Re: [Ai] help require to get credit card

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

you can get credit card on thumb impression in punjab national bank. wherein 
there is a provision of thumb ipression of visually impaired on its 
application form.


-Original Message- 
From: Rahul Bhatia via Ai

Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 10:25 AM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Rahul Bhatia
Subject: Re: [Ai] help require to get credit card

Totaly agree with Ajay Minocha sir,
I am a customer of HDFC bank when i joined TCS i opened my salary
account over there and they are aware with my disability that time
only they gave me cheque book, debit card, fiew months back i applied
for credit card online only and without any problem i got creditcard
with in a week. though i use to signature,
there are signature guide available to make our signature perfect .



On 10/30/17, Ajay Minocha via Ai  wrote:

Hi,

I time and again urge my visually impaired friends to learn a basic
form of signature. Though thumb impression is a facility which must be
extended to everyone yet we should have a wayout from the present
situation.

I use two of them i.e. Citi and HDFC and both of them are well aware
of my blindness. All they are concerned about my ability to pay them
on time. Your blindness doesn't come into picture anywhere.

Cheers,
Ajay

On 30/10/2017, Arjun Malhotra via Ai 
wrote:

I guess banking fesility circular extends even to credit cards. I have
ICICI bank credit card. I have informed bank about my disability
however I signed the documents.

On 10/30/17, Mohib Anwar Rafay via Ai
 wrote:

In this regard, isn't there any RBI circular to the effect that credit
card can not be denied to visually impaired person? If it is there, it
must be shown to credit card issuing authorities.
I have 3 credit cards from SBI and HDFC banks, I haven't face any
issue with either of them, as they don't know I am visually impaired
person.

On 10/30/17, Yogesh J via Ai  wrote:

so sad. I applied credit card just for EMI and availle discounts. but
after our listening our friends inputs its  I think its very dificult
to get credit card.
but I never give up. sure I'll try for it just to prove blind are
eligible for credit card.

On 10/29/17, Sasidhar Babu via Ai 
wrote:

 hi all  yes  SBI  cards pvt ltd  has  not processing  applications
with thumb.  many  credit card  agents of  SBI cards  are not
accepting  applications from  visually challenged. I also  applied
for sbi   credit card.  they have  declined my credit  card
application.  I aasked  for reason  they are  saying  that  currently
we are unable  to issue  credit card for you.   it  is  very  bad
that   SBI cards PVT ltd  a subsediary  of SBI  is  not  approving and
 issuing  credit cards  with thumb   for  prospective  visually
impaired  customers. when  I speak about   this  with a agent  of  SBI
card  he said  that you can  apply  with others  sign  but   don't
 say that  you are  blind  when  you received  verification  call.
thenone  agent  has  taken  application  from  me  that is  not
processed  because of  higher authority of  that agent  has rejected.
however  one agent  has  send  my application  with  thumb  she got
scoldings  from their  higher  authorities. finally  they have
declined  my application  without  saying  any valid  reason. I had
very  bad experience  with SBI cards PVTLTD.  then   I stopped  trying
for credit card with other  companys.  please  suggest me   is  there
anybuddy  got credit card  with thumb.   I don't  use  credit  cards
much   but  I need  credit  card  for  a financial  status and  to
avail  certain  discounts.  and  I may  use them  in emergency
situations.

On 29/10/2017, sheik mohammedali via Ai
 wrote:

Sorry international transactions I meant

Sent from my iPhone


On 29-Oct-2017, at 8:10 AM, Chirag Mittal via Ai
 wrote:

Dear Yogesh,
I strictly advise u to drop idea of purchasing credit card because
God
has send we guys to spread the message of love and happiness in
world.
We have to show the world that despite being  of so much
difficulties,
when we can live life with comfort,dignity and with happiness why
can't you. Credit card will trap you in debt trap and you will not
be
in position to avail services of assistant and develop habit of
misery
on essential things that are require specially for we guys. So,
please
instead of taking credit card, save money , spend it in prudent way.


 On 10/28/17, Yogesh J via Ai 
wrote:
hai friends.
I am yogesh from tamilnadu.
last month I applied sbi credit card.
they were completed all process and I got 3 verification calls.
but finaly my aplication was rejected.
in my side everything is fine.
I put thump impression in all documents like pan aadhar.so I put it
in
my credit card aplication also.

Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Re: [DKIM Failure] Re: [DKIM Failure] Re: Fraudulent Transactions on Credit Card

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

Sir, please let us get rid of: this subject line.
Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Re: [DKIM Failure] Re: [DKIM Failure] Re:


-Original Message- 
From: Asudani, Rajesh via Ai

Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:11 AM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Asudani, Rajesh
Subject: Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Re: [DKIM Failure] Re: [DKIM Failure] Re: 
Fraudulent Transactions on Credit Card


Simple logic is if Indian payment system is paying money to someone, they 
should follow procedures of Indian payment systems.



-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Kotian, H P via Ai

Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 2:45 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Kotian, H P
Subject: [DKIM Failure] Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Re: [DKIM Failure] Re: 
Fraudulent Transactions on Credit Card


Hi

2 Factor authorization is insisted by RBI to ensure extra layer of safety. 
It is not there overseas. I don't think mediocre minds can think of it. I 
wonder how much more fraudulent transaction would have happened otherwise.
 RBI does not have jurisdiction over Foreign entities, that is why it does 
not apply to them.

Harish.

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh via Ai

Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 2:17 PM
To: Share, empower  
Cc: Asudani, Rajesh 
Subject: [DKIM Failure] Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Re: Fraudulent Transactions 
on Credit Card


RBI also says they are not under our perview.
Actually, RBI has mostly mediocre people who decide policy. they, as a rule, 
don't have on-the-ground understanding of things.


If payment systems in India have integrated feature of OTP for CNP 
transactions, it should be followed whoever the receiver is.


When I had proposed a pin for credit cards, which is now there, way back in 
2006, I was ridiculed.



-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
gajendra vyas via Ai

Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 1:08 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: gajendra vyas
Subject: [DKIM Failure] Re: [Ai] Fraudulent Transactions on Credit Card

it is done only with foreign companies , because foreign companies are 
allowed to receive money without o t p onetime password. i don't understand 
why government and r b i allow them to do so . once i mailed to r b i , i 
was told that they foreign companies are reliable .

only foreign companies can get money without otp . why so?
gajendra vyas
phone : 079-48000204
mobile : 9427065866
- Original Message -
From: "rajinder Sehgal via Ai" 
To: "Share, empower " 
Cc: "rajinder Sehgal" 
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Fraudulent Transactions on Credit Card



very sad. i am also using credit card.
sir can you tell that are you transacting with your card with OTP or
3d sicure pin?
if with OTP then are you using third party OTP reading app?
sorry sir if i asked something wrong, but it it may help full for all
credit card users spessialy v.h.
thanks.

On 10/23/17, Vikas Kapoor via Ai 
wrote:

Folks, yesterday morning, when I got up early in the morning, I was
jolted to have seen as many as 8 messages in my text message inbox
regarding multiple transactions having taken place using my credit
card totaling nearly to Rs.35000 in smaller transactions. Most of
them appeared to have taken place on netflix.com and on some other
malls based in the United States. All such transactions happened
within a span of just 2 minutes.
Upon
registering a complaint by sending a detailed mail to the head office
of Corporation Bank at Mangalore, they replied back that although the
transactions have taken place, the money under those transactions
have not yet been claimed by the merchants. If the money is not
claimed by the merchants in the next 30 days, it would automatically
be nullified.
However,
they said that they cannot raise any claim of chargeback unless the
money has been claimed. Since there are lots of bankers on this list,
I just would like to know the implications of those  transactions
that have taken place. My contention is that when I've already
brought this to their notice, shouldn't it be the duty of the staff
to initiate the actions on their part? Why are they waiting for the
merchants first to claim the money and once the merchants claimed,
what is going to be the end result of this?
Thanks.
Vikas Kapoor,
Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
Skype Id: dl_vikas
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Re: [Ai] Fraudulent Transactions on Credit Card

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

here in pnb credit card, customer receive OTP while transacting. RBI have 
already restricted international transactions in credit cards, until a 
customer give a specific request for it. better is to choose the credit card 
with OTP compliance.



-Original Message- 
From: SKYLINER via Ai

Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 4:10 PM
To: ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in
Cc: SKYLINER
Subject: Re: [Ai] Fraudulent Transactions on Credit Card

Yes Vikas, definitely it is harrowing time for the card holder as long as 
the enquiry proceeds in the matter.
April last I was woken up by credit card watchers at 12.30 midnight stating 
there were a no. of fraudulent transactions in my card totalling around 3 
lakh rs; 'whether I was doing the transactions' they pertly asked.  As I 
said'no', they simply asked to logde a complaint in the moring.  As I took 
it up with customer team, SBI they said the same thing what you were told, 
they could do nothing to stop the transactions, even if happens in the last 
night.
Until very recently I have been exchanging various mails on the subject 
until they, upon completion of all formalities, they declared all 
transactions fake & fraudulent restoring my credit limit & abslovling all 
charges.  But definitely it was very harassing when they initially until 
enquiry completion debited all transactions to my account billing huge sum 
every month & myself pursuing them for reversals, etc.
Nearly similar thing happened in August last with Citybank card but their 
system was foolproof & despite 10-15 fake attempts, money could not be 
debited from my CC account.
Hopefully you will win ultimately, however, you are always on wining doubt 
margin & they may have lot of mails, etc. to you until completion, in case 
they start the proceedings, if money is debited to your account.


