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On 2021-06-26 11:07, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 12:31:47PM +1000, Telna via agora-official wrote: LAST WEEK IN AGORA: 14-20 June 2021 Agoran Press Weekly Report Thanks, Telna. This is great! Glad you like it! Now I'm an Officer I don't think I'll be continuing it for the time being, so I won't be as stringent on amendments etc either if you'd like to get that figured out.
DIS: Re: OFF: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 12:31:47PM +1000, Telna via agora-official wrote: > LAST WEEK IN AGORA: 14-20 June 2021 > Agoran Press Weekly Report Thanks, Telna. This is great! -- Falsifian
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On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 02:25:42AM +, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 04:21:23PM -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-official > wrote: > > Not yet archived at > > https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries > > but presumably Falsifian will take care of that, somehow. > > Done. > > I'm thinking of adding the author to the top of each report. I think it > will be nice to know, especially when people have different styles. Any > objections? (The information is available regardless, in the git > history and in the mailing list archives.) Done: https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/commit/57292642ad7d73ef7d4d883ae6167f426a806783 (I think there are only two so far that I didn't write, so I just blindly added "Author: Falsifian" to the rest. Let me know if I got any wrong.) -- Falsifian
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On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 04:21:23PM -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-official wrote: > Not yet archived at > https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries > but presumably Falsifian will take care of that, somehow. Done. I'm thinking of adding the author to the top of each report. I think it will be nice to know, especially when people have different styles. Any objections? (The information is available regardless, in the git history and in the mailing list archives.) > # Summary > > The stones are coming. > The darkness is going. > The factors are increasing. > The zombies are crumbling. > The labels are changing. > The karma is cycling. Thanks; I like it! -- Falsifian
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On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:10:43PM -0500, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > On 11/16/2020 3:19 PM, Lucidiot via agora-official wrote: > > Archived at > > https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries > > > > Below is the report for the week of 2020-11-09..15: > > > > > > # Summary > > > > Welcome Shy Owl, for real this time! > > > > This week starts in silence, enough to make some wonder if the lists are > > working. A burst of activity happened with the first stone auction and > > bugfixes on stone rules. Some ratified mistakes get fixed and Falsifian > > finally gets some coworkers at the Agoran Press. Meanwhile, > > > > # Voting > > > > * Voting concludes on Proposal 8522 (cleanup of Rule 2531). > > > > * Voting begins on Proposal 8523, a fix for the Concentration Stone in > > Rule 2645 (see "Stones" below). > > > > # New players > > > > * Shy Owl registers. Thread: "Intention to Register" > > > > # Stones > > > > * The Stonemason initiates the first stone auction. Thread: > > "[Stonemason] Throwing Stones" > > > > * Aris, nix and Jason submit and pend a proposal to fix Rule 2645, as a > > player with an Economy Focus and a Concentration Stone could earn over > > 700 coins in a month. Aris, as Promotor, distributes it immediately. > > Thread: "[Proposal] Emergency Economy Unbreaking" > > > > * nix submits a proposal to tidy up Rule 2643 and prevent stealing > > stones from Agora using the Soul Stone. Thread: "[Proposal] Agora's > > Stones Are Immune" > > > > # Rule questions > > > > * Does a "SHALL" in an auction regulation constitute a pledge? CFJ 3888 > > gets assigned to nix. > > > > * Is the Webmastor an office? Jason judges CFJ 3889 TRUE after noticing > > a mistake was made when applying Proposal 8388. Threads: "CFJ", > > "[Arbitor] CFJ 3889 Assigned to Jason [attn. Notary]" > > > > # Meta > > > > * lucidiot and Murphy join the Agoran Press, and Murphy unsuccessfully > > attempts to take next week's assignment. Thread: "@Treasuror [Agoran > > Press Editor] Payroll and Salary Claim" > > > > * The Agoran Press follows the inflation updates and switches to > > boatloads of coins. Thread: "@Notary [Agoran Press] Giving myself a raise" > > > > # Miscellaneous > > > > * Jason transfers the talismans of Tyler, Zyborg, Fred and Shelvacu to > > Agora, then announces intent to deregister em. Threads: "Zombification > > [attn. Shelvacu]", "[Registrar] Expedited export" > > > > * nix ratifies without objection that e owns three pendants missing from > > the Treasuror's reports. Thread: "@Treasuror RWO Asset Recovery" > > > > * Murphy announces intent to award the Patent Title of Hard Labor to > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus for eir work as Referee, Tailor and > > Herald. Thread: "Intent to award Patent Title [attn Herald]" > > > > I didn't even notice that this wasn't done by Falsifian until today. > Well done! > > -- > ATMunn > friendly neighborhood notary and Prime Minister of Agora :) Yes, great job acclimatising so quickly to our quirks and unique culture. -- Falsifian
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On 11/16/2020 3:19 PM, Lucidiot via agora-official wrote: Archived at https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries Below is the report for the week of 2020-11-09..15: # Summary Welcome Shy Owl, for real this time! This week starts in silence, enough to make some wonder if the lists are working. A burst of activity happened with the first stone auction and bugfixes on stone rules. Some ratified mistakes get fixed and Falsifian finally gets some coworkers at the Agoran Press. Meanwhile, # Voting * Voting concludes on Proposal 8522 (cleanup of Rule 2531). * Voting begins on Proposal 8523, a fix for the Concentration Stone in Rule 2645 (see "Stones" below). # New players * Shy Owl registers. Thread: "Intention to Register" # Stones * The Stonemason initiates the first stone auction. Thread: "[Stonemason] Throwing Stones" * Aris, nix and Jason submit and pend a proposal to fix Rule 2645, as a player with an Economy Focus and a Concentration Stone could earn over 700 coins in a month. Aris, as Promotor, distributes it immediately. Thread: "[Proposal] Emergency Economy Unbreaking" * nix submits a proposal to tidy up Rule 2643 and prevent stealing stones from Agora using the Soul Stone. Thread: "[Proposal] Agora's Stones Are Immune" # Rule questions * Does a "SHALL" in an auction regulation constitute a pledge? CFJ 3888 gets assigned to nix. * Is the Webmastor an office? Jason judges CFJ 3889 TRUE after noticing a mistake was made when applying Proposal 8388. Threads: "CFJ", "[Arbitor] CFJ 3889 Assigned to Jason [attn. Notary]" # Meta * lucidiot and Murphy join the Agoran Press, and Murphy unsuccessfully attempts to take next week's assignment. Thread: "@Treasuror [Agoran Press Editor] Payroll and Salary Claim" * The Agoran Press follows the inflation updates and switches to boatloads of coins. Thread: "@Notary [Agoran Press] Giving myself a raise" # Miscellaneous * Jason transfers the talismans of Tyler, Zyborg, Fred and Shelvacu to Agora, then announces intent to deregister em. Threads: "Zombification [attn. Shelvacu]", "[Registrar] Expedited export" * nix ratifies without objection that e owns three pendants missing from the Treasuror's reports. Thread: "@Treasuror RWO Asset Recovery" * Murphy announces intent to award the Patent Title of Hard Labor to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus for eir work as Referee, Tailor and Herald. Thread: "Intent to award Patent Title [attn Herald]" I didn't even notice that this wasn't done by Falsifian until today. Well done! -- ATMunn friendly neighborhood notary and Prime Minister of Agora :)
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On 10/26/2020 7:28 PM, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 07:20:15PM -0400, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: On 10/26/2020 7:01 PM, Falsifian via agora-official wrote: * Murphy sets up a reverse auction using a promise. Thread: "Reverse auction (attn Notary)" Can you link to this in the archive? I don't seem to have received this email. https://listserver.tue.nl/pipermail/agora/2020-October/000551.html Huh. I'm pretty sure I recall seeing this (maybe it was discussed on Discord or something?), but a search for "reverse auction" in my mail client comes up with no results. I either didn't receive this email, or I deleted it somehow. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- ATMunn friendly neighborhood notary and Prime Minister of Agora :)
