Re: DIS: [Meta] Linguistic Experimentation
Without objection, I do so. .ui.o'u (contented happiness). -Aris On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 4:41 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I propose to conduct an experiment into the nature of the Agoran > dialect, and specifically how easy it is to change it. I'm planning to > start occasionally sprinkling some Lojban indicators [1] into my > emails. They represent expressions like "yay!", ";)", or "IMO", but > Lojban has many more of them than English. I will gloss most of them, > and guarantee that I will gloss anything that substantially changes > the meaning of a sentence. This isn't an attempt to do an experiment > from the perspective of rules or formal actions (I don't expect to do > anything that causes a CFJ). Instead, I'm just going to start using > some useful expressions and see if any of them become part of standard > Agoran. Of course, I would encourage other interested parties to try > doing the same thing. Does anyone have any objections to this > proposal? > > [1] > https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-chapter-chunks/chapter-attitudinals.html > > -Aris >
Re: DIS: [Meta] Linguistic Experimentation
haha gotcha i don't know crap about anything except american law i guess and even that interest is very casual. i flaunt my own ignorance. On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 12:16 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Indeed. Or perhaps "All Agorans are snerds". > > -Aris > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 5:04 PM Reuben Staley > wrote: > > > > Instead, how about we adopt the following term: > > > > snerd > > > > * American English /snɚd/ > > * British English /snəd/ > > > > (noun) 1. short for "super nerd"; i.e. "People who know Lojban are > snerds" > > > > -- > > Trigon > > > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018, 17:41 Aris Merchant < > > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > I propose to conduct an experiment into the nature of the Agoran > > > dialect, and specifically how easy it is to change it. I'm planning to > > > start occasionally sprinkling some Lojban indicators [1] into my > > > emails. They represent expressions like "yay!", ";)", or "IMO", but > > > Lojban has many more of them than English. I will gloss most of them, > > > and guarantee that I will gloss anything that substantially changes > > > the meaning of a sentence. This isn't an attempt to do an experiment > > > from the perspective of rules or formal actions (I don't expect to do > > > anything that causes a CFJ). Instead, I'm just going to start using > > > some useful expressions and see if any of them become part of standard > > > Agoran. Of course, I would encourage other interested parties to try > > > doing the same thing. Does anyone have any objections to this > > > proposal? > > > > > > [1] > > > > https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-chapter-chunks/chapter-attitudinals.html > > > > > > -Aris > > > > -- >From V.J. Rada
Re: DIS: [Meta] Linguistic Experimentation
I would like to congratulate you on (1) being, surprisingly, the second person to berate me due to my lack of vowel transliteration knowledge, and (2) demonstrating how much of a snerd you yourself are in the process. On 11/23/18 11:17 PM, Jakob Burgos wrote: The pronunciations should probably be the following: * American English /snɝːd/ * Received Pronunciation /snɜːd/ On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 8:04 PM Reuben Staley wrote: Instead, how about we adopt the following term: snerd * American English /snɚd/ * British English /snəd/ (noun) 1. short for "super nerd"; i.e. "People who know Lojban are snerds" -- Trigon On Thu, Nov 22, 2018, 17:41 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com wrote: I propose to conduct an experiment into the nature of the Agoran dialect, and specifically how easy it is to change it. I'm planning to start occasionally sprinkling some Lojban indicators [1] into my emails. They represent expressions like "yay!", ";)", or "IMO", but Lojban has many more of them than English. I will gloss most of them, and guarantee that I will gloss anything that substantially changes the meaning of a sentence. This isn't an attempt to do an experiment from the perspective of rules or formal actions (I don't expect to do anything that causes a CFJ). Instead, I'm just going to start using some useful expressions and see if any of them become part of standard Agoran. Of course, I would encourage other interested parties to try doing the same thing. Does anyone have any objections to this proposal? [1] https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-chapter-chunks/chapter-attitudinals.html -Aris -- Trigon
Re: DIS: [Meta] Linguistic Experimentation
The pronunciations should probably be the following: * American English /snɝːd/ * Received Pronunciation /snɜːd/ On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 8:04 PM Reuben Staley wrote: > Instead, how about we adopt the following term: > > snerd > > * American English /snɚd/ > * British English /snəd/ > > (noun) 1. short for "super nerd"; i.e. "People who know Lojban are snerds" > > -- > Trigon > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018, 17:41 Aris Merchant < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I propose to conduct an experiment into the nature of the Agoran > > dialect, and specifically how easy it is to change it. I'm planning to > > start occasionally sprinkling some Lojban indicators [1] into my > > emails. They represent expressions like "yay!", ";)", or "IMO", but > > Lojban has many more of them than English. I will gloss most of them, > > and guarantee that I will gloss anything that substantially changes > > the meaning of a sentence. This isn't an attempt to do an experiment > > from the perspective of rules or formal actions (I don't expect to do > > anything that causes a CFJ). Instead, I'm just going to start using > > some useful expressions and see if any of them become part of standard > > Agoran. Of course, I would encourage other interested parties to try > > doing the same thing. Does anyone have any objections to this > > proposal? > > > > [1] > > > https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-chapter-chunks/chapter-attitudinals.html > > > > -Aris > > >
