[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
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[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 User oc changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|RESOLVED |VERIFIED --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 14 01:53:14 -0800 2005 --- verified in internal build cws_localedata3 - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
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[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
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[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 User er changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|STARTED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 23 09:49:05 -0800 2005 --- On branch cws_src680_localedata3: i18npool/source/localedata/localedata.cxx 1.29.12.1 i18npool/source/localedata/data/fo_FO.xml 1.1.2.1 i18npool/source/localedata/data/localedata_euro.map 1.9.12.1 i18npool/source/localedata/data/makefile.mk 1.25.12.1 Note that I had to recode the IndexKey data from Latin1 to UTF-8, this was spotted by a validating parser. Note also that the LC_FORMAT ref=da_DK .../ did not work as intended, because Danish was one of the languages that still have localized format code keywords, in this case 'T' instead of 'H' for the hour key, see also http://l10n.openoffice.org/i18n_framework/LocaleData.html . So I copied the da_DK section and adapted keywords and the ID value in the currency formats. Sorry, I forgot about that, it turned up as some assertions in a non-product build, like mentioned in the locale.dtd. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Feb 19 05:53:14 -0800 2005 --- Hi Eike, To sum it up: attachment id=22725 can be submitted as a valid locale for fo_FO. Attachment id=22253 is obsolete. As you said Danish locale should be updated in LC_FORMAT: LC_FORMAT replaceFrom=[CURRENCY] replaceTo=[$kr-406] and for every [$kr-406] item. Thanks. Next locale in this ol' kingdom will be kl_GL. Sren - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 18 06:26:30 -0800 2005 --- Hi Soeren, Should these be localised? What do they do? LC_COLLATION ref=en_US/ LC_SEARCH ref=en_US/ LC_TRANSLITERATION ref=en_US/ LC_COLLATION defines the collation algorithm(s) to be used and the possible transliterations within. The alphanumeric algorithm together with the IGNORE_CASE transliteration specified in en_US.xml uses the ICU collation, which is sufficient for most languages and covers Western languages almost perfectly. You need only to define something different if for some reasons you need a special treatment, but then also have to implement an algorithm or provide the collation rule set, like done for CJK languages. LC_SEARCH defines the possible transliterations that can be used for a search. Also here, IGNORE_CASE should be sufficient for Western languages. LC_TRANSLITERATION defines the transliteration modules for a language. Again, for Western languages the IGNORTE_CASE, LOWERCASE_UPPERCASE and UPPERCASE_LOWERCASE should be all there is to it. CJK languages are more complicated. So yes, it should be fine to have them all refer en_US. @Jacob: This sounds like transliteration rules (for example from Greek, Russian or Arabic to Faroese) No, don't confuse transliteration with translation. Transliteration is about changing characters (uppercase - lowercase, or other forms) within one language. Eike - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 17 00:24:19 -0800 2005 --- LC_INDEX is now: ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ Good. LC_FORMAT is: LC_FORMAT ref=da_DK replaceFrom=[CURRENCY] replaceTo=[$kr-438]/ Good. Should these be localised? What do they do? LC_COLLATION ref=en_US/ This is the sorting rules. They are described in the attachment fo_FO-collate.html. LC_SEARCH ref=en_US/ This one I can't guess the exact meaning of. LC_TRANSLITERATION ref=en_US/ This sounds like transliteration rules (for example from Greek, Russian or Arabic to Faroese). I think the best choice - until I can get my hands on whatever rules the linguists at the university have written down - is to refer to nn_NO. Jacob (brugernavn) PS: As a language, Faroese is closest to Icelandic, but formal rules (like currency, phone numbers, addresses) are generally like in Denmark. PPS: The Danish transliteration rules are definitely different from the American ones. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 17 08:54:55 -0800 2005 --- Hi Jacob, Eike wrote: There is a difference between the exemplar characters and the index key characters of the LC_INDEX section. Exemplar characters are the characters a language consists of, according to your description it seems that the CLDR definition is wrong in this regard, and you could file a bug against the CLDR, see http://www.unicode.org/cldr/filing_bug_reports.html and include the omniglot.com reference in the description. Will you follow up on that? Sren - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 16 12:11:03 -0800 2005 --- Soeren, Yes, it is possible to refer da_DK data, please use the line LC_FORMAT ref=da_DK replaceFrom=[CURRENCY] replaceTo=[$kr-438]/ To make this work I'll have to change the da_DK.xml data to LC_FORMAT replaceFrom=[CURRENCY] replaceTo=[$kr-406] and replace [$kr-406] in the format codes with [CURRENCY]. That's easily done. Please attach a new data file to make sure that we won't have encoding issues with the IndexKey data when copied from the browser's clipboard. Thanks Eike - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 User thing changed the following: What|Old value |New value