Re: [AFMUG] dumb pole question
I would just notify the telco that they need to come and attach the cable to your pole once it is in. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 3:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] dumb pole question There's a longish span with an existing phone trunk on it---probably a 50 pair. The power is on the other side of the road for reasons that nobody understands. I would like to insert a pole in the middle of the existing spanI would put it in line with the existing poles in the ROW of course. So I would end up with a phone line touching my pole but not attached to it. I can't think of a specific reason this would be a problem, but I know a couple of you guys do this more often than me and I wonder if you know of any reason this would be bad.
Re: [AFMUG] dumb pole question
The PUC regulates the fees, and yeah technically they would have to pay some trivial amount per year. I don't think I'll fret over it for one pole. On 7/14/2015 10:54 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: how does that work? If you drop a pole, the telco has to pay you an attachment fee? If the telco doesnt want the financial burden, since their poles are already spaced appropriately and does not attach, where does the liability fall for wear damage to the strung cable? Does the telco have recourse on the attachment fee? On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the tip. I'll also try to position ours to miss there cable by a few inches so it's not actually touching unless they want it to :) On 7/14/2015 9:20 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I would just notify the telco that they need to come and attach the cable to your pole once it is in. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 3:16 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] dumb pole question There's a longish span with an existing phone trunk on it---probably a 50 pair. The power is on the other side of the road for reasons that nobody understands. I would like to insert a pole in the middle of the existing spanI would put it in line with the existing poles in the ROW of course. So I would end up with a phone line touching my pole but not attached to it. I can't think of a specific reason this would be a problem, but I know a couple of you guys do this more often than me and I wonder if you know of any reason this would be bad. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] dumb pole question
There are electrical rules regarding poles within a certain distance that you have to attach to. You can charge fees but $12 a year or so is pretty much it. There is an FCC calculation that governs this. Just call the telco joint use office and let them know you have a pole there. Send them a blueprint like document of where it is. ryan On 7/14/15 7:54 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: how does that work? If you drop a pole, the telco has to pay you an attachment fee? If the telco doesnt want the financial burden, since their poles are already spaced appropriately and does not attach, where does the liability fall for wear damage to the strung cable? Does the telco have recourse on the attachment fee? On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the tip. I'll also try to position ours to miss there cable by a few inches so it's not actually touching unless they want it to :) On 7/14/2015 9:20 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I would just notify the telco that they need to come and attach the cable to your pole once it is in. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 3:16 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] dumb pole question There's a longish span with an existing phone trunk on it---probably a 50 pair. The power is on the other side of the road for reasons that nobody understands. I would like to insert a pole in the middle of the existing spanI would put it in line with the existing poles in the ROW of course. So I would end up with a phone line touching my pole but not attached to it. I can't think of a specific reason this would be a problem, but I know a couple of you guys do this more often than me and I wonder if you know of any reason this would be bad. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294 425-939-0047
Re: [AFMUG] dumb pole question
how does that work? If you drop a pole, the telco has to pay you an attachment fee? If the telco doesnt want the financial burden, since their poles are already spaced appropriately and does not attach, where does the liability fall for wear damage to the strung cable? Does the telco have recourse on the attachment fee? On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the tip. I'll also try to position ours to miss there cable by a few inches so it's not actually touching unless they want it to :) On 7/14/2015 9:20 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I would just notify the telco that they need to come and attach the cable to your pole once it is in. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 3:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] dumb pole question There's a longish span with an existing phone trunk on it---probably a 50 pair. The power is on the other side of the road for reasons that nobody understands. I would like to insert a pole in the middle of the existing spanI would put it in line with the existing poles in the ROW of course. So I would end up with a phone line touching my pole but not attached to it. I can't think of a specific reason this would be a problem, but I know a couple of you guys do this more often than me and I wonder if you know of any reason this would be bad. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] dumb pole question
Thanks for the tip. I'll also try to position ours to miss there cable by a few inches so it's not actually touching unless they want it to :) On 7/14/2015 9:20 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I would just notify the telco that they need to come and attach the cable to your pole once it is in. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 3:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] dumb pole question There's a longish span with an existing phone trunk on it---probably a 50 pair. The power is on the other side of the road for reasons that nobody understands. I would like to insert a pole in the middle of the existing spanI would put it in line with the existing poles in the ROW of course. So I would end up with a phone line touching my pole but not attached to it. I can't think of a specific reason this would be a problem, but I know a couple of you guys do this more often than me and I wonder if you know of any reason this would be bad.
Re: [AFMUG] dumb pole question
I doubt you could get an attachment fee from them since you elected to put in the pole after the fact. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 8:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] dumb pole question how does that work? If you drop a pole, the telco has to pay you an attachment fee? If the telco doesnt want the financial burden, since their poles are already spaced appropriately and does not attach, where does the liability fall for wear damage to the strung cable? Does the telco have recourse on the attachment fee? On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the tip. I'll also try to position ours to miss there cable by a few inches so it's not actually touching unless they want it to :) On 7/14/2015 9:20 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I would just notify the telco that they need to come and attach the cable to your pole once it is in. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 3:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] dumb pole question There's a longish span with an existing phone trunk on it---probably a 50 pair. The power is on the other side of the road for reasons that nobody understands. I would like to insert a pole in the middle of the existing spanI would put it in line with the existing poles in the ROW of course. So I would end up with a phone line touching my pole but not attached to it. I can't think of a specific reason this would be a problem, but I know a couple of you guys do this more often than me and I wonder if you know of any reason this would be bad. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