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On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 07:20:15PM -0400, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > On 10/26/2020 7:01 PM, Falsifian via agora-official wrote: > > * Murphy sets up a reverse auction using a promise. Thread: "Reverse > >auction (attn Notary)" > > Can you link to this in the archive? I don't seem to have received this > email. https://listserver.tue.nl/pipermail/agora/2020-October/000551.html -- Falsifian
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On 10/26/2020 7:01 PM, Falsifian via agora-official wrote: * Murphy sets up a reverse auction using a promise. Thread: "Reverse auction (attn Notary)" Can you link to this in the archive? I don't seem to have received this email. -- ATMunn friendly neighborhood notary and Prime Minister of Agora :)
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On 2020-08-23 11:54, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: On 8/22/20 11:28 PM, Falsifian via agora-official wrote: Archived at https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries Below is the report for the week of 2020-08-10..16. # Summary Welcome, Nathan! Get paid to write a weekly summary! The Agoran Press now exists, and seeks Reportors to share in the telling of our glorious never-ending story. Join the contract, claim the Weekly Assignment, and get 5 Coins for summarizing a week. (The contract became publicly funded on April 21, technically outside the time range covered by this document.) Minor issue: I don't think that was in April. Thanks. Fixed in the archive. -- Falsifian
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On 8/22/20 11:28 PM, Falsifian via agora-official wrote: > Archived at > https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries > > Below is the report for the week of 2020-08-10..16. > > > # Summary > > Welcome, Nathan! > > Get paid to write a weekly summary! The Agoran Press now exists, and > seeks Reportors to share in the telling of our glorious never-ending > story. Join the contract, claim the Weekly Assignment, and get 5 Coins > for summarizing a week. (The contract became publicly funded on April > 21, technically outside the time range covered by this document.) Minor issue: I don't think that was in April. > > This week, a healthy batch of rule-changes was adopted, including the > gamification of Finger-Pointing. Agorans, don't let crime go unpunished > --- a missed punishment is a missed opportunity! > > Agorans love changing the rules, making contracts, moving assets around, > and that sort of thing. But one proposal adopted this week gives some > privileged players a new power to to do only things that are outside of > that list of run-of-the-mill things. Our first Rulebender, G., > demonstrates the first "Rulebending Form", which gives names to the five > Eastman weeks of each month. > > Some of this week's proposals seemed like minor refactors or fixes, but > were they? Murphy's "simpler ribbon switches" turns out to also get em a > Transparent Ribbon. > > Voting began on a pair of modest new proposals this week, and there is > some discussion of changing the way glitter works. > > CFJ 3873 is judged TRUE: it was Shelvacu's birthday on the day e > registered. Agorans continue to stir things with new experiments, > including a self-styled "Annoying Experiment" by Gaelan. > > This week, ATMunn became our new speaker, and Birthday Tournament > participants were awarded the Badge of Diplonomic. > > > # Players old and new > > * New player Nathan joins Agora. > > * Bayushi makes an appearance in the thread "Somewhat Annoying Experiment". > > > # Voting > > * The decisions on adopting Proposals 8478-8487 are resolved. > > * Only 8481 is rejected. It would have made non-pending Proposals > disappear instead of having the Promotor track them. The Promotor > felt it wasn't needed. > > * Adopted: > > * Make Finger-Pointing competitive. (8479) > > * Make the rewards higher for more "complex" offices. (8482) > > * Apply