Re: Restoring from tape when Amanda server failed - conclusion and open questions

2006-07-21 Thread gil naveh
Thanks much for the support. Eventually I was able to restore some of the missing files  but I still have some open questions.  1) I  was able to restore the files on the Server where Amanda server was initially  installed. However, I could not restore the tape from a different server  (ServerB) with similar operating system (Solaris 9). The mystery about the restore process was that  I successfully run the commands(on serverB):a. mt -f /dev/rmt/0cn rewind   b. mt -f /dev/rmt/0cn fsf 1   But when I  run the command:dd if=/dev/rmt/0cn bs=32k skip=1   It gave me  the following error message:  read: Invalid argument  0+0 records in  0+0 records out   Does  anybody know why? 
 2) When  I restored the data using the command:  dd if=/dev/rmt/0cn bs=32k skip=1 | gzip -d | /usr/sbin/ufsrestore -ivf -  I was only able to restore files  that were saved - level 0 on that particular tape; Yet I also restored a folder  on Amanda – that folder was lastly restored on run level-1.  But need to restore certain files  from that folder without restoring the whole folder – is this possible using  the ufsrestore tool? In the past I was able to do so
 with the amrestore  utility.Thanks,  gilgil naveh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Thanks Jon,  Regarding your comments/questions:  1) You keep using a blocksize of 64k for dd, why? Amanda normally uses 32k  I tried both for 32K and 64k (part of try and error trial I did to  recover the data) - anyway thanks, now I am confident that amanda uses  32k.2)Have you read the docs refered to above for how to recover?  I read those documents many times - I hate asking questions before  doing my research - but when I tried to follow the instructions the  recover failed!
 3)Following an mt rewind, the first thing a dd should see is  the tape label header file. Your output is certainly NOT  an amanda tape label. Are you certain this is a valid  amanda tape? Or you showed the sequence of commands accurately?  I am 100% sure, it is an Amanda tape label - I only backed up those  tapes with Amanda and restore the data from them using amrestore!  Ignore my previous comment regarding   reading file from /tmp/data - I just  realized that I read those files from the HD instead from the tape.4)Solaris has a fine file(1) command. What does "file /tmp/data"  tell you about what dd pulled from the tape? - ignore my privious  comment regarding reading file from /tmp/data - I just realized  that I read those files from the HD instead from the tape.At this stage I just can't recover files from the tape! When running dd I keep  getting the message:   read: Invalid argument  0+0 records
 in  0+0 records outThx,  gilJon LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 02:07:42PM -0700, gil naveh wrote: Thanks for all the help, but I have a problem to restore the  files.   When I type:   root@ # dd if=/dev/rmt/0n   ibs=64k | ufsrestore if -   I recieve the following error message:   read: Invalid argument   0+0 records in   0+0 records out   Volume is not in dump format  But as far as I know it should be in a dump format!!! – because in the Amanda.conf  I defined the backup as:   define dumptype daily {  global  # program  "DUMP" # the default  # record yes # the default  comment 
 "daily"  compress client  fast  priority high  # dumpcycle 5# should be obtained from dumpcycle  above  index yes   } I also tried the following:   % mt -f /dev/rmt/0n rewind% dd if=/dev/rmt/0n of=/tmp/data bs=64k count=2   % od -c /tmp/data | head  And received the following   output:   000  \0 002   P 022  \0  \f  \0  001   .  \0  \0  \0  \0 003 242   Q   020  \0  \f  \0 002   .   .   \0  \0  \0 002   P 023 001 350  \0 006   040   n   e   w   bc   k  \0  \0  \0  \f  \0 003b   c   k  \0   060  \0  \0  \0  \0 001 320  \0 006n   e   w   b   c   k   \0  \0   100  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0   \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0   *   0001000  Can one deduct the dump format from the above
 output?  Many thanks,   gil Paul Bijnens  wrote:   On 2006-07-19 17:35, gil naveh wrote:  Thanks for the help.  I am familiar with the Amrestore command.  Then you understand that you can replace "amrestore" with a "mt" and "dd".  ... The docs in  http://www.amanda.org/docs/restore.html are a little   more expanded, giving more examples in:  http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/Restoring_filesGrrr, I hate top posting.So hard to add inline and followingAnyway, several points.We don't know it should be a ufsdump, your dumptype includesglobal that we don't see and otherwise does not define PROGRAM.You keep using a blocksize of 64k for dd, why?  Amanda normallyuses 32k.Have you read the docs refered to above