Attachment data| |Created an attachment | |(id=22725) Locale settings --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 16 23:04:47 -0800 2005 --- Created an attachment (id=22725) Locale settings - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 16 23:09:37 -0800 2005 --- Hi Eike, LC_INDEX is now: ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ LC_FORMAT is: LC_FORMAT ref=da_DK replaceFrom=[CURRENCY] replaceTo=[$kr-438]/ Please correct the danish locale as planned. above = yvir below = undir Should these be localised? What do they do? LC_COLLATION ref=en_US/ LC_SEARCH ref=en_US/ LC_TRANSLITERATION ref=en_US/ Thanks Sren - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 User thing changed the following: What|Old value |New value Attachment data| |Created an attachment | |(id=22726) Various locale | |settings --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 16 23:12:13 -0800 2005 --- Created an attachment (id=22726) Various locale settings - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 User thing changed the following: What|Old value |New value Attachment data| |Created an attachment | |(id=22727) Elaborates | |faroese alphabet and | |locale --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 16 23:12:48 -0800 2005 --- Created an attachment (id=22727) Elaborates faroese alphabet and locale - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 16 23:13:44 -0800 2005 --- I have added fo_FO.txt and fo_FO-collate.html as reference. Thanks, brugernavn. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Feb 15 03:59:42 -0800 2005 --- Hi Soeren, There is a difference between the exemplar characters and the index key characters of the LC_INDEX section. Exemplar characters are the characters a language consists of, according to your description it seems that the CLDR definition is wrong in this regard, and you could file a bug against the CLDR, see http://www.unicode.org/cldr/filing_bug_reports.html and include the omniglot.com reference in the description. However, what makes me wonder a bit is, on that page the 'c' is not included in the alphabet, but is included in the pronunciation of consonants. The LC_INDEX index key characters define the order in which entries are sorted in index pages you can generate in the Writer application. Characters not mentioned there are sorted to the end in Unicode order. Now it depends how characters not present in the Faroese language, like 'c' for example or other Latin characters in this case, should be sorted in an index page. Are they expected to appear in between the known Faroese characters, like they would with [a-z], do they have special positions, or are they simply appended, as it would happen with [abdefghijklmnoprstuvy]. Btw: it's not over and under, but above and below instead, which can make a difference. The expressions are used in the Writer when referring other positions above or below a text, see menu Insert.Fields.Other.References Set Reference/Insert Reference. Eike - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 14 12:14:22 -0800 2005 --- Hi Eike, Regarding LC_INDEX: To be honest I don't know how I should define the alphabet. According to this page http://www.omniglot.com/writing/faroese.htm several letters in the reg. exp. a-z doesn't exist in the faroese alphabet. However, this locale from CLDR 1.3alpha http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/~checkout~/locale/common/main/fo.xml has a tag exemplarCharacters[a-z]/exemplarCharacters. Should we go with [a-z] or define the complete set [abdefghijklmnoprstuvy] (http://www.omniglot.com/writing/faroese.htm). Reminder to self: find translation for over and under. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 10 03:01:21 -0800 2005 --- Soeren, You can keep the ref=en_US, it isn't necessary to change them to da_DK. I just thought that the Faroese locale (not the language) resembles more da_DK than en_US, but of course I'm blatant ignorant in this regard. Using en_US instead of da_DK seems to be a political decision in this case? Anyway, a corrected LC_INDEX section will be good. Eike - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 9 14:44:43 -0800 2005 --- After reading your feedback I will update the locale shortly (LC_INDEX). The tags with ref=en_US is the exact same as in the danish locale because fo_FO.xml is more or less an adjusted copy of da_DK.xml. Do you recommend setting ref=en_US to ref=da_DK anyway? I think some faroese people would rather refer to ref=en_US than ref=da_DK. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 User er changed the following: What|Old value |New value Target milestone|not determined|OOo 2.0 Version|OOo 2.0 |680m77 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Feb 8 05:13:51 -0800 2005 --- Added issue to CWS localedata3. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 7 05:45:58 -0800 2005 --- Hi Soeren, Should do (except that 406 would become some new to be defined language ID instead), I only would change some of it to use more the ref=da_DK mechanism. But shouldn't the LC_INDEX section resemble more the one of da_DK, instead of mentioning only ASCII letters and being more or less en_US? Eike - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-issues] [Issue 39417] Add Faroese as locale
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=39417 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Feb 5 10:54:29 -0800 2005 --- I made this XML based on this danish XML: http://l10n.openoffice.org/nonav/source/browse/*checkout*/l10n/i18npool/source/localedata/data/da_DK.xml?rev=1.8 Will this do? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
