[ai-geostats] RE: matter of pronunciation
On 11-Apr-05 Isobel Clark wrote: >> Dutch-fashion, where the "g" is a kind of >> throat-clearing sound, > More like the "ch" in the Scottish loch or like the > greek letter chi which forms the first letter in > Christos. Granted, though it's difficult to represent this in script (and I think it's more of a voiced sound, too). > If you want to be pedantic, the technique was not > named "kriging" by Matheron but "krigeage" - a attempt > to turn "krige" into a noun. This is pronounced with a > very soft 'g' almost a 'sh' sound. Also granted, though one should allow for French idiosyncracies in word-formation, and also for their propensity to pronounce foreign names as written but according to French rules -- though they will occasionally invent their own spelling in order to avoid obvious disasters (thus they write "Poutine" for the person we write as "Putin" -- the latter being effectively how he spells it himself, though in a different script). Best wishes, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 12-Apr-05 Time: 00:50:49 -- XFMail -- * By using the ai-geostats mailing list you agree to follow its rules ( see http://www.ai-geostats.org/help_ai-geostats.htm ) * To unsubscribe to ai-geostats, send the following in the subject or in the body (plain text format) of an email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signoff ai-geostats
RE: [ai-geostats] matter of pronunciation
Well, well. I didn't expect to start such a tempest with my question! Since I have a last name that many seem to mispronounce (using a long "o" as in "glow" instead of the proper short "o" as in "love"), I should have asked how D. Krige pronounced his last name. I appreciate everyone's information, opinion, and speculation on this. Tim Glover Senior Environmental Scientist - Geochemistry Geoenvironmental Department MACTEC Engineering and Consulting, Inc. Kennesaw, Georgia, USA Office 770-421-3310 Fax 770-421-3486 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.mactec.com * By using the ai-geostats mailing list you agree to follow its rules ( see http://www.ai-geostats.org/help_ai-geostats.htm ) * To unsubscribe to ai-geostats, send the following in the subject or in the body (plain text format) of an email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signoff ai-geostats
[ai-geostats] Re: A matter of pronunciation
Even stranger when you consider that the Rev Bayes refused to have his work published during his lifetime. Isobel http://geoecosse.bizland.com/whatsnew --- Wilmer Rivers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In reports, should kriging, kriged, and krige be > written with an uppercase > > K, or lowercase as shown here? > > Poor Mr. Krige. It seems that the people who > calculate the Lagrangian > multipliers for Bayesian kriging must hold > mathematical physicists and > even mathematically inclined clergymen in "higher" > regard than they do > lowly mining engineers. A "capital" offense, > surely! :) > > Wil > > * By using the ai-geostats mailing list you agree to > follow its rules > ( see > http://www.ai-geostats.org/help_ai-geostats.htm ) > > * To unsubscribe to ai-geostats, send the following > in the subject or in the body (plain text format) of > an email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Signoff ai-geostats * By using the ai-geostats mailing list you agree to follow its rules ( see http://www.ai-geostats.org/help_ai-geostats.htm ) * To unsubscribe to ai-geostats, send the following in the subject or in the body (plain text format) of an email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signoff ai-geostats
[ai-geostats] Re: A matter of pronunciation
> In reports, should kriging, kriged, and krige be written with an uppercase > K, or lowercase as shown here? Poor Mr. Krige. It seems that the people who calculate the Lagrangian multipliers for Bayesian kriging must hold mathematical physicists and even mathematically inclined clergymen in "higher" regard than they do lowly mining engineers. A "capital" offense, surely! :) Wil * By using the ai-geostats mailing list you agree to follow its rules ( see http://www.ai-geostats.org/help_ai-geostats.htm ) * To unsubscribe to ai-geostats, send the following in the subject or in the body (plain text format) of an email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signoff ai-geostats
[ai-geostats] matter of pronunciation
Colin As a personal style, I tend to use a capital when referring to (say) Ordinary Kriging, Indicator Kriging and so on and a small letter when used as a noun or verb: "the area was kriged" Isobel http://uk.geocities.com/drisobelclark * By using the ai-geostats mailing list you agree to follow its rules ( see http://www.ai-geostats.org/help_ai-geostats.htm ) * To unsubscribe to ai-geostats, send the following in the subject or in the body (plain text format) of an email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signoff ai-geostats
RE: [ai-geostats] matter of pronunciation
Hello Colin: See: Geostatistical Glossary and Multilingual Dictionary Edited by Ricardo A. Olea. OXFORD, 1991 Regards, Marco ---Mensaje original--- De: Colin Badenhorst Fecha: 04/11/05 11:40:25 Para: 'Isobel Clark'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: AI Geostats mailing list Asunto: RE: [ai-geostats] matter of pronunciation Can I expand on this further? In reports, should kriging, kriged, and krige be written with an uppercase K, or lowercase as shown here? Regards, Colin -Original Message- From: Isobel Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 April 2005 15:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: AI Geostats mailing list Subject: [ai-geostats] matter of pronunciation > Dutch-fashion, where the "g" is a kind of throat-clearing sound, More like the "ch" in the Scottish loch or like the greek letter chi which forms the first letter in Christos. If you want to be pedantic, the technique was not named "kriging" by Matheron but "krigeage" - a attempt to turn "krige" into a noun. This is pronounced with a very soft 'g' almost a 'sh' sound. Most of the other 'foreign' versions use a hard 'g': krigaggio, krigovanie kriggage (quebecois) and so on. Almost everyone I know use the short 'i' as in pig. Isobel http://geoecosse.bizland.com * By using the ai-geostats mailing list you agree to follow its rules ( see http://www.ai-geostats.org/help_ai-geostats.htm ) * To unsubscribe to ai-geostats, send the following in the subject or in the body (plain text format) of an email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signoff ai-geostats
[ai-geostats] All right. What about GSLIB?