Re: Restoring from tape when Amanda server failed

2006-07-20 Thread gil naveh
Pavel,Below if the output from the running the following commands:  root@ # mt -f /dev/rmt/0n rewind  root@ # mt -f /dev/rmt/0n fsf 1  root@ # dd if=/dev/rmt/0n bs=32k count=1  read: Invalid argument  0+0 records in  0+0 records outThanks,  GilPavel Pragin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hello,Can you please run this and post the output:-bash-3.00$ ammt -f /dev/rmt/0n rewind-bash-3.00$ ammt -f /dev/rmt/0n fsf 1-bash-3.00$ amdd if=/dev/rmt/0n bs=32k count=1Pavelgil naveh wrote: Thanks but I tried to strip the header as well and it gave me teh same error  message! */Matt Hyclak /* wrote: On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 02:07:42PM -0700, gil naveh enlightened us:  Thanks for
 all the help, but I have a problem to restore the files.  When I type:  root@ # dd if=/dev/rmt/0n ibs=64k | ufsrestore if -  I recieve the following error message:  read: Invalid argument  0+0 records in  0+0 records out  Volume is not in dump format   But as far as I know it should be in a dump format!!! – because in the  Amanda.conf I defined the backup as:  You forgot to strip off the amanda header at the beginning of the file. Usually this is dd if=/dev/tape bs=32k skip=1 --  Matt Hyclak Department of Mathematics Department of Social Work Ohio University (740) 593-1263

Restoring from tape when Amanda server failed

2006-07-19 Thread gil naveh
Hi,  I have to restore from our tape drive, but our Amanda server  that runs on Solaris 9 has failed.  Any suggestion/ideas on how to recover files from tapes are mostly  welcome.  Our tape drive is: ULTRIUM2-LTO  The dump type is:  define dumptype daily {   global   comment  "daily"   compress client  fast   priority high   index yes  } 
   Many thanks,  gil

Re: Restoring from tape when Amanda server failed

2006-07-19 Thread gil naveh
Thanks for the help.  I am familiar with the Amrestore command.  But the problem I am facing is that the Amanda server which also holds other  applications crushed. So I have to restore data from another server - I have  Solaris 9 and and or Solaris 10 servers that I can connect to the tape drive...  I also saved the configuration files of the amanda server.Is there a way to directly connect to the tape drive and use unix commands to restore data from it?  Or any other suggestions...  Many thanks,  gilJoshua Baker-LePain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 at 8:12am, gil naveh wrote  I have to restore from our tape drive, but our Amanda server  that runs on Solaris 9 has
 failed.  Any suggestion/ideas on how to recover files from tapes are mostly  welcome.http://www.amanda.org/docs/restore.htmlman amrestoreThis is very well explained in multiple (obvious) places.-- Joshua Baker-LePainDepartment of Biomedical EngineeringDuke University

