch it.

Reselling hosted domains is trivial. You can give admins for your hosted 
domains full reign of their domain and never have to worry about them.

Pretty cool stuff.

ryan

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Keefe John]

Run your own cpanel server.

On 1/18/2016 6:07 PM, Matt wrote:

Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options?

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Simon Westlake]

I've always wanted to try https://www.atmail.com/ but never gotten 
around to it. Looks good and they have a great API.


On 1/18/2016 6:07 PM, Matt wrote:

Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options?


--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Christopher Gray]

I use Rackspace. You can get a discount if you are on the Spiceworks forum.
They offer white labeling after ~$150 / month if I remember correctly.

I've been wanting to try OpenSRS. Any experience there?


On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 7:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> we use rackspace for our free accounts we give out because we are on an
> antique plan and sherweb for hosted exchange because theyll give us the
> compliance certificate
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Keefe John  wrote:
>
>> Run your own cpanel server.
>>
>>
>> On 1/18/2016 6:07 PM, Matt wrote:
>>
>>> Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Steve Utick]

We use ServerPlus, and have been happy with it.


On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Matt  wrote:

> Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Josh Luthman]

Several WISPA members are very affordable.  The real cost IMO is dealing
with customers (ie my new phone needs the pop/imap/smtp server).


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Matt  wrote:

> Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

we use rackspace for our free accounts we give out because we are on an
antique plan and sherweb for hosted exchange because theyll give us the
compliance certificate

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Keefe John  wrote:

> Run your own cpanel server.
>
>
> On 1/18/2016 6:07 PM, Matt wrote:
>
>> Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options?
>>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

We are a rackspace reseller, their fanatical support just ain't what it
used to be.
On Jan 18, 2016 7:20 PM, "Christopher Gray" 
wrote:

> I use Rackspace. You can get a discount if you are on the Spiceworks
> forum. They offer white labeling after ~$150 / month if I remember
> correctly.
>
> I've been wanting to try OpenSRS. Any experience there?
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 7:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> we use rackspace for our free accounts we give out because we are on an
>> antique plan and sherweb for hosted exchange because theyll give us the
>> compliance certificate
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Keefe John 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Run your own cpanel server.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/18/2016 6:07 PM, Matt wrote:
>>>
 Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options?

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Ken Hohhof]

I had a very anti-Microsoft customer went to atmail and really hated it. 
Specifically I think they had problems with the software and were unhappy 
with the support.  That was over 7 years ago though.  They eventually dumped 
it, I don't remember what they went to.  I was not directly involved, they 
were a T1 customer.  Looks like they are currently using hosted Exchange 
from OnX.



-Original Message- 
From: Simon Westlake

Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 8:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

I've always wanted to try https://www.atmail.com/ but never gotten
around to it. Looks good and they have a great API.

On 1/18/2016 6:07 PM, Matt wrote:

Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options?


--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Justin Wilson]

We have a client running at mail on one of their appliance boxes.  It’s slick. 
It works. Customers like it. The webmail is what makes it shine.

Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

---
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth

http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman

> On Jan 18, 2016, at 9:03 PM, Simon Westlake  wrote:
> 
> I've always wanted to try https://www.atmail.com/ but never gotten around to 
> it. Looks good and they have a great API.
> 
> On 1/18/2016 6:07 PM, Matt wrote:
>> Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options?
> 
> -- 
> Simon Westlake
> Skype: Simon_Sonar
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
> https://sonar.software
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Ken Hohhof]

Their MX record points to a wncloud.com server, I looked that up as Worknet, 
which was apparently acquired by OnX a few years ago.  Worknet is listed as at 
600 E. Diehl Rd., Naperville.  Not related to the Worknet in DeKalb.


From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 9:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

I love how Onx tries to be so secretive, but if you look hard enough, you can 
find their facilities.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com






From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 8:56:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

I had a very anti-Microsoft customer went to atmail and really hated it. 
Specifically I think they had problems with the software and were unhappy 
with the support.  That was over 7 years ago though.  They eventually dumped 
it, I don't remember what they went to.  I was not directly involved, they 
were a T1 customer.  Looks like they are currently using hosted Exchange 
from OnX.


-Original Message- 
From: Simon Westlake
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 8:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

I've always wanted to try https://www.atmail.com/ but never gotten
around to it. Looks good and they have a great API.

On 1/18/2016 6:07 PM, Matt wrote:
> Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options?

-- 
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Justin Wilson]

My vote is for On-Ramp Indiana.

Josh is correct.  You will need to do a lot of handholding.  Even if mail 
server names don’t change you will still have some rocky transitions.


Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

---
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth

http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman

> On Jan 18, 2016, at 7:09 PM, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> 
> Several WISPA members are very affordable.  The real cost IMO is dealing with 
> customers (ie my new phone needs the pop/imap/smtp server).
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Matt  > wrote:
> Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options?
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Mike Hammett]

That's their office. Their "Chicago" facility is in one of these buildings: 
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7798691,-88.1579974,245m/data=!3m1!1e3 

I have figured out which one, I just forget at the moment. 

Their Indianapolis datacenter is just space in someone else's (LightBound). 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 


- Original Message -

From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 9:31:05 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email 




Their MX record points to a wncloud.com server, I looked that up as Worknet, 
which was apparently acquired by OnX a few years ago. Worknet is listed as at 
600 E. Diehl Rd., Naperville. Not related to the Worknet in DeKalb. 





From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 9:24 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email 


I love how Onx tries to be so secretive, but if you look hard enough, you can 
find their facilities. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 


- Original Message -

From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 8:56:21 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email 

I had a very anti-Microsoft customer went to atmail and really hated it. 
Specifically I think they had problems with the software and were unhappy 
with the support. That was over 7 years ago though. They eventually dumped 
it, I don't remember what they went to. I was not directly involved, they 
were a T1 customer. Looks like they are currently using hosted Exchange 
from OnX. 


-Original Message- 
From: Simon Westlake 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 8:03 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email 

I've always wanted to try https://www.atmail.com/ but never gotten 
around to it. Looks good and they have a great API. 

On 1/18/2016 6:07 PM, Matt wrote: 
> Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options? 

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Simon Westlake 
Skype: Simon_Sonar 
Email: simon@sonar.software 
Phone: (702) 447-1247 
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Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email

[Mike Hammett]

I love how Onx tries to be so secretive, but if you look hard enough, you can 
find their facilities. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 


- Original Message -

From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 8:56:21 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email 

I had a very anti-Microsoft customer went to atmail and really hated it. 
Specifically I think they had problems with the software and were unhappy 
with the support. That was over 7 years ago though. They eventually dumped 
it, I don't remember what they went to. I was not directly involved, they 
were a T1 customer. Looks like they are currently using hosted Exchange 
from OnX. 


-Original Message- 
From: Simon Westlake 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 8:03 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced Email 

I've always wanted to try https://www.atmail.com/ but never gotten 
around to it. Looks good and they have a great API. 

On 1/18/2016 6:07 PM, Matt wrote: 
> Since Gmail for ISP's went away are there any new affordable options? 

-- 
Simon Westlake 
Skype: Simon_Sonar 
Email: simon@sonar.software 
Phone: (702) 447-1247 
--- 
Sonar Software Inc 
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS 
https://sonar.software