Re: [all-audio] GoldWave Tutorials
Hey Howard. Did you mean to provide a link to a text file? I don't see one here. As for the too-large audio, you could maybe try wetransfer or something like that. Dropbox seems popular among some users. You could also use justbeamit or something like it to send the file to anyone individuall who asks for it. Basically, you upload the file and immediately send a link, and they have about ten minutes to grab it before it's gone. I don't know what the size limit is but it's fairly large I think. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Howard Traxler Sent: April 6, 2024 5:45 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: [all-audio] GoldWave Tutorials I have uploaded an ASCII text of a tutorial, by John "Wilson, to sendspace.com. I have three others that are audio files and too large to put on the sendspace free. Anyone who can direct me where and how, I can share them with you. They were offerred on the internet at no cost by their creators; and I am assuming they can freely be shared. Howard Traxler mailto:htraxl...@gmail.com To get the one text file that is on sendspace, go to https://www.sendspace.com/file/s6y605 It's the John Wilson creation. John Wilson - GOLDWAVE 5 AUDIO EDITOR (text).zip (9.1 KB) On 4/6/2024 1:51 PM, Georgina Joyce M0EBP She / Her wrote: > Hello Hamit, > > I was replying to this message: > > Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly > repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. > Search around and you should find some. > > > On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:36, Hamit Campos wrote: > > Yes but they are going to something else. > Now they also have the Reaper Made Easy podcasts. > But again Reaper is an actual DAW. > Like ProTules Logic Sonar and so on and so on. > What do you want to actually do? For speech only though $300 US > there's even Studio Recorder of APH. > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Georgina > Joyce M0EBP She / Her > Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 2:25 PM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and > beginner friendliness as a DAW? > > Hello, > > I haven't come across any Gold Wave resources. Audacity, someone set > up a podcast, which I've subscribed to but haven't spent the time in > getting to know it. Reaper has the reaper without peepers email list > with an access to a dropbox set of directories which has many > resources. I haven't accessed the dropbox archive for a few years now > but I got the impression it was updated regularly. > > Regards, > > > On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:13, JM Casey wrote: > > Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly > repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. > Search around and you should find some. > > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of DAVID > Sent: April 6, 2024 10:16 AM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and > beginner friendliness as a DAW? > > Hi. > I like using gold wave but where can I get some vst effect plugin > from > > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of JM Casey > Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:43 AM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and > beginner friendliness as a DAW? > > Hello. > > The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more > difficult to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a > fully fledged multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to > drive soft synths and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want > to do. Reaper is more demanding and pretty much assumes you have good > audio hardware right out of the box. It works with aseo (sp) and > Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, if you use a screen-reader, > it's bestif it is on its own audio output in windows. > Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio > processing -- one track at a time. It's not really made for music > production. But it can still use vst effect plugins. I have used it > for ages. Unfortunately I have had some trouble with the latest > versions, first with a keyboard command glitch (I consider it a > problem because even though there's a solution it's not really > documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a fair bit, > not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. > As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will > certainly have to take some time to study up, read documentation and > so on. It'll be more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you > are just starting out and not going to work with music production or > midi stuff, I would think goldwave would be an excellent tool. There's > also audacity of course, which is kind of somewhere in between Goldwave and > Reaper in terms of its' >
[all-audio] GoldWave Tutorials
I have uploaded an ASCII text of a tutorial, by John "Wilson, to sendspace.com. I have three others that are audio files and too large to put on the sendspace free. Anyone who can direct me where and how, I can share them with you. They were offerred on the internet at no cost by their creators; and I am assuming they can freely be shared. Howard Traxler mailto:htraxl...@gmail.com To get the one text file that is on sendspace, go to https://www.sendspace.com/file/s6y605 It's the John Wilson creation. John Wilson - GOLDWAVE 5 AUDIO EDITOR (text).zip (9.1 KB) On 4/6/2024 1:51 PM, Georgina Joyce M0EBP She / Her wrote: Hello Hamit, I was replying to this message: Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. Search around and you should find some. On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:36, Hamit Campos wrote: Yes but they are going to something else. Now they also have the Reaper Made Easy podcasts. But again Reaper is an actual DAW. Like ProTules Logic Sonar and so on and so on. What do you want to actually do? For speech only though $300 US there's even Studio Recorder of APH. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce M0EBP She / Her Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 2:25 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I haven't come across any Gold Wave resources. Audacity, someone set up a podcast, which I've subscribed to but haven't spent the time in getting to know it. Reaper has the reaper without peepers email list with an access to a dropbox set of directories which has many resources. I haven't accessed the dropbox archive for a few years now but I got the impression it was updated regularly. Regards, On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:13, JM Casey wrote: Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. Search around and you should find some. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of DAVID Sent: April 6, 2024 10:16 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hi. I like using gold wave but where can I get some vst effect plugin from -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:43 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello. The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more difficult to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a fully fledged multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to drive soft synths and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want to do. Reaper is more demanding and pretty much assumes you have good audio hardware right out of the box. It works with aseo (sp) and Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, if you use a screen-reader, it's bestif it is on its own audio output in windows. Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio processing -- one track at a time. It's not really made for music production. But it can still use vst effect plugins. I have used it for ages. Unfortunately I have had some trouble with the latest versions, first with a keyboard command glitch (I consider it a problem because even though there's a solution it's not really documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a fair bit, not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will certainly have to take some time to study up, read documentation and so on. It'll be more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you are just starting out and not going to work with music production or midi stuff, I would think goldwave would be an excellent tool. There's also audacity of course, which is kind of somewhere in between Goldwave and Reaper in terms of its' abilities. It has a weird interface that I think isn't much like most daw software, but that could actually be an advantage if you can't see the screen and haven't used any other ones. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: April 5, 2024 5:20 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I'm looking to get in to audio. I am wondering between Goldwave and Reaper (latest versions) which people prefer in terms of it's uaccessibility with a screen reader, beginner friendliness and ease of use? Also, were you using one product then switched to another? If so why? Thanks. Dave. -- Sent from Mozilla Thunderbird 91.13.1 Georgina Author of Efficient Brief Podcasts, designed to Empower Blind People to enjoy their hobb
Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW?