Re: Restoring from tape when Amanda server failed

2006-07-19 Thread gil naveh
Thanks for all the help, but I have a problem to restore the  files.  When I type:  root@ # dd if=/dev/rmt/0n ibs=64k | ufsrestore if -  I recieve the following error message:  read: Invalid argument  0+0 records in  0+0 records out  Volume is not in dump formatBut as far as I know it should be in a dump format!!! – because in the Amanda.conf  I defined the backup as:define dumptype daily {   global   # program  "DUMP" # the default   # record yes # the default  
 comment  "daily"   compress client  fast   priority high   # dumpcycle 5 # should be obtained from dumpcycle  above   index yes  }  I also tried the following:  % mt -f /dev/rmt/0n rewind   % dd if=/dev/rmt/0n of=/tmp/data bs=64k count=2 
 % od -c /tmp/data | headAnd received the following output:  000 \0 002 P 022 \0 \f \0  001 . \0 \0 \0 \0 003 242 Q  020 \0 \f \0 002 . .  \0 \0 \0 002 P 023 001 350 \0 006  040 n e w b  c k \0 \0 \0 \f \0 003  b c k \0  060 \0 \0 \0 \0 001 320 \0 006  n e w b c k  \0 \0  100 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0  \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0  *  0001000Can one deduct the dump format from the above
 output?Many thanks,  gilPaul Bijnens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  On 2006-07-19 17:35, gil naveh wrote: Thanks for the help. I am familiar with the Amrestore command.Then you understand that you can replace "amrestore" with a"mt" and "dd". But the problem I am facing is that the Amanda server which also holds  other applications crushed. So I have to restore data from another  server - I have Solaris 9 and and or Solaris 10 servers that I can  connect to the tape drive... I also saved the configuration files of the amanda server. Is there a way to directly connect to the tape drive and use unix  commands to restore data from it? Or any other suggestions...mt -f /dev/rmt/0n  fsf 34dd
 bs=32k if=/dev/rmt/0n skip=1  of=/some/wheredd to to stdout, in a pipe with netcat: ...  | nc -w 1 client 1234And on the client you have already this command listening:nc -l -p 1234 | gtar -zxpGvf -The docs in  http://www.amanda.org/docs/restore.htmlare a little more expanded, giving more examples in:http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/Restoring_filesEasiest is to first restore the amanda command "amrestore"That one does not need any config file at all.-- Paul Bijnens, xplanation Technology ServicesTel  +32 16 397.511Technologielaan 21 bus 2, B-3001 Leuven, BELGIUMFax  +32 16 397.512http://www.xplanation.com/  email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think I've got the hang of it now:  exit, ^D, ^C, ^\, ^Z, ^Q, ^^, ** F6, quit, ZZ, :q, :q!, M-Z, ^X^C, logoff, logout, close, bye,
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Re: Restoring from tape when Amanda server failed

2006-07-19 Thread gil naveh
Thanks   but I tried to strip the header as well and it gave me teh same error message!Matt Hyclak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 02:07:42PM -0700, gil naveh enlightened us: Thanks for all the help, but I have a problem to restore the  files.   When I type:   root@ # dd if=/dev/rmt/0n ibs=64k | ufsrestore if -   I recieve the following error message:   read: Invalid argument   0+0 records in   0+0 records out   Volume is not in dump format  But as far as I know it should be in a dump format!!! – because in the   Amanda.conf I defined the backup as:You forgot to strip off the amanda header at the beginning of the file.Usually this isdd if=/dev/tape bs=32k skip=1--
 Matt HyclakDepartment of Mathematics Department of Social WorkOhio University(740) 593-1263

Restoring from tapes

2006-05-09 Thread gil naveh
hi,  We have a Solaris server that runs multiple applications including Amanda  server.  This server is connected to a tape drive were the backupfiles are being  stored (by Amanda).So far, data is stored and successfully recovered from the tapes. However, what  can be done in case the Amanda server is crushed? Are there indexes on the  server that enables the restoration or can I restore the files from a different  server?  What is the best practice to prepare for such event?We have a new Solaris server that can be connected to the tape drive as well.  Should I install Amanda server on that new server – to prepare  for a disaster on the main Amanda server? Any suggestions comments are mostly welcome.  Many thanks,  gil

to configure or not to configure this is the question

2006-03-03 Thread gil naveh








Hi,



We have Amanda backing up our Solaris servers for about a year. So far
we are very happy with Amanda.

