[l10n-issues] [Issue 68640] [DE] Bad layout of Options dialog, text truncated on some systems

2008-11-23 Thread andreschnabel
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What|Old value |New value

 Assigned to|andreschnabel |tm

   Component|l10n  |framework

Priority|P4|P3

  QA contact|[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Target milestone|OOo Later |---





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Nov 23 15:37:07 + 
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reassigned to framework.

reset to P3 again - at tleast the string for decimal separator is cut in way so
that the functionality of the option cannot be understood by the user.

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 68640] [DE] Bad layout of Options dialog, text truncated on some systems

2008-11-15 Thread andreschnabel
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  CC|'ccheney,dolmen,rainerbiel|'ccheney,dolmen,rainerbiel
|efeld,ufi'|efeld,sophie,ufi'

 Assigned to|os|andreschnabel





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Nov 15 16:31:17 + 
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taking over

@sophi: schould we send this to framework project or deal with this in our
translation?

I could at least provide a shorter string for the decimal separator what do
you think?

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 68640] [DE] Bad layout of Options dialog, text truncated on some systems

2008-03-16 Thread ccheney
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[l10n-issues] [Issue 68640] [DE] Bad layout of Options dialog, text truncated on some systems

2008-02-02 Thread dolmen
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Feb  2 15:04:46 + 
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***
It can be seen for this very string in French: 
Identique à l'environnement linguistique (,) is LONGER than the German
Dem Gebietsschema entsprechend (,). But on the same machine there is MORE
space left after the brackets with the French UI.
***

On Ubuntu 7.10, french locale (fr_FR.UTF-8) the important part of the string is
missing too. See screenshot.

So this issue applies to french in addition to german.

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 68640] [DE] Bad layout of Options dialog, text truncated on some systems

2008-02-02 Thread dolmen
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Feb  2 15:06:35 + 
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Created an attachment (id=51327)
Screen capture of the Langues dialog in french, showing the layout problem


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[l10n-issues] [Issue 68640] [DE] Bad layout of Options dialog, text truncated on some systems

2008-02-02 Thread dolmen
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Feb  2 15:20:03 + 
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I've reported the french version of the bug in Ubuntu as bug 188357
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/188357

Combined to the fact the Ubuntu keymap for french users is broken (Ubuntu bug
188342) and so by default the numpad does not gives a comma (the famous OOo
issue 1820), this setting has a major importance for french Ubuntu users, even
if it will not solve the keymap problem.

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 68640] [DE] Bad layout of Options dialog, text truncated on some systems

2008-02-02 Thread dolmen
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[l10n-issues] [Issue 68640] [DE] Bad layout of Options dialog, text truncated on some systems

2006-08-26 Thread ronnystandtke
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug 26 10:16:40 -0700 
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 SBA: First and most important: ONE PROBLEM = ONE ISSUE!

No reason to shout here. This issue deals with exactly one problem (broken 
layout) and shows two symptoms of this problem.

 it was adressed by squeezing the UI strings a little for some languages.

Fighting symptoms is the wrong way to deal with a problem. You should fix the 
layout of the dialog by not using fixed positions and dimensions but use a 
dynamic layout that automatically adopts to translated string lenghts, chosen 
fonts or dialog size changes. Then you don't need to fix translations 
anymore.

 there is bigger fish to catch at times and in the near future for OS

The problem does not disappear just because you ignore it. By not fixing the 
problem you will notice its symptoms again and again.

You need to think longterm.

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 68640] [DE] Bad layout of Options dialog, text truncated on some systems

2006-08-25 Thread sba
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User sba changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

 Assigned to|sba   |os

Keywords|needmoreinfo, oooqa   |oooqa

Priority|P3|P4

 Summary|[DE] Bad layout of Options|[DE] Bad layout of Options
| dialog, text truncated   | dialog, text truncated on
|  | some systems

Target milestone|---   |OOo Later





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 25 08:21:19 -0700 
2006 ---
SBA: First and most important: ONE PROBLEM = ONE ISSUE!

Yes, it IS tempting to mention seemingly connected problems (...within the same
dialog...) within one issue. But this way we would mutate the issue tracker to
an ieffective discussion forum. There are other tools to do so, i.e. mail 
aliases.

So we will focus on the decimal seperator string thingie and disregard all other
mentioned problems within this issue. 
If someone feels like writing seperate issues for the other stuff, please go
ahead and write more issues. (...Makrosicherheit button border: != Prio P5, and
no Problem on Suse 9.4 with GNOME desktop...) 

Back to the subject:
Experience tells that English is hardly ever a problem concerning string length.
Spanish, French and Portuguese are more likely to have longer strings. No, there
is no official statistic for this, but it was adressed by squeezing the UI
strings a little for some languages. 

It can be seen for this very string in French: 
Identique à l'environnement linguistique (,) is LONGER than the German
Dem Gebietsschema entsprechend (,). But on the same machine there is MORE
space left after the brackets with the French UI.

But since there is no space left, it is clear that a system font of other Linux
distributions that is slightly larger will cause the problem that can be seen in
the screenshot Sprachen.png.

Summarized:
 - A workaround is to apply font replacement so that a slightly thinner
no-serif-font is used for UI
 - Changed the Prio to P4 as it does not affect all languages and all systems 
alike
 - Set target to OOo later because there is bigger fish to catch at times and
in the near future for OS. (Note: OOo community developers are invited to fix
the things SUN developers do not have ressources for)
I corrected the summary to reflect the findings.

- OS: Please proceed.

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