Hello, That would be great, thanks. Dave. On 4/6/2024 4:51 PM, Howard Traxler wrote: I have some of those old GW tutorials and possibly others. If anyone would like them, II'd be glad to post or attach them somehow. Howard On 4/6/2024 1:53 PM, JM Casey wrote: Not really out of date at all though -- not much has changed at all in many years, both in terms of goldwave and how audio editing works. Like I said above though I have had some annoyances with newer versions of Goldawve. Must ask one of the developers about the dictation mode business. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce M0EBP She / Her Sent: April 6, 2024 2:44 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I forgot, there was a set of free courses for GoldWave and Reaper by CAVI, very much out of date now but I mention them because getting started with audio is not seeking a DAW. The lectures for both DAWS were the same to start with. These lectures were on subjects such as; What is sound and how is it generated? How does a microphone work and what are the different types of microphone? What kinds of cables are required for audio production? What is an interface and which one do I need to get started? These are basic principles that are very important and I'd suggest an essential for getting into audio as it will save lots of head scratching and unnecessary waisted purchases. I just tried using my browser book mark and it appears that the domain has been pulled. Which is sad as the SD card that I had them stored died a few years ago. Regards, On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:25, Georgina Joyce M0EBP She / Her wrote: Hello, I haven't come across any Gold Wave resources. Audacity, someone set up a podcast, which I've subscribed to but haven't spent the time in getting to know it. Reaper has the reaper without peepers email list with an access to a dropbox set of directories which has many resources. I haven't accessed the dropbox archive for a few years now but I got the impression it was updated regularly. Regards, On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:13, JM Casey wrote: Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. Search around and you should find some. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of DAVID Sent: April 6, 2024 10:16 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hi. I like using gold wave but where can I get some vst effect plugin from -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:43 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello. The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more difficult to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a fully fledged multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to drive soft synths and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want to do. Reaper is more demanding and pretty much assumes you have good audio hardware right out of the box. It works with aseo (sp) and Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, if you use a screen-reader, it's bestif it is on its own audio output in windows. Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio processing -- one track at a time. It's not really made for music production. But it can still use vst effect plugins. I have used it for ages. Unfortunately I have had some trouble with the latest versions, first with a keyboard command glitch (I consider it a problem because even though there's a solution it's not really documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a fair bit, not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will certainly have to take some time to study up, read documentation and so on. It'll be more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you are just starting out and not going to work with music production or midi stuff, I would think goldwave would be an excellent tool. There's also audacity of course, which is kind of somewhere in between Goldwave and Reaper in terms of its' abilities. It has a weird interface that I think isn't much like most daw software, but that could actually be an advantage if you can't see the screen and haven't used any other ones. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: April 5, 2024 5:20 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I'm looking to get in to audio. I am wondering between Goldwave and Reaper (latest versions) which people prefer in terms o
Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW?
Put them up somewhere and people can retrieve them if they want. You won't be able to send them to the list but you could provide a link -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Howard Traxler Sent: April 6, 2024 4:51 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? I have some of those old GW tutorials and possibly others. If anyone would like them, II'd be glad to post or attach them somehow. Howard On 4/6/2024 1:53 PM, JM Casey wrote: > Not really out of date at all though -- not much has changed at all in > many years, both in terms of goldwave and how audio editing works. > Like I said above though I have had some annoyances with newer versions of > Goldawve. > Must ask one of the developers about the dictation mode business. > > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Georgina > Joyce M0EBP She / Her > Sent: April 6, 2024 2:44 PM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and > beginner friendliness as a DAW? > > Hello, > > I forgot, there was a set of free courses for GoldWave and Reaper by > CAVI, very much out of date now but I mention them because getting > started with audio is not seeking a DAW. The lectures for both DAWS > were the same to start with. These lectures were on subjects such as; > What is sound and how is it generated? > How does a microphone work and what are the different types of microphone? > What kinds of cables are required for audio production? > What is an interface and which one do I need to get started? > > These are basic principles that are very important and I'd suggest an > essential for getting into audio as it will save lots of head > scratching and unnecessary waisted purchases. > > I just tried using my browser book mark and it appears that the domain > has been pulled. Which is sad as the SD card that I had them stored > died a few years ago. > > Regards, > > > On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:25, Georgina Joyce M0EBP She / Her > > wrote: > > Hello, > > I haven't come across any Gold Wave resources. Audacity, someone set > up a podcast, which I've subscribed to but haven't spent the time in > getting to know it. Reaper has the reaper without peepers email list > with an access to a dropbox set of directories which has many > resources. I haven't accessed the dropbox archive for a few years now > but I got the impression it was updated regularly. > > Regards, > > > On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:13, JM Casey wrote: > > Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly > repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. > Search around and you should find some. > > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of DAVID > Sent: April 6, 2024 10:16 AM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and > beginner friendliness as a DAW? > > Hi. > I like using gold wave but where can I get some vst effect plugin > from > > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of JM Casey > Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:43 AM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and > beginner friendliness as a DAW? > > Hello. > > The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more > difficult to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a > fully fledged multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to > drive soft synths and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want > to do. Reaper is more demanding and pretty much assumes you have good > audio hardware right out of the box. It works with aseo (sp) and > Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, if you use a screen-reader, > it's bestif it is on its own audio output in windows. > Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio > processing -- one track at a time. It's not really made for music > production. But it can still use vst effect plugins. I have used it > for ages. Unfortunately I have had some trouble with the latest > versions, first with a keyboard command glitch (I consider it a > problem because even though there's a solution it's not really > documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a fair bit, > not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. > As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will > certainly have to take some time to study up, read documentation and > so on. It'll be more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you > are just starting out and not going to work with music production or > midi stuff, I would think goldwave would be an excellent tool. There's > also audacity of course, which is kind of somewhere in between Goldwave and > Reaper in terms of its' > abilities. It has a weird interface that I think isn't much like mo
Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW?