Recently I was requested to use Amanda to backup some of our Window
server.

In order to do so, I have to configure Amanda with Smbclient.

Does it mean that I have do  reconfigure + make + make install
from start  or is there another way more graceful to add the Smbclient
configuration to Amanda.



Many thanks,

Gil










RE: back up a window folder

2005-03-02 Thread Gil Naveh
Paul thanks much for your help but the symlink did not resolve the problem.
It seems that Amanda does not read it.
When running amcheck I get the following error:

#Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check
#
#ERROR: solarisserver: [could not access Files/hello_Visual_folder/'
(//winserver'/Program): No such file or directory]
#Client check: 1 host checked in 1.049 seconds, 1 problem found

Any other thoughts on how to resolve it?

Gil




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Gil Naveh wrote:

 We have a Solaris server that runs Amanda server on it.
 I was successfully able to backup a window folder into it - using
smbclient.
 However, most of the folders I have to backup have names with spaces (aca
 C:/hello Visual folder/).

And currently you can't escape spaces in the disklist file, as you have
found out already.  Patches welcome :-)


 Any idea on how can I backup those folder? (unfortunately I can't change
the
 folder's name).
 I wrote the folder name with single quote double quote in the disklist
file.
 But it did not work and amanda complained after running amcheck: #
undefined
 dumptype `Visual'
 Is there a way to work around folder's names with spaces?

On the Solaris filesystem:
ln -s 'hello Visual folder' hello_Visual_folder
and then put that entry in the disklist:

the.solaris.host  /the/dir/hello_Visual_folder comp-user-tar

The trick is that gnutar does chdir to the toplevel directory
effectively resolving that toplevel symlink.  Any symlinks inside
a directory are NOT resolved -- but you wouldn't expect a symlink
inside a PC-folder anyway)


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Amanda - unable to create temporary directory

2005-02-24 Thread Gil Naveh

Hello,

Amanda is successfully running on our Solaris Servers. But on Amanda's
report (the E-mail it sends after amdump) I get the following STRANGE
message:

? Unable to create temporary directory in any of the directories listed
below:
?   /tmp/
?   /var/tmp/
?   /

But when I manually accessed the server as Amanda user - I had no problem
creating a folder under /tmp as well as /var/tmp/ !

Any thoughts why am I getting this message?
Additionally, can somebody tell me what files does Amada writes under /tmp
folder?


Many thanks,
gil



Switching to GNUTAR - RE: Amanda - unable to create temporary directory

2005-02-24 Thread Gil Naveh
Thanks for the help,

At this point it seems that the best way for us is to switch from ufsdump to
gnutar.
But before doing so - what will happen with the backups that I did so far?
(I backed our data on a tape drive).
Does ufsdump and gnutar stores the data the same way? (Does ufsdump level
0,1... is identical to gnutar level 0,1...) Or does it store the data on a
different format?
Does Gnutar is going to store the data twice or is it going to overwrite the
data that was stored by ufsdump?

Any other concerns that I should keep in mind before switching from ufsdump
to gnutar?

Thanks,
gil

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Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:37 PM
To: amanda-users@amanda.org
Subject: Re: Amanda - unable to create temporary directory



Jon LaBadie said:

  On my system /usr/sbin/ufsdump is a symbolic link to
/usr/lib/fs/ufs/ufsdump.
  The latter program is root-owned, set-uid.  Perhaps yours has been
altered.
 
  $ ls -l /usr/lib/fs/ufs/ufsdump
  -r-sr-xr-x  1 root  bin   83820 Apr 12  2004 /usr/lib/fs/ufs/ufsdump

We actually strip the setuid bit on ufsdump and this seems to work in
most circumstances.

We had this problem every night on one specific solaris 9 system, and
no other sol9 or sol8 systems (and our amanda client is installed via a
package, so it's the same across all machines).  The solaris boxes are
also installed from the same jumpstart images, so they should all behave
the same.