(Dinanath)

On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:37:11 +0530 Vikas Kapoor via Ai  wrote
Folks, yesterday morning, when I got up early in the morning, I was jolted 
to have seen as many as 8 messages in my text message inbox regarding 
multiple transactions having taken place using my credit card totaling 
nearly to Rs.35000 in smaller transactions. Most of them appeared to have 
taken place on netflix.com and on some other malls based in the United 
States. All such transactions happened within a span of just 2 minutes. 
Upon registering a complaint by sending a detailed mail to the head office 
of Corporation Bank at Mangalore, they replied back that although the 
transactions have taken place, the money under those transactions have not 
yet been claimed by the merchants. If the money is not claimed by the 
merchants in the next 30 days, it would automatically be nullified. 
However, they said that they cannot raise any claim of chargeback unless 
the money has been claimed. Since there are lots of bankers on this list, I 
just would like to know the implications of those



transactions that have taken place. My contention is that when I've already 
brought this to their notice, shouldn't it be the duty of the staff to 
initiate the actions on their part? Why are they waiting for the merchants 
first to claim the money and once the merchants claimed, what is going to be 
the end result of this?


Thanks.

Vikas Kapoor,

Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994

Skype Id: dl_vikas

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Re: [Ai] Fraudulent Transactions on Credit Card

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

your bank may have a ciber crime cell. you can contact them.


-Original Message- 
From: Vikas Kapoor via Ai

Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 3:35 PM
To: Access India
Cc: Vikas Kapoor
Subject: [Ai] Fraudulent Transactions on Credit Card

Folks, yesterday morning, when I got up early in the morning, I was jolted 
to have seen as many as 8 messages in my text message inbox regarding 
multiple transactions having taken place using my credit card totaling 
nearly to Rs.35000 in smaller transactions. Most of them appeared to have 
taken place on netflix.com and on some other malls based in the United 
States. All such transactions happened within a span of just 2 minutes. Upon 
registering a complaint by sending a detailed mail to the head office of 
Corporation Bank at Mangalore, they replied back that although the 
transactions have taken place, the money under those transactions have not 
yet been claimed by the merchants. If the money is not claimed by the 
merchants in the next 30 days, it would automatically be nullified. However, 
they said that they cannot raise any claim of chargeback unless the money 
has been claimed. Since there are lots of bankers on this list, I just would 
like to know the implications of those
transactions that have taken place. My contention is that when I've already 
brought this to their notice, shouldn't it be the duty of the staff to 
initiate the actions on their part? Why are they waiting for the merchants 
first to claim the money and once the merchants claimed, what is going to be 
the end result of this?

Thanks.
Vikas Kapoor,
Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
Skype Id: dl_vikas
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Re: [Ai] Query regarding home loan for visually impaired

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

it is NHFDC providing concession, not a bank. NHFDC is specially framed to 
provide financial assistance for housing development projects. he may 
contact to NHFDC and NHFDC will land him through its nodal bank. NHB, NHFDC, 
HUDCO provide finance through their nodal banks.




-Original Message- 
From: Mohib Anwar Rafay via Ai

Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 11:51 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Mohib Anwar Rafay
Subject: Re: [Ai] Query regarding home loan for visually impaired

I heard NHFDC provide loan on consessional rates. and to my view, a
person shouldn't be denied of any consessional rate facility simply on
the ground that he has the eligibility to claim RS. 50 lakh loan!

On 10/22/17, Aravind R via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote:

PMAY is the only option provided it is his first home and his wife if
married and carpet area of that house is below 90 SQM. i don't think
there is any concession and there is RBI circular not to deny loan to
us based on our disability. moreover, people who has eligibility of
getting 50 lakhs loan cannot get any additional concession as
concessions are ment for  poor who can't afford basic home i suppose.

On 10/22/17, Mohib Anwar Rafay via Ai
<ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote:

He is looking this 50 lakh rupees loan for a longer duration, for
instance 20 years or so. So that a fixed EMI would be deducted from
his monthly salary.

On 10/22/17, bhawani shankar verma via Ai
<ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote:

the rate of interest have already gone lower around 8.5%. what
concession
do

your friend require. he can apply under Pradhan mantri avas yojna. but,
this

scheme have many restrictions and limitations in it.


-Original Message-
From: Mohib Anwar Rafay via Ai
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 11:29 AM
To: ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in
Cc: Mohib Anwar Rafay
Subject: [Ai] Query regarding home loan for visually impaired

Hi all, one of my friends working as central government employee want
to purchase a home. he wants to apply for the loan , therefore I
thought I will put this query here to ask whether is there any agency
or organization which provides loan facility on concessional rates to
visually impaired person? If yes kindly let me know the name of the
agency. The amount sought on lone is approximately 50 lakh rupees.

--
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Re: [Ai] After accessible currency campaign, can I request for accessible ecommerce campaign?

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

also the payment gateways are introducing CAPTCHA or inaccessible webpage in 
which you can't type OTP or PIN etc.



-Original Message- 
From: gufran ahmed via Ai

Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 12:17 PM
To: ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in
Cc: gufran ahmed
Subject: [Ai] After accessible currency campaign, can I request for 
accessible ecommerce campaign?


Dear all, these days the Ecommerce and Mcommerce are playing major
role in everyones lifes. From smart phones to home appliances, grocery
to personal care and wellness needs, we hop into major ecommerce sites
for best deals. Some of them are accessible, some are manageable.
Amazon and flipcart are most relible and most accessible to us. But
does are problem ends here?
We all are able to place the order without any glitch, but as far as
online payment concern, we have a little bit hesitation weather the
delivery boy will handover our consignment to us if we are not able to
sign. Therefore we often prefer COD instead of digital payment. Some
of us may prefer digital payment because we live with our family who
are sighted. But those couple where both person is visually impaired,
and living alone. I think they even have to think twice to take
advanteges of discounts offered by the banks/shopping site for using
digital payment.
Not only this, if we want to order wellness needs which is personal in
nature, we can’t order from shopping sites as it require signature to
receive the consignment. Although it depends on delivery boys, I have
experience that delivery boy handover the itoms to me after confirming
my details even I had payed for the goods.

friends, although the sites and apps are fairly accessible to us, but
we have to fight for full accessibility. In my view, as far as
accessibility of ecommerce is concerned, it doesn’t mean the ecommerce
sites are accessible if we successfully place our order. It should be
also accessible throughout the time of delivery of goods.
Friends, there could be some sollutions that iliminate the needs of 
signature.

1 the ecommerce company should  ask about our disability, and a unique
code can be generated and same can be communicate to consignee when
the shipment outs for delivery. the same has to be produce to delivery
boy at the time of delivery. As these days the delivery boys use tab
to capture signature of consignee.

2 QR code, these days the QR codes are miracle for payment industries.
various digital wallet players even govt of india asking the merchants
for using QR codes to accept payment. As it eliminates the needs
swiping the card at pos. so friends I think the same codes could be
use to receive our shipment.
The qr code are of 2 types, dynamic and static. Here the delivery boy
generate qr code in his tab, and we have to scan the same  using the
particualy ecommerce app.

friends, can I ask the learned menbers to think about it?
Can’t we demand the major ecommerce companies to amend the above
mentioned solution in there application?
Our pm is running digital india campaign, can’t we force  him to think about 
us?

Friends think of it, as these ecommerce companies giving various
offers to retain their customer base. But in our case, the ecommerce
is the need of the ours.
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Re: [Ai] Visually impaired writer starts publishing house for the blind.

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

my party is due sir, as my delhi trip is proposed shortly.


-Original Message- 
From: r k sarin via Ai

Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 3:13 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: r k sarin
Subject: Re: [Ai] Visually impaired writer starts publishing house for the 
blind.


Hi Shirine, thans you got this interview before even I can have it and
surprised me just to make some prompt response. If you will go through
between the lines, you will find that a presumption is made by the writer
that I am teaching only the blind students. For me, it is not at all an
issue but see the condition of this well read people. Thanks again.
- Original Message - 
From: "Shireen Irani via Ai" 

To: "Connect, share and enrich" ;
"disability-studies-india" 
Cc: "Shireen Irani" 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 12:07 AM
Subject: [Ai] Visually impaired writer starts publishing house for the
blind.