I have some of those old GW tutorials and possibly others. If anyone would like them, II'd be glad to post or attach them somehow. Howard On 4/6/2024 1:53 PM, JM Casey wrote: Not really out of date at all though -- not much has changed at all in many years, both in terms of goldwave and how audio editing works. Like I said above though I have had some annoyances with newer versions of Goldawve. Must ask one of the developers about the dictation mode business. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce M0EBP She / Her Sent: April 6, 2024 2:44 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I forgot, there was a set of free courses for GoldWave and Reaper by CAVI, very much out of date now but I mention them because getting started with audio is not seeking a DAW. The lectures for both DAWS were the same to start with. These lectures were on subjects such as; What is sound and how is it generated? How does a microphone work and what are the different types of microphone? What kinds of cables are required for audio production? What is an interface and which one do I need to get started? These are basic principles that are very important and I'd suggest an essential for getting into audio as it will save lots of head scratching and unnecessary waisted purchases. I just tried using my browser book mark and it appears that the domain has been pulled. Which is sad as the SD card that I had them stored died a few years ago. Regards, On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:25, Georgina Joyce M0EBP She / Her wrote: Hello, I haven't come across any Gold Wave resources. Audacity, someone set up a podcast, which I've subscribed to but haven't spent the time in getting to know it. Reaper has the reaper without peepers email list with an access to a dropbox set of directories which has many resources. I haven't accessed the dropbox archive for a few years now but I got the impression it was updated regularly. Regards, On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:13, JM Casey wrote: Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. Search around and you should find some. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of DAVID Sent: April 6, 2024 10:16 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hi. I like using gold wave but where can I get some vst effect plugin from -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:43 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello. The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more difficult to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a fully fledged multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to drive soft synths and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want to do. Reaper is more demanding and pretty much assumes you have good audio hardware right out of the box. It works with aseo (sp) and Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, if you use a screen-reader, it's bestif it is on its own audio output in windows. Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio processing -- one track at a time. It's not really made for music production. But it can still use vst effect plugins. I have used it for ages. Unfortunately I have had some trouble with the latest versions, first with a keyboard command glitch (I consider it a problem because even though there's a solution it's not really documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a fair bit, not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will certainly have to take some time to study up, read documentation and so on. It'll be more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you are just starting out and not going to work with music production or midi stuff, I would think goldwave would be an excellent tool. There's also audacity of course, which is kind of somewhere in between Goldwave and Reaper in terms of its' abilities. It has a weird interface that I think isn't much like most daw software, but that could actually be an advantage if you can't see the screen and haven't used any other ones. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: April 5, 2024 5:20 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I'm looking to get in to audio. I am wondering between Goldwave and Reaper (latest versions) which people prefer in terms of it's uaccessibility with a screen reader, beginner friendliness and ease of use? Also, were you using one product then swit
Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW?
The question was a tangenta bout VSTs, not instructional materials for Goldwave. The goldwave manual should set you straight though. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce M0EBP She / Her Sent: April 6, 2024 2:52 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello Hamit, I was replying to this message: Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. Search around and you should find some. On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:36, Hamit Campos wrote: Yes but they are going to something else. Now they also have the Reaper Made Easy podcasts. But again Reaper is an actual DAW. Like ProTules Logic Sonar and so on and so on. What do you want to actually do? For speech only though $300 US there's even Studio Recorder of APH. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce M0EBP She / Her Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 2:25 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I haven't come across any Gold Wave resources. Audacity, someone set up a podcast, which I've subscribed to but haven't spent the time in getting to know it. Reaper has the reaper without peepers email list with an access to a dropbox set of directories which has many resources. I haven't accessed the dropbox archive for a few years now but I got the impression it was updated regularly. Regards, On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:13, JM Casey wrote: Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. Search around and you should find some. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of DAVID Sent: April 6, 2024 10:16 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hi. I like using gold wave but where can I get some vst effect plugin from -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:43 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello. The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more difficult to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a fully fledged multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to drive soft synths and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want to do. Reaper is more demanding and pretty much assumes you have good audio hardware right out of the box. It works with aseo (sp) and Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, if you use a screen-reader, it's bestif it is on its own audio output in windows. Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio processing -- one track at a time. It's not really made for music production. But it can still use vst effect plugins. I have used it for ages. Unfortunately I have had some trouble with the latest versions, first with a keyboard command glitch (I consider it a problem because even though there's a solution it's not really documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a fair bit, not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will certainly have to take some time to study up, read documentation and so on. It'll be more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you are just starting out and not going to work with music production or midi stuff, I would think goldwave would be an excellent tool. There's also audacity of course, which is kind of somewhere in between Goldwave and Reaper in terms of its' abilities. It has a weird interface that I think isn't much like most daw software, but that could actually be an advantage if you can't see the screen and haven't used any other ones. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: April 5, 2024 5:20 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I'm looking to get in to audio. I am wondering between Goldwave and Reaper (latest versions) which people prefer in terms of it's uaccessibility with a screen reader, beginner friendliness and ease of use? Also, were you using one product then switched to another? If so why? Thanks. Dave. -- Sent from Mozilla Thunderbird 91.13.1 Georgina Author of Efficient Brief Podcasts, designed to Empower Blind People to enjoy their hobby! For radio accessible stuff for people living with sight loss visit: http://www.spencerweb.net/Downloads/downloads.html Don't forget the most valuable resource in the radio world! www.blindhams.com Why not Join us via AllStar Active Elements Bridg
Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW?