This error comes from ufsdump, and near as I've been able to tell,
ufsdump is creating a directory named something like '.rlg.zyaaGR in
each of /tmp and /var/tmp (and failing to be able to in / since it's not
running as root, the jibberish after .rlg. changes with each run).  This
directory is called with mode 000 and then ufsdump attempts to create a
file in it, which fails and generates that error message.

I wasn't able to get ufsdump to behave better (nor did I look for
a patch or try to reset ufsdump to being setuid again) but on that
specific system we had amanda incorrectly configured to backup something
other than the mountpoint of the filesystem, but something inside the
filesystem (that is, instead of /export/home it was /export/home/foo/bar
where the filesystem was mounted on /export/home).

Switching this to the mountpoint made the error go away.  There may be
some limitations in ufsdump that cause you only be able to use ufsdump
this way if you're root (though sounsd lke a bug).

If you're doing this, and doing it on purpose, I'd suggest using gnutar
instead of dump since incremental dumps don't work right except on
filesystem boundaries.

If you're not doing this and actually backing up a mountpoint, then
maybe the above info will help track it down. (perhaps the setuid bit,
as Jon suggests).

-Todd



Amanda's report

2005-02-16 Thread Gil Naveh
After running Amanda's backup, I receive an email with a report about the
last backup.
The first section of that report is: FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY:
and under this section I get the following message:

  FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY:
 servername/folder/to/backup lev 0 STRANGE

What does STRANGE means?
I checked the data that was backed up on the tape and was able to restore
it - should I ignore that message or what does Amanda tries to tell me?

Many thanks,
gil



RE: Amanda's report

2005-02-16 Thread Gil Naveh

Gene, thanks for the help.
Per your request below is the section that describes why I got the Strange
message:

  FAILED AND STRANGE DUMP DETAILS:

  /-- servername/bck/folder lev 0 STRANGE
  sendbackup: start [servername:/bck/folder level 0]
  sendbackup: info BACKUP=/usr/sbin/ufsdump
  sendbackup: info RECOVER_CMD=/usr/bin/gzip -dc
|/usr/sbin/ufsrestore -f... -
  sendbackup: info COMPRESS_SUFFIX=.gz
  sendbackup: info end
  ? Unable to create temporary directory in any of the directories listed
below:
  ? /tmp/
  ? /var/tmp/
  ? /
  ? Please correct this problem and rerun the program.
  |   DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Wed Feb 16 00:46:26 2005
  |   DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
  |   DUMP: Dumping /dev/rdsk/c1t1d0s6 (servername:/bck) to standard output.
  |   DUMP: Mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
  |   DUMP: Mapping (Pass II) [directories]
  |   DUMP: Writing 32 Kilobyte records
  |   DUMP: Estimated 230640 blocks (112.62MB) on 0.00 tapes.
  |   DUMP: Dumping (Pass III) [directories]
  |   DUMP: Dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
  |   DUMP: 230590 blocks (112.59MB) on 1 volume at 10095 KB/sec
  |   DUMP: DUMP IS DONE
  sendbackup: size 115295
  sendbackup: end
  \

The above section shows that Amanda was not able to create temporary folders
in /tmp/ - but I checked it and it is not a disk issue as well as
permission? (I was able to manually create (as Amanda user) a new folder in
/tmp )
Any ideas why Amanda is having problem creating temporary folders?

Thx,
gil



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:17 AM
To: amanda-users@amanda.org
Subject: Re: Amanda's report


On Wednesday 16 February 2005 09:45, Gil Naveh wrote:
After running Amanda's backup, I receive an email with a report
 about the last backup.
The first section of that report is: FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP
 SUMMARY: and under this section I get the following message:

  FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY:
 servername/folder/to/backup lev 0 STRANGE

You didn't post all the summary, so we can't guess really well.