the effects of "THE MYSTERY DOCUMENT", published last week > by G., which it turns enacts a new rule allowing certain players > to publish "Rulebending Forms" (8483) > > * Clarify Rule 2576, about asset ownership. (In the past, there's been > confusion about whether assets are destroyed or go to the Lost and > Found department, when their owner deregisters, for example.) (8484) > > * Make it so a person never ceases to be a person. (For one thing, > this means that keeping correct records doesn't require knowing who > is still alive.) (8485) > > * Simplify how Ribbon ownership is defined. But also, it turns out, > make people eligible for Transparent Ribbons. (8487) > > * Various fixes. (8478, 8480, 8486) > > * Voting begins on Proposals 8488 and 8489: > > * Proposal 8488 is another tweak related to the fee-based action > rules. > > * Proposal 8489 adds a new mechanic to the officer card-granting > rules. > > > # Scams, rule questions, etc. > > * Can a Rulebending Form escape its limitations by explicitly taking > precedence over the rule that limits it? ais523 calls CFJ 3874 in the > thread "Resolution of Proposals 8478-8487". > > * Can a player be granted birthday gifts on the same day they register? > Yes. (CFJ 3873) > > * Trigon is annoyed because others agreed this wasn't a problem when e > came up with the original wording. Thread: "Forbes 485" > > * G. points out a zombie owner can bid in a zombie auction. Before a > recent auction overhaul, this was prohibited. Thread: "August zombie > auction" > > * G. publishes the first "Rulebending Form", which gives names to the > five Eastman weeks of each month. Thread: "The First Form" > > * Are hard-to-compute contract provisions effective? Gaelan tries an > experiment in the thread "Somewhat Annoying Experiment", calling CFJ > 3875. > > * Can multiple persons in the same body receive ribbons? ATMunn calls > CFJs in the thread "[Diplonomic 2020] BT3 Intent to Announce Winners, > Badge, and Clean-up". > > * When an officer's report includes a caveat, does the indicated > information still self-ratify if it's not separately CoE-ed? Thread: > "[Treasuror] [Weekly Report] Forbes 486" > > * Jason sends a message to the backup list that at first seems like it > might be an objection to an intent to Declare Apathy that nobody saw. > But it looks like e just manually added "Re:" to the start of the > subject line. Thread: "Re: BAK: Apathy Intent" > > * After
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On 2020-07-12 3:43 p.m., Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: Falsifian wrote: Our new economy chugged along this week, despite the looming threat of a reset caused by the scam. A card-pooling lottery concluded and a new trading system opened, both handled by contracts subsidiary to the Dragon Corporation. Discussion this week included the impact of resets (prepare or give up?) and a possible increase in the monthly card supply through auctions. The Plundership completed its raid of the Lost and Found Department; a share of it goes to everyone who bothered to sign up (except Murphy, who ran afoul of the contract's terms but has graciously allowed its operation to continue by not objecting to the transfer). Quasi-CoE: IIRC I never attempted to join, I was just pre-emptively prevented from doing so due to objecting to an earlier attempt. Good point. I rephrased the online/archived copy a bit: https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/commit/8ca23b1d5147f46b002168e490ef96fc69971370 -- Falsifian
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Falsifian wrote: Our new economy chugged along this week, despite the looming threat of a reset caused by the scam. A card-pooling lottery concluded and a new trading system opened, both handled by contracts subsidiary to the Dragon Corporation. Discussion this week included the impact of resets (prepare or give up?) and a possible increase in the monthly card supply through auctions. The Plundership completed its raid of the Lost and Found Department; a share of it goes to everyone who bothered to sign up (except Murphy, who ran afoul of the contract's terms but has graciously allowed its operation to continue by not objecting to the transfer). Quasi-CoE: IIRC I never attempted to join, I was just pre-emptively prevented from doing so due to objecting to an earlier attempt.
