Re: (@Notary) Re: BUS: Promise (@Collector and @Spendor too)

[Mischief via agora-business]

On 7/7/24 5:16 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote:

> I create the following promise, titled "The Crass is Creener", and
> transfer it to Mischief:
> {
> Cashing condition: Immediately before cashing this promise, Mischief
> transferred 2 spendies to Murphy.
>
> I transfer 1 Murphy stamp to Mischief.
> }



I transfer 2 Spendies to Murphy

I cash the above promise from Murphy (acting on behalf of Murphy to cause em 
to transfer 1 Murphy stamp to me)




On 7/7/24 5:25 PM, ais523 via agora-business wrote:

I grant Mischief a promise with the following text:
{{{
Cashing conditions: In the same message in which e cashes this promise,
the casher transfers 1 Mischief stamp and 7 Spendies to ais523, and no
other promises authored by ais523 are cashed in the same message.

Expiration conditions: It is 15 July 2024 or later.

I transfer 2 Madrid stamps to the casher.
}}}



I transfer 1 Mischief stamp and 7 Spendies to ais523

I cash the above promise from ais523 (acting on behalf of ais523 to cause em 
to transfer 2 Madrid stamps to me)



--
Mischief
Hat: steampunk hat
Vitality: Ghostly
Bang holdings: 1

(@Notary) Re: BUS: Promise

[ais523 via agora-business]

On Sun, 2024-07-07 at 14:16 -0700, Edward Murphy via agora-business
wrote:
> I create the following promise, titled "The Crass is Creener", and
> transfer it to Mischief:
> {
> Cashing condition: Immediately before cashing this promise, Mischief
> transferred 2 spendies to Murphy.
> 
> I transfer 1 Murphy stamp to Mischief.
> }

I grant Mischief a promise with the following text:
{{{
Cashing conditions: In the same message in which e cashes this promise,
the casher transfers 1 Mischief stamp and 7 Spendies to ais523, and no
other promises authored by ais523 are cashed in the same message.

Expiration conditions: It is 15 July 2024 or later.

I transfer 2 Madrid stamps to the casher.
}}}

-- 
ais523

BUS: Promise (attn Notary)

[Edward Murphy via agora-business]

I create the following promise, titled "The Crass is Creener", and
transfer it to Mischief:
{
Cashing condition: Immediately before cashing this promise, Mischief
transferred 2 spendies to Murphy.

I transfer 1 Murphy stamp to Mischief.
}

--
[ANSC H:GE V:G B:0]

BUS: [Promise, Birds] I don't want to win, but I want birds

[juan via agora-business]

I grant the library the following promise:

{
Cashing conditions: the beared has transfered me no less than 50 BoC in the 
same message as e cashes this promise; e hasn't cashed any other promises in 
that message; and e specified one type of card I own.

I transfer one card of that type to the bearer.

I buy a beast permit for 50 BoC.
}
-- 
juan

BUS: [Promise] A Mild Amount of Evil

[nix via agora-business]

I grant the following promise to snail:

{
nix ossifies Agora.
}

--
nix
Herald

[@Notary, @Treasuror] Re: BUS: [Promise] deal with nix

[nix via agora-business]

On 3/17/22 11:59, Trigon via agora-business wrote:
> I create the following promise in nix's possession:
>
> {
> Cashing conditions: It is 17 March. Trigon has 2500 coins. The bearer is
> nix. The bearer has transferred one win card to Trigon in the same
> message as e cashes this promise.
>
> Trigon transfers 2500 coins to nix.
> }
>
I transfer one win card to Trigon and cash this promise, which causes Trigon to 
transfer 2500 coins to me.

--
nix
Herald

BUS: [Promise] deal with nix

[Trigon via agora-business]

I create the following promise in nix's possession:

{
Cashing conditions: It is 17 March. Trigon has 2500 coins. The bearer is 
nix. The bearer has transferred one win card to Trigon in the same 
message as e cashes this promise.


Trigon transfers 2500 coins to nix.
}

--
Trigon

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST





I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this

(@Treasuror, Notary) Re: [@ais523] Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [promise] trading secretly with a snail

[ais523 via agora-business]

On Mon, 2022-03-14 at 14:05 -0400, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
> I grant ais523 the following promise:
> 
> {
> Cashing conditions: In the same message as cashing, the bearer has
> transferred me two justice cards, and it is 14 or 15 March 2022.
> 
> I pay a set of four justice cards to gain 10 Blot-B-Gones.
> 
> I transfer 6 Blot-B-Gones to the bearer.
> }

Oh, I see (our messages crossed). This is simpler.

I transfer two justice cards to ATMunn, then cash this promise.

-- 
ais523

(@Notary) Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [promise] trading secretly with a snail

[ais523 via agora-business]

On Mon, 2022-03-14 at 13:53 -0400, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 3/14/2022 13:47, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
> > On Mon, 2022-03-14 at 13:41 -0400, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
> > > I grant secretsnail the following promise:
> > > 
> > > {
> > > Cashing conditions: In the same message as cashing, the bearer has
> > > transferred me two justice cards.
> > > 
> > > I transfer 1 winsome, 2 pendants, and 2 votives to the bearer.
> > > }
> > 
> > secretsnail, I'm prepared to outbid this offer.
> > 
> > I grant secretsnail the following promise:
> > {
> > Cashing conditions: In the same message as cashing, the bearer has
> > transferred me two justice cards, and it is 14 or 15 March 2022.
> > 
> > I transfer 20 Decipoints, 2 pendants, and 3 votives to the bearer.
> > }
> > 
> > (10 Decipoints are worth 1 Winsome.)
> > 
> 
> Secretsnail said on Discord that e didn't see your offer in time. I only
> need 4 blot-be-gones though, so if you would like to do a 4-6 split, I
> would be more than willing to do so.

I'd be willing to do that too.

I grant ATMunn the following promise:
{
Cashing conditions: In the same message as cashing, the bearer has
transferred me six blot-be-gones, and it is 14 or 15 March 2022.

I transfer 20 Decipoints, 2 pendants, and 3 votives to the bearer.
}

-- 
ais523

[@ais523] Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [promise] trading secretly with a snail

[ATMunn via agora-business]

On 3/14/2022 13:53, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:

On 3/14/2022 13:47, ais523 via agora-business wrote:

On Mon, 2022-03-14 at 13:41 -0400, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:

I grant secretsnail the following promise:

{
Cashing conditions: In the same message as cashing, the bearer has
transferred me two justice cards.

I transfer 1 winsome, 2 pendants, and 2 votives to the bearer.
}


secretsnail, I'm prepared to outbid this offer.

I grant secretsnail the following promise:
{
Cashing conditions: In the same message as cashing, the bearer has
transferred me two justice cards, and it is 14 or 15 March 2022.

I transfer 20 Decipoints, 2 pendants, and 3 votives to the bearer.
}

(10 Decipoints are worth 1 Winsome.)



Secretsnail said on Discord that e didn't see your offer in time. I only
need 4 blot-be-gones though, so if you would like to do a 4-6 split, I
would be more than willing to do so.



I grant ais523 the following promise:

{
Cashing conditions: In the same message as cashing, the bearer has
transferred me two justice cards, and it is 14 or 15 March 2022.

I pay a set of four justice cards to gain 10 Blot-B-Gones.