Congratulations Dr. R.K. Sareen!

| NEW DELHI | 14 October, 2017

The purpose of Raktim Publications is to publish more blind-friendly
literature and make such books accessible for students in the Mangal
font.

After a life of living in darkness, a visually impaired writer is
making it easier for blind people to access books in Hindi. Dr Ramesh
Kumar Sareen, a
lecturer by profession, is all set to launch his new book under the
banner of “Raktim Publications”, a publishing house that Sareen has
independently started
for visually impaired people.

The purpose of Raktim Publications is to publish more blind-friendly
literature and make such books accessible to students in the Mangal
font of Hindi
language. “I have observed an acute lack of blind publishers, though
there are blind people around who are willing to write. Publishing a
book is a tedious
task and is discouraging for blind people to get tailor-made books
published,” said Sareen.

Sareen said that visually impaired people have specific needs that
characterise blind-friendly books. For example, avoiding footnotes,
publishing books
in a font that can be read by various software that visually impaired
people use without having to scan the entire book, making e-texts
accessible and
transliterating books on various subjects in different languages.
Raktim Publications intends to include all such characteristics in its
Hindi books.

Sareen, a former employee at Indian Airlines, left his 13-year-old
career in the aviation industry to become a political science lecturer
at Satyavati
College, Delhi University, because he wanted to help eager blind
people to get the education they needed. “There was no job
satisfaction in aviation for
me. I was earning money and was able to get married and start a
family, but I was not able to contribute back to society the way I
wanted to. So I decided
to become a lecturer and stay close to the young crop and help
visually impaired students.” Sareen has done a PhD in political
science from Jawaharlal
Nehru University.

Talking about his new book, Sareen said, “This is my third book, but
the first one which will be published under the banner of Raktim
Publications. The
book is in Hindi and is blind-friendly, which means that the visually
impaired will not have to scan it to read it through software. There
will be e-text
available.”

Sareen’s new book in Hindi is titled Sam Samayik Bharat ki Vikas
Prakriya aur Samajik Andolan, which means “development process and
social movements in
contemporary India”. The book does an analysis of political
developments that took place between 1930 and 2014 in India. The
e-text of the book is in Mangal
font and will be available after 31 October. It can be ordered online
by dropping an email at
raktimprakas...@gmail.com

Sareen said, “I have not done any analysis of political developments
that took place 2014 onward because a lot has happened and we still
need to observe
the consequences over the years to come to a conclusion. Whether the
current changes prove good for us or bad will be known in future, no
point passing
hasty judgements.”

An atheist by self-confession, Sareen explained why he named his
publishing house “Raktim”. He said, “I have been heavily inspired by
works of Dr Bhisham
Sahni who has written a lot on communal subjects. Since the colour of
everybody’s blood is same irrespective of which God they believe in, I
chose to name
it Raktim.”

Emphasising on efficient implementation of government policies for the
visually impaired, Sareen said, “Things have become a lot easier now
because of
technology that helps us visually impaired people learn things which
we could not until a few years back. The government, too, has
increased facilities
for people like us; however, a major policy loophole is not including
partially blind people in the list of beneficiaries. Such people are
not able to
avail government schemes, nor are they able to study and work like
other people.”

Re: [Ai] not receiving emails from accessindia.

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

same here, but my messages are undelivered in accessindia.


-Original Message- 
From: Mahendragalani via Ai

Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:56 AM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Mahendragalani
Subject: Re: [Ai] not receiving emails from accessindia.



I am also facing the problem

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Re: [Ai] strange message from Outlook 2016 when opening links in mails

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

in chrome webvisum can not be installed. in my case jaws often lose focus 
and switches to pc cursor in chrome. could you please suggest settings.



-Original Message- 
From: Ajay Minocha via Ai

Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 4:56 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Ajay Minocha
Subject: Re: [Ai] strange message from Outlook 2016 when opening links in 
mails


Hi,

I would advise to switch to Chrome as it is very accessible and faster
than Firefox.

On 10/6/17, Sandeep Singh via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote:

Hi, I had a similar, in fact an even graver, problem a few days ago.
My firefox refused to work after an update stating that the software
was not compatible with my screen reader. It, however, prompted me to
shift to accessible firefox version which I did. Firefox is now
working fine, even better than before. Sorry, I am not able to tell
you how to download that version since I was automatically prompted by
the software to do that.
Best,
Sandeep

On 10/6/17, shankar shan via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> 
wrote:

hi sir,
do the following.
1st download the firefox version 47,.
uninstall the firefox from the programs and features on ctrl pannel.
then install the downloaded version 47 version on your lap/pc.
once installing the firefox, disable the updates by below method.
open the tools>options.
Select “Advanced“.
 Choose the “Update” tab.

select the radio button which says "Never check for updates"

from now, your firefox wont update automatically.



On 10/6/17, bhawani shankar verma via Ai
<ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote:

roll back to lower virsions like 38, 21 etc. higher versions of firefox
don't allow to modify its most of the default settings. you can direct
download older versions of firefox.


-Original Message-
From: P L VERMA via Ai
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 4:58 AM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: P L VERMA
Subject: Re: [Ai] strange message from Outlook 2016 when opening links 
in

mails

Hi Payal and Shankar,

after 3 days of version 47, fire fox did a high jack and automatically
upgraded to version 56 and i am back with the problems.
could someone help in guiding me as to how to stop this automatic update
business?
I am using windows 7.

- Original Message -
From: "Payal Kapoor via Ai" <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
To: "Share, empower " <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
Cc: "Payal Kapoor" <paya...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] strange message from Outlook 2016 when opening links 
in

mails



thanks for the detailed steps Shankar. I will try these out and see
where it takes me.
Payal

On 10/4/17, shankar shan via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
wrote:

its just the workaround.
1st make internet explorer as your default browser.
to do this on windows 10, do the following.
1. press windows key, you will see a search feeld.
2. type default app settings and press enter.
3. press tab untill jaws says "web brouser, firefox button.
4. press enter.
5.  from the choose an app list, select  internet explorer by pressing
tab
key.
6. once jaws says internet explorer, press enter.
7. now, your default browser will be internet explorer.


open any mail from outlook and try opening the hyperlink.

if you able to view the external links then you can skip the below
steps.

to restore the internet explore settings, do the following.
1. open the tools from the internet explorer.
2. go to options.
3. press ctrl tab untill the jaws says "advance page."
4.  press tab untill jaws says reset... button.
5. press enter.
6. if you saved any personal information, then, do not check the check
box which says delete personal information.
7.  tab to reset button and press enter.
8. restart the brouser and try opening the hyperlinks from the 
outlook.






On 10/4/17, Payal Kapoor via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
wrote:

I use Firefox as my default browser but have never done a restore
settings. could I request you to help me with how ii can do this?
thanks

On 10/4/17, shankar shan via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
wrote:

alright,  if your using your default browser as a firefox or,
internet
explorer, please try to restore it's settings and try accessing 
hiper

links from the outlook.

On 10/4/17, Payal Kapoor via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
wrote:

my outlook is configured only to my gmail account which has been
working for years now without any problem.
I have accessed mails and l links from all over, both official and
other external links with no issues until this one that I've
noticed
just this morning.
the only change I have made recently to my Win 10 laptop is
upgrading
to the latest version of JAWS  and Firefox.

On 10/4/17, shankar shan via Ai 
<ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>

wrote:

hi there,
as for as my concern, if you configured y

Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] RBI Policy: Good news for senior citizens, differently-abled as banks ordered to improve facilities

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

what is another way to communicate with banks.


From: Asudani, Rajesh via Ai 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 10:30 AM
To: Share, empower  
Cc: Asudani, Rajesh 
Subject: Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] RBI Policy: Good news for senior citizens, 
differently-abled as banks ordered to improve facilities

Paper tiger.

 

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Prashant Naik via Ai
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 10:09 AM
To: ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in
Cc: Prashant Naik
Subject: [DKIM Failure] [Ai] RBI Policy: Good news for senior citizens, 
differently-abled as banks ordered to improve facilities

 

  In a bid to improve banking facilities for senior citizens and 
differently-abled persons, the Reserve Bank has decided to instruct banks to 
put in place explicit mechanisms for meeting the needs of such persons so that 
they do not feel marginalised. In the monetary policy statement, the RBI said, 
“It has been reported that banks are discouraging or turning away senior 
citizens and differently-abled persons from availing banking facilities in 
branches. Notwithstanding the need to push digital transactions and use of 
ATMs, it is imperative to be sensitive to the requirements of senior citizens 
and differently-abled persons.

  It has, therefore, been decided to instruct banks to put in place explicit 
mechanisms for meeting the needs of such persons so that they do not feel 
marginalised. “Ombudsmen will also be advised to pay heed to complaints in this 
context. Necessary instructions in this regard will be issued by end-October 
2017,” it said.