$300? Wow. What does this programme do that warrants such a price tag? -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: April 6, 2024 2:36 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Yes but they are going to something else. Now they also have the Reaper Made Easy podcasts. But again Reaper is an actual DAW. Like ProTules Logic Sonar and so on and so on. What do you want to actually do? For speech only though $300 US there's even Studio Recorder of APH. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce M0EBP She / Her Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 2:25 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I haven't come across any Gold Wave resources. Audacity, someone set up a podcast, which I've subscribed to but haven't spent the time in getting to know it. Reaper has the reaper without peepers email list with an access to a dropbox set of directories which has many resources. I haven't accessed the dropbox archive for a few years now but I got the impression it was updated regularly. Regards, On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:13, JM Casey wrote: Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. Search around and you should find some. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of DAVID Sent: April 6, 2024 10:16 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hi. I like using gold wave but where can I get some vst effect plugin from -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:43 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello. The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more difficult to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a fully fledged multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to drive soft synths and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want to do. Reaper is more demanding and pretty much assumes you have good audio hardware right out of the box. It works with aseo (sp) and Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, if you use a screen-reader, it's bestif it is on its own audio output in windows. Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio processing -- one track at a time. It's not really made for music production. But it can still use vst effect plugins. I have used it for ages. Unfortunately I have had some trouble with the latest versions, first with a keyboard command glitch (I consider it a problem because even though there's a solution it's not really documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a fair bit, not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will certainly have to take some time to study up, read documentation and so on. It'll be more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you are just starting out and not going to work with music production or midi stuff, I would think goldwave would be an excellent tool. There's also audacity of course, which is kind of somewhere in between Goldwave and Reaper in terms of its' abilities. It has a weird interface that I think isn't much like most daw software, but that could actually be an advantage if you can't see the screen and haven't used any other ones. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: April 5, 2024 5:20 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I'm looking to get in to audio. I am wondering between Goldwave and Reaper (latest versions) which people prefer in terms of it's uaccessibility with a screen reader, beginner friendliness and ease of use? Also, were you using one product then switched to another? If so why? Thanks. Dave. -- Sent from Mozilla Thunderbird 91.13.1 Georgina Author of Efficient Brief Podcasts, designed to Empower Blind People to enjoy their hobby! For radio accessible stuff for people living with sight loss visit: http://www.spencerweb.net/Downloads/downloads.html Don't forget the most valuable resource in the radio world! www.blindhams.com Why not Join us via AllStar Active Elements Bridge 56870 Blind Hams 506313 or via phone app 50617 Personal Radio Contact info: Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Allstar: 521780 52340 Locater: IO83PS -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#4659): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/4659 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/10
Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW?
Not really out of date at all though -- not much has changed at all in many years, both in terms of goldwave and how audio editing works. Like I said above though I have had some annoyances with newer versions of Goldawve. Must ask one of the developers about the dictation mode business. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce M0EBP She / Her Sent: April 6, 2024 2:44 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I forgot, there was a set of free courses for GoldWave and Reaper by CAVI, very much out of date now but I mention them because getting started with audio is not seeking a DAW. The lectures for both DAWS were the same to start with. These lectures were on subjects such as; What is sound and how is it generated? How does a microphone work and what are the different types of microphone? What kinds of cables are required for audio production? What is an interface and which one do I need to get started? These are basic principles that are very important and I'd suggest an essential for getting into audio as it will save lots of head scratching and unnecessary waisted purchases. I just tried using my browser book mark and it appears that the domain has been pulled. Which is sad as the SD card that I had them stored died a few years ago. Regards, On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:25, Georgina Joyce M0EBP She / Her wrote: Hello, I haven't come across any Gold Wave resources. Audacity, someone set up a podcast, which I've subscribed to but haven't spent the time in getting to know it. Reaper has the reaper without peepers email list with an access to a dropbox set of directories which has many resources. I haven't accessed the dropbox archive for a few years now but I got the impression it was updated regularly. Regards, On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:13, JM Casey wrote: Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. Search around and you should find some. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of DAVID Sent: April 6, 2024 10:16 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hi. I like using gold wave but where can I get some vst effect plugin from -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:43 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello. The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more difficult to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a fully fledged multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to drive soft synths and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want to do. Reaper is more demanding and pretty much assumes you have good audio hardware right out of the box. It works with aseo (sp) and Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, if you use a screen-reader, it's bestif it is on its own audio output in windows. Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio processing -- one track at a time. It's not really made for music production. But it can still use vst effect plugins. I have used it for ages. Unfortunately I have had some trouble with the latest versions, first with a keyboard command glitch (I consider it a problem because even though there's a solution it's not really documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a fair bit, not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will certainly have to take some time to study up, read documentation and so on. It'll be more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you are just starting out and not going to work with music production or midi stuff, I would think goldwave would be an excellent tool. There's also audacity of course, which is kind of somewhere in between Goldwave and Reaper in terms of its' abilities. It has a weird interface that I think isn't much like most daw software, but that could actually be an advantage if you can't see the screen and haven't used any other ones. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: April 5, 2024 5:20 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I'm looking to get in to audio. I am wondering between Goldwave and Reaper (latest versions) which people prefer in terms of it's uaccessibility with a screen reader, beginner friendliness and ease of use? Also, were you using one product then switched to another? If so why? Thanks. Dave. -- Sent from Mozilla Thunderbird 91.13.1 Georgina Author of Efficient Brief Podcasts, designed to Empower Blind
Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW?
