Re: [algogeeks] Number of sequences of n binary digits that don't contain two 1's in a row

2010-06-09 Thread saurabh gupta
i guess we are saying the same thing.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Senthilnathan Maadasamy <
senthilnathan.maadas...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I found a nice explanation (from some other site) on how to get this
> formula T(n) = fib(n+2).
>
> Consider the set of all binary numbers of length n that end with 0.  The
> first n-1 positions can be anything (0 or 1).  So if we take the set of all
> binary numbers of length n-1 and append 0 to each of its element we get this
> set.  Therefore size of this set is T(n-1).
>
> Consider the set of all binary numbers of length n that end with 1.  Now,
> the (n-1)th position has to be 0 (because of the constraint).  But there is
> no constraint on the first n-2 positions.  So if we take the set of all
> binary numbers of length n-2 and append 01 to each of its element we get
> this set.  Therefore size of this set is T(n-2).
>
> Therefore T(n) = T(n-1) + T(n-2).
>
> Since T(1) = 2 and T(2) = 3 we get T(n) = fib(n+2).
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Re: [algogeeks] Number of sequences of n binary digits that don't contain two 1's in a row

2010-06-08 Thread Senthilnathan Maadasamy
I found a nice explanation (from some other site) on how to get this formula
T(n) = fib(n+2).

Consider the set of all binary numbers of length n that end with 0.  The
first n-1 positions can be anything (0 or 1).  So if we take the set of all
binary numbers of length n-1 and append 0 to each of its element we get this
set.  Therefore size of this set is T(n-1).

Consider the set of all binary numbers of length n that end with 1.  Now,
the (n-1)th position has to be 0 (because of the constraint).  But there is
no constraint on the first n-2 positions.  So if we take the set of all
binary numbers of length n-2 and append 01 to each of its element we get
this set.  Therefore size of this set is T(n-2).

Therefore T(n) = T(n-1) + T(n-2).

Since T(1) = 2 and T(2) = 3 we get T(n) = fib(n+2).

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Re: [algogeeks] Number of sequences of n binary digits that don't contain two 1's in a row

2010-06-08 Thread saurabh gupta
recursion.
for length n if the count is T(n) then
T(n)
= 1st digit 0 + 1st digit 1
=  T(n-1) + 1st digit 1 && 2nd digit 0
= T(n-1) + T(n-2)

QED.

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Raj N  wrote:

> I just checked out with so many possibilities and it is indeed matching. I
> may not be correct though.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:50 PM, divya jain wrote:
>
>> how do u come to this formula T(n)=fib(n+2).. plz explain
>>
>>
>> On 7 June 2010 21:19, saurabh gupta  wrote:
>>
>>> it might be referring to no of sequences (say T(n) ) with no consecutive
>>> 1's
>>> for n = 3, ans would be 5 viz.
>>> 000, 001, 010, 100, 101
>>>
>>> T(n) =  fib(n+2)
>>> where fib = Fibonacci series
>>> which is interesting.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Raj N  wrote:
>>>
 @sharad: What about 101 even it doesn't have two 1's in a row


 On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 8:59 AM, sharad kumar 
 wrote:

> @rajn.can it be subsequence doesnt have one's too.hence 000,001,010,100
> is required answer.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Raj N  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I came across this question to find the number of sequences of n
>> binary digits that don't contain 2 1's in a row. I wanted to know what
>> exactly this means. Is it like if n=3 then compute all binary numbers
>> having 3 digits which don't have consecutive 1's 110, 011, 111 ??
>> If not help me understanding it.
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Re: [algogeeks] Number of sequences of n binary digits that don't contain two 1's in a row

2010-06-08 Thread Raj N
I just checked out with so many possibilities and it is indeed matching. I
may not be correct though.

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:50 PM, divya jain  wrote:

> how do u come to this formula T(n)=fib(n+2).. plz explain
>
>
> On 7 June 2010 21:19, saurabh gupta  wrote:
>
>> it might be referring to no of sequences (say T(n) ) with no consecutive
>> 1's
>> for n = 3, ans would be 5 viz.
>> 000, 001, 010, 100, 101
>>
>> T(n) =  fib(n+2)
>> where fib = Fibonacci series
>> which is interesting.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Raj N  wrote:
>>
>>> @sharad: What about 101 even it doesn't have two 1's in a row
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 8:59 AM, sharad kumar wrote:
>>>
 @rajn.can it be subsequence doesnt have one's too.hence 000,001,010,100
 is required answer.