   

  
http://www.financialexpress.com/money/rbi-monetary-policy-good-news-for-senior-citizens-differently-abled-as-banks-ordered-to-improve-facilities/882239/

   

 





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Re: [Ai] complete guidelines for using indian railways with jaws

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

you need not to type captcha on IRCTC portal. on the login page check the 
box for visually impaired. an OTP will shot on your phone both at the time 
of login and after entering passenger details OTP for booking. I shall 
upload the CCPD order on the matter. however it is not required for the 
booking purpose. it is in jpg form, OCR is required to read the order. just 
follow the above steps.



-Original Message- 
From: pardeep lamba via Ai

Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 11:38 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: pardeep lamba
Subject: Re: [Ai] complete guidelines for using indian railways with jaws

anybody have settlement order of CCPD capture code with railway?

On 10/4/17, puneet soni via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote:

I think there is no way to do like that.

On 10/3/17, vishal sharma via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> 
wrote:

I have one query ,is there a way to save my ,handicapped id number or
card ?in passenger list as it does not show

On 9/29/17, Alok Gupta via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote:



On Mon, 28/8/17, bhawani shankar verma via Ai
<ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Ai] complete guidelines for using indian railways with
jaws
 To: "Share, empower " <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
 Cc: "bhawani shankar verma" <bsvermad...@gmail.com>
 Date: Monday, 28 August, 2017, 2:14 AM

 no for booking ticket an OTP is required for
 visually impaired persons. it
 can be construed on the login page of
 IRCTC. this OTP came after a
 settlement order of CCPD where I filed
 a petition regarding captcha. hence,
 you can let your officers know this
 point and would better if you convince
 them to make the IRCTC website more
 accessible for screen reader. now you
 can even book your concession ticket
 with this portal easily. many of us
 enjoying this facility. you can suggest
 them a text based logical captcha if
 it is required and for this accessible
 captcha example, you may refer them
 login page of licindia.in




 -Original Message-
 From: sazid shaik via Ai
 Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 7:30 PM
 To: Share, empower 
 Cc: sazid shaik
 Subject: Re: [Ai] complete guidelines
 for using indian railways with jaws

 Dear friend, earlier after ramsenwear
 attack www.indianrail.gov.in was
 kept captcha in everywere.  then i
 took this issue to the railway
 officers and removed that captcha code
 entering system.  but for
 booking ticket i think so it is
 mandatory of captcha in indian rail
 website.  regarding this issue i
 spoke with the concern officers.  let
 us hope removing this captcha will be
 heard soon.

 thanks and regards,
 sazid

 On 8/12/17, Avee Gupta via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
 wrote:
 > Hello dear list members ,
 > hope this mail finds all of you
 in  good health .
 > I am writing  after a long
 time but regularly following the list.
 > I want to know  is there
 any  accessible ios application for indian
 > railways which includes features
 of booking tickets along with pnr
 > enquiry and finding trains between
 stations .
 > also let me know any accessible
 website for doing the same without
 > login as I tried indianrail.gov.in
 but found inaccessible due to
 > captcha .
 > hoping for all of yourexpert
 suggestions .
 > thanks and sincere regards
 > --
 > Avee Gupta
 > UIICL CBO-I  Indore
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Re: [Ai] strange message from Outlook 2016 when opening links in mails

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

roll back to lower virsions like 38, 21 etc. higher versions of firefox 
don't allow to modify its most of the default settings. you can direct 
download older versions of firefox.



-Original Message- 
From: P L VERMA via Ai

Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 4:58 AM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: P L VERMA
Subject: Re: [Ai] strange message from Outlook 2016 when opening links in 
mails


Hi Payal and Shankar,

after 3 days of version 47, fire fox did a high jack and automatically
upgraded to version 56 and i am back with the problems.
could someone help in guiding me as to how to stop this automatic update
business?
I am using windows 7.

- Original Message - 
From: "Payal Kapoor via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower " 
Cc: "Payal Kapoor" 
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] strange message from Outlook 2016 when opening links in
mails



thanks for the detailed steps Shankar. I will try these out and see
where it takes me.
Payal

On 10/4/17, shankar shan via Ai  
wrote:

its just the workaround.
1st make internet explorer as your default browser.
to do this on windows 10, do the following.
1. press windows key, you will see a search feeld.
2. type default app settings and press enter.
3. press tab untill jaws says "web brouser, firefox button.
4. press enter.
5.  from the choose an app list, select  internet explorer by pressing 
tab

key.
6. once jaws says internet explorer, press enter.
7. now, your default browser will be internet explorer.


open any mail from outlook and try opening the hyperlink.

if you able to view the external links then you can skip the below steps.

to restore the internet explore settings, do the following.
1. open the tools from the internet explorer.
2. go to options.
3. press ctrl tab untill the jaws says "advance page."
4.  press tab untill jaws says reset... button.
5. press enter.
6. if you saved any personal information, then, do not check the check
box which says delete personal information.
7.  tab to reset button and press enter.
8. restart the brouser and try opening the hyperlinks from the outlook.





On 10/4/17, Payal Kapoor via Ai  
wrote:

I use Firefox as my default browser but have never done a restore
settings. could I request you to help me with how ii can do this?
thanks

On 10/4/17, shankar shan via Ai 
wrote:

alright,  if your using your default browser as a firefox or, internet
explorer, please try to restore it's settings and try accessing hiper
links from the outlook.

On 10/4/17, Payal Kapoor via Ai 
wrote:

my outlook is configured only to my gmail account which has been
working for years now without any problem.
I have accessed mails and l links from all over, both official and
other external links with no issues until this one that I've  noticed
just this morning.
the only change I have made recently to my Win 10 laptop is upgrading
to the latest version of JAWS  and Firefox.

On 10/4/17, shankar shan via Ai 
wrote:

hi there,
as for as my concern, if you configured your outlook with some of
organizational accounts [companies] the admins might blocked or
prevented you to access the content from outside.

please conform that the what kind of accounts you have configured on
the outlook so that, i can try to help you.

On 10/4/17, Payal Kapoor via Ai 
wrote:

hi,
I have noticed a strange message from Outlook 2016 with JAWS
18.0.4321
when trying to open links in a mail which is preventing me from
opening any links. this is as of a couple of days back. is there a
setting where I can make some changes?
I have tried unblocking sender etc to no avail. the message is 
copied

below:
Microsoft Outlook
Your organization's policies are preventing us from completing this
action for you. For more info, please contact your help desk.
OK
thanks for any help.
Payal
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Re: [Ai] Unable to grant permission to apps due to screen overlay issue

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

what is the solution?


-Original Message- 
From: Science Explorer via Ai

Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 12:17 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Science Explorer
Subject: Re: [Ai] Unable to grant permission to apps due to screen overlay 
issue


Hello there:
   Screen overlay occurs when an app has partially occupied your
screen transparently or opaquely, such as opening a Facebook chat
window during a notification and you typing back while watching
youtube etc. So it is possible some app is running over another app
(an example of whose has been given by Bhavani sir, i.e. dimmed screen
due to talkback).

  Android doesn't allow to change settings while there is screen
overlay due to some security issues.
With best wishes
Hope it helps.
   Sunil

On 9/26/17, Rishi Kewalramani via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> 
wrote:

Hi,

My screen is displaying properly and I have not dimmed my screen in the
talk
back settings.

Thanks and regards, rishi



From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
bhawani shankar verma via Ai
Sent: 26 September 2017 10:26 AM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: bhawani shankar verma
Subject: Re: [Ai] Unable to grant permission to apps due to screen overlay
issue



please check your screen is displaying properly. also please undim your
screen if you have set to dim in talkback global context. after getting
permission you can dim it again. hope this will work.







From: Rishi Kewalramani via Ai <mailto:ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>


Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:18 AM

To: ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in
<mailto:ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>

Cc: Rishi Kewalramani <mailto:rishi.kewalram...@gmail.com>

Subject: [Ai] Unable to grant permission to apps due to screen overlay
issue



Hi Dear friends,

I'm facing a  problem in my android mobile phone.

In my Moto X Gen2 android mobile I'm unable to grant  permission to apps 
to

function fully and normally.

For example, my whatsapp is not showing the names of my contacts, I'm
unable
to type in whatsapp using speech to text voice typing etc. the reason for
all this is that whatsapp has not been granted permission to access my
contacts, the microphone etc.

Similarly, I'm unable to use Uber app because peermission is not been
granted to use my location etc.

So when I get into my settings and then apps, and when I get into whatsapp
for instance, it clearly shows no permission is granted, and then what I
tap
to grant all permission to that app, a message pops up saying that screen
overlay detected and that I got to turn off  screen overlay, and then when
I
get into the screen overlay settings and turn off all the apps that is
drawing over other apps, despite this I'm unable to grant permission to
whatsapp and to other apps to access   everything that it wants to, for 
it

to function fully and normally.

I hope I've been able to explain my problem.

So has anyone faced this issue of screen overlay and not being able to
grant
permission to apps to function fully?

How to resolve this  annoying issue?