Re: DIS: [Meta] Linguistic Experimentation
Careful, Lojban. Loglan is Lojban's predecessor, and is widely considered to be deprecated, despite some people still trying to use it. -Aris On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 7:43 PM Jacob Arduino wrote: > The Loglan and the Snerds both seem like useful constructions, and not at > all mutually exclusive. I'll be sure to try my hand at both. > > - Jacob Arduino > > On Nov 22, 2018 20:16, "Aris Merchant" > > wrote: > > Indeed. Or perhaps "All Agorans are snerds". > > > -Aris > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 5:04 PM Reuben Staley > wrote: > > > > Instead, how about we adopt the following term: > > > > snerd > > > > * American English /snɚd/ > > * British English /snəd/ > > > > (noun) 1. short for "super nerd"; i.e. "People who know Lojban are > snerds" > > > > -- > > Trigon > > > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018, 17:41 Aris Merchant < > > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > I propose to conduct an experiment into the nature of the Agoran > > > dialect, and specifically how easy it is to change it. I'm planning to > > > start occasionally sprinkling some Lojban indicators [1] into my > > > emails. They represent expressions like "yay!", ";)", or "IMO", but > > > Lojban has many more of them than English. I will gloss most of them, > > > and guarantee that I will gloss anything that substantially changes > > > the meaning of a sentence. This isn't an attempt to do an experiment > > > from the perspective of rules or formal actions (I don't expect to do > > > anything that causes a CFJ). Instead, I'm just going to start using > > > some useful expressions and see if any of them become part of standard > > > Agoran. Of course, I would encourage other interested parties to try > > > doing the same thing. Does anyone have any objections to this > > > proposal? > > > > > > [1] > > > > > https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-chapter-chunks/chapter-attitudinals.html > > > > > > -Aris > > > >
Re: DIS: [Meta] Linguistic Experimentation
The Loglan and the Snerds both seem like useful constructions, and not at all mutually exclusive. I'll be sure to try my hand at both. - Jacob Arduino On Nov 22, 2018 20:16, "Aris Merchant" wrote: Indeed. Or perhaps "All Agorans are snerds". -Aris On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 5:04 PM Reuben Staley wrote: > > Instead, how about we adopt the following term: > > snerd > > * American English /snɚd/ > * British English /snəd/ > > (noun) 1. short for "super nerd"; i.e. "People who know Lojban are snerds" > > -- > Trigon > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018, 17:41 Aris Merchant < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I propose to conduct an experiment into the nature of the Agoran > > dialect, and specifically how easy it is to change it. I'm planning to > > start occasionally sprinkling some Lojban indicators [1] into my > > emails. They represent expressions like "yay!", ";)", or "IMO", but > > Lojban has many more of them than English. I will gloss most of them, > > and guarantee that I will gloss anything that substantially changes > > the meaning of a sentence. This isn't an attempt to do an experiment > > from the perspective of rules or formal actions (I don't expect to do > > anything that causes a CFJ). Instead, I'm just going to start using > > some useful expressions and see if any of them become part of standard > > Agoran. Of course, I would encourage other interested parties to try > > doing the same thing. Does anyone have any objections to this > > proposal? > > > > [1] > > https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-chapter-chunks/chapter-attitudinals.html > > > > -Aris > >
Re: DIS: [Meta] Linguistic Experimentation
Indeed. Or perhaps "All Agorans are snerds". -Aris On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 5:04 PM Reuben Staley wrote: > > Instead, how about we adopt the following term: > > snerd > > * American English /snɚd/ > * British English /snəd/ > > (noun) 1. short for "super nerd"; i.e. "People who know Lojban are snerds" > > -- > Trigon > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018, 17:41 Aris Merchant < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I propose to conduct an experiment into the nature of the Agoran > > dialect, and specifically how easy it is to change it. I'm planning to > > start occasionally sprinkling some Lojban indicators [1] into my > > emails. They represent expressions like "yay!", ";)", or "IMO", but > > Lojban has many more of them than English. I will gloss most of them, > > and guarantee that I will gloss anything that substantially changes > > the meaning of a sentence. This isn't an attempt to do an experiment > > from the perspective of rules or formal actions (I don't expect to do > > anything that causes a CFJ). Instead, I'm just going to start using > > some useful expressions and see if any of them become part of standard > > Agoran. Of course, I would encourage other interested parties to try > > doing the same thing. Does anyone have any objections to this > > proposal? > > > > [1] > > https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-chapter-chunks/chapter-attitudinals.html > > > > -Aris > >
Re: DIS: [Meta] Linguistic Experimentation