I transfer 6 Blot-B-Gones to the bearer.
}

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary :)

(@Treasuror) Re: BUS: [promise] trading secretly with a snail

[secretsnail9 via agora-business]

On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 12:42 PM ATMunn via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I grant secretsnail the following promise:
>
> {
> Cashing conditions: In the same message as cashing, the bearer has
> transferred me two justice cards.
>
> I transfer 1 winsome, 2 pendants, and 2 votives to the bearer.
> }
>

I transfer ATMunn 2 justice cards. I cash the above promise.
--
secretsnail

Re: BUS: [promise] trading secretly with a snail

[ais523 via agora-business]

On Mon, 2022-03-14 at 13:41 -0400, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
> I grant secretsnail the following promise:
> 
> {
> Cashing conditions: In the same message as cashing, the bearer has
> transferred me two justice cards.
> 
> I transfer 1 winsome, 2 pendants, and 2 votives to the bearer.
> }

secretsnail, I'm prepared to outbid this offer.

I grant secretsnail the following promise:
{
Cashing conditions: In the same message as cashing, the bearer has
transferred me two justice cards, and it is 14 or 15 March 2022.

I transfer 20 Decipoints, 2 pendants, and 3 votives to the bearer.
}

(10 Decipoints are worth 1 Winsome.)

-- 
ais523

BUS: [promise] trading secretly with a snail

[ATMunn via agora-business]

I grant secretsnail the following promise:

{
Cashing conditions: In the same message as cashing, the bearer has
transferred me two justice cards.

I transfer 1 winsome, 2 pendants, and 2 votives to the bearer.
}

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary :)

(@Treasuror) Re: BUS: [promise] Pendant Sale

[secretsnail9 via agora-business]

On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 12:40 AM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I grant Secretsnail9 the following promise:
>
> {
>
> Cashing conditions: It is February or March, 2022. I own at least 3
> pendants. The bearer has transferred to me 500 coins in the same message
> as which e cashes this promise.
>
> I transfer the bearer 3 pendants.
>
> }
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
> Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
>
>
I transfer 500 coins to Jason.
I cash the above promise.
--
secretsnail

BUS: [promise] Pendant Sale

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

I grant Secretsnail9 the following promise:

{

Cashing conditions: It is February or March, 2022. I own at least 3
pendants. The bearer has transferred to me 500 coins in the same message
as which e cashes this promise.

I transfer the bearer 3 pendants.

}

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: [promise] Cat Commerce round 2

[Rose Strong via agora-business]

I transfer one Legislative Card to Jason and cash this promise.

On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 5:44 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I create the following promise in cuddlybanana's possession:
>
> {
>
> Cashing conditions: It is January, 2022. cuddlybanana has transferred
> one Legislative Card to me in the same message as which e cashses this
> promise. I have at least 4 legislative cards.
>
> I pay 4 legislative cards as a set to gain 10 pendants.
>
> I transfer 3 pendants to cuddlybanana.
>
> }
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
> Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason
>
>

Re: BUS: [promise] Cat Commerce round 2

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/23/22 17:51, Rose Strong via agora-business wrote:
> I cash this promise and transfer one Legislative Card to Jason.


This doesn't work, you need to do it in the opposite order since I only
have 3 legislative cards.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: [promise] Cat Commerce round 2

[Rose Strong via agora-business]

I cash this promise and transfer one Legislative Card to Jason.

On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 5:44 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I create the following promise in cuddlybanana's possession:
>
> {
>
> Cashing conditions: It is January, 2022. cuddlybanana has transferred
> one Legislative Card to me in the same message as which e cashses this
> promise. I have at least 4 legislative cards.
>
> I pay 4 legislative cards as a set to gain 10 pendants.
>
> I transfer 3 pendants to cuddlybanana.
>
> }
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
> Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason
>
>

BUS: [promise] Cat Commerce round 2

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

I create the following promise in cuddlybanana's possession:

{

Cashing conditions: It is January, 2022. cuddlybanana has transferred
one Legislative Card to me in the same message as which e cashses this
promise. I have at least 4 legislative cards.

I pay 4 legislative cards as a set to gain 10 pendants.

I transfer 3 pendants to cuddlybanana.

}

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: [promise] Cat Commerce

[Trigon via agora-business]

El 23/01/2022 a las 22:02, Jason Cobb via agora-business escribió:

I create the following promise in Trigon's possession:

{

Cashing conditions: It is January, 2022. Trigon has, in the same message
as which this promise is cached, transferred me 4 voting cards.

I transfer 1200 coins to Trigon.

}



I transfer 4 voting cards to Jason. I cash the above promise.

--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST





I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this

BUS: [promise] Cat Commerce

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

I create the following promise in Trigon's possession:

{

Cashing conditions: It is January, 2022. Trigon has, in the same message
as which this promise is cached, transferred me 4 voting cards.

I transfer 1200 coins to Trigon.

}

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: [promise] doing business with a triangle

[Trigon via agora-business]

El 25/10/2021 a las 19:27, ATMunn via agora-business escribió:

I grant Trigon the following promise:

{
Cashing conditions: The bearer has transferred me 2,200 coins in the 
same message as cashing this promise.


I transfer the bearer 4 winsomes.
}



I transfer to ATMunn 2200 coins and cash the above promise.

--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST





I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this

BUS: [promise] doing business with a triangle

[ATMunn via agora-business]

I grant Trigon the following promise:

{
Cashing conditions: The bearer has transferred me 2,200 coins in the 
same message as cashing this promise.


I transfer the bearer 4 winsomes.
}

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary :)

Re: BUS: [promise] Bribery (attn Treasuror

[Edward Murphy via agora-business]

Jason wrote:


I grant the following promise to Murphy:

{

Cashing conditions: I have a grey ribbon. It is before November 2021.

I transfer one pendant to the bearer.

}


If it would result in me gaining a pendant (I have no particular reason
to believe that it wouldn't), then I award a Grey Ribbon to Jason and
cash this promise.

BUS: [promise] Bribery

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

I grant the following promise to Murphy:

{

Cashing conditions: I have a grey ribbon. It is before November 2021.

I transfer one pendant to the bearer.

}

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: [Promise] votes for pends @Treasuror

[ATMunn via agora-business]

On 9/22/2021 11:42, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote:

If the following would increase my extra vote amount by 2, I hereby do this
stuff:

I transfer 2 pendants to ATMunn and cash that Promise.

On Wednesday, September 22, 2021, ATMunn via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:


I grant Cuddlebeam the following promise:

-
Cashing conditions: The bearer has transferred two pendants to me in the
same message as e cashes this promise.

I transfer 2 extra votes to the bearer.
-

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary :)



Flagging for Treasuror. This message contains no game actions.

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary :)

Re: BUS: [Promise] votes for pends

[Cuddle Beam via agora-business]

If the following would increase my extra vote amount by 2, I hereby do this
stuff:

I transfer 2 pendants to ATMunn and cash that Promise.

On Wednesday, September 22, 2021, ATMunn via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I grant Cuddlebeam the following promise:
>
> -
> Cashing conditions: The bearer has transferred two pendants to me in the
> same message as e cashes this promise.
>
> I transfer 2 extra votes to the bearer.
> -
>
> --
> ATMunn
> friendly neighborhood notary :)
>

BUS: [Promise] votes for pends

[ATMunn via agora-business]

I grant Cuddlebeam the following promise:

-
Cashing conditions: The bearer has transferred two pendants to me in the
same message as e cashes this promise.

I transfer 2 extra votes to the bearer.
-

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary :)

Re: BUS: [promise] free pendant

[ATMunn via agora-business]

On 9/17/2021 20:30, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:

I grant the Library the following promise, entitled "free pendant":

-
Cashing conditions: It is before 03:54 (UTC) on September 19, 2021.

I transfer one pendant to the bearer.
-

[I have an extra pendant and don't have any ideas for it at the moment.
Figured I might as well not let the pendant go to waste.]



