Re: DIS: Re: BUS: An old flame

2013-04-10 Thread Kerim Aydin


On Wed, 10 Apr 2013, omd wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca 
 wrote:
  Proposal: New Beginnings (AI=3)
 
 Generally, I was going to respond negatively, criticizing the extra
 complexity introduced when the latest batch of changes might finally
 produce a solid basis for gameplay (unlike several past attempts that
 are still in the ruleset or were just repealed), but I think this
 might be manageable.  However, I think this proposal ought to repeal
 some of the other rules we have for defining random things as persons
 before lumping on new ones.

I am personally with Wes on this in that we need a clean sweep of personhood
(raise the personhood definition security to 3 in rule 2150, state
right out only first-class persons can be players, then delete all
reference to classes of players).

I think, quite frankly, that all this personhood crap has been one of
the drags on the game as it is overly complex to no purpose, and getting
rid of it, rather than re-complicating it, would be better for activity.

-G.





Re: DIS: Re: BUS: An old flame

2013-04-10 Thread Sean Hunt
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
 I am personally with Wes on this in that we need a clean sweep of personhood
 (raise the personhood definition security to 3 in rule 2150, state
 right out only first-class persons can be players, then delete all
 reference to classes of players).

 I think, quite frankly, that all this personhood crap has been one of
 the drags on the game as it is overly complex to no purpose, and getting
 rid of it, rather than re-complicating it, would be better for activity.

 -G.

It is not a critical component of my proposal that Titles be persons;
it could be rewritten (before or after adoption) to instead just grant
an increased voting limit based on holding a Title. (i.e. holding a
Title gives you +2 VVLOP)

-scshunt


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: An old flame

2013-04-10 Thread Kerim Aydin


On Wed, 10 Apr 2013, Sean Hunt wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
  I am personally with Wes on this in that we need a clean sweep of personhood
  (raise the personhood definition security to 3 in rule 2150, state
  right out only first-class persons can be players, then delete all
  reference to classes of players).
 
  I think, quite frankly, that all this personhood crap has been one of
  the drags on the game as it is overly complex to no purpose, and getting
  rid of it, rather than re-complicating it, would be better for activity.
 
  -G.
 
 It is not a critical component of my proposal that Titles be persons;
 it could be rewritten (before or after adoption) to instead just grant
 an increased voting limit based on holding a Title. (i.e. holding a
 Title gives you +2 VVLOP)

Sounds good; barring any minor bugs I haven't had a chance to delve for, 
the general idea of the gameplay, outside of the personhood complications, 
looks good.  -G.