Hello Hamit, I was replying to this message: Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. Search around and you should find some. On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:36, Hamit Campos wrote: Yes but they are going to something else. Now they also have the Reaper Made Easy podcasts. But again Reaper is an actual DAW. Like ProTules Logic Sonar and so on and so on. What do you want to actually do? For speech only though $300 US there's even Studio Recorder of APH. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce M0EBP She / Her Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 2:25 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I haven't come across any Gold Wave resources. Audacity, someone set up a podcast, which I've subscribed to but haven't spent the time in getting to know it. Reaper has the reaper without peepers email list with an access to a dropbox set of directories which has many resources. I haven't accessed the dropbox archive for a few years now but I got the impression it was updated regularly. Regards, On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:13, JM Casey wrote: Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. Search around and you should find some. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of DAVID Sent: April 6, 2024 10:16 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hi. I like using gold wave but where can I get some vst effect plugin from -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:43 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello. The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more difficult to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a fully fledged multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to drive soft synths and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want to do. Reaper is more demanding and pretty much assumes you have good audio hardware right out of the box. It works with aseo (sp) and Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, if you use a screen-reader, it's bestif it is on its own audio output in windows. Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio processing -- one track at a time. It's not really made for music production. But it can still use vst effect plugins. I have used it for ages. Unfortunately I have had some trouble with the latest versions, first with a keyboard command glitch (I consider it a problem because even though there's a solution it's not really documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a fair bit, not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will certainly have to take some time to study up, read documentation and so on. It'll be more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you are just starting out and not going to work with music production or midi stuff, I would think goldwave would be an excellent tool. There's also audacity of course, which is kind of somewhere in between Goldwave and Reaper in terms of its' abilities. It has a weird interface that I think isn't much like most daw software, but that could actually be an advantage if you can't see the screen and haven't used any other ones. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: April 5, 2024 5:20 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I'm looking to get in to audio. I am wondering between Goldwave and Reaper (latest versions) which people prefer in terms of it's uaccessibility with a screen reader, beginner friendliness and ease of use? Also, were you using one product then switched to another? If so why? Thanks. Dave. -- Sent from Mozilla Thunderbird 91.13.1 Georgina Author of Efficient Brief Podcasts, designed to Empower Blind People to enjoy their hobby! For radio accessible stuff for people living with sight loss visit: http://www.spencerweb.net/Downloads/downloads.html Don't forget the most valuable resource in the radio world! www.blindhams.com Why not Join us via AllStar Active Elements Bridge 56870 Blind Hams 506313 or via phone app 50617 Personal Radio Contact info: Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Allstar: 521780 52340 Locater: IO83PS Georgina Author of Efficient Brief Podcasts, designed to Empower Blind People to enjoy their hobby! For radio accessible stuff for people living with sight loss visit: http://www.spencerweb.net/Downloads/downloads.html
Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW?
Hello, No, just answering the subject. On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:34, JM Casey wrote: VST effects plugins are not goldwave specific. Goldwave is just able to use them, or many of them at least. VST is supposed to be cross-platform, and any programme that is VST capable will work with them, including gw. Not sure if you were directly replying to my message though? What sort of resources did you have in mind? -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce M0EBP She / Her Sent: April 6, 2024 2:25 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I haven't come across any Gold Wave resources. Audacity, someone set up a podcast, which I've subscribed to but haven't spent the time in getting to know it. Reaper has the reaper without peepers email list with an access to a dropbox set of directories which has many resources. I haven't accessed the dropbox archive for a few years now but I got the impression it was updated regularly. Regards, On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:13, JM Casey wrote: Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. Search around and you should find some. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of DAVID Sent: April 6, 2024 10:16 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hi. I like using gold wave but where can I get some vst effect plugin from -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:43 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello. The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more difficult to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a fully fledged multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to drive soft synths and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want to do. Reaper is more demanding and pretty much assumes you have good audio hardware right out of the box. It works with aseo (sp) and Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, if you use a screen-reader, it's bestif it is on its own audio output in windows. Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio processing -- one track at a time. It's not really made for music production. But it can still use vst effect plugins. I have used it for ages. Unfortunately I have had some trouble with the latest versions, first with a keyboard command glitch (I consider it a problem because even though there's a solution it's not really documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a fair bit, not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will certainly have to take some time to study up, read documentation and so on. It'll be more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you are just starting out and not going to work with music production or midi stuff, I would think goldwave would be an excellent tool. There's also audacity of course, which is kind of somewhere in between Goldwave and Reaper in terms of its' abilities. It has a weird interface that I think isn't much like most daw software, but that could actually be an advantage if you can't see the screen and haven't used any other ones. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: April 5, 2024 5:20 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I'm looking to get in to audio. I am wondering between Goldwave and Reaper (latest versions) which people prefer in terms of it's uaccessibility with a screen reader, beginner friendliness and ease of use? Also, were you using one product then switched to another? If so why? Thanks. Dave. -- Sent from Mozilla Thunderbird 91.13.1 Georgina Author of Efficient Brief Podcasts, designed to Empower Blind People to enjoy their hobby! For radio accessible stuff for people living with sight loss visit: http://www.spencerweb.net/Downloads/downloads.html Don't forget the most valuable resource in the radio world! www.blindhams.com Why not Join us via AllStar Active Elements Bridge 56870 Blind Hams 506313 or via phone app 50617 Personal Radio Contact info: Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Allstar: 521780 52340 Locater: IO83PS Georgina Author of Efficient Brief Podcasts, designed to Empower Blind People to enjoy their hobby! For radio accessible stuff for people living with sight loss visit: http://www.spencerweb.net/Downloads/downloads.html Don't forget the most valuable resource in the radio world! www.blindhams.com Why not Join us via AllStar Active Elements Bridge 56870 Blind Hams 506
Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW?