I revoke this promise from the Library.

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary :)

BUS: [promise] free pendant

[ATMunn via agora-business]

I grant the Library the following promise, entitled "free pendant":

-
Cashing conditions: It is before 03:54 (UTC) on September 19, 2021.

I transfer one pendant to the bearer.
-

[I have an extra pendant and don't have any ideas for it at the moment.
Figured I might as well not let the pendant go to waste.]

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary :)

(@treasuror, @stonekeepor) Re: BUS: Promise for G's stone

[Kerim Aydin via agora-business]

I wield the wealth stone.

I transfer the wealth stone to R. Lee.

I cash the below promise.

-G.

On 8/12/2021 6:47 PM, Sarah S. via agora-business wrote:
> I create the following promise and transfer it to G.
> 
> Text: I (R. Lee) transfer 880 coins to the bearer
> Cashing conditions: The bearer transferred me a wealth stone in the same
> message
> 
> --
> R. Lee
> 

BUS: Promise for G's stone

[Sarah S. via agora-business]

I create the following promise and transfer it to G.

Text: I (R. Lee) transfer 880 coins to the bearer
Cashing conditions: The bearer transferred me a wealth stone in the same
message

--
R. Lee

BUS: [Promise] A pendant shop

[ais523 via agora-business]

I twice promise { I transfer two pendants to the bearer. Cashing
condition: the bearer transferred me a Legislative Card earlier in the
same message and cashes no other promises in that message. }

I twice promise { I transfer five pendants to the casher. Cashing
condition: the bearer transferred me two Legislative Cards earlier in
the same message and cashes no other promises in that message. }

I transfer those promises to the Library.

(Side note: I will not guarantee that I will hold onto enough Pendants
to make cashing these promises worthwhile; check my Pendant count
before cashing in order to ensure you aren't being ripped off.)

-- 
ais523

Re: BUS: [Promise] Protection for Concentration

[Ned Strange via agora-business]

I transfer 250 coins to trigon and cash this promise, protecting my
concentration stone
On Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 7:03 AM Trigon via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I grant the following promise to R. Lee:
>
> =
>
> Cashing conditions: the bearer has transferred Trigon 250 coins in the
> same message as e cashes this promise.
>
> Trigon wields the Protection Stone specifying the Concentration Stone.
>
> =
>
> --
> Trigon
>
>   ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST
>
> I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
> I LOVE SPAGHETTI
> transfer Jason one coin
> nch was here
> I hereby
> don't... trust... the dragon...
> don't... trust... the dragon...
> Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
>

BUS: [Promise] Protection for Concentration

[Trigon via agora-business]

I grant the following promise to R. Lee:

=

Cashing conditions: the bearer has transferred Trigon 250 coins in the 
same message as e cashes this promise.


Trigon wields the Protection Stone specifying the Concentration Stone.

=

--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST

I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this

Re: BUS: [promise] BBG Sale

[Rebecca Lee via agora-business]

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 11:25 AM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I grant R. Lee the following promise:
>
> {
>
> Cashing conditions: It is June, 2021, UTC. The bearer has, in the same
> message as e cashed this promise, transferred me 80 coins, without any
> intervening promise cashes.
>
> I transfer the bearer one Blot Be Gone.
>
> }
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
> Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
>
> I cash this promise, transferring Jason 80 coins (and getting a BBG).

-- 
>From R. Lee

BUS: [promise] BBG Sale

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

I grant R. Lee the following promise:

{

Cashing conditions: It is June, 2021, UTC. The bearer has, in the same
message as e cashed this promise, transferred me 80 coins, without any
intervening promise cashes.

I transfer the bearer one Blot Be Gone.

}

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: [promise] Liquidation [attn. Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 1:22 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> I grant Aris an instance of the following promise 7 times:
>
> {
>
> Cashing conditions:
>
> * It is strictly before June 8, 2021, UTC.
>
> * The bearer has transferred me 42 coins for the sole purpose of cashing
> this instance of this promise.
>
>
> I transfer the bearer one Extra Vote.
>
> }

I do the following 7 times: {
I transfer Jason 42 coins for the sole purpose of cashing an instance
of the above promise.
I cash an instance of the above promise.
}

-Aris

BUS: [promise] Liquidation

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

I grant Aris an instance of the following promise 7 times:

{

Cashing conditions:

* It is strictly before June 8, 2021, UTC.

* The bearer has transferred me 42 coins for the sole purpose of cashing
this instance of this promise.


I transfer the bearer one Extra Vote.

}

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: [Promise] Definitely not selling my soul

[Cuddle Beam via agora-business]

I transfer 3 Victory Points to ATMunn and cash that Promise

On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 7:15 PM ATMunn via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I grant Cuddlebeam the following promise. {
> Cashing conditions: The bearer transferred me, in the same message, 3
> victory points.
>
> I grant Cuddlebeam the following promise: {
> Cashing conditions: The bearer has published, in the same message, a
> document with SHA-256 checksum
> 598bfa01ada0a41c70471c5873fcc988b7d3006d85fb8c99c2a776e8634e70c4; and
> one of the two scenarios described in that document has come true.
>
> I act as described in that document.
> }
> }
>
> --
> ATMunn
> friendly neighborhood notary :)
>

BUS: [Promise] Definitely not selling my soul

[ATMunn via agora-business]

I grant Cuddlebeam the following promise. {
Cashing conditions: The bearer transferred me, in the same message, 3 
victory points.


I grant Cuddlebeam the following promise: {
Cashing conditions: The bearer has published, in the same message, a 
document with SHA-256 checksum 
598bfa01ada0a41c70471c5873fcc988b7d3006d85fb8c99c2a776e8634e70c4; and 
one of the two scenarios described in that document has come true.


I act as described in that document.
}
}

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary :)

Re: BUS: [promise] Trading with the Treasuror

[Reuben Staley via agora-business]

On 2/8/21 1:17 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

I grant the following promise to the Library:

{

Cashing conditions:
Either:
- The bearer is me
- The bearer is Trigon, and e has transferred me one Voting Card.

If I am not the bearer, I perform the following:

{

I pay a fee of 4 voting cards as a set to earn 10 Extra Votes.

I transfer the bearer 3 Extra Votes.

}

}



I transfer Jason one voting card. I then cash the promise above.

--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST

I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this

BUS: [promise] Trading with the Treasuror

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

I grant the following promise to the Library:

{

Cashing conditions:
Either:
- The bearer is me
- The bearer is Trigon, and e has transferred me one Voting Card.

If I am not the bearer, I perform the following:

{

I pay a fee of 4 voting cards as a set to earn 10 Extra Votes.

I transfer the bearer 3 Extra Votes.

}

}

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: [Promise] Guess That Agoran!

[Gaelan Steele via agora-business]

> On Feb 7, 2021, at 7:43 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business 
>  wrote:
> 
> I claim the above promise was made by Gaelan.

I claim otherwise.

Gaelan

Re: BUS: [Promise] Guess That Agoran!

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

On 2/4/21 12:49 PM, Bunny via agora-business wrote:
> Under penalty of No Faking, I hereby affirm that I am a player.
>
> I grant the following promise to the Library:
>
> {
> Name: Guess That Agoran
> Text:
>
> Cashing conditions: The bearer has made a public message stating my
> identity, and I have publicly confirmed that statement to be correct.
>
> I transfer 10 boatloads of coins to the bearer.
> }
>
> I strongly discourage other players from doing either of the following:
> - have everybody make public "not me" statements based on No Faking
> - guessing every player
>
> I encourage, instead, that players discuss and try to use deduction to
> figure out my identity.
>
> The point of this is to be a fun, harmless social experiment. If I've
> set this up correctly, there should be nothing (at least, nothing
> relevant) indeterminate and no CFJs necessary.