Looking forward to all your kind and valuable inputs,

Please help me to resolve  this issue,

Sincerely,

Rishi

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Re: [Ai] Unable to grant permission to apps due to screen overlay issue

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

please check your screen is displaying properly. also please undim your screen 
if you have set to dim in talkback global context. after getting permission you 
can dim it again. hope this will work.



From: Rishi Kewalramani via Ai 
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:18 AM
To: ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in 
Cc: Rishi Kewalramani 
Subject: [Ai] Unable to grant permission to apps due to screen overlay issue

Hi Dear friends,

I'm facing a  problem in my android mobile phone.

In my Moto X Gen2 android mobile I'm unable to grant  permission to apps to 
function fully and normally.

For example, my whatsapp is not showing the names of my contacts, I'm unable to 
type in whatsapp using speech to text voice typing etc. the reason for all this 
is that whatsapp has not been granted permission to access my contacts, the 
microphone etc.

Similarly, I'm unable to use Uber app because peermission is not been granted 
to use my location etc.

So when I get into my settings and then apps, and when I get into whatsapp for 
instance, it clearly shows no permission is granted, and then what I tap to 
grant all permission to that app, a message pops up saying that screen overlay 
detected and that I got to turn off  screen overlay, and then when I get into 
the screen overlay settings and turn off all the apps that is drawing over 
other apps, despite this I'm unable to grant permission to whatsapp and to 
other apps to access   everything that it wants to, for  it to function fully 
and normally.

I hope I've been able to explain my problem.

So has anyone faced this issue of screen overlay and not being able to grant 
permission to apps to function fully?

How to resolve this  annoying issue?

 

Looking forward to all your kind and valuable inputs,

Please help me to resolve  this issue,

Sincerely,

Rishi




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Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an update on meeting with RBI

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

braille numbers won't last longer. hence I suggest that there should be cuts 
of different shapes on the corners of notes.



-Original Message- 
From: Misbah via Ai

Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 12:44 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Misbah
Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an 
update on meeting with RBI


Hats off to the entire team for meeting and sensitizing the RBI
officials. As someone rightly stated, it is (RBI) n only an
implementing body so we should strongly push this key concern with
Government officials and honorable Courts. In my View also the
different sizes of the notes are the more practical solution. We can
also think of embossing Braille numbers in terms of 50, 100, 200
numbers respectively at each corners of the currency bills.  In the
meanwhile, we can use different pockets of our purses for
differentiating the currency or can try to use as much as possible the
digital payment system.

On 9/23/17, P. Subramani via Ai  wrote:

meetings with ower people of rbi and the ministry  although good will not
get any steps forward as they are bound by certain rules, also they are 
mere

implementers rather than decision-makers,  the last possible option is to
meet the finance minister to explain equovically the blind aren't able
identify these new notes, the same should be withdrawn and restore the 
sizes

of old notes, even if they have  croers on new designs etc.,  its their
headache to have come up with solutions including for the blind,  we must
bring  this to pm's attention to find a immediate/suitable solution, or
else,  we will be left in the dark in the use of new notes
E-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
Mob:  9738150192

- Original Message -
From: "Ketan Kothari via Ai" 
To: "Share, empower " 
Cc: "Ketan Kothari" 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an
update on meeting with RBI



Dear Friends,

Extremely good work.   I remember having participated in at least 2
meetings of this nature.  Unfortunately, not much has yielded.  Also,
the problem of coins is equally challenging and is getting worse.

Actually, I feel that we must take up this issue with the minister of
finance as at a certain level, RBI is also bound by executive orders.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 9/20/17, Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) via Ai
 wrote:

Hi all,

Here is a brief update on our meeting with RBI authorities.
We had Kanchan Pamnani, Suhas Karnik, Amar Jain and myself Vishal
Kumar Jain attending the meeting. First of all thanks a lot for all
those who have supported with a lot of ground work and those who wrote
to the authorities which enabled us have this meeting in the first
place.

We discussed on each of the points highlighted in the representation.
The RBI team was relatively new to the subject and unfortunately they
were not updated with earlier conversations on it. Overall it was a
much needed discussion and the team was receptive to listen to our
suggestions. However the team avoided making any commitments. Below
are the key highlights:
1. The longest conversation was on size variation which remains a
major issue. If RBI goes ahead with their plan, the size variation of
notes will come down from 10mm to around 4mm with the introduction of
new Rs. 100, Rs. 20 and Rs. 10 notes. More over the width of all the
notes is expected to be the same (66mm). This will make it close to
impossible for us to identify the notes. While the team understood our
concerns, they expressed their own challenge of maintaining variation
due to reduction in overall size of the notes.
2. The team was taken aback to understand that the bleed line and
tactile markings are not perceivable. They accepted the fact and
confirmed to prioritize on finding a solution to make it perceivable.
They also expressed technical challenges in making it happen.
3. Inputs on low vision friendly features was welcomed and they plan
to continue with contrast color, color variation, font size, etc.
4. Fake notes issue was acknowledge and they thought of focusing on
perceptible tactile markings and keeping the texture of notes
different from normal paper.
5. The team confirmed to pass on inputs related to issues other than
currency notes to relevant departments and discussion on accessible
websites and apps was in brief.
6. Most importantly we discovered that RBI had interactions with NGOs
and teams like us in the past. However the inputs and suggestions have
not been valued given the fact they have gone ahead with lower size
variation and unperceivable tactile markings in the new notes.

So on the whole the meeting was productive in sensitizing the team on
our needs. At the same time it doesn’t assure of our issues getting
sufficiently addressed any time 

Re: [Ai] a small but urgent query on railway cnsession

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

mostly, no, it depends upon the person who is sitting in the counter. however, 
it is clearly mentioned on your certificate that a passenger have to produce 
original copy of the certificate while purchasing a ticket and during the 
journey if demanded by the ticket checking staff. you should read the entire 
certificate before putting query in the list.


From: MAYANK SHARMA via Ai 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 8:30 AM
To: Share, empower  
Cc: MAYANK SHARMA 
Subject: [Ai] a small but urgent query on railway cnsession

Hi evryone. 

I would need to book a ticket and do not possess the original copy of the 
consessional certificate. Does anyone know if we can book with just a photo or 
a copy of the certificate  to avail consession? 

Will wait for your responses. 
The ticket is from Chennai to Delhi, if that information helps. 

Thanks. 
Mayank




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Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

amit! unfortunately in our country, kanoon ke haath aur procedure, both are 
lengthy. also there is no remedy before the incident took place. All the 
agencies involve after the accident. the acuse is having full right to 
defend and sure he shall go upto supreme court. till that inocent child 
shall become adult. also the acuse is a foreign citizen and definitely he 
shall take either legal or diplomatic support from his country. the lower 
court will take its own time for trial. so we should not expect instant 
dicision on the matter.





-Original Message- 
From: Amit Bhatt via Ai

Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:41 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Amit Bhatt
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

It happens everywhere and even in our family, this is not at all a
convincing logic.

Just suggest the same to social workers, Courts and the Government. So they
can stop doing anything towards restricting molestation or rape cases and
breakdown all norms against who so ever gets involved in such crime.

I am afraid many of our friends say it is not an easy to run the
institute,is this a right way to justify the insidence?

What is easy to run then!

One example: a rapest can simply say "it is not easy to manage the mental
state of the mind of a human and that's why I have done this crime!" would
it make any sence?
And then law would forgive him just because it was his desire and he could
not control the mental state of his mind as it is not as easy as running an
NGO.

I don't understand what sort of rational thoughts with logics we are putting
across when we do not have to justify such mishappenings.

Thanks,

Amit Bhatt
- Original Message - 
From: "Mahendra Galani via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower " 
Cc: "Mahendra Galani" 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident


inspite of family not wanting such insident
happening, it happens also in the family.
who u want to blaim?
u can not have round the clock supervision.
not that i am supporting any  one,
one can have reasonable care,
but its impossible to avoid totaly.
so friends, stop blaiming others, its never easy to run the institute.



At 05:39 PM 9/10/2017 +0530, you wrote:
Some seniors, since beginning they are criticizing the incident though each 
of us has already condemned the incident & expressed our deep concerns over 
the bad incident. Whether anybody have any specific mechanism to avoid 
these kinds of incidents in future?
Each of us knows, it'll not be the first & the last incident of the 
organisation. Every organisation is facing the same kinds of situation in 
different-different ways, so, everybody should have give their valuable 
suggestions to improve the situation of school campus
This is equally true, the incident took place only due to negligence of 
Hostel warden & other resident staff, so, free & fair internal inquiry 
should be conducted to fix the accountability & necessary security majors

Should have taken to avoid these incidents in future.
10 years back, I spent almost one month there for computer training & I was 
too shocked to find the worst situation of discipline inside the campus. 
Their students were involved in various bad activities, like fighting here 
& there in the public transport, using Alcohol, one of their students use 
to come in our room and stolen the mobile of one of our83 years old 
trainees, Mr. Pyaralal Aggarwal.
This is true, their management is totally irresponsible towards the 
students of the campus. They are simply enjoying their life in very good 
premises of the institution only on the names of welfare of these students.
This is equally true, maintaining of discipline inside the campus should 
have been the first priority for the management as well as for some of 
their so called volunteers but I am sorry to say, nobody took all these 
things seriously. Most of these are simply enjoying various facilities 
along with the students & getting attached with the organization for their 
own interest only. Everybody is trying to give a safe passage to their 
staff members in spite of condemning them.
This is the time for these people, whether they should have to be with the 
institution or keep themselves away from the institution. This is the total 
failure of these volunteers & management of the institution
I am quite confident that some positive result will come out which will 
give a better future to the organisation.