Hello, I forgot, there was a set of free courses for GoldWave and Reaper by CAVI, very much out of date now but I mention them because getting started with audio is not seeking a DAW. The lectures for both DAWS were the same to start with. These lectures were on subjects such as; What is sound and how is it generated? How does a microphone work and what are the different types of microphone? What kinds of cables are required for audio production? What is an interface and which one do I need to get started? These are basic principles that are very important and I'd suggest an essential for getting into audio as it will save lots of head scratching and unnecessary waisted purchases. I just tried using my browser book mark and it appears that the domain has been pulled. Which is sad as the SD card that I had them stored died a few years ago. Regards, On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:25, Georgina Joyce M0EBP She / Her wrote: Hello, I haven't come across any Gold Wave resources. Audacity, someone set up a podcast, which I've subscribed to but haven't spent the time in getting to know it. Reaper has the reaper without peepers email list with an access to a dropbox set of directories which has many resources. I haven't accessed the dropbox archive for a few years now but I got the impression it was updated regularly. Regards, On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:13, JM Casey wrote: Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. Search around and you should find some. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of DAVID Sent: April 6, 2024 10:16 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hi. I like using gold wave but where can I get some vst effect plugin from -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:43 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello. The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more difficult to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a fully fledged multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to drive soft synths and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want to do. Reaper is more demanding and pretty much assumes you have good audio hardware right out of the box. It works with aseo (sp) and Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, if you use a screen-reader, it's bestif it is on its own audio output in windows. Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio processing -- one track at a time. It's not really made for music production. But it can still use vst effect plugins. I have used it for ages. Unfortunately I have had some trouble with the latest versions, first with a keyboard command glitch (I consider it a problem because even though there's a solution it's not really documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a fair bit, not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will certainly have to take some time to study up, read documentation and so on. It'll be more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you are just starting out and not going to work with music production or midi stuff, I would think goldwave would be an excellent tool. There's also audacity of course, which is kind of somewhere in between Goldwave and Reaper in terms of its' abilities. It has a weird interface that I think isn't much like most daw software, but that could actually be an advantage if you can't see the screen and haven't used any other ones. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: April 5, 2024 5:20 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I'm looking to get in to audio. I am wondering between Goldwave and Reaper (latest versions) which people prefer in terms of it's uaccessibility with a screen reader, beginner friendliness and ease of use? Also, were you using one product then switched to another? If so why? Thanks. Dave. -- Sent from Mozilla Thunderbird 91.13.1 Georgina Author of Efficient Brief Podcasts, designed to Empower Blind People to enjoy their hobby! For radio accessible stuff for people living with sight loss visit: http://www.spencerweb.net/Downloads/downloads.html Don't forget the most valuable resource in the radio world! www.blindhams.com Why not Join us via AllStar Active Elements Bridge 56870 Blind Hams 506313 or via phone app 50617 Personal Radio Contact info: Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Allstar: 521780 52340 Locater: IO83PS Georgina Author of Efficient Brief Podcasts, designed to Empower
Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW?
Yes but they are going to something else. Now they also have the Reaper Made Easy podcasts. But again Reaper is an actual DAW. Like ProTules Logic Sonar and so on and so on. What do you want to actually do? For speech only though $300 US there's even Studio Recorder of APH. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce M0EBP She / Her Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 2:25 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I haven't come across any Gold Wave resources. Audacity, someone set up a podcast, which I've subscribed to but haven't spent the time in getting to know it. Reaper has the reaper without peepers email list with an access to a dropbox set of directories which has many resources. I haven't accessed the dropbox archive for a few years now but I got the impression it was updated regularly. Regards, On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:13, JM Casey wrote: Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. Search around and you should find some. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of DAVID Sent: April 6, 2024 10:16 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hi. I like using gold wave but where can I get some vst effect plugin from -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:43 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello. The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more difficult to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a fully fledged multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to drive soft synths and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want to do. Reaper is more demanding and pretty much assumes you have good audio hardware right out of the box. It works with aseo (sp) and Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, if you use a screen-reader, it's bestif it is on its own audio output in windows. Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio processing -- one track at a time. It's not really made for music production. But it can still use vst effect plugins. I have used it for ages. Unfortunately I have had some trouble with the latest versions, first with a keyboard command glitch (I consider it a problem because even though there's a solution it's not really documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a fair bit, not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will certainly have to take some time to study up, read documentation and so on. It'll be more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you are just starting out and not going to work with music production or midi stuff, I would think goldwave would be an excellent tool. There's also audacity of course, which is kind of somewhere in between Goldwave and Reaper in terms of its' abilities. It has a weird interface that I think isn't much like most daw software, but that could actually be an advantage if you can't see the screen and haven't used any other ones. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: April 5, 2024 5:20 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I'm looking to get in to audio. I am wondering between Goldwave and Reaper (latest versions) which people prefer in terms of it's uaccessibility with a screen reader, beginner friendliness and ease of use? Also, were you using one product then switched to another? If so why? Thanks. Dave. -- Sent from Mozilla Thunderbird 91.13.1 Georgina Author of Efficient Brief Podcasts, designed to Empower Blind People to enjoy their hobby! For radio accessible stuff for people living with sight loss visit: http://www.spencerweb.net/Downloads/downloads.html Don't forget the most valuable resource in the radio world! www.blindhams.com Why not Join us via AllStar Active Elements Bridge 56870 Blind Hams 506313 or via phone app 50617 Personal Radio Contact info: Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Allstar: 521780 52340 Locater: IO83PS -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#4654): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/4654 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/105357537/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/21656/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW?
VST effects plugins are not goldwave specific. Goldwave is just able to use them, or many of them at least. VST is supposed to be cross-platform, and any programme that is VST capable will work with them, including gw. Not sure if you were directly replying to my message though? What sort of resources did you have in mind? -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce M0EBP She / Her Sent: April 6, 2024 2:25 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I haven't come across any Gold Wave resources. Audacity, someone set up a podcast, which I've subscribed to but haven't spent the time in getting to know it. Reaper has the reaper without peepers email list with an access to a dropbox set of directories which has many resources. I haven't accessed the dropbox archive for a few years now but I got the impression it was updated regularly. Regards, On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:13, JM Casey wrote: Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. Search around and you should find some. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of DAVID Sent: April 6, 2024 10:16 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hi. I like using gold wave but where can I get some vst effect plugin from -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:43 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello. The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more difficult to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a fully fledged multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to drive soft synths and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want to do. Reaper is more demanding and pretty much assumes you have good audio hardware right out of the box. It works with aseo (sp) and Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, if you use a screen-reader, it's bestif it is on its own audio output in windows. Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio processing -- one track at a time. It's not really made for music production. But it can still use vst effect plugins. I have used it for ages. Unfortunately I have had some trouble with the latest versions, first with a keyboard command glitch (I consider it a problem because even though there's a solution it's not really documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a fair bit, not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will certainly have to take some time to study up, read documentation and so on. It'll be more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you are just starting out and not going to work with music production or midi stuff, I would think goldwave would be an excellent tool. There's also audacity of course, which is kind of somewhere in between Goldwave and Reaper in terms of its' abilities. It has a weird interface that I think isn't much like most daw software, but that could actually be an advantage if you can't see the screen and haven't used any other ones. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: April 5, 2024 5:20 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I'm looking to get in to audio. I am wondering between Goldwave and Reaper (latest versions) which people prefer in terms of it's uaccessibility with a screen reader, beginner friendliness and ease of use? Also, were you using one product then switched to another? If so why? Thanks. Dave. -- Sent from Mozilla Thunderbird 91.13.1 Georgina Author of Efficient Brief Podcasts, designed to Empower Blind People to enjoy their hobby! For radio accessible stuff for people living with sight loss visit: http://www.spencerweb.net/Downloads/downloads.html Don't forget the most valuable resource in the radio world! www.blindhams.com Why not Join us via AllStar Active Elements Bridge 56870 Blind Hams 506313 or via phone app 50617 Personal Radio Contact info: Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Allstar: 521780 52340 Locater: IO83PS -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#4653): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/4653 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/105357537/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/21656/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW?