I claim the above promise was made by Gaelan.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: [Promise] Trade deal [attn. Treasuror]

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

On 2/5/21 9:30 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
> I grant Jason the following promise:
>
> {
> Cashing condition: The bearer has transferred nix a Victory Card in the 
> same message.
>
> nix transfers 50 coins to the bearer.
> }
>

I perform the following actions if and only if they all succeed:

{

I transfer nix one Victory Card.

I cash the above promise.

}

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: [Promise] Trade deal

[nix via agora-business]

I grant Jason the following promise:

{
Cashing condition: The bearer has transferred nix a Victory Card in the 
same message.

nix transfers 50 coins to the bearer.
}

-- 
nix
Webmastor, Ministor, Herald

Re: BUS: [Promise] Slightly Janky Victory Card Auction

[nix via agora-business]

On 2/2/21 6:37 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote:
> I create the following promise and transfer it to the library: {
> Cashing Conditions: It is February 6th 2021, or later, UTC.
>
> Gaelan executes the active buy order for victory cards on the Splat Market.
> }
>
> [Explanation: Create buy orders on the splat market for victory cards. If you 
> have the highest price on Feb 6, you can make me sell it to you at that 
> price.]
>
> Gaelan

I take this promise and cash it.

-- 
nix
Webmastor, Ministor, Herald

Re: [Splat Market] Re: BUS: [Promise] Slightly Janky Victory Card Auction [attn. Notary]

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

On 2/3/21 9:20 AM, nix via agora-business wrote:
> On 2/2/21 6:37 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote:
>> I create the following promise and transfer it to the library: {
>> Cashing Conditions: It is February 6th 2021, or later, UTC.
>>
>> Gaelan executes the active buy order for victory cards on the Splat Market.
>> }
>>
>> [Explanation: Create buy orders on the splat market for victory cards. If 
>> you have the highest price on Feb 6, you can make me sell it to you at that 
>> price.]
>>
>> Gaelan
> I create a buy order in the Splat Market with he currency Victory Card and 
> the price 20 coins.
>
I become party to the Splat Market.

I create a buy order in the Splat Market with the currency Victory Card
and the price 21 coins.

I take the above promise from the library and cash it.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: [Promise] Guess That Agoran!

[Cuddle Beam via agora-business]

I CLAIM THAT THE PROMISE BELOW WAS MADE BY ARIS

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 6:49 PM Bunny via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> Under penalty of No Faking, I hereby affirm that I am a player.
>
> I grant the following promise to the Library:
>
> {
> Name: Guess That Agoran
> Text:
>
> Cashing conditions: The bearer has made a public message stating my
> identity, and I have publicly confirmed that statement to be correct.
>
> I transfer 10 boatloads of coins to the bearer.
> }
>
> I strongly discourage other players from doing either of the following:
> - have everybody make public "not me" statements based on No Faking
> - guessing every player
>
> I encourage, instead, that players discuss and try to use deduction to
> figure out my identity.
>
> The point of this is to be a fun, harmless social experiment. If I've
> set this up correctly, there should be nothing (at least, nothing
> relevant) indeterminate and no CFJs necessary.
>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promise] Guess That Agoran!

[Cuddle Beam via agora-business]

 I claim that the creator of the below promise is Aris

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 9:22 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 2/4/21 3:20 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote:
> > I claim that the creator of the above promise is Aris
>
>
> Said Cuddlebeam, non-publicly.
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
> Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason
>
>

Re: BUS: [Promise] Guess That Agoran!

[Reuben Staley via agora-business]

On 2/4/21 12:33 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

On 2/4/21 2:25 PM, Jason Cobb wrote:

On 2/4/21 12:49 PM, Bunny via agora-business wrote:

Under penalty of No Faking, I hereby affirm that I am a player.

I grant the following promise to the Library:

{
Name: Guess That Agoran
Text:

Cashing conditions: The bearer has made a public message stating my
identity, and I have publicly confirmed that statement to be correct.

I transfer 10 boatloads of coins to the bearer.
}

I strongly discourage other players from doing either of the following:
- have everybody make public "not me" statements based on No Faking
- guessing every player

I encourage, instead, that players discuss and try to use deduction to
figure out my identity.

The point of this is to be a fun, harmless social experiment. If I've
set this up correctly, there should be nothing (at least, nothing
relevant) indeterminate and no CFJs necessary.


I hereby guess Trigon.



To satisfy all the pedants out there: I claim that the creator of the
above promise is Trigon.



Incorrect. I was asleep when the message was sent.

I accuse Cuddlebeam. E seems suspicious for jumping on the random 
guessing bandwaggon.


--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST

I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this

Re: BUS: [Promise] Guess That Agoran!

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

On 2/4/21 2:25 PM, Jason Cobb wrote:
> On 2/4/21 12:49 PM, Bunny via agora-business wrote:
>> Under penalty of No Faking, I hereby affirm that I am a player.
>>
>> I grant the following promise to the Library:
>>
>> {
>> Name: Guess That Agoran
>> Text:
>>
>> Cashing conditions: The bearer has made a public message stating my
>> identity, and I have publicly confirmed that statement to be correct.
>>
>> I transfer 10 boatloads of coins to the bearer.
>> }
>>
>> I strongly discourage other players from doing either of the following:
>> - have everybody make public "not me" statements based on No Faking
>> - guessing every player
>>
>> I encourage, instead, that players discuss and try to use deduction to
>> figure out my identity.
>>
>> The point of this is to be a fun, harmless social experiment. If I've
>> set this up correctly, there should be nothing (at least, nothing
>> relevant) indeterminate and no CFJs necessary.
>
> I hereby guess Trigon.
>

To satisfy all the pedants out there: I claim that the creator of the
above promise is Trigon.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: [Promise] Guess That Agoran!

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

On 2/4/21 12:49 PM, Bunny via agora-business wrote:
> Under penalty of No Faking, I hereby affirm that I am a player.
>
> I grant the following promise to the Library:
>
> {
> Name: Guess That Agoran
> Text:
>
> Cashing conditions: The bearer has made a public message stating my
> identity, and I have publicly confirmed that statement to be correct.
>
> I transfer 10 boatloads of coins to the bearer.
> }
>
> I strongly discourage other players from doing either of the following:
> - have everybody make public "not me" statements based on No Faking
> - guessing every player
>
> I encourage, instead, that players discuss and try to use deduction to
> figure out my identity.
>
> The point of this is to be a fun, harmless social experiment. If I've
> set this up correctly, there should be nothing (at least, nothing
> relevant) indeterminate and no CFJs necessary.


I hereby guess Trigon.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promise] Guess That Agoran!

[Cuddle Beam via agora-business]

I guess that it's Aris then because, of the use, of commas, like that.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 8:05 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 2/4/21 2:04 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote:
> > We could probably run some kind of speech pattern analysis.
> >
> > BUT YOLO I GUESS THAT IT'S JASON
> >
> > SLOW CAREFUL ANALYSIS CAN'T BEAT BEING LUCKYYY
>
>
> Incorrect.
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
> Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason
>
>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promise] Guess That Agoran!

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

On 2/4/21 2:04 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote:
> We could probably run some kind of speech pattern analysis.
>
> BUT YOLO I GUESS THAT IT'S JASON
>
> SLOW CAREFUL ANALYSIS CAN'T BEAT BEING LUCKYYY


Incorrect.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: [Promise] Guess That Agoran!

