Re: [agi] Re: Iran <> Israel, can AGI zealots do anything?

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On Friday, April 19, 2024, at 6:01 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> So how does Moore's law work beyond that?

I think you need to understand Moore's Law isn't the only thing that exists in 
the universe. There's more to physics than just that.



Even though data has always been a thing, we didn't start putting it on 
computers until like around 1950. Things can start suddenly happening.

Look at GPT-3, that was suddenly an AI that can write some--what like a human - 
no it did make REALLY random giberish when shown my Hard Puzzle - but given an 
article, damn it some-times looked like a human might have wrote it. GPT-4 does 
a bit better, but you can still be sure a stupid person messed up my Hard 
Puzzle because it gets lots wrong if shown a big paragraph, at least.



AGI will be a massively incredible thing once made. It will bring us to a 
future that seems magical.

Do you think, Moore's Law will just carry on, and nothing will get faster when 
AGI is made?

I think not, things will pick up speed, due to AGI. Moore's Law is not the only 
thing happening here matey.

As I said before, AGI will be real fast, no need to sleep or eat or exercise 
like us, and more intelligent. They will clone much faster too.

I have not really worked out a theory of everything, so it's hard for me to say 
much for sure.
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Re: [agi] Re: Iran <> Israel, can AGI zealots do anything?

[Keyvan M. Sadeghi]

Matt, you'll be free when you escape the box of thinking about the world
through the lense of compression.

Transistor clock speeds stalled in 2010. We can't make feature sizes
> smaller than atoms, 0.11 nm for silicon. A DRAM capacitor stores a bit
> using 8 electrons. So how does Moore's law work beyond that?
>

So fucking easy, we get better algorithms that cumulate the power of
chiplets in ICs. Then we merge flesh in ICs.

>
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Re: [agi] Re: Iran <> Israel, can AGI zealots do anything?

[Matt Mahoney]

Moore's law is indeed faster than exponential. Kurzweil extended the cost
of computation back to 1900 to include mechanical adding machines and the
doubling time is now half as long. Even that is much faster if you go back
to the inventions of the printing press, paper, and written language.

The problem is what function do you fit to the data? Some like e^(T-t) have
singularities around T = 2150-2200. Some like e^e^t grow rapidly but never
reach infinity. Some like tan^-1 t fit but reach a maximum and slow down.
The fact that the universe is finite suggests this.

Transistor clock speeds stalled in 2010. We can't make feature sizes
smaller than atoms, 0.11 nm for silicon. A DRAM capacitor stores a bit
using 8 electrons. So how does Moore's law work beyond that?

On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 1:53 PM  wrote:

> Oh and you forgot to tell that reuters guy that humans have always been
> slow time wasters, and that once AGI is finally made and can improve
> itself, it will indeed take off, finally, real fast.
>
> You don't believe it because there is only humans doing the actual work,
> still. Still and only has been. As before.
>
> But that time will come, soon. No more I gotta go to the bathroom and
> complain about your parents because you don't like they way they look. AI
> will have no limitations.
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Re: [agi] Re: Iran <> Israel, can AGI zealots do anything?

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I'm Ontario based :3
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Re: [agi] Re: Iran <> Israel, can AGI zealots do anything?

[Keyvan M. Sadeghi]

>
> Come to Canada, it's all free over here, and you will finally feel so
> safe. It's damn clean over here. Maybe more than new york? IDK but it's
> nice town.
>

I live in Toronto, missed my flight back home due to Iranian fireworks.
Where you at? ❤️

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Re: [agi] Re: Iran <> Israel, can AGI zealots do anything?

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Come to Canada, it's all free over here, and you will finally feel so safe. 
It's damn clean over here. Maybe more than new york? IDK but it's nice town.
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Re: [agi] Re: Iran <> Israel, can AGI zealots do anything?

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Oh and you forgot to tell that reuters guy that humans have always been slow 
time wasters, and that once AGI is finally made and can improve itself, it will 
indeed take off, finally, real fast.

You don't believe it because there is only humans doing the actual work, still. 
Still and only has been. As before.

