[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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--- Additional comments from n...@openoffice.org Sat Jan 10 20:18:30 + 
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Re: Phil

>>>
"However for other users it might be a problem. Imagine someone doing deletions
to his document that he wants to revoke. What if the document was autosaved?
Then he couldn't revoke the changes (unless he has a backup copy).
If an autosave to a separate file is made (like it is implemented now), then the
user just has to close the document without saving it, allowing him to get back
the original document version."
<<<

I suggest that user should use a versioning tool then. From a writer tool, I
primarily expect it to let me write and save my progress, however that progress
may look. If I want to choose from revisions and have the capability to revert
stuff, I use SVN. I don't expect a word processor to ramp up versioning
capabilities, how primitive they might every be. Seperation of Concerns please.

(Thanks for fixing this anyways.)

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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(Feeling better now.)

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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--- Additional comments from ph...@openoffice.org Wed Jan  7 08:26:55 + 
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I absolutely agree to steveorg.

Furthermore, the features in OOo do fullfill the same as an autosave function,
however it is defect in version 3.0.0.
Use version 2.4.2 and you are fine.
This function saves to a separate file, and can be recovered without problems
with the autorecovery function.

A simple autosave may be fine for some users.
However for other users it might be a problem. Imagine someone doing deletions
to his document that he wants to revoke. What if the document was autosaved?
Then he couldn't revoke the changes (unless he has a backup copy).
If an autosave to a separate file is made (like it is implemented now), then the
user just has to close the document without saving it, allowing him to get back
the original document version.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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--- Additional comments from steve...@openoffice.org Fri Dec 26 14:35:16 
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Luisdlc - Your complaint is inappropriate on so many levels. First off - this is
a thread about fixing a specific problem. Yours is a totally different issue,
which belongs on the forum. However, the fact that is a complaint and not a
polite "How do I...?" or "Wouldn't it be nice to have a feature that...?" type
of question is beyond me. This is free software supported by volunteers. Its not
a situation where you paid for a feature that wasn't delivered. You come across
as the type of person that yells at waiters and kicks dogs.

You also seem to be the kind of person that expects everything to be done for
them. How about learning how to use features out of your comfort zone? I'm very
new to OOO, but it took me about 10 minutes to figure out how to put together a
script that accomplishes your needs by first recording a save macro and then
going to the documentation to find the control statements. Run it once every
time you load a document that you want autosaved. Here it is:

sub AutoSave
rem --
rem Run this macro for any document that needs an autosave

rem --
rem Set Wait variable to your frequency preference. Use milliseconds. 
rem Examples: 10 minutes = 60  2 minutes = 12
nextSave: wait 30

rem --
rem define variables
dim document   as object
dim dispatcher as object

rem --
rem get access to the document
document   = ThisComponent.CurrentController.Frame
dispatcher = createUnoService("com.sun.star.frame.DispatchHelper")

rem --
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, ".uno:Save", "", 0, Array())

GoTo nextSave

end sub

However, I don't recommend using it. As you said, it is a "primitive" feature.
The point of autorecover is to provide the choice of keeping or rejecting edits.
With autosave, you are always committed to changes and you can lose important
work. If all you do is create or edit documents without thinking about the
implications to what existed before, then your work is probably as thoughtless
as your complaint.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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--- Additional comments from luis...@openoffice.org Thu Dec 25 18:31:15 
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Lets point out something very BASIC:

AUTO SAVE is one thing, and AUTORECOVERY is another and is garbage.

The MOST basic and SIMPLE feature: an AUTOSAVE, is simply non existent in this 
software. All that is needed is a NORMAL autosave. That 
works JUST as if you where clicking the damn 3.5" diskette icon every N minutes.

AND NO, THE AUTORECOVERY IS NOT COVERING that need.

HOW HARD can it be to just ADD an AUTOSAVE function? If the autorecovery is to 
remain in the software, for the love of god, add a parallel, independent, 
redundant, WHATEVER, but add a proper autosave function.

REALLY how hard can it be, to set an option for every n minutes the program to 
SAVE, no, not to autorecovery save, or save recovery info whatever or any of the
sort, JUST SAVE, normally and PRIMITIVELY SAVE the document?!

Even in the prehistoric times when WORDPERFECT ruled the keyboards, there was a 
SIMPLE but RELIABLE auto save function, that did just that SAVE THE DAMN 
DOCUMENT every N minutes. But lightyears from there, now in the bright future 
of open source, what do we have? autorecovery info something that does not work
at all.

You want to develop some sort of "recovery" technology, hey that's ok, but why 
to deprive the users from a SIMPLE autosave?!

Hey the "save back up copy" option is there right? I don't know who finds that 
useful but COOL, is an option, there, available. WHERE IS MY F*CKING AUTO SAVE?

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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--- Additional comments from forfsa...@openoffice.org Thu Dec 18 16:52:18 
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Yeah I agree,  a warning would have been nice.

Without getting into details,  this issue has cost me over 10k.  

I would have never used the program if i knew auto-save did not work.

I had it set to every 1 minute for a good reason.