je'e mi'e eris On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 5:00 PM Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > .u'i .o'iru'e > > -twg > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Friday, November 23, 2018 12:40 AM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > > I propose to conduct an experiment into the nature of the Agoran > > dialect, and specifically how easy it is to change it. I'm planning to > > start occasionally sprinkling some Lojban indicators [1] into my > > emails. They represent expressions like "yay!", ";)", or "IMO", but > > Lojban has many more of them than English. I will gloss most of them, > > and guarantee that I will gloss anything that substantially changes > > the meaning of a sentence. This isn't an attempt to do an experiment > > from the perspective of rules or formal actions (I don't expect to do > > anything that causes a CFJ). Instead, I'm just going to start using > > some useful expressions and see if any of them become part of standard > > Agoran. Of course, I would encourage other interested parties to try > > doing the same thing. Does anyone have any objections to this > > proposal? > > > > [1] > > https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-chapter-chunks/chapter-attitudinals.html > > > > -Aris > >
Re: DIS: [Meta] Linguistic Experimentation
also: https://xkcd.com/191/ -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, November 23, 2018 1:04 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: > Instead, how about we adopt the following term: > > snerd > > - American English /snɚd/ > - British English /snəd/ > > (noun) 1. short for "super nerd"; i.e. "People who know Lojban are snerds" > > -- > Trigon > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018, 17:41 Aris Merchant < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > I propose to conduct an experiment into the nature of the Agoran > > dialect, and specifically how easy it is to change it. I'm planning to > > start occasionally sprinkling some Lojban indicators [1] into my > > emails. They represent expressions like "yay!", ";)", or "IMO", but > > Lojban has many more of them than English. I will gloss most of them, > > and guarantee that I will gloss anything that substantially changes > > the meaning of a sentence. This isn't an attempt to do an experiment > > from the perspective of rules or formal actions (I don't expect to do > > anything that causes a CFJ). Instead, I'm just going to start using > > some useful expressions and see if any of them become part of standard > > Agoran. Of course, I would encourage other interested parties to try > > doing the same thing. Does anyone have any objections to this > > proposal? > > [1] > > https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-chapter-chunks/chapter-attitudinals.html > > -Aris
Re: DIS: [Meta] Linguistic Experimentation
Instead, how about we adopt the following term: snerd * American English /snɚd/ * British English /snəd/ (noun) 1. short for "super nerd"; i.e. "People who know Lojban are snerds" -- Trigon On Thu, Nov 22, 2018, 17:41 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com wrote: > I propose to conduct an experiment into the nature of the Agoran > dialect, and specifically how easy it is to change it. I'm planning to > start occasionally sprinkling some Lojban indicators [1] into my > emails. They represent expressions like "yay!", ";)", or "IMO", but > Lojban has many more of them than English. I will gloss most of them, > and guarantee that I will gloss anything that substantially changes > the meaning of a sentence. This isn't an attempt to do an experiment > from the perspective of rules or formal actions (I don't expect to do > anything that causes a CFJ). Instead, I'm just going to start using > some useful expressions and see if any of them become part of standard > Agoran. Of course, I would encourage other interested parties to try > doing the same thing. Does anyone have any objections to this > proposal? > > [1] > https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-chapter-chunks/chapter-attitudinals.html > > -Aris >
Re: DIS: [Meta] Linguistic Experimentation
.u'i .o'iru'e -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, November 23, 2018 12:40 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > I propose to conduct an experiment into the nature of the Agoran > dialect, and specifically how easy it is to change it. I'm planning to > start occasionally sprinkling some Lojban indicators [1] into my > emails. They represent expressions like "yay!", ";)", or "IMO", but > Lojban has many more of them than English. I will gloss most of them, > and guarantee that I will gloss anything that substantially changes > the meaning of a sentence. This isn't an attempt to do an experiment > from the perspective of rules or formal actions (I don't expect to do > anything that causes a CFJ). Instead, I'm just going to start using > some useful expressions and see if any of them become part of standard > Agoran. Of course, I would encourage other interested parties to try > doing the same thing. Does anyone have any objections to this > proposal? > > [1] > https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-chapter-chunks/chapter-attitudinals.html > > -Aris
DIS: [Meta] Linguistic Experimentation
I propose to conduct an experiment into the nature of the Agoran dialect, and specifically how easy it is to change it. I'm planning to start occasionally sprinkling some Lojban indicators [1] into my emails. They represent expressions like "yay!", ";)", or "IMO", but Lojban has many more of them than English. I will gloss most of them, and guarantee that I will gloss anything that substantially changes the meaning of a sentence. This isn't an attempt to do an experiment from the perspective of rules or formal actions (I don't expect to do anything that causes a CFJ). Instead, I'm just going to start using some useful expressions and see if any of them become part of standard Agoran. Of course, I would encourage other interested parties to try doing the same thing. Does anyone have any objections to this proposal? [1] https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-chapter-chunks/chapter-attitudinals.html -Aris