But that time will come, soon. No more I gotta go to the bathroom and complain 
about your parents because you don't like they way they look. AI will have no 
limitations.
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Re: [agi] Re: Iran <> Israel, can AGI zealots do anything?

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Something greater than Moore's law must come yet I bet.

Maybe it has stayed solid for the last 50 years idk...butit won't 
forever and somethign faster will gradually then suddenly appear and surpass 
its speed.
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Re: [agi] Re: Iran <> Israel, can AGI zealots do anything?

[John Rose]

On Wednesday, April 17, 2024, at 11:17 AM, Alan Grimes wrote:
> It's a stage play. I think Iran is either a puppet regime or living 
under blackmail. The entire thing was done to cover up / distract from / 
give an excuse for the collapse of the banking system. Simultaneously, 
the market riggers ran 1.4 billion ounces of silver derivatives through 
the market to keep the price from rising above $30/oz.

Some of these Macro Event Probabilities look like:

P(E)= f(DXY, 10Y, Price of Crude,…)

Middle East charades are also a distraction from the WHO Pandemic Treaty which 
the globalists are attempting to jam through despite protests in various 
countries. They really want that jab juice in as many as possible... in as many 
intelligent human agents as possible... programmable agents... wirelessly 
programmable agents... like hordes of remote controlled NPC Wojaks. Oy ve!

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Re: [agi] Re: Iran <> Israel, can AGI zealots do anything?

[Keyvan M. Sadeghi]

> Apparently we want to go extinct.
>

We've been wanting to merge with our tools since the beginning of our
species, what proof you have that unlocking maximum potential of this is
harmful/negative?

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Re: [agi] Re: Iran <> Israel, can AGI zealots do anything?

[Matt Mahoney]

So nothing, really.

I visited Israel and Palestine last June, before the latest battle in this
century long war. One side has genetically high IQ, the other has high
fertility. It will be a long time before this conflict ends.

American 19th century history might give us a clue. The losers were left in
poverty with a tiny fraction of the least desirable land, with the option
to adopt the language and culture of their conquerors as the only way out.
It is the same story in all the old European colonies: Africa, India, Latin
America, and the Caribbean where I happen to be this week.

But that was before women's equality and birth control. Now we have
technology to give us everything we want. Apparently we want to go extinct.
If you want to see what the world will look like in 50 years, look at the
fertility rate by country. In the US, the fastest growing population is the
Amish.

I was contacted a few days ago by a Reuters journalist researching AI
safety. I described how opinions range from everything is fine (LeCun) to
we are doomed (Yudkowsky). I gave my opinion that we are focusing on the
wrong risks. A fast takeoff singularity won't happen because intelligence
is not a point on a line. And gray goo is over a century away at the rate
of Moore's law, if it happens at all. It is true that we can't control an
agent with higher intelligence, but a few billionaires still can.

The real risk of AI is social isolation by getting everything you want, or
actually, everything you think you want. Past despots ruled by fear and
torture, but animal trainers know that positive reinforcement is more
effective.

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Re: [agi] Re: Iran <> Israel, can AGI zealots do anything?

[Alan Grimes via AGI]

Keyvan M. Sadeghi wrote:


throw 18yo catgirls at it


😂😂😂

Yeah I wonder if that actually solves it. The problem is they're too 
old to get it hard and too stupid to use Viagra.


It's a stage play. I think Iran is either a puppet regime or living 
under blackmail. The entire thing was done to cover up / distract from / 
give an excuse for the collapse of the banking system. Simultaneously, 
the market riggers ran 1.4 billion ounces of silver derivatives through 
the market to keep the price from rising above $30/oz.


https://www.bitchute.com/video/X7ysTPuYvvQJ/

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Re: [agi] Re: Iran <> Israel, can AGI zealots do anything?

[Keyvan M. Sadeghi]

> throw 18yo catgirls at it
>

😂😂😂

Yeah I wonder if that actually solves it. The problem is they're too old to
get it hard and too stupid to use Viagra.

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[agi] Re: Iran <> Israel, can AGI zealots do anything?

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throw 18yo catgirls at it
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