What does STRANGE means?

What it usually means here is that some file changed while it was
being read, like here, I get squawks about mail files from time to
time because kmail is running 24/7, and may do a mail fetch run,or
decide to purge old messages while amanda is running.

I checked the data that was backed up on the tape and was able to
 restore it - should I ignore that message or what does Amanda tries
 to tell me?

Dunno, post the rest of summary and we'll take a look.

Many thanks,
gil

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amrecover + build in security protocols

2005-02-09 Thread Gil Naveh

Ok, so I have started deploying Amanda to backup our local Servers - but I
want to start deploying it on the remote servers.
Amanda Server is one of our Solaris machine. This machine is also Amanda
client - being backed up by Amanda.

I was able to backup data to it and recover it with Amrecover.
But what happens if this Server crashes?? How can I recover data from the
tapes?

Additionally, I am thinking to deploying Kerberos over Amanda and it might
take me some times to figure it out.
In the mean time, I read about Amanda that: It was designed with data
security in mind. It uses its own network protocols, so it does not suffer
from the security problems. Does anyone knows what kind of network security
it has?

Thanks,
gil




RE: Amanda security +Kerberos

2005-02-09 Thread Gil Naveh
Thanks for the help.

Unfortunately in my case, rsync won't work because I have to backup about 20
servers and I don't have the disk capacity for it.

Thx,
gil

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Subject: Re: Amanda security +Kerberos


On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 02:13:57PM -0500, Gil Naveh wrote:
 hi,
 I am a little confused regarding adding security to Amanda.
 In the past I posted a question regarding adding security to Amanda -
 We have a Solaris 9 machine which is Amanda server and a remote Solaris 9
 machine which is Amanda client.
 We need the data that is transferring from the client to the server be
 secure.
 People have kindly answered my question but I am still confused.
 Some have suggested to use sftp or ssh - bring those files to the server
and
 then backing it up locally.
 However, by implementing this technique I am over loading the network -
 because I have to ssh or sftp all files daily instead of letting Amanda
get
 only the changes (level 0,1 etc). But is there a way to implement ssh/sftp
 with Amanda?

perhaps you could use rsync over ssh to pull only the changes.
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RE: AMLABEL - might be a bug in amtapetype

2005-02-08 Thread Gil Naveh
Hello and thanks,

So it turn out that my suspicious were correct.
After rerunning amtapetype twice on our Solaris 9 server I got the
configuration for Ultrium2-LTO slightly different and with the new results
amlabel worked fine :)
In the first run I got the following result:
define tapetype unknown-tapetype {
comment just produced by tapetype prog (hardware compression off)
length 207465 mbytes
filemark 939 kbytes
speed 17489 kps
}
But Amanda could not identify my tape drive.

In the second run I got the following results:
define tapetype unknown-tapetype {
comment just produced by tapetype prog (hardware compression off)
length 206819 mbytes
filemark 918 kbytes
speed 17477 kps
}
which worked fine.


Anyway, I'll publish the results for the Ultrium-LTO2 tape drive on Amanda's
website.

Thx,
gil


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 10:48 PM
To: amanda-users@amanda.org
Subject: Re: AMLABEL


On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:06:09PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Monday 07 February 2005 18:31, Paul Bijnens wrote:
 Gil Naveh wrote:
  Gene - thanks for trying to help,
 
  Currently the only reason that I can think of is that Amanda has
  not read correctly our tape drive so I am re-running
  #amtapetype -f /dev/rmt/0n
 
 Add an estimate value!  And it takes about 5 hours only. Without
 an estimate it takes a week or so.  Like this:
 
amtapetype -f /dev/rmt/0n -e 200g
 
 On the other hand, writing a few bytes is enough to see it the drive
 works.
 
 About the problem: you did specify that device in your amanda.conf ?
 (I believe that was what Gene was hinting about.)