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On 7/12/2020 1:31 AM, Falsifian via agora-official wrote: Agorans' contract fun continues to keep our Notary busy, but not too busy to announce some new (informal) Contract Awards. Let's hope this becomes a tradition. I intend on it becoming so, I just haven't had much time with Diplonomic starting. I plan on making an official contract for it. Should be happening soon. -- ATMunn friendly neighborhood russian notary here :)
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I really appreciate the inclusion of the "exile scam" section. Thanks as always for the excellent report! On 7/5/2020 7:23 PM, Falsifian via agora-official wrote: Archived at https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reportor/tree/master/weekly_summaries Previous reports were sent to the discussion list. Below is the report for the week of 2020-06-22..28. (Note: that's the week before the week that's currently ending. Sorry for the lag!) # Summary A new scam attempt captured Agora's attention this week. See "Exile scam" below for our minute-by-minute coverage of the scam, including five distinct efforts to interfere with it (including an unbelievably swift officer response and some creative counter-scamming), and its eventual apparent demise. And stay tuned for next next week's report --- it wasn't quite as dead as we thought. Scams and rule tests on a smaller scale happen just about every week in Agora. This week also saw an anonymous voter cause confusion, mysterious and still unexplained behaviour on the backup list, clever new Apathy attempts, email signature mischief, meep meep usual variety meep meep meep questions meep rules. Our new economy chugged along this week, despite the looming threat of a reset caused by the scam. A card-pooling lottery concluded and a new trading system opened, both handled by contracts subsidiary to the Dragon Corporation. Discussion this week included the impact of resets (prepare or give up?) and a possible increase in the monthly card supply through auctions. The Plundership completed its raid of the Lost and Found Department; a share of it goes to everyone who bothered to sign up (except Murphy, who ran afoul of the contract's terms but has graciously allowed its operation to continue by not objecting to the transfer). Agorans are at work planning and building our future. There was earnest discussion about channels for live communication, and their potential to facilitate easier discussion, especially for new players who tend to be overwhelmed by the volume of email-based activity and discussion. Our Webmastor is actively improving the website, and more reports are becoming available conveniently through the web. Plenty of proposals this week on improving (or at least changing up) our rules and regulations, including more use of the "bodies of law" framework; auction regulations to go with the new auction rule text; re-introducing a crime-infraction distinction; publicly-funded contracts; and proposals for replacing (or just repealing) our mechanism for submitting proposals for free. And our Herald has formally announced intent to begin this year's Birthday Tournament, which is planned to be a game of Diplonomic. This week the Rulekeepor honoured G. with the title of Tapecutter, and our new ADoP, R. Lee, was democratically confirmed. # Exile scam nch and R. Lee begin an attempted scam: to have a player repeatedly exiled and then re-registered, collecting welcome packages in between. Since exiling must be done with 7 days notice, they are forced to give a hint about their plans ahead of time by announcing a deregistration intent. This starts a race to patch the bug before they can exploit it --- the voting period for a proposal is also 7 days. Note: there is a good overview of some of the technical aspects in Jason's email starting the thread "Statement from the Opposition", and another note from nch with the subject "Scam Wrap-Up" near the end of the week about how it apparently failed. (However, the scam unexpectedly continued next week.) Timeline (UTC): * 2020-06-23 02:37: nch announces intent 36 times to deregister R. Lee, starting the clock. Thread: "Perfectly Normal Gameplay Nothing to See Move Along." * 2020-06-23 02:38: Aris submits a proposal to patch the bug. Thread: "[Proposal] Welcome Package Patch" * 2020-06-23 02:39: The Treasuror certifies the proposal. Thread: "certifying" This leads to a Finger Pointing and debate about whether it met the conditions for certification, and a CFJ (not yet assigned an ID). * 2020-06-23 02:40: The Promotor (again Aris) distributes it as Proposal 8458, starting a second 7-day interval. Depending on how quickly the Assessor acts 7 days from now, and how voting for the proposal goes, the scammers may have a window as short as three minutes long between when R. Lee can be exiled and when the proposal can be adopted. * 2020-06-23 02:46: nch announces intent 20 more times to deregister R. Lee. Thread: "Perfectly Normal Gameplay Nothing to See Move Along." * 2020-06-23 02:51: Jason begins a motion of no confidence, to remove nch from the office of Prime Minister. Thread: "MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE" Prime Minister nch is one of the scammers. There's a lot of discussion in this thread, including how the office could help nch with the scam, a suggestion that Jason is trying to seize Prime Minister and Speaker, and pledges from both to not take certain actions as
