Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:03 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 Ok, now that Alsa works greatly here's two little problems for you 
 (sorry, I don't want to abuse this mailing list...):
 
 1) I cannot hear sound in web pages (e.g.: I open an internet location 
 with FireFox, in the main page there's a sound and I cannot hear it)

Are you referring to a YTMND site by any chance? ;-)

Last time I checked Linux does not support these correctly - the sound
does not play in Firefox.

 2) Midi doesn't work (the device I use isMidi Through  Midi Through 
 Port-0 - ALSA device, the one in Hardware tab in the Sound System 
 part of KDE Control Center)
 

What do you expect it to do?  It won't just play .mid files OOTB like on
Windows.  Either get a soft synth like Timidity, or load the
snd-emu10k1-synth module then load a soundfont using asfxload.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread kunt1z

Lee Revell ha scritto:


On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:03 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 

Ok, now that Alsa works greatly here's two little problems for you 
(sorry, I don't want to abuse this mailing list...):


1) I cannot hear sound in web pages (e.g.: I open an internet location 
with FireFox, in the main page there's a sound and I cannot hear it)
   



Are you referring to a YTMND site by any chance? ;-)
 


???


Last time I checked Linux does not support these correctly - the sound
does not play in Firefox.

 

Not true, because if I turn off aRts daemon I'm able to hear sounds in 
web pages.


2) Midi doesn't work (the device I use isMidi Through  Midi Through 
Port-0 - ALSA device, the one in Hardware tab in the Sound System 
part of KDE Control Center)


   



What do you expect it to do?  It won't just play .mid files OOTB like on
Windows.  Either get a soft synth like Timidity, or load the
snd-emu10k1-synth module then load a soundfont using asfxload.

Lee

 

I thought I could play midis like Windows... I try to load this modules 
and I tell you




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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:12 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 Not true, because if I turn off aRts daemon I'm able to hear sounds
 in 
 web pages.
 

Sounds like artsd is blocking /dev/dsp, which Firefox also wants to use.
Can you configure artsd to use ALSA rather than OSS?

Are you referring to sounds played by the browser or Flash applets?  If
Flash is the problem, configure your browser to run the Flash plugin
with the aoss wrapper.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread kunt1z

Lee Revell ha scritto:


On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:12 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 


Not true, because if I turn off aRts daemon I'm able to hear sounds
in 
web pages.


   



Sounds like artsd is blocking /dev/dsp, which Firefox also wants to use.
Can you configure artsd to use ALSA rather than OSS?
 


Already done.


Are you referring to sounds played by the browser or Flash applets?  If
Flash is the problem, configure your browser to run the Flash plugin
with the aoss wrapper.

Lee


 


I mean Flash applets. How can I configure my browser the way you told me?



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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:07:29 -0500,
Lee Revell wrote:
 
 On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:03 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
  Ok, now that Alsa works greatly here's two little problems for you 
  (sorry, I don't want to abuse this mailing list...):
  
  1) I cannot hear sound in web pages (e.g.: I open an internet location 
  with FireFox, in the main page there's a sound and I cannot hear it)
 
 Are you referring to a YTMND site by any chance? ;-)
 
 Last time I checked Linux does not support these correctly - the sound
 does not play in Firefox.

I guess he's referring to pages with flush.  Since flush player uses
OSS, it doesn't work when other programs occupy the sound device.


Takashi


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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:23 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 I mean Flash applets. How can I configure my browser the way you told me?
 

Sorry, I'm not sure where you would change this - I use a soundcard with
hardware mixing so it's not needed on my system.  Maybe you can Google
for it or someone else on the list can answer.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:12 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 Lee Revell ha scritto:
 
 On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:03 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
   
 
 Ok, now that Alsa works greatly here's two little problems for you 
 (sorry, I don't want to abuse this mailing list...):
 
 1) I cannot hear sound in web pages (e.g.: I open an internet
 location 
 with FireFox, in the main page there's a sound and I cannot hear it)
 
 
 
 Are you referring to a YTMND site by any chance? ;-)
   
 
 ??? 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=ytmndbtnG=Google+Search



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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:25:46 -0500,
Lee Revell wrote:
 
 On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:23 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
  I mean Flash applets. How can I configure my browser the way you told me?
  
 
 Sorry, I'm not sure where you would change this - I use a soundcard with
 hardware mixing so it's not needed on my system.  Maybe you can Google
 for it or someone else on the list can answer.

It's not possible to fix flush player because it's a plugin (not an
independent process).  The only way would be to start the browser with
aoss wrapper or a equivalent one for the sound daemon (e.g. artsdsp or
essdsp) from the very beginning.


Takashi


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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread kunt1z

Takashi Iwai ha scritto:


At Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:25:46 -0500,
Lee Revell wrote:
 


On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:23 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
   


I mean Flash applets. How can I configure my browser the way you told me?

 


Sorry, I'm not sure where you would change this - I use a soundcard with
hardware mixing so it's not needed on my system.  Maybe you can Google
for it or someone else on the list can answer.
   



It's not possible to fix flush player because it's a plugin (not an
independent process).  The only way would be to start the browser with
aoss wrapper or a equivalent one for the sound daemon (e.g. artsdsp or
essdsp) from the very beginning.