 On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Raj N  wrote:

> Hi,
> I came across this question to find the number of sequences of n
> binary digits that don't contain 2 1's in a row. I wanted to know what
> exactly this means. Is it like if n=3 then compute all binary numbers
> having 3 digits which don't have consecutive 1's 110, 011, 111 ??
> If not help me understanding it.
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Re: [algogeeks] Number of sequences of n binary digits that don't contain two 1's in a row

2010-06-08 Thread Raj N
@saurabh: Hey u're right this is interesting. I checked for n=5 its giving
13 i.e fib(7)

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 9:19 PM, saurabh gupta  wrote:

> it might be referring to no of sequences (say T(n) ) with no consecutive
> 1's
> for n = 3, ans would be 5 viz.
> 000, 001, 010, 100, 101
>
> T(n) =  fib(n+2)
> where fib = Fibonacci series
> which is interesting.
>
> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Raj N  wrote:
>
>> @sharad: What about 101 even it doesn't have two 1's in a row
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 8:59 AM, sharad kumar wrote:
>>
>>> @rajn.can it be subsequence doesnt have one's too.hence 000,001,010,100
>>> is required answer.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Raj N  wrote:
>>>
 Hi,
 I came across this question to find the number of sequences of n
 binary digits that don't contain 2 1's in a row. I wanted to know what
 exactly this means. Is it like if n=3 then compute all binary numbers
 having 3 digits which don't have consecutive 1's 110, 011, 111 ??
 If not help me understanding it.
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Re: [algogeeks] Number of sequences of n binary digits that don't contain two 1's in a row

2010-06-08 Thread divya jain
how do u come to this formula T(n)=fib(n+2).. plz explain

On 7 June 2010 21:19, saurabh gupta  wrote:

> it might be referring to no of sequences (say T(n) ) with no consecutive
> 1's
> for n = 3, ans would be 5 viz.
> 000, 001, 010, 100, 101
>
> T(n) =  fib(n+2)
> where fib = Fibonacci series
> which is interesting.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Raj N  wrote:
>
>> @sharad: What about 101 even it doesn't have two 1's in a row
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 8:59 AM, sharad kumar wrote:
>>
>>> @rajn.can it be subsequence doesnt have one's too.hence 000,001,010,100
>>> is required answer.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Raj N  wrote:
>>>
 Hi,
 I came across this question to find the number of sequences of n
 binary digits that don't contain 2 1's in a row. I wanted to know what
 exactly this means. Is it like if n=3 then compute all binary numbers
 having 3 digits which don't have consecutive 1's 110, 011, 111 ??
 If not help me understanding it.
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Re: [algogeeks] Number of sequences of n binary digits that don't contain two 1's in a row

2010-06-07 Thread saurabh gupta
it might be referring to no of sequences (say T(n) ) with no consecutive 1's
for n = 3, ans would be 5 viz.
000, 001, 010, 100, 101

T(n) =  fib(n+2)
where fib = Fibonacci series
which is interesting.

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Raj N  wrote:

> @sharad: What about 101 even it doesn't have two 1's in a row
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 8:59 AM, sharad kumar wrote:
>
>> @rajn.can it be subsequence doesnt have one's too.hence 000,001,010,100 is
>> required answer.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Raj N  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I came across this question to find the number of sequences of n
>>> binary digits that don't contain 2 1's in a row. I wanted to know what
>>> exactly this means. Is it like if n=3 then compute all binary numbers
>>> having 3 digits which don't have consecutive 1's 110, 011, 111 ??
>>> If not help me understanding it.
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Re: [algogeeks] Number of sequences of n binary digits that don't contain two 1's in a row

2010-06-05 Thread Raj N
@sharad: What about 101 even it doesn't have two 1's in a row

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 8:59 AM, sharad kumar wrote:

> @rajn.can it be subsequence doesnt have one's too.hence 000,001,010,100 is
> required answer.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Raj N  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I came across this question to find the number of sequences of n
>> binary digits that don't contain 2 1's in a row. I wanted to know what
>> exactly this means. Is it like if n=3 then compute all binary numbers
>> having 3 digits which don't have consecutive 1's 110, 011, 111 ??
>> If not help me understanding it.
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Re: [algogeeks] Number of sequences of n binary digits that don't contain two 1's in a row

2010-06-04 Thread sharad kumar
@rajn.can it be subsequence doesnt have one's too.hence 000,001,010,100 is
required answer.

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> having 3 digits which don't have consecutive 1's 110, 011, 111 ??
> If not help me understanding it.
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