Since someone started it, let me just follow up the problem with pronunciation: Anyone got an idea how to pronounce GSLIB? Should it be Jee-Ehs-Laib, Jee-Ehs-Lib, or pronounced letter by letter? * By using the ai-geostats mailing list you agree to follow its rules ( see http://www.ai-geostats.org/help_ai-geostats.htm ) * To unsubscribe to ai-geostats, send the following in the subject or in the body (plain text format) of an email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signoff ai-geostats
RE: [ai-geostats] matter of pronunciation
Can I expand on this further? In reports, should kriging, kriged, and krige be written with an uppercase K, or lowercase as shown here? Regards, Colin -Original Message- From: Isobel Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 April 2005 15:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: AI Geostats mailing list Subject: [ai-geostats] matter of pronunciation > Dutch-fashion, where the "g" is a kind of throat-clearing sound, More like the "ch" in the Scottish loch or like the greek letter chi which forms the first letter in Christos. If you want to be pedantic, the technique was not named "kriging" by Matheron but "krigeage" - a attempt to turn "krige" into a noun. This is pronounced with a very soft 'g' almost a 'sh' sound. Most of the other 'foreign' versions use a hard 'g': krigaggio, krigovanie kriggage (quebecois) and so on. Almost everyone I know use the short 'i' as in pig. Isobel http://geoecosse.bizland.com * By using the ai-geostats mailing list you agree to follow its rules ( see http://www.ai-geostats.org/help_ai-geostats.htm ) * To unsubscribe to ai-geostats, send the following in the subject or in the body (plain text format) of an email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signoff ai-geostats
[ai-geostats] matter of pronunciation
> Dutch-fashion, where the "g" is a kind of > throat-clearing sound, More like the "ch" in the Scottish loch or like the greek letter chi which forms the first letter in Christos. If you want to be pedantic, the technique was not named "kriging" by Matheron but "krigeage" - a attempt to turn "krige" into a noun. This is pronounced with a very soft 'g' almost a 'sh' sound. Most of the other 'foreign' versions use a hard 'g': krigaggio, krigovanie kriggage (quebecois) and so on. Almost everyone I know use the short 'i' as in pig. Isobel http://geoecosse.bizland.com * By using the ai-geostats mailing list you agree to follow its rules ( see http://www.ai-geostats.org/help_ai-geostats.htm ) * To unsubscribe to ai-geostats, send the following in the subject or in the body (plain text format) of an email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signoff ai-geostats
RE: [ai-geostats] A matter of pronunciation
On 11-Apr-05 Glover, Tim wrote: > Here's a somewhat esoteric question for those of you who've > had direct contact with the early giants in the field > (on whose shoulders we now stand): > > What is the correct pronunciation of "kriging"? > > I've heard it CREE-ging, CRIG - ing, CREE-jing, etc. Without such direct contact, I think one can nevetheless answer by appeal to first principles. "Kriging" was named after Krige, a South African mining engineer. As such, his name would have been pronounced approximately Dutch-fashion, where the "g" is a kind of throat-clearing sound, perhaps most practically approximated for English speech by simply using the standard hard "g". The "i", however, would have been between the "i" in "pick" and the "ee" in "peek", so if we denote this by "î" then perhaps the best way to pronounce the word would be Krîging (with a hard "g"), i.e. between CRIG-ing and CREE-ging Awaiting the truth from those who really know, Best wishes, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 11-Apr-05 Time: 15:43:05 -- XFMail -- * By using the ai-geostats mailing list you agree to follow its rules ( see http://www.ai-geostats.org/help_ai-geostats.htm ) * To unsubscribe to ai-geostats, send the following in the subject or in the body (plain text format) of an email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signoff ai-geostats
[ai-geostats] A matter of pronunciation
Here's a somewhat esoteric question for those of you who've had direct contact with the early giants in the field (on whose shoulders we now stand): What is the correct pronunciation of "kriging"? I've heard it CREE-ging, CRIG - ing, CREE-jing, etc. Tim Glover Senior Environmental Scientist - Geochemistry Geoenvironmental Department MACTEC Engineering and Consulting, Inc. Kennesaw, Georgia, USA Office 770-421-3310 Fax 770-421-3486 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.mactec.com * By using the ai-geostats mailing list you agree to follow its rules ( see http://www.ai-geostats.org/help_ai-geostats.htm ) * To unsubscribe to ai-geostats, send the following in the subject or in the body (plain text format) of an email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signoff ai-geostats
