[Alsa-user] 2 card question

2006-01-07 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings;

1st card is an ac97 compat nvidia in an nforce2, onboard
2nd card is an SBLive/Audigy 24 bit, aka a snd_ca0106, just installed.  
Modules are built and loaded.

Alsa is amixer -v=1.0.4, kernel is 2.6.15.  Install is heavily hacked 
FC2 with all updates that apply.

Kmix from kde-3.3.0 doesn't show anything in the input tab screen when 
the SBLive is selected.  The output screen is normally populated.

System sounds, such as the splash when there is incoming mail have gone 
mute, presumably because they are now being routed to the SBLive which 
ATM has no speakers connected.

The intention is to use the onboard ac97 getup for Skype, and the 
SBLive/Audigy 24 bitter for everything else.

Where can I find suitable docs to tell me howto do this?

Or is there a gui of sorts to do all this included with alsa-1.0.4 that 
I don't know about?

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Re: [Alsa-user] 2 card question

2006-01-07 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 04:26 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 Greetings;
 
 1st card is an ac97 compat nvidia in an nforce2, onboard
 2nd card is an SBLive/Audigy 24 bit, aka a snd_ca0106, just installed.  
 Modules are built and loaded.
 
 Alsa is amixer -v=1.0.4, kernel is 2.6.15.  Install is heavily hacked 
 FC2 with all updates that apply.
 

What version is alsa-lib?  You probably need to upgrade as the CA0106
didn't exist when ALSA 1.0.4 was released, and each ALSA driver requires
a userspace and kernel component.

Lee

 Kmix from kde-3.3.0 doesn't show anything in the input tab screen when 
 the SBLive is selected.  The output screen is normally populated.
 
 System sounds, such as the splash when there is incoming mail have gone 
 mute, presumably because they are now being routed to the SBLive which 
 ATM has no speakers connected.
 
 The intention is to use the onboard ac97 getup for Skype, and the 
 SBLive/Audigy 24 bitter for everything else.
 
 Where can I find suitable docs to tell me howto do this?
 
 Or is there a gui of sorts to do all this included with alsa-1.0.4 that 
 I don't know about?
 



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Re: [Alsa-user] 2 card question

2006-01-07 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 12:16 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Saturday 07 January 2006 04:39, Lee Revell wrote:
 On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 04:26 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
  Greetings;
 
  1st card is an ac97 compat nvidia in an nforce2, onboard
  2nd card is an SBLive/Audigy 24 bit, aka a snd_ca0106, just
  installed. Modules are built and loaded.
 
  Alsa is amixer -v=1.0.4, kernel is 2.6.15.  Install is heavily
  hacked FC2 with all updates that apply.
 
 What version is alsa-lib?  You probably need to upgrade as the CA0106
 didn't exist when ALSA 1.0.4 was released, and each ALSA driver
  requires a userspace and kernel component.
 
 According to the dirname in /usr/src/alsa, its 1.0.4.  But according to 
 yumi, its 1.0.3-2 or thereabouts, rather jurassic. :)
 
 So went looking to see if there may have been a one piece download of 
 later stuff, but that appears to not be available in a packaged tar.bz2 
 format.  I found some things which may be daily snapshots of the cvs, 
 but the latest of those didn't unpack to something that looked as if it 
 had configure scripts in it, certainly not a one step overall builder.

Just do:

cvs co .
./build prep
./build all

etc

Don't bother with checking out alsa-kernel, alsa-driver, etc separately.

Also isn't there an updated alsa-lib package for FC2?  It seems like
they would maintain one in their updates tree.  It's needed to support
newer hardware.

Have you considered upgrading to FC4 which supports your hardware OOTB?

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] 2 card question

2006-01-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 07 January 2006 04:39, Lee Revell wrote:

This is a double send Lee, sorry.  I tried to subscribe to the list with 
a filterless address, but the list won't accept the postings from my 
normal address, so I just subbed as the normal address and unsubbed the 
filterless address.  vz sucks dead toads thru soda straws to paraphrase 
jdow, and old friend of mine from the amiga days.  I sure wish there 
was another game in town besides vz, but this is it.

On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 04:26 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 Greetings;

 1st card is an ac97 compat nvidia in an nforce2, onboard
 2nd card is an SBLive/Audigy 24 bit, aka a snd_ca0106, just
 installed. Modules are built and loaded.

 Alsa is amixer -v=1.0.4, kernel is 2.6.15.  Install is heavily
 hacked FC2 with all updates that apply.

What version is alsa-lib?  You probably need to upgrade as the CA0106
didn't exist when ALSA 1.0.4 was released, and each ALSA driver
 requires a userspace and kernel component.

According to the dirname in /usr/src/alsa, its 1.0.4.  But according to 
yumi, its 1.0.3-2 or thereabouts, rather jurassic. :)

So went looking to see if there may have been a one piece download of 
later stuff, but that appears to not be available in a packaged tar.bz2 
format.  I found some things which may be daily snapshots of the cvs, 
but the latest of those didn't unpack to something that looked as if it 
had configure scripts in it, certainly not a one step overall builder.

So I followed the cvs checkout instructions to get todays, the 
README.CVS didn't get right to the point, so I executed the build 
--help, which seems to say that a build all should do it.  But that 
bombed out because the alsa-kernel tree, with version.h seemed to be 
missing.

So next executed it with the prep option, which seems to have worked.
Now, rather than having things scattered, I'd like to have an rpm 
package that an rmp -Uvh will install, so whats the next step, just 
proceed in the order the --help spits out?

And, I'd druther not touch whats in the kernel since the kernel is 
2.6.15 and should be up2date vis-a-vis its alsa drivers AND I don't 
want to rebuild this to match each new kernel that comes out weekly, is 
there a way to build everything else in a compatible way?

In other words, how do I proceed from here, haveing executed the 
sh ./build prep sequence, to build an installable rpm containing the 
latest versions of everything not actually in the kernel tree as of 
2.6.15?

And since I'm doing this as root, how should I set the perms right now, 
so that normal users can use this?

Currently stopped and awaiting orders.

 The intention is to use the onboard ac97 getup for Skype, and the
 SBLive/Audigy 24 bitter for everything else.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
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Re: [Alsa-user] 2 card question

2006-01-07 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 13:19 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Saturday 07 January 2006 04:39, Lee Revell wrote:
 
 This is a double send Lee, sorry.

OK.  I did get the first message, try my suggestion from that.

Also please provide the link to the CVS instructions you used - we are
trying to fix all the old ALSA docs that are no longer accurate.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] 2 card question

2006-01-07 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 04:39 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
 On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 04:26 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
  Greetings;
  
  1st card is an ac97 compat nvidia in an nforce2, onboard
  2nd card is an SBLive/Audigy 24 bit, aka a snd_ca0106, just installed.  
  Modules are built and loaded.
  
  Alsa is amixer -v=1.0.4, kernel is 2.6.15.  Install is heavily hacked 
  FC2 with all updates that apply.
  
 
 What version is alsa-lib?  You probably need to upgrade as the CA0106
 didn't exist when ALSA 1.0.4 was released, and each ALSA driver requires
 a userspace and kernel component.
 

Personally I recommend to avoid the CA0106 devices - it's vastly
inferior to the old EMU10K1 and EMU10K2 devices which had hardware
mixing and DSP, and only a few dollars cheaper.  The CA0106 devices are
to a real SBLive! what a Winmodem is to a hardware modem.

It might be easier to exchange it for an Audigy2 Value...

Lee



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