[Bunny via agora-business]

Under penalty of No Faking, I hereby affirm that I am a player.

I grant the following promise to the Library:

{
Name: Guess That Agoran
Text:

Cashing conditions: The bearer has made a public message stating my
identity, and I have publicly confirmed that statement to be correct.

I transfer 10 boatloads of coins to the bearer.
}

I strongly discourage other players from doing either of the following:
- have everybody make public "not me" statements based on No Faking
- guessing every player

I encourage, instead, that players discuss and try to use deduction to
figure out my identity.

The point of this is to be a fun, harmless social experiment. If I've
set this up correctly, there should be nothing (at least, nothing
relevant) indeterminate and no CFJs necessary.

Re: BUS: [Promise] Card Collection

[Falsifian via agora-business]

On Thu, Feb 04, 2021 at 03:06:58AM +, nix via agora-business wrote:
> On 2/3/21 8:56 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
> > I create the following promise:
> >
> > {
> > Cashing Condition: The bearer has transferred one Justice Card and one
> > Voting Card to me in the same message e cashes this.
> >
> > nix transfers one Victory Card to the bearer.
> > }
> >
> > I transfer this promise to Falsifian.
> >
> > --
> > nix
> > Webmastor, Ministor, Herald
> >
> >
> If the above message did not create a promise, I grant a promise with 
> identical text to Falsifian.
> 
> -- 
> nix

If I indeed have a promise with that text, then I transfer one Justice
Card and one Voting Card to nix and then cash it.

-- 
Falsifian

Re: BUS: [Promise] Card Collection

[nix via agora-business]

On 2/3/21 8:56 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
> I create the following promise:
>
> {
> Cashing Condition: The bearer has transferred one Justice Card and one
> Voting Card to me in the same message e cashes this.
>
> nix transfers one Victory Card to the bearer.
> }
>
> I transfer this promise to Falsifian.
>
> --
> nix
> Webmastor, Ministor, Herald
>
>
If the above message did not create a promise, I grant a promise with 
identical text to Falsifian.

-- 
nix
Webmastor, Ministor, Herald

BUS: [Promise] Card Collection

[nix via agora-business]

I create the following promise:

{
Cashing Condition: The bearer has transferred one Justice Card and one 
Voting Card to me in the same message e cashes this.

nix transfers one Victory Card to the bearer.
}

I transfer this promise to Falsifian.

-- 
nix
Webmastor, Ministor, Herald

[Splat Market] Re: BUS: [Promise] Slightly Janky Victory Card Auction

[nix via agora-business]

On 2/2/21 6:37 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote:
> I create the following promise and transfer it to the library: {
> Cashing Conditions: It is February 6th 2021, or later, UTC.
>
> Gaelan executes the active buy order for victory cards on the Splat Market.
> }
>
> [Explanation: Create buy orders on the splat market for victory cards. If you 
> have the highest price on Feb 6, you can make me sell it to you at that 
> price.]
>
> Gaelan

I create a buy order in the Splat Market with he currency Victory Card and the 
price 20 coins.

-- 
nix
Webmastor, Ministor, Herald

BUS: [Promise] Slightly Janky Victory Card Auction

[Gaelan Steele via agora-business]

I create the following promise and transfer it to the library: {
Cashing Conditions: It is February 6th 2021, or later, UTC.

Gaelan executes the active buy order for victory cards on the Splat Market.
}

[Explanation: Create buy orders on the splat market for victory cards. If you 
have the highest price on Feb 6, you can make me sell it to you at that price.]

Gaelan

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promise] Legislating [attn. Treasuror]

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/20/21 2:59 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 11:54 AM ais523 via agora-discussion
>  wrote:
>> On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 14:47 -0500, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>>> On 1/20/21 2:15 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
 I grant the Library the following promise:

 {

 If I am the bearer of this promise, I can cash it at any time and it
 has no effect. Otherwise, the bearer can cash it if, by the end of the
 message in which e cashes it, I will receive 5 pendants.

 I transfer the bearer two legislative cards.
 }
>>> I have two legislative cards, one from the reset and one from Trigon.
>>>
>>> Aris has two legislative cards, one from the reset and one from
>>> Cuddle Beam.
>>>
>>> I take the above promise and cash it.
>>>
>>> I pay a fee of four Legislative cards as a set to earn 10 pendants.
>>>
>>> If I have at least 10 pendants, I transfer Aris 5 pendants.
>> If the cashing condition had been negated, this message would be a
>> trivial paradox. I think most people would rule that that sort of thing
>> doesn't work.
>>
>> Putting the cashing condition the other way round, there are two
>> internally consistent timelines for what happened (either everything
>> succeeded or everything failed). I think logically, it should fail for
>> the same reason as the paradox fails.
> Fair enough. Let's converge this.
>
> If the promise I made above is owned by the Library, I take it from
> the Library and cash it.
>
> If I have two legislative cards, I transfer them to Jason.
>
> -Aris


If I have four legislative cards, I perform the following actions:

{

I pay four legislative cards as a set.

I transfer 5 pendants to Aris.

}

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promise] Legislating [attn. Treasuror]

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 11:54 AM ais523 via agora-discussion
 wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 14:47 -0500, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> > On 1/20/21 2:15 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> > > I grant the Library the following promise:
> > >
> > > {
> > >
> > > If I am the bearer of this promise, I can cash it at any time and it
> > > has no effect. Otherwise, the bearer can cash it if, by the end of the
> > > message in which e cashes it, I will receive 5 pendants.
> > >
> > > I transfer the bearer two legislative cards.
> > > }
> >
> > I have two legislative cards, one from the reset and one from Trigon.
> >
> > Aris has two legislative cards, one from the reset and one from
> > Cuddle Beam.
> >
> > I take the above promise and cash it.
> >
> > I pay a fee of four Legislative cards as a set to earn 10 pendants.
> >
> > If I have at least 10 pendants, I transfer Aris 5 pendants.
>
> If the cashing condition had been negated, this message would be a
> trivial paradox. I think most people would rule that that sort of thing
> doesn't work.
>
> Putting the cashing condition the other way round, there are two
> internally consistent timelines for what happened (either everything
> succeeded or everything failed). I think logically, it should fail for
> the same reason as the paradox fails.

Fair enough. Let's converge this.

If the promise I made above is owned by the Library, I take it from
the Library and cash it.

If I have two legislative cards, I transfer them to Jason.

-Aris

Re: BUS: [Promise] Legislating [attn. Treasuror]

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/20/21 2:15 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> I grant the Library the following promise:
>
> {
>
> If I am the bearer of this promise, I can cash it at any time and it
> has no effect. Otherwise, the bearer can cash it if, by the end of the
> message in which e cashes it, I will receive 5 pendants.
>
> I transfer the bearer two legislative cards.
> }


I have two legislative cards, one from the reset and one from Trigon.

Aris has two legislative cards, one from the reset and one from Cuddle Beam.

I take the above promise and cash it.

I pay a fee of four Legislative cards as a set to earn 10 pendants.

If I have at least 10 pendants, I transfer Aris 5 pendants.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason

Re: BUS: [Promise] Legislating

[Reuben Staley via agora-business]

On 1/20/21 12:05 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

I grant Trigon the following promise:

{

I transfer the bearer 110 coins.

Cashing conditions: The bearer has transferred me one legislative card
in this message.

}



I transfer one legislative card to Jason and cash the above promise.