- Original Message -
From: r k sarin via Ai
To: Share, empower 
Cc: r k sarin
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

Who stops the law but the donors are one of the parties of an institution 
which any institution 

Re: [Ai] complete guidelines for using indian railways with jaws

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

no for booking ticket an OTP is required for visually impaired persons. it 
can be construed on the login page of IRCTC. this OTP came after a 
settlement order of CCPD where I filed a petition regarding captcha. hence, 
you can let your officers know this point and would better if you convince 
them to make the IRCTC website more accessible for screen reader. now you 
can even book your concession ticket with this portal easily. many of us 
enjoying this facility. you can suggest them a text based logical captcha if 
it is required and for this accessible captcha example, you may refer them 
login page of licindia.in





-Original Message- 
From: sazid shaik via Ai

Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 7:30 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: sazid shaik
Subject: Re: [Ai] complete guidelines for using indian railways with jaws

Dear friend, earlier after ramsenwear attack www.indianrail.gov.in was
kept captcha in everywere.  then i took this issue to the railway
officers and removed that captcha code entering system.  but for
booking ticket i think so it is mandatory of captcha in indian rail
website.  regarding this issue i spoke with the concern officers.  let
us hope removing this captcha will be heard soon.

thanks and regards,
sazid

On 8/12/17, Avee Gupta via Ai  wrote:

Hello dear list members ,
hope this mail finds all of you in  good health .
I am writing  after a long time but regularly following the list.
I want to know  is there any  accessible ios application for indian
railways which includes features of booking tickets along with pnr
enquiry and finding trains between stations .
also let me know any accessible website for doing the same without
login as I tried indianrail.gov.in but found inaccessible due to
captcha .
hoping for all of yourexpert suggestions .
thanks and sincere regards
--
Avee Gupta
UIICL CBO-I  Indore
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Re: [Ai] a small query on Railway concession

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

no you have to obtain new certificate to renew your ID card.


-Original Message- 
From: MAYANK SHARMA via Ai

Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 10:58 AM
To: Ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in
Cc: MAYANK SHARMA
Subject: [Ai] a small query on Railway concession

hi all,

Just a small question, how can we renew our railway concession
form/certificate when it expires? I went through some of the previous
mails and unsure if we're still able to book tickets using the
concession certificate  with E-cards coming in the picture.
I'm in Delhi if that helps.

Thank you

Kind regards
Mayank
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Re: [Ai] reading JPEG files

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

o d combination is for pdf only.


-Original Message- 
From: Shireen Irani via Ai

Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 12:03 PM
To: Connect, share and enrich
Cc: Shireen Irani
Subject: [Ai] reading JPEG files

hi,

does the jaws OCR feature also read JPEG files? like a photo of a
text-file? i tried  running a document OCR on it by pressing O and
then D, but every time there is a bell/ buzzer kinda thing that goes
off, like its the wrong command.

so please let me know if there's a different command for texts in
pictures. i don't mean a scanned document, I mean a photograph. the 1
that opens with   windows photo viewer.
I'm using jaws 16 with windows 7.
thanks,

Shireen.
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Re: [Ai] For software developers - creating custom accessible CAPTCHA

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

it is already in IRCTC. in udai both captcha and OTP.


-Original Message- 
From: gatak singh via Ai

Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 2:27 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: gatak singh
Subject: Re: [Ai] For software developers - creating custom accessible 
CAPTCHA


the best alternative they can provide for captcha is OTP. I just
visited the income tax website to link my apan card with adhar card.
they have this option. I easily linked my pan card with the help of
OTP. I loved it. I think IRCTC, UIDAI, and all others should adopt
this idea.

On 8/8/17, Kotian, H P via Ai  wrote:

Hi Alok

Just to bring to your attention, there is a security challenge in this
approach.
CAPTCHA is essentially used to fight against Bots and to prevent them from
guess the CAPTCHA.
As I see, you have the words placed in Alt text. It is not a big deal to
read the alt dext fromDocument object and convert the numbers in words 
back

to numerals.

Check it out.

Harish.


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Alok Kaushik via Ai
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:49 AM
To: ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in
Cc: Alok Kaushik 
Subject: [Ai] For software developers - creating custom accessible CAPTCHA

Hi,
In one of my recent software development works I created a CAPTCHA that is
accessible for screen readers using the following approach.


1.   Generate a random 5 digit number.

2.   Generate an image containing the embedded 5 digit number. Image 
is
programmatically generated and is  not an image that could be downloaded. 
5

digit number is communicated to the captcha generating code using
encryption.

3.   Convert the complete 5 digit number in English words, including 
the

words thousand and hundred.

4.   Assign the converted number in words as the alternate text of the
image dynamically. This would allow the screen readers to read out the
number in words, while  other users will see regular image.

5.   Track the random number as a session variable for later
comparison.

I am writing this for following two reasons.

1.   This approach seems to be working for me. Want to know if anyone
sees any issue in this either in usability or security.

2.   If anyone doing software development is interested in 
implementing

this, I can share the code off the list.

Thanks.
Alok




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[Ai] TRABELLIGN ALLOWANCE WITH ESCORT

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

here is the circular:
however, I object the class c) of this circular.

No. 19030/3/2013-E.IV 
Government of India 
Ministry of Finance 
Department of Expenditure 
North Block, New Delhi. Dated the 17th February, 2015. 
OFFICE MEMORANDUM 
Subject:- Travelling Allowance in respect of Attendant/Escort for accompanying 
a Government Servant with Disabilities on travel during tour/training etc.

# 
References have been received in the Ministry of Finance, Department of 
Expenditure seeking provision in the Rules/instructions regulating Travelling 
Allowance,
in order to allow grant of Travelling Allowance to the Government servant with 
Disabilities in respect of an Attendant/Escort accompanying such a Government
servant with Disabilities during travel while on tour/training, etc. At present 
there are no provisions in the Travelling Allowance rules which allows
Government servants to claim Travelling Allowance in respect of 
Attendant/Escort accompanying them on tour/ training, etc. where such 
Government servants
require the assistance of an Attendant/Escort for travel. 
2.
The matter has been considered and it has now been decided to allow Travelling 
Allowance in respect of the Attendant/Escort, for accompanying a Government
servant with Disabilities during travel while on tour/training, etc., to be 
claimed by the Government servant with Disabilities. The admissibility of 
Travelling
Allowance, in respect of the Attendant/Escort accompanying a Government servant 
with Disabilities, would be subject to the following conditions:
(a)
Ordinarily, the field offices/local administrative offices at the touring 
station, which the Government servant with Disabilities is required to visit
on tour or training institutes where the Government servant with Disabilities 
is required to undergo training, would be required to provide an 
Attendant/Escort,
from the existing pool of staff/persons employed, from the time the Government 
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his headquarter station/place from where the Government servant with 
Disabilities
had initially proceeded to that destination. During travel abroad, either on 
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Government servant with Disabilities in that country. 
(b)
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Attendant/Escort to the visiting Government servant with Disabilities, would 
the claim
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Attendant/Escort
accompanying Government servant with Disabilities would be reimbursed. While 
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servant with Disabilities however, can take along his personal Attendant/Escort
for travel by Indian Railways for assistance during journey and 
boarding/deboarding, even when an Attendant/Escort at destination station is 
provided officially.

(c) 
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offered by Railways/Airlines. 
(d)
The facility of Travelling Allowance for the Attendant/Escort would only be 
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certified
by the competent Medical Authority that such a person compulsorily requires 
assistance of another person for travel. Under this clause, necessary 
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is to be obtained from the Head of Department of a Government Civil Hospital 
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Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

without human entervention, how the application go in software system. we have 
to deal from jandhan account to premium customers. suppose a totally blind 
customer demand a cheque book on the basis of thumb impression, presently, is 
not possible to issue him because both, the issuing authority and passing 
authority don’t sit on the same branch. we have to upload the requisition of 
customer and a name printed chequebook deliver on his address. after 
introduction of CTS system, a branch can not guarantee that a chequebook on 
thumb impression will be passed by the passing officer or not. as the image of 
cheque goes to the passing banker. the order passed by CCPD and IBA regarding 
chequebook on thumb impression is now required to be reviewed as the technology 
and the procedure of presentment and passing of the cheque has now been 
entirely transformed.
also there should be a clearcut notification by the central government that 
person if he is literate,  can not be recognised as an illiterate on the basis 
of thumb impression.
RBI and central government should impose biomatric recognition while 
transacting through banks. this will help most of the blind customers.