Takashi


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Ok, it works. Thanx!



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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread Bill Unruh

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, kunt1z wrote:


Takashi Iwai ha scritto:


At Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:25:46 -0500,
Lee Revell wrote:


On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:23 +0100, kunt1z wrote:


I mean Flash applets. How can I configure my browser the way you told me?



Sorry, I'm not sure where you would change this - I use a soundcard with
hardware mixing so it's not needed on my system.  Maybe you can Google
for it or someone else on the list can answer.



It's not possible to fix flush player because it's a plugin (not an
independent process).  The only way would be to start the browser with
aoss wrapper or a equivalent one for the sound daemon (e.g. artsdsp or
essdsp) from the very beginning.


Takashi


Ok, it works. Thanx!


it? What is the referent to the it? Others might be interested in the
solution. HOw did you solve the problem?



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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread kunt1z

Bill Unruh ha scritto:


On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, kunt1z wrote:


Takashi Iwai ha scritto:


At Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:25:46 -0500,
Lee Revell wrote:


On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:23 +0100, kunt1z wrote:

I mean Flash applets. How can I configure my browser the way you 
told me?



Sorry, I'm not sure where you would change this - I use a soundcard 
with

hardware mixing so it's not needed on my system.  Maybe you can Google
for it or someone else on the list can answer.



It's not possible to fix flush player because it's a plugin (not an
independent process).  The only way would be to start the browser with
aoss wrapper or a equivalent one for the sound daemon (e.g. artsdsp or
essdsp) from the very beginning.


Takashi


Ok, it works. Thanx!



it? What is the referent to the it? Others might be interested in the
solution. HOw did you solve the problem?



Ok, sorry. I've used the aoss wrapper:
- download and install the alsa-oss package
- start firefox this way:
$aoss firefox

I've also made a link on my desktop...
Sorry again. ByEz!!!



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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread Bill Unruh

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, kunt1z wrote:


Bill Unruh ha scritto:


On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, kunt1z wrote:


Takashi Iwai ha scritto:


At Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:25:46 -0500,
Lee Revell wrote:


On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:23 +0100, kunt1z wrote:

I mean Flash applets. How can I configure my browser the way you told 
me?




Sorry, I'm not sure where you would change this - I use a soundcard with
hardware mixing so it's not needed on my system.  Maybe you can Google
for it or someone else on the list can answer.



It's not possible to fix flush player because it's a plugin (not an
independent process).  The only way would be to start the browser with
aoss wrapper or a equivalent one for the sound daemon (e.g. artsdsp or
essdsp) from the very beginning.


Takashi


Ok, it works. Thanx!



it? What is the referent to the it? Others might be interested in the
solution. HOw did you solve the problem?



Ok, sorry. I've used the aoss wrapper:
- download and install the alsa-oss package
- start firefox this way:
$aoss firefox


Thanks. That should be useful for others as well. Is another possibility to
somehow have the plugin go through aoss when it plugs itself in?


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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 21:54 +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
 flush player 

Bwahahahahha, that's a good one.  I wish we could flush the damn thing.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread kunt1z

Bill Unruh ha scritto:


On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, kunt1z wrote:


Bill Unruh ha scritto:


On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, kunt1z wrote:


Takashi Iwai ha scritto:


At Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:25:46 -0500,
Lee Revell wrote:


On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:23 +0100, kunt1z wrote:

I mean Flash applets. How can I configure my browser the way you 
told me?



Sorry, I'm not sure where you would change this - I use a 
soundcard with
hardware mixing so it's not needed on my system.  Maybe you can 
Google

for it or someone else on the list can answer.



It's not possible to fix flush player because it's a plugin (not an
independent process).  The only way would be to start the browser 
with
aoss wrapper or a equivalent one for the sound daemon (e.g. 
artsdsp or

essdsp) from the very beginning.


Takashi


Ok, it works. Thanx!




it? What is the referent to the it? Others might be interested in the
solution. HOw did you solve the problem?



Ok, sorry. I've used the aoss wrapper:
- download and install the alsa-oss package
- start firefox this way:
$aoss firefox



Thanks. That should be useful for others as well. Is another 
possibility to

somehow have the plugin go through aoss when it plugs itself in?


Searching on Google I read that on Ubuntu there's a file:

/etc/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefoxrc

Here you have to change the variable FIREFOX_DSP from auto to aoss.
I use Debian, I've got a similar file:

/etc/mozilla/mozillarc

and the variable whitin it is MOZILLA_DSP. I've tried to make the change 
above, but it doesn't work...




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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 13:24 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
  $aoss firefox
 
 Thanks. That should be useful for others as well. Is another possibility to
 somehow have the plugin go through aoss when it plugs itself in?
 

I don't think this is possible because aoss uses an LD_PRELOAD hack and
that can only be done at startup when all shared libraries are loaded.
There's an open feature request for Firefox to run plugins in a separate
process, the main advantage of which is that you can prevent them from
sucking 100% of your CPU, it would also allow this.

Since we have many reports that aoss works well with Flash, I think the
best solution is to ask the distros which use ALSA by default (all of
them now I think) to make /usr/bin/firefox or whatever a wrapper around
aoss firefox.

Lee



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