--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST

I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this

Re: BUS: [Promise] Learning nothing from history

[Cuddle Beam via agora-business]

I transfer one Voting Card and one Justice Card to Jason and cash in that
Promise

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 8:14 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> I grant CuddleBeam the following promise:
>
> {
>
> I transfer the bearer one Victory Card.
>
> Cashing conditions: the bearer, in the same message, transfers me one
> Voting Card and one Justice Card.
>
> }
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
> Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
>
>

Re: BUS: [Promise] Legislating

[Aris Merchant via agora-business]

I grant the Library the following promise:

{

If I am the bearer of this promise, I can cash it at any time and it
has no effect. Otherwise, the bearer can cash it if, by the end of the
message in which e cashes it, I will receive 5 pendants.

I transfer the bearer two legislative cards.
}

BUS: [Promise] Learning nothing from history

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

I grant CuddleBeam the following promise:

{

I transfer the bearer one Victory Card.

Cashing conditions: the bearer, in the same message, transfers me one
Voting Card and one Justice Card.

}

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason

BUS: [Promise] Legislating

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

I grant Trigon the following promise:

{

I transfer the bearer 110 coins.

Cashing conditions: The bearer has transferred me one legislative card
in this message.

}

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason

Re: BUS: [Promise] Paid testing

[Gaelan Steele via agora-business]

> On Jan 8, 2021, at 3:10 PM, Falsifian via agora-business 
>  wrote:
> 
> I grant 3 copies of the below promise (delimited by {...}) to the Library.
> 
> Summary: figure out Agoran Exchange, get Coins.
> 
> (Taking advantage of the lack of authentication is premitted but not
> encouraged.)
> 
> Instructions:
> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-discussion/2021-January/060646.html
> 
> Title of the promises: Agoran Exchange Testing
> 
> {
> 
> Cashing conditions:
> 
> * The bearer has not previously cashed a copy of this promise; and
> 
> * The bearer has at some point transferred some "falsifian:whuffie" to
>  "falsifian" on Falsifian's Agoran Exchange server, as determined solely by
>  the Agoran Exchange's event log (typically sent to the agora-discussion list)
>  and a reasonable matching of Agoran Exchange usernames to Agoran identities;
>  e.g. the username "shy_owl" on Agoran Exchange matches the person we know as
>  Shy Owl.
> 
> I transfer 20 Coins to the bearer.
> 
> }
> 
> — 
> Falsifian

I take and cash an instance of this promise.

Gaelan

Re: BUS: [Promise] Paid testing

[JTAC via agora-business]

On 9/1/2021 7:10 am, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
> I grant 3 copies of the below promise (delimited by {...}) to the Library.
> 
> Summary: figure out Agoran Exchange, get Coins.
> 
> (Taking advantage of the lack of authentication is premitted but not
> encouraged.)
> 
> Instructions:
> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-discussion/2021-January/060646.html
> 
> Title of the promises: Agoran Exchange Testing
> 
> {
> 
> Cashing conditions:
> 
> * The bearer has not previously cashed a copy of this promise; and
> 
> * The bearer has at some point transferred some "falsifian:whuffie" to
>   "falsifian" on Falsifian's Agoran Exchange server, as determined solely by
>   the Agoran Exchange's event log (typically sent to the agora-discussion 
> list)
>   and a reasonable matching of Agoran Exchange usernames to Agoran identities;
>   e.g. the username "shy_owl" on Agoran Exchange matches the person we know as
>   Shy Owl.
> 
> I transfer 20 Coins to the bearer.
> 
> }
> 
I take an instance of this promise and cash it.

-- 
JTAC
Interim Referee

Re: BUS: [Promise] Paid testing

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/8/21 6:10 PM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
> I grant 3 copies of the below promise (delimited by {...}) to the Library.
>
> Summary: figure out Agoran Exchange, get Coins.
>
> (Taking advantage of the lack of authentication is premitted but not
> encouraged.)
>
> Instructions:
> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-discussion/2021-January/060646.html
>
> Title of the promises: Agoran Exchange Testing
>
> {
>
> Cashing conditions:
>
> * The bearer has not previously cashed a copy of this promise; and
>
> * The bearer has at some point transferred some "falsifian:whuffie" to
>   "falsifian" on Falsifian's Agoran Exchange server, as determined solely by
>   the Agoran Exchange's event log (typically sent to the agora-discussion 
> list)
>   and a reasonable matching of Agoran Exchange usernames to Agoran identities;
>   e.g. the username "shy_owl" on Agoran Exchange matches the person we know as
>   Shy Owl.
>
> I transfer 20 Coins to the bearer.
>
> }
>

I take one instance of this promise from the Library and cash it.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason

BUS: [Promise] Paid testing

[Falsifian via agora-business]

I grant 3 copies of the below promise (delimited by {...}) to the Library.

Summary: figure out Agoran Exchange, get Coins.

(Taking advantage of the lack of authentication is premitted but not
encouraged.)

Instructions:
https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-discussion/2021-January/060646.html

Title of the promises: Agoran Exchange Testing

{

Cashing conditions:

* The bearer has not previously cashed a copy of this promise; and

* The bearer has at some point transferred some "falsifian:whuffie" to
  "falsifian" on Falsifian's Agoran Exchange server, as determined solely by
  the Agoran Exchange's event log (typically sent to the agora-discussion list)
  and a reasonable matching of Agoran Exchange usernames to Agoran identities;
  e.g. the username "shy_owl" on Agoran Exchange matches the person we know as
  Shy Owl.

I transfer 20 Coins to the bearer.

}

-- 
Falsifian

BUS: [Promise] Slightly more legitimate lime bait

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

I grant ATMunn the following promise:

{

Cashing conditions: In the same message, the bearer has created and
distributed a proposal with Jason as a coauthor.

I transfer one pendant to the bearer.

}

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor

[Attn. Treasuror] Re: BUS: [Promise] Promising Victory

[Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business]

On 8/15/20 6:17 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
> I grant myself the following promise and transfer it to PSS:
> 
> {
> 
> Cashing Condition: PSS transfers 2 victory cards to nix.
> 
> Effect: Nix pays 4 victory cards for 10 victory points. Nix transfers 5 
> victory points to PSS.
> 
> }
> 

I cash this promise while transferring 2 victory cards to nix, causing
em to pay 4 victory cards for 10 victory points and to transfer five
victory points to me.

-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth

BUS: [Promise] Promising Victory

[nix via agora-business]

I grant myself the following promise and transfer it to PSS:

{

Cashing Condition: PSS transfers 2 victory cards to nix.

Effect: Nix pays 4 victory cards for 10 victory points. Nix transfers 5 
victory points to PSS.

}

-- 
nix
Prime Minister, Webmastor

[@Treasuror] Re: Fwd: Re: BUS: [Promise] notary sells voting power

[ATMunn via agora-business]

As per my pledge, I grant G. another voting card.

Pleasure doing business!

On 7/30/2020 1:49 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:


[Without any conditionals this time.]

I transfer the below-referenced promise from the library to myself.

I transfer ATMunn a Victory Card.

I cash the below-referenced promise, thereby causing ATMunn to grant me
one voting card.

DISCLAIMER: The above actions may fail if they previously succeeded.

On 7/30/2020 10:42 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:

On 7/30/20 1:40 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:

I grant myself the following promise and transfer it to the Library:

Title: Votes for a Card

--

This promise may be cashed if and only if the bearer has, in the same
message, transferred ATMunn at least one card of any type.

When this promise is cashed, if e is able to, ATMunn grants the bearer 1
Voting Card.



I transfer the above promise from the library to myself.

I transfer ATMunn my Victory Card.

I cash the above promise, thereby causing ATMunn to grant me one voting
card.



--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary and Czar of Russia :)

Fwd: Re: BUS: [Promise] notary sells voting power

[Kerim Aydin via agora-business]

[Without any conditionals this time.]