From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula via Ai 
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 2:21 PM
To: Share, empower  
Cc: Srinivasu Chakravarthula 
Subject: Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

I agree with George. The problem should be solved centrally. One of the ideas 
could be let denial of application be handled by software and not by 
authorities. So if authority clasifies a customer with disability, he/she can 
be denied only if software rejects the application on any grounds than 
disability. Though there is no need to classify customer as a person with 
disability, I'm saying so, because sadly we still have officers who do not know 
D of disability; so when such people reject application, we should just ask - 
upload data to your application and let's see what it would say. So policy gets 
applied into the software itself. 

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On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 2:00 PM, George Abraham via Ai 
 wrote:

  Dear Harish,



  The main problem with the banks is that the left hand does not know what the 
right hand is doing. Today if SBI Nehru Place agrees to provide services to 
blind after providing necessary circular, the next day another branch within 
the same city denies facilities.



  The problem really lies with the top management. They have not bothered to 
ensure that all public dealing professionals in the bank are aware of the 
rules. Solving individual cases through your meeting will not regularise the 
uniform implementation of rules across the country. Most officials do not 
bother to read circulars specially those pertaining to people with 
disabilities. This fact has to be taken on board. 



  From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Kotian, H P via Ai
  Sent: 04 August 2017 12:45
  To: Share, empower 
  Cc: Kotian, H P
  Subject: [Ai] Denial of Banking services



  All



  I will be attending a meeting with Indian Bankers Association (IBA) on the 
above subject. It is often told by the Banks, there is no discrimination done 
to the disabled. However, we know in the ground reality it is not the case.

  We want to document and present the facts during the meeting.



  If you or if you know of any disabled person to whom banking services has 
been denied owing to disability, Please furnish the following information:



  1 Name

  2 Bank and Branch

  3 Services requested

  4 Nature of denial

  5 Approximate date of the incident.

  6 Name or designation of the official in the Bank.

  7 Any documentation or email denying the fascility.



  Please send by 8th August on my email: hp.kot...@gmail.com



  Not on the list please.



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Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

Sir, specially is difficult to provide information on point no.6 and 7. in 
genral practice, public service official don’t disclose there names and don’t 
give any written refusal.
and george sir, this left right combination applies to all the government and 
public sectors, even private sectors. we can not blame bankers only.
we can take example from railway counters. also denial of admision in schools 
and colleges.


From: Kotian, H P via Ai 
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 12:45 PM
To: Share, empower  
Cc: Kotian, H P 
Subject: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

All

 

I will be attending a meeting with Indian Bankers Association (IBA) on the 
above subject. It is often told by the Banks, there is no discrimination done 
to the disabled. However, we know in the ground reality it is not the case.

We want to document and present the facts during the meeting.

 

If you or if you know of any disabled person to whom banking services has been 
denied owing to disability, Please furnish the following information:

 

1 Name

2 Bank and Branch

3 Services requested

4 Nature of denial

5 Approximate date of the incident.

6 Name or designation of the official in the Bank.

7 Any documentation or email denying the fascility.

 

Please send by 8th August on my email: hp.kot...@gmail.com

 

Not on the list please.

 

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Re: [Ai] Please suggest: Identifying Jewelry: how to know whether the Gold is pure

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

even some times jewler can not identify its purity. there are many frauds 
recorded regarding purity of gold and silver.



-Original Message- 
From: Preeti Monga via Ai

Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 2:07 PM
To: 'Share, empower '
Cc: Preeti Monga
Subject: Re: [Ai] Please suggest: Identifying Jewelry: how to know whether 
the Gold is pure


There is no way that a blind person can make out by touch that it is pure
gold! Only by going to a jewler can one get a proper idea of this. Then too,
the jewler may want to tell you that it is pure, when it is actually not
pure! Very difficult. You only need to go to a good  certified jewler and
get  jewelry that  has a whole mark on it. This is also very tiny but you
can have a trusted family or friend to see it for you.

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-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 13:05
To: ai
Cc: avinash shahi
Subject: [Ai] Please suggest: Identifying Jewelry: how to know whether the
Gold is pure

Dear listers,
Last evening, I showed a gold ring to 4 of my blind friends who're
doing Phds in different centres at JNU and asked them to identify if
its made of gold or not. They said "its not gold".it is however a pure
gold which has wholemark sign. I then thought of seeking your views
about how a totally blind individual can identify Jewelry? please
suggest ways you adopt to identify pure gold and other metals.



--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
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Re: [Ai] software cracks

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

ccomplishing
this task with free or open source tools available to us in any way?

Even if we do not realise,  we pay a very heavy cost for pirated software.
This is because we  condemn  those developers to starvation who try to
develop software for us. Thus no sensible person would try to  develop
anything for us. For example, did you ever think why Fine Reader doesn't
have any Indian Language in it?

Thanks
Dipendra


-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Chirag Mittal via Ai
Sent: 31 July 2017 22:24
To: Share, empower  <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
Cc: Chirag Mittal <chiragmittal...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ai] any tool which can convert pdf to word

Please try fine reder.Its great and can be use ofline also.You can easily
convert pdf to word and vice versa.For cracking it u can contact me anytime
on 9729402525

On 7/31/17, r k sarin via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote:

I use to change PDF files into word file through fine reader.
- Original Message -
From: "Dr. G. Janardhana Naidu via Ai"
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To: "Share, empower " <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
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Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] any tool which can convert pdf to word



Dear Varma Sir, Thanks for the information. But zamzar.com requires
internet. Is there any off line free tool? Does zamzar.com convert
regional language such as telugu pdf files in to word?
Thanks in advance,
Janardhana Naidu.

On 7/30/17, bhawani shankar verma via Ai
<ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote:

open book, k1000, fine reader are paid software. there are many
online utilities like zamzar.com you can upload your file and in
result you will get converted word file.


From: samidha dhumatkar via Ai
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: samidha dhumatkar
Subject: Re: [Ai] any tool which can convert pdf to word

I you can use openbook


On Jul 30, 2017 2:24 PM, "sazid shaik via Ai"
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  dear list,
  I am having a pdf document as my nvda is not reading that document.  I
  want to convert that into word document by which i can read that
  document with nvda.  kindly share that tool and suggest.

  thanks and regards,
  sazid
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Re: [Ai] any tool which can convert pdf to word

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

try this method:
open pdf file. go to edit>copy file to clipboard. open ms-word>paste it. at 
the time of copy-pasting, both adobe and ms-word programme should be on open 
window.
this will also work in unicode pdf files. this is a simple convertion. for 
complex documents, you need professional utilities.




-Original Message- 
From: sazid shaik via Ai

Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 7:59 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: sazid shaik
Subject: Re: [Ai] any tool which can convert pdf to word

As I am looking for open/free source tool.   hence guide me.

thanks and regards,
sazid

On 7/30/17, bhawani shankar verma via Ai
<ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote:

open book, k1000, fine reader are paid software. there are many online
utilities like zamzar.com you can upload your file and in result you will
get converted word file.


From: samidha dhumatkar via Ai
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: samidha dhumatkar
Subject: Re: [Ai] any tool which can convert pdf to word

I you can use openbook


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  dear list,
  I am having a pdf document as my nvda is not reading that document.  I
  want to convert that into word document by which i can read that
  document with nvda.  kindly share that tool and suggest.

  thanks and regards,
  sazid
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Re: [Ai] any tool which can convert pdf to word

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

open book, k1000, fine reader are paid software. there are many online 
utilities like zamzar.com you can upload your file and in result you will get 
converted word file.


From: samidha dhumatkar via Ai 
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Share, empower  
Cc: samidha dhumatkar 
Subject: Re: [Ai] any tool which can convert pdf to word

I you can use openbook 


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  dear list,
  I am having a pdf document as my nvda is not reading that document.  I
  want to convert that into word document by which i can read that
  document with nvda.  kindly share that tool and suggest.

  thanks and regards,
  sazid
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Re: [Ai] querry about mobile on subsidise rate

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

why subsidy is required?


-Original Message- 
From: Santosh Gandigude via Ai

Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 10:37 AM
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Subject: Re: [Ai] querry about mobile on subsidise rate

I am also not getting such subsidies phone since birth. Can I get any
phone from any NGO or Government? What is procedure?

On 7/29/17, Navneet Dubey via Ai  wrote:

dear friends ,
i want to purchase a android mobile on subsidise rate .can any body
tell me  please is there are any n g o other than saksham who can
provide me android mobile on subsidise rate.
navneet dubey
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Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

sir,

1. how you can make difference bettween so called marital rape and regular 
consensus sex between husband and wife?