Hello, I haven't come across any Gold Wave resources. Audacity, someone set up a podcast, which I've subscribed to but haven't spent the time in getting to know it. Reaper has the reaper without peepers email list with an access to a dropbox set of directories which has many resources. I haven't accessed the dropbox archive for a few years now but I got the impression it was updated regularly. Regards, On 6 Apr 2024, at 19:13, JM Casey wrote: Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. Search around and you should find some. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of DAVID Sent: April 6, 2024 10:16 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hi. I like using gold wave but where can I get some vst effect plugin from -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:43 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello. The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more difficult to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a fully fledged multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to drive soft synths and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want to do. Reaper is more demanding and pretty much assumes you have good audio hardware right out of the box. It works with aseo (sp) and Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, if you use a screen-reader, it's bestif it is on its own audio output in windows. Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio processing -- one track at a time. It's not really made for music production. But it can still use vst effect plugins. I have used it for ages. Unfortunately I have had some trouble with the latest versions, first with a keyboard command glitch (I consider it a problem because even though there's a solution it's not really documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a fair bit, not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will certainly have to take some time to study up, read documentation and so on. It'll be more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you are just starting out and not going to work with music production or midi stuff, I would think goldwave would be an excellent tool. There's also audacity of course, which is kind of somewhere in between Goldwave and Reaper in terms of its' abilities. It has a weird interface that I think isn't much like most daw software, but that could actually be an advantage if you can't see the screen and haven't used any other ones. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: April 5, 2024 5:20 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I'm looking to get in to audio. I am wondering between Goldwave and Reaper (latest versions) which people prefer in terms of it's uaccessibility with a screen reader, beginner friendliness and ease of use? Also, were you using one product then switched to another? If so why? Thanks. Dave. -- Sent from Mozilla Thunderbird 91.13.1 Georgina Author of Efficient Brief Podcasts, designed to Empower Blind People to enjoy their hobby! For radio accessible stuff for people living with sight loss visit: http://www.spencerweb.net/Downloads/downloads.html Don't forget the most valuable resource in the radio world! www.blindhams.com Why not Join us via AllStar Active Elements Bridge 56870 Blind Hams 506313 or via phone app 50617 Personal Radio Contact info: Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Allstar: 521780 52340 Locater: IO83PS -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#4652): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/4652 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/105357537/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/21656/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW?
Don't remember anything offhand right now, but there are certainly repositories of free vsts, as well as placed to purcahse others, online. Search around and you should find some. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of DAVID Sent: April 6, 2024 10:16 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hi. I like using gold wave but where can I get some vst effect plugin from -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:43 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello. The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more difficult to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a fully fledged multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to drive soft synths and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want to do. Reaper is more demanding and pretty much assumes you have good audio hardware right out of the box. It works with aseo (sp) and Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, if you use a screen-reader, it's bestif it is on its own audio output in windows. Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio processing -- one track at a time. It's not really made for music production. But it can still use vst effect plugins. I have used it for ages. Unfortunately I have had some trouble with the latest versions, first with a keyboard command glitch (I consider it a problem because even though there's a solution it's not really documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a fair bit, not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will certainly have to take some time to study up, read documentation and so on. It'll be more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you are just starting out and not going to work with music production or midi stuff, I would think goldwave would be an excellent tool. There's also audacity of course, which is kind of somewhere in between Goldwave and Reaper in terms of its' abilities. It has a weird interface that I think isn't much like most daw software, but that could actually be an advantage if you can't see the screen and haven't used any other ones. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: April 5, 2024 5:20 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I'm looking to get in to audio. I am wondering between Goldwave and Reaper (latest versions) which people prefer in terms of it's uaccessibility with a screen reader, beginner friendliness and ease of use? Also, were you using one product then switched to another? If so why? Thanks. Dave. -- Sent from Mozilla Thunderbird 91.13.1 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#4651): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/4651 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/105357537/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/21656/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW?
Hey. Yes, audacity is a multitrack editor. Your main work area is a project, not just a sound file, and you can work with multiple objects within the project. That is something a little closer to Reaper in theory than to Goldwave. But I don't think Audacity can handle vst instruments or has a midi sequencer or anything like that. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of Howard Traxler Sent: April 6, 2024 1:24 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Wondering if audacity has multiple tracks? Would it make a good alternate choice as an editor? Thanks. Howard On 4/6/2024 9:15 AM, DAVID wrote: > Hi. > I like using gold wave but where can I get some vst effect plugin > from > > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of JM Casey > Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:43 AM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner > friendliness as a DAW? > > Hello. > > The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more difficult > to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a fully fledged > multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to drive soft synths > and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want to do. Reaper is more > demanding and pretty much assumes you have good audio hardware right out of > the box. It works with aseo (sp) and Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, > if you use a screen-reader, it's bestif it is on its own audio output in > windows. > Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio processing -- > one track at a time. It's not really made for music production. But it can > still use vst effect plugins. I have used it for ages. Unfortunately I have > had some trouble with the latest versions, first with a keyboard command > glitch (I consider it a problem because even though there's a solution it's > not really documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a > fair bit, not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. > As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will certainly > have to take some time to study up, read documentation and so on. It'll be > more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you are just starting out and > not going to work with music production or midi stuff, I would think goldwave > would be an excellent tool. There's also audacity of course, which is kind of > somewhere in between Goldwave and Reaper in terms of its' abilities. It has a > weird interface that I think isn't much like most daw software, but that > could actually be an advantage if you can't see the screen and haven't used > any other ones. > > > -Original Message- > From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of David > Mehler > Sent: April 5, 2024 5:20 PM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner > friendliness as a DAW? > > Hello, > > I'm looking to get in to audio. I am wondering between Goldwave and Reaper > (latest versions) which people prefer in terms of it's uaccessibility with a > screen reader, beginner friendliness and ease of use? Also, were you using > one product then switched to another? If so why? > > Thanks. > Dave. > > -- > Sent from Mozilla Thunderbird 91.13.1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- What a day may bring, a day may take away. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#4650): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/4650 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/105357537/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/21656/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW?