I transfer the below-referenced promise from the library to myself.

I transfer ATMunn a Victory Card.

I cash the below-referenced promise, thereby causing ATMunn to grant me
one voting card.

DISCLAIMER: The above actions may fail if they previously succeeded.

On 7/30/2020 10:42 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 7/30/20 1:40 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
>> I grant myself the following promise and transfer it to the Library:
>>
>> Title: Votes for a Card
>>
>> --
>>
>> This promise may be cashed if and only if the bearer has, in the same
>> message, transferred ATMunn at least one card of any type.
>>
>> When this promise is cashed, if e is able to, ATMunn grants the bearer 1
>> Voting Card.
> 
> 
> I transfer the above promise from the library to myself.
> 
> I transfer ATMunn my Victory Card.
> 
> I cash the above promise, thereby causing ATMunn to grant me one voting
> card.
> 

Re: BUS: [Promise] notary sells voting power

[Kerim Aydin via agora-business]

If the below actions by Jason failed then:

  I transfer the above promise from the library to myself.

  I transfer ATMunn my Victory Card.

  I cash the above promise, thereby causing ATMunn to grant me one voting
  card.



On 7/30/2020 10:42 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 7/30/20 1:40 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
>> I grant myself the following promise and transfer it to the Library:
>>
>> Title: Votes for a Card
>>
>> --
>>
>> This promise may be cashed if and only if the bearer has, in the same
>> message, transferred ATMunn at least one card of any type.
>>
>> When this promise is cashed, if e is able to, ATMunn grants the bearer 1
>> Voting Card.
> 
> 
> I transfer the above promise from the library to myself.
> 
> I transfer ATMunn my Victory Card.
> 
> I cash the above promise, thereby causing ATMunn to grant me one voting
> card.
> 

Re: BUS: [Promise] notary sells voting power

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

On 7/30/20 1:42 PM, Jason Cobb wrote:
> On 7/30/20 1:40 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
>> I grant myself the following promise and transfer it to the Library:
>>
>> Title: Votes for a Card
>>
>> --
>>
>> This promise may be cashed if and only if the bearer has, in the same
>> message, transferred ATMunn at least one card of any type.
>>
>> When this promise is cashed, if e is able to, ATMunn grants the bearer 1
>> Voting Card.
>
> I transfer the above promise from the library to myself.
>
> I transfer ATMunn my Victory Card.
>
> I cash the above promise, thereby causing ATMunn to grant me one voting
> card.
>

Okay, this failed because I have no victory card, only a voting card.
The promise still belongs to the library, since I failed to cash it.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Re: BUS: [Promise] notary sells voting power

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

On 7/30/20 1:40 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
> I grant myself the following promise and transfer it to the Library:
>
> Title: Votes for a Card
>
> --
>
> This promise may be cashed if and only if the bearer has, in the same
> message, transferred ATMunn at least one card of any type.
>
> When this promise is cashed, if e is able to, ATMunn grants the bearer 1
> Voting Card.


I transfer the above promise from the library to myself.

I transfer ATMunn my Victory Card.

I cash the above promise, thereby causing ATMunn to grant me one voting
card.

-- 
Jason Cobb

BUS: [Promise] notary sells voting power

[ATMunn via agora-business]

I grant myself the following promise and transfer it to the Library:

Title: Votes for a Card

--

This promise may be cashed if and only if the bearer has, in the same
message, transferred ATMunn at least one card of any type.

When this promise is cashed, if e is able to, ATMunn grants the bearer 1
Voting Card.

--


I pledge that if this promise is cashed before the end of July, I will
additionally grant the person who cashed the promise a second Voting
Card. The title of this pledge is "Sweetening the deal" and its time
window lasts until either the end of August or when the pledge is
fulfilled, whichever comes first.

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary and Czar of Russia :)

[attn. Notary, Treasuror] Re: BUS: [Promise] Legislative Split

[Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business]

On 7/23/20 6:17 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote:
> I grant myself a promise with the text:
> 
> {
> Cashing conditions: P.S.S. has transferred Trigon 2 Legislative Cards in
> the same message as the cashing of this promise.
> 
> Effects: Trigon destroys 4 Legislative Cards in order to grant emself 10
> Pendants. Trigon then transfers 5 Pendants to P.S.S.
> }
> 
> I transfer that promise to P.S.S.
> 

I cash this promise by transferring 2 legislative cards to Trigon,
causing em to destroy them and grant emself 10 Pendants, 5 of which e is
caused to transfer to me.

Thank you, Trigon, it's been nice doing business with you.

-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth

BUS: [Promise] Legislative Split

[Reuben Staley via agora-business]

I grant myself a promise with the text:

{
Cashing conditions: P.S.S. has transferred Trigon 2 Legislative Cards in 
the same message as the cashing of this promise.


Effects: Trigon destroys 4 Legislative Cards in order to grant emself 10 
Pendants. Trigon then transfers 5 Pendants to P.S.S.

}

I transfer that promise to P.S.S.

--
Trigon

I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this

[Cashing; @ Treasuror] Re: BUS: [Promise] Justice for hire

[Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business]

On 7/13/20 6:01 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> I create the following promise and transfer it to the Library:
> 
> {
> 
> Cashing conditions: the bearer has transferred or granted Jason 1
> Justice card in the same message as which e cashes this promise.
> 
> I transfer the bearer 15 coins.
> 
> }
> 

I do the following as long as all actions are successful:

I transfer this promise to myself from the Library.

With reference to the office of Referee, I grant Jason 1 Justice card.

I cash this promise, causing Jason to transfer 15 coins to me.
-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth

BUS: [Promise] Justice for hire

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

I create the following promise and transfer it to the Library:

{

Cashing conditions: the bearer has transferred or granted Jason 1
Justice card in the same message as which e cashes this promise.

I transfer the bearer 15 coins.

}

-- 
Jason Cobb

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promise] Treasure

[omd via agora-business]

On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 7:33 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
 wrote:
> Promises can only be possessed by Agora, players, contracts, and the
> Library. A promise is none of those.

Oops, I missed the default ownership restriction in R2576.  Oh well.
I transfer the promise I created earlier to the Lost and Found
Department.

BUS: [Promise] Treasure

[omd via agora-business]

I grant myself a promise with the text "I pay 200 coins to the bearer".

I transfer that promise to itself.

[Pledge Fulfillment] Re: [Cards] Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promise] Legislative for Justice

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

On 6/16/20 5:10 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
wrote:
> Okay, here's another try: If all of the following actions succeed, I
> grant Jason a Justice Card and transfer a Legislative Card to em, I
> transfer eir promise from the Library to myself and cash it.


I believe that works. I transfer a Justice Card to PSS, thus fulfilling
my pledge to do so.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Re: [Cards] Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promise] Legislative for Justice

[Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business]

On 6/16/20 5:05 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 6/16/20 5:00 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
> wrote:
>> If all of the following actions succeed, I transfer Jason's promise from
>> the Library to myself, I grant Jason a Justice Card and transfer a
>> Legislative Card to em, I cash this promise, and, acting on eir behalf,
>> I grant myself a Legislative Card.
> 
> *sigh*, I'm sorry about this. Cashing the promise was the acting on my
> behalf, so you couldn't act on my behalf again, which means that none of
> the actions succeeded.
> 
Okay, here's another try: If all of the following actions succeed, I
grant Jason a Justice Card and transfer a Legislative Card to em, I
transfer eir promise from the Library to myself and cash it.