2.  can a woman force a man for sex or not? it is a matter of desire.


2. Even if two  adults are having regular sex for two years if the guy 
forces himself on the woman when she is not willing, it is rape.


-Original Message- 
From: George Abraham via Ai

Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 5:15 PM
To: 'Share, empower '
Cc: George Abraham
Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: 
Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman


Just to make a small observation:

1. Even if a husband forces himself on his wife if the wife is not willing, 
in my understanding it amounts to rape. Strange as it may sound.


2. Even if two  adults are having regular sex for two years if the guy 
forces himself on the woman when she is not willing, it is rape.


Lawyers on the list could check this out!

George

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
bhawani shankar verma via Ai

Sent: 26 July 2017 16:31
To: Share, empower 
Cc: bhawani shankar verma
Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: 
Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman


right prateek, how can a consensus sex be converted to rape? if that widow
was not agreed on her first encounter, why she did not go to police after
first encounter? she was waiting far 2 years to trap that man?
unfortunately, men have to suffer in india due to these gender biased laws.




-Original Message- 
From: prateek aggarwal via Ai

Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 3:51 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: prateek aggarwal
Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday:
Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

The widow went in a guest house with the boy to have sexual
relationship by her will and continued going on repeated basis. How
can this be even called rape is the question.
@Avinash, I agree that the silver lining is that women knocked the
door of court and found a favorable judgement, but I believe that this
can further de-motivate men to have sexual relationship with women,
even if the women are consenting to do so.
Who would want to get into troubles like this,  even after having done
sex with consent of the woman afterall.
The judgement would strengthen the opinion that blind women are not
quite  sexual being, which is already a prevalent  belief  in the
society.
This is truly illogical and one-sided in my opinion.
Unfortunate.

Regards,
Prateek agarwal.

On 7/26/17, avinash shahi via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote:

The surviver in the under discussion order is a widow; this fact and
her precarious circumstance may have led the judge to pronounce such a
harsh punishment. He however can approach the higher judiciary.  As a
silver lining, There are very few blind women who knock the door of
the courts when their bodily integrity is violated. This particular
order should deter blind men in particular to not take blind women for
granted and for a ride.
On 7/26/17, Arjun Malhotra via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
wrote:

Wasn't there a Supreme Court Judgment recently on educated women and
promise of marriage. Why not apply that yardstick in this case as
well.

On 7/26/17, Rahul Kelapure via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
wrote:

Agree with Prateek. Here I also see a strainge attitude of the Judge
to justify high punishment to the convict as the girl is blind and he
took advantage of her helplessness as she was blind.

While techniclly it could be rape but how many would Court award 10
years riggerous jail for this kind of matter in so called normal
cases?

I think, Judge has gone overboard while pronouncing the sentence.

This is like two extreme sides of attitude for disabled where on one
hand they will have extremely symphethy or they will have abselute
indiference or hatred for disabled.

If She was so clear that, she would want to have sex only after marage
then first marry and then do whatever. There are many matters where
everything is consensual but when things do not go as per the
expectation, slap with rape charges.

Strainge.

I am sure, this will not stand the scrutiny in the higher court. I
don't know how well the defence fought the matter.

On 7/26/17, prateek aggarwal via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
wrote:

While questioning court's decision is a crime itself in india, isn't
this unfair to punish man while the repeated sexual relationships were
established in mutual consensus of both the partners?
As both of them had sex multiple times since 2015, how can this be
even called rape on the first place?
Yes the news suggests that the man has  promised marriage and   on
that pretext this sexual relationship was established, but things may
happen in the course of  2 years

Re: [Ai] Unable to click notifications on Windows 10 with Jaws, Please help.

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

press window key+u. enter on use this computer without display. tab to the 
option how long windows notification dialog will open. set it to one minute or 
as per your comfirt. all done.


From: Aruni Sharma via Ai 
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:43 AM
To: Share, empower  
Cc: Aruni Sharma 
Subject: Re: [Ai] Unable to click notifications on Windows 10 with Jaws, Please 
help.

This method applies only some of the system notifications that stay untill you 
clear them. But there are many notifications that pop up from time to time and 
simply disappear. At least that is the case with my system and I am using NVDA 
as the only screen reader. Could someone throw more light on this?

Thanks and regards,
Dr. Aruni Sharma.
Associate Professor, Dept. of Political Science, JNPG College, Lucknow, India.
twitter: www.twitter.com/arunisharma
facebook: www.facebook.com/arunisharma
Skype: arunisha...@outlook.com




On 25 July 2017 at 06:30, B. R. Nautial via Ai 
 wrote:

  Use letter "A" with the combination of Windows key and press "Tab." now, use 
down arrow to read all these notifications one by one. Once again, use "Tab": 
and click on "Clear this notification". Delete all of these notification one by 
one by applying the same procedure.
  - Original Message - From: "Mahesh S. Panicker via Ai" 

  To: "Ai" 
  Cc: "Mahesh S. Panicker" 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:09 AM
  Subject: [Ai] Unable to click notifications on Windows 10 with Jaws, Please 
help.



Hi listers,
as the subject line indicates, I am unable to work with the
notifications that would pop up from time to time on windows 10. Up to
Windows 7, if you click the left mouse button when the notification
pops up, it would get activated. On Windows 10, the same is not
working for me. There are different applications that would give the
notifications, but on clicking the left mouse button, nothing happens
and the notification simply disappears. There is no way to retrieve
the same either. Using up to date Windows 10 and Jaws 18. Any way I
can fix this? Your help is much appreciated.
Regards,

-- 
Dr. Mahesh S. Panicker
Assistant Professor,
Department of Political Science,
Lady Shri Ram College for Women,
Lajpat Nagar
New Delhi 110024
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Re: [Ai] mahila cricket world cup final

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

hope that in your region a primary MW channel shall broadcast its running 
commentry. here our regional primary MW channel (ALL INDIA RADIO RAIPUR) shall 
broadcast it, same should be their at your region.


From: Sakina Dhariwala via Ai 
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 7:53 AM
To: Share, empower  
Cc: Sakina Dhariwala 
Subject: Re: [Ai] mahila cricket world cup final

Hi, can I get the link for 
AIRFM Gold?
Thanks and regards Sakina.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Vikas Kapoor via Ai 
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  Cc: Vikas Kapoor 
  Sent: July 22, 2017 09:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ai] mahila cricket world cup final

  AIRFM Gold!
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Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 8:49 PM
Subject: [Ai] mahila cricket world cup final

regards to friends . 
is it live comentary available anywhere ?
gajendra vyas 
phone : 079-48000204
mobile : 9427065866



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Re: [Ai] Interview

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

right sir, we are enjoying the food cooked by youngsters in 70s and 80s.


-Original Message- 
From: r k sarin via Ai

Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:08 AM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: r k sarin
Subject: Re: [Ai] Interview

Whether we like it or not, I feel that the intelligentsia is reluctant in
joining hands to be the part of pressure tactics to force the government to
implement the employment policy for the persons with disability. I have my
red hand experience an wish to share it without caring how all you will
feel. Without naming anybody or year, I wish to reveal my interaction with
the JNU  intellectuals with disabilities. When I asked them why do we not
aunch a movement against jjnu administration which is not giving the job to
the disabled persons, I was told by that group that they were busy in their
studies and were getting ample fellowship, how could  they launch any
struggle. Similar thing has happened very recently when a post reserved for
the VH was filled by OH, no step whatsoever has been taken. I strongly feel
that, in the name of unity, we are afraid of exposing administration for
this gross misuse. Be sure, contradictions are always there in any society
and if we are scared, I am afraid that we may reach anywhere. Somewhere, we
have to introspect. Youngsters struggling during seventies and eighties of
the last century were not stupid, they sacrifised their future for the
present. But pragmatism and easy going is the key to the present day
disability activists and students engaged in the disability studdy. Even the
harsh reaction from any of you is highly appreciable--it will give me
strength.
- Original Message - 
From: "avinash shahi via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower " 
Cc: "avinash shahi" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Interview



It was a good read. Thanks for sharing. I liked Your views on
academia. I wonder how Mr SK Rungta thought that academia offers the
comfort zone for blind people. I respect his view but pity his
observations also. Being in the academia and in the last phase of my
PhD, I can put it plainly that the life is very cruel in academia. Be
it publishing, conducting surveys, taking projects and finding
employment people like me are struggling from pillar to post. Apart
from Delhi University, none other UGC-funded universities/colleges are
willing to provide employment to blind academics. The scenario is more
bleak in the private universities. I often worry that probablly I
might end up working in other sectors cause finding job is very
difficult in Indian universities. Afterall, one has to start earning
for his/her survival!


On 6/27/17, Asudani, Rajesh via Ai  
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Friends
Interested may read my interview on:
http://idialaw.com/blog/idap-interview-series-interview-ix-with-rajesh-asudani/

सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
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