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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Dec  9 09:01:45 + 
2008 ---
Maybe a warning for defects like this should be mailed to all users, I'm now
getting a newsletter with no information of particular interest to me, and I
often get a mail announcing the new version that I've already installed. So I
don't really need them. But a warning for a bug that can lose me my work would
be much more appreciated.
I'm a volunteer in the old and new community forum and the problem pops up in
both. It's not nice to have to tell people that they lost their work because of
a known bug.

Thank you.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 26 08:01:20 + 
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A "hotfix", or however you call it, would technically be possible, with
different levels of convenience for the user. Finally, it would only require the
fixed library to be placed somewhere for download.

However, OpenOffice.org, to my best knowledge, did never release hotfixes in the
past. The general politics is to point people to the upcoming micro release
(3.0.1 in this case), which contains fixes for the urgent problems.

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which you should subscribe and send your request to.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 26 07:51:54 + 
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@noop: I am not developer either. :-)
As to my understanding, the software structure does not allow hotfixes.
Even if it is a very small change in code, a recompilation is needed which
cannot be replaced by a hotfix.

Maybe someone with a better knowledge can explain the situation more accurately.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 25 18:56:52 + 
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[Version]
AllLanguages=en-US
buildid=300m12(Build:9368)
OOOBaseVersion=3.0
ProductBuildid=9368
ProductMajor=300
ProductMinor=12
ProductSource=OOO300
UpdateID=OOo-dev_3_en-US
OOo-Dev_OOO300_m12_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz  150209 KB  
11/20/2008  03:35:00 PM

Confirmed as 'Works For Me' on linux (Ubuntu 8.04.1).

@Phil: Regarding no hotfix; the diff files show a relatively minor change:

so would a 'hotfix' not be possible? 

Note: I'm a 'user' rather than a developer so I have no clue as to what such a
'hotfix' would require. However, given the importance of this fix (from
complaints on the user mailing lists) could a possible 'hotfix' be reviewed? 

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 25 11:08:17 + 
2008 ---
There will not be a hot fix for this.

You need to wait for release 3.0.1 which is planned for January:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease301

You could also use the developer snapshot, which includes the fix:
http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/new_ooo_dev_3_025
However, this entails the risk of other problems, as this is not a release 
version.

As a workaround, you can manually save regularly.
Or you go back to version 2.4.2

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 25 10:57:32 + 
2008 ---
Hi,
I agree with "orwel", this is a very annoying problem. I already lost my work a
few times and so I want th get rid of this bug. Is there a hotfix available
(e.g. by changing a specified file?

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 25 10:27:45 + 
2008 ---
Hi
I´ve just installed the official OO 3.0.0 relase from
http://download.openoffice.org/index.html and the AUTORECOVERY function still
does not work (e. g. if you kill the proces in Task manager in XP). This bug
should be repaired as soon as possible due OO3 was officially released and this
bug cause data-lost!

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 11 11:10:07 + 
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Checked and verified in cws fix30autorecovery -> OK !

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Oct 28 20:23:36 + 
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fixed in CWS fix30autorecovery

find more information about this CWS, like when it is available in the master
builds, in EIS, the Environment Information System:
http://eis.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/cws.ShowCWS?Path=DEV300%2Ffix30autorecovery

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

[fs]

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What|Old value |New value

  CC|'fs,jbfaure,noop,rainerbie|'as,fs,jbfaure,noop,rainer
|lefeld,wtstommy'  |bielefeld,wtstommy'

  Status|NEW   |STARTED





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Oct 28 13:52:44 + 
2008 ---
fs->as: this is a regression of my change to my change to
MediaDescriptor::addInputStream_Impl, where we now create the InputStream from
the SalvagedFile, if present.

I will revert this change, and see whether I can fix the original problem in
another way.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

[fs]

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What|Old value |New value

OtherIssuesDependingOnTh|  |93339
  is|  |

 Assigned to|tm|fs

Keywords|oooqa |oooqa, regression, release
|  |_blocker

Target milestone|---   |OOo 3.0.1





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Oct 28 13:51:33 + 
2008 ---
Can reproduce. Regression compared to 2.4.1 => keyword "regression". Targeting
to 3.0.1, since we're talking about data loss here.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

[fs]

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  CC|'jbfaure,noop,rainerbielef|'fs,jbfaure,noop,rainerbie
|eld,wtstommy' |lefeld,wtstommy'





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[framework-issues] [Issue 92968] Dataloss: Document AutoRec overy loads previous version of file instead o f backup file

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User rainerbielefeld changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

  CC|'jbfaure,noop,wtstommy'   |'jbfaure,noop,rainerbielef
|  |eld,wtstommy'

Keywords|  |oooqa

Priority|P3|P2

Platform|Macintosh |All

 Summary|Document AutoRecovery load|Dataloss: Document AutoRec
|s previous version of file|overy loads previous versi
|  |on of file instead of back
|  |up file





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Oct 28 10:02:36 + 
2008 ---
I checked for a WRITER document with "Ooo 3.0.0 RC3 Multilingual version German
UI WIN XP: [OOO300m8 (Build9357)]" and can confirm the reported effect. Auto
recovery used the last version of the document, not the backup information from
document in


That's really serious.

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