Wondering if audacity has multiple tracks? Would it make a good alternate choice as an editor? Thanks. Howard On 4/6/2024 9:15 AM, DAVID wrote: Hi. I like using gold wave but where can I get some vst effect plugin from -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:43 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello. The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more difficult to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a fully fledged multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to drive soft synths and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want to do. Reaper is more demanding and pretty much assumes you have good audio hardware right out of the box. It works with aseo (sp) and Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, if you use a screen-reader, it's bestif it is on its own audio output in windows. Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio processing -- one track at a time. It's not really made for music production. But it can still use vst effect plugins. I have used it for ages. Unfortunately I have had some trouble with the latest versions, first with a keyboard command glitch (I consider it a problem because even though there's a solution it's not really documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a fair bit, not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will certainly have to take some time to study up, read documentation and so on. It'll be more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you are just starting out and not going to work with music production or midi stuff, I would think goldwave would be an excellent tool. There's also audacity of course, which is kind of somewhere in between Goldwave and Reaper in terms of its' abilities. It has a weird interface that I think isn't much like most daw software, but that could actually be an advantage if you can't see the screen and haven't used any other ones. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: April 5, 2024 5:20 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I'm looking to get in to audio. I am wondering between Goldwave and Reaper (latest versions) which people prefer in terms of it's uaccessibility with a screen reader, beginner friendliness and ease of use? Also, were you using one product then switched to another? If so why? Thanks. Dave. -- Sent from Mozilla Thunderbird 91.13.1 -- What a day may bring, a day may take away. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#4649): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/4649 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/105357537/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/21656/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW?
Hi. I like using gold wave but where can I get some vst effect plugin from -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:43 AM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello. The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more difficult to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a fully fledged multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to drive soft synths and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want to do. Reaper is more demanding and pretty much assumes you have good audio hardware right out of the box. It works with aseo (sp) and Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, if you use a screen-reader, it's bestif it is on its own audio output in windows. Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio processing -- one track at a time. It's not really made for music production. But it can still use vst effect plugins. I have used it for ages. Unfortunately I have had some trouble with the latest versions, first with a keyboard command glitch (I consider it a problem because even though there's a solution it's not really documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a fair bit, not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will certainly have to take some time to study up, read documentation and so on. It'll be more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you are just starting out and not going to work with music production or midi stuff, I would think goldwave would be an excellent tool. There's also audacity of course, which is kind of somewhere in between Goldwave and Reaper in terms of its' abilities. It has a weird interface that I think isn't much like most daw software, but that could actually be an advantage if you can't see the screen and haven't used any other ones. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: April 5, 2024 5:20 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I'm looking to get in to audio. I am wondering between Goldwave and Reaper (latest versions) which people prefer in terms of it's uaccessibility with a screen reader, beginner friendliness and ease of use? Also, were you using one product then switched to another? If so why? Thanks. Dave. -- Sent from Mozilla Thunderbird 91.13.1 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#4648): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/4648 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/105357537/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/21656/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW?
Hello. The two programmes are not exactly equivalents. Reaper is much more difficult to use, but it's also a more versatile programme that is a fully fledged multi-track recorder, editor, and you can even use it to drive soft synths and do midi. So it al depends on what it is you want to do. Reaper is more demanding and pretty much assumes you have good audio hardware right out of the box. It works with aseo (sp) and Goldwave doesn't, but that also means, if you use a screen-reader, it's bestif it is on its own audio output in windows. Goldwave is a great programme that can do all sorts of audio processing -- one track at a time. It's not really made for music production. But it can still use vst effect plugins. I have used it for ages. Unfortunately I have had some trouble with the latest versions, first with a keyboard command glitch (I consider it a problem because even though there's a solution it's not really documented anywhere I can see), and dictation mode, which I use a fair bit, not working. Still, you can get an older version if you want. As for usability with a screen-reader, they both are, but you will certainly have to take some time to study up, read documentation and so on. It'll be more of a long haul with reaper for sure, so if you are just starting out and not going to work with music production or midi stuff, I would think goldwave would be an excellent tool. There's also audacity of course, which is kind of somewhere in between Goldwave and Reaper in terms of its' abilities. It has a weird interface that I think isn't much like most daw software, but that could actually be an advantage if you can't see the screen and haven't used any other ones. -Original Message- From: all-audio@groups.io On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: April 5, 2024 5:20 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: [all-audio] Goldwave or Reaper Accessibility, and beginner friendliness as a DAW? Hello, I'm looking to get in to audio. I am wondering between Goldwave and Reaper (latest versions) which people prefer in terms of it's uaccessibility with a screen reader, beginner friendliness and ease of use? Also, were you using one product then switched to another? If so why? Thanks. Dave. -- Sent from Mozilla Thunderbird 91.13.1 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#4647): https://groups.io/g/all-audio/message/4647 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/105357537/21656 Group Owner: all-audio+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/all-audio/leave/1074140/21656/405281159/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