-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth

[Cards] Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promise] Legislative for Justice

[Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business]

On 6/16/20 4:57 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 6/16/20 4:56 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
> wrote:
>> I grant Jason a Justice Card and transfer a Legislative Card to em.
>> Acting on eir behalf, I grant myself a Legislative Card.
> 
> 
> I believe you need to explicitly say that you cash the promise.
> 
> Rule 2618:
> 
>>   A promise's bearer CAN, by announcement, cash the promise,
>>   provided that any conditions for cashing it specified by its text
>>   are unambiguously met. By doing so, e acts on the creator of the
>>   promise's behalf, causing the creator to act as if e published the
>>   promise's text, and destroys the promise. The bearer SHOULD recite
>>   the promise's essential attributes in the same message e cashes
>>   it.
> 

If all of the following actions succeed, I transfer Jason's promise from
the Library to myself, I grant Jason a Justice Card and transfer a
Legislative Card to em, I cash this promise, and, acting on eir behalf,
I grant myself a Legislative Card.

-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth

Re: BUS: [Promise] Legislative for Justice

[Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business]

On 6/16/20 4:48 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 6/13/20 12:58 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>> I create the following promise:
>>
>> Title: Legislative for Justice
>>
>> Text:
>>
>> {
>>
>> Cashing conditions: {Jason CAN, under Rule 2624, by announcement grant
>> the bearer a Legislative Card; the bearer has, in the same message as
>> which e cashes this promise, granted Jason a Justice Card via Rule 2624;
>> the bearer, in the same message as which e cashes this promise,
>> transfers Jason at least one Legislative Card.}
>>
>> Using the mechanism specified in Rule 2624, I grant the bearer a
>> Legislative Card.
>>
>> }
>>
>>
>> I transfer the above-created promise to the Library.
>>
> 
> I intend, without objection, to revoke the above promise from the
> Library (since nobody's taken me up on it).
> 

Actually, I'll take you up on this. All actions taken in this message
are dependent on the success of the others. If any of these actions
fail, I have taken none of them.

I grant Jason a Justice Card and transfer a Legislative Card to em.
Acting on eir behalf, I grant myself a Legislative Card.

-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth

Re: BUS: [Promise] Legislative for Justice

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

On 6/13/20 12:58 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> I create the following promise:
>
> Title: Legislative for Justice
>
> Text:
>
> {
>
> Cashing conditions: {Jason CAN, under Rule 2624, by announcement grant
> the bearer a Legislative Card; the bearer has, in the same message as
> which e cashes this promise, granted Jason a Justice Card via Rule 2624;
> the bearer, in the same message as which e cashes this promise,
> transfers Jason at least one Legislative Card.}
>
> Using the mechanism specified in Rule 2624, I grant the bearer a
> Legislative Card.
>
> }
>
>
> I transfer the above-created promise to the Library.
>

I intend, without objection, to revoke the above promise from the
Library (since nobody's taken me up on it).

-- 
Jason Cobb

Re: BUS: [Promise] Legislative for Justice

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

On 6/13/20 12:58 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> I create the following promise:
>
> Title: Legislative for Justice
>
> Text:
>
> {
>
> Cashing conditions: {Jason CAN, under Rule 2624, by announcement grant
> the bearer a Legislative Card; the bearer has, in the same message as
> which e cashes this promise, granted Jason a Justice Card via Rule 2624;
> the bearer, in the same message as which e cashes this promise,
> transfers Jason at least one Legislative Card.}
>
> Using the mechanism specified in Rule 2624, I grant the bearer a
> Legislative Card.
>
> }
>
>
> I transfer the above-created promise to the Library.
>

Whoops, I just realized I never transferred the Justice Card to the
bearer. I pledge that, within one day after the above promise is cashed,
I will transfer the casher 1 Justice Card; this pledge expires when I do so.

-- 
Jason Cobb

BUS: [Promise] Legislative for Justice

[Jason Cobb via agora-business]

I create the following promise:

Title: Legislative for Justice

Text:

{

Cashing conditions: {Jason CAN, under Rule 2624, by announcement grant
the bearer a Legislative Card; the bearer has, in the same message as
which e cashes this promise, granted Jason a Justice Card via Rule 2624;
the bearer, in the same message as which e cashes this promise,
transfers Jason at least one Legislative Card.}

Using the mechanism specified in Rule 2624, I grant the bearer a
Legislative Card.

}


I transfer the above-created promise to the Library.

-- 
Jason Cobb

Re: BUS: Promise

[Alex Smith]

On Wed, 2017-07-05 at 10:30 +0100, V.J Rada wrote:
> I CFJ on "In the message to agora discussion stating "haha suck it",
> V.J. Rada broke a Pledge."
> Also I bar CB.
> 
> Argument
> 
> 1. Pledge and promise are synonyms in ordinary meaning.
>  Does that mean a promise counts as per the rules?
> 2. Can a post to A-D have the effect of breaking a pledge,
> even if it doesn't have other game effects?
> 3. Pledges to refrain from an action have to be for a limited
> time. Does that include the practically unlimited period of the sun's
> existence?

Gratuitous arguments:

"Pledge" and "Promise" have both had formal definitions in Agora in the
past (which made it clear that they were two different things), but
both of these definitions have since been repealed. Have these
influenced game custom? Or does the fact that the definitions were
repealed mean that any precedents from the time no longer apply?

Under the old definition of "pledge", players have been punished in the
past for actions unconnected with any Agoran fora. For example, a
player pledged to ascend a game of NetHack on a public NetHack server
(unrelated to the Agoran mailing lists) and failed to do so, leading to
a CFJ ruling that a rule was violated.

The first paragraph of rule 478 contains "it is hereby resolved that no
Player shall be prohibited from participating in the Fora". This has in
the past been taken to mean that rules penalising people for
communicating via the Fora (as opposed to communicating something in
particular via the Fora) have no effect. Does that apply in this case?
Note that IIRC there's more than one discussion forum (##nomic on
irc.freenode.net is the other one, but it's an IRC channel not a
mailing list). If it does apply, did the /making/ of the pledge violate
rule 478?

> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:27 AM, V.J Rada  wrote:
> 
> > haha suck it
> > 
> > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:26 AM, V.J Rada 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > I promise not to post in agora discussion within the period of
> > > the sun's
> > > existence
> > > 
> > 
> > 

Re: BUS: Promise

[Charles Walker]

On 17 Jun 2013, at 06:34, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote:

 I submit a promise with text {I spend a single VC to increase the
 specified player's VVLOP by one.}, conditions for cashing {The casher
 has, as a cost to cash this promise, increased my VVLOP by one.}, and
 conditions for author destruction {True.}

As a cost for cashing the above quoted promise, I spend a VC to increase 
scshunt's VVLOP by one. I transfer the above quoted promise to myself and cash 
it, specifying myself.

-- Walker

Re: BUS: Promise

[Sean Hunt]

On Jun 17, 2013 4:07 AM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On 17 Jun 2013, at 06:34, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote:

  I submit a promise with text {I spend a single VC to increase the
  specified player's VVLOP by one.}, conditions for cashing {The casher
  has, as a cost to cash this promise, increased my VVLOP by one.}, and
  conditions for author destruction {True.}

 As a cost for cashing the above quoted promise, I spend a VC to increase
scshunt's VVLOP by one. I transfer the above quoted promise to myself and
cash it, specifying myself.

 -- Walker

I spend 10 VCs to increase my vvlop by 5.

-scshunt

BUS: Promise

[Sean Hunt]

I submit a promise with text {I spend a single VC to increase the
specified player's VVLOP by one.}, conditions for cashing {The casher
has, as a cost to cash this promise, increased my VVLOP by one.}, and
conditions for author destruction {True.}

-scshunt