 Chuckle, yup.  Sometimes I get my tongue tangled up with my eyeteeth,
 and can't see what I'm writing...  Corrections in that case are
 always welcome. :-)

With the ultrium it is less important about considering HW or SW
compression.  But be aware that on Solaris whether HW compression
is turned on or not is determined by the device you choose.  You
will find lots of /dev/rmt/0xyz devices.  The xyz determines
the properties of the device the driver will set upon opening it.

Don't be fooled into assumptions about the various devices.  The
c device is listed as compressed.  But that is the conventional
use.  There is no certainty that it turns compression on for every
device, or that devices without the c are no compression.  You
will even have a c device for drives that are not capable of
HW compression ;-)  Only way to tell is check the docs for the
drive and settings for the driver.  And then I'd check it if I
could.

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RE: AMLABEL - might be a bug in amtapetype

2005-02-08 Thread Gil Naveh
The issue I had was that the first time I run amtapetype the result was a
little off.
Which was painful because it takes a few hours to run it.
yet, it might not be a bug - the reason I put it in the subject was that
people would notice it.

Thx,
gil


-Original Message-
From: Paul Bijnens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 9:27 AM
To: Gil Naveh
Cc: amanda-users@amanda.org
Subject: Re: AMLABEL - might be a bug in amtapetype


Gil Naveh wrote:

 Hello and thanks,

 So it turn out that my suspicious were correct.

Which suspicions?

 After rerunning amtapetype twice on our Solaris 9 server I got the
 configuration for Ultrium2-LTO slightly different and with the new results
 amlabel worked fine :)
 In the first run I got the following result:
   define tapetype unknown-tapetype {
   comment just produced by tapetype prog (hardware compression off)
   length 207465 mbytes
   filemark 939 kbytes
   speed 17489 kps
   }
 But Amanda could not identify my tape drive.

 In the second run I got the following results:
   define tapetype unknown-tapetype {
   comment just produced by tapetype prog (hardware compression off)
   length 206819 mbytes
   filemark 918 kbytes
   speed 17477 kps
   }
 which worked fine.


 Anyway, I'll publish the results for the Ultrium-LTO2 tape drive on
Amanda's
 website.

And what kind of bug have you found, as the subject seems to imply?


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Amanda security with Kerberos

2005-02-08 Thread gil naveh
hi,

I am a little confused regarding adding security to
Amanda.
In the past I posted a question regarding adding
security to Amanda - 
We have a Solaris 9 machine which is Amanda server and
a remote Solaris 9 machine which is Amanda client.
We need the data that is transferring from the client
to the server be secure.
People have kindly answered my question but I am still
confused.
Some have suggested to use sftp or ssh - bring those
files to the server and then backing it up locally.
However, by implementing this technique I am over
loading the network - because I have to ssh or sftp
all files daily instead of letting Amanda get only the
changes (level 0,1 etc). But is there a way to
implement ssh/sftp with Amanda? 


Anyway I am trying to implement Kerberos and I have a
few questions about it.
I am trying to follow the documentation in Amanda for
kerberos - so far I downloaded the file
amanda-krb4-2.4.0p1.tar.gz - I unzipped it and tared
it (tar xvf). Yet I don't know what the next step
should be - configure+make??? Additionally the
KERBEROS doc for Amanda under the INSTALLATION section
says:
 2. INSTALLATION
   The kerberized Amanda service uses a different port
on the client hosts.
   The /etc/services line is:

   kamanda  10081/udp 

Then what should be the host on the server site?
Finally how can I test that Kerberos encryption works
with Amanda?

Please note that our Amanda server and client are
Solaris 9 boxes but in the future we might implement
it on Win boxes (is it feasible to implement Kerberos
on Win box?)

Thanks much,
gil




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Amanda security +Kerberos

2005-02-08 Thread Gil Naveh
hi,

I am a little confused regarding adding security to Amanda.
In the past I posted a question regarding adding security to Amanda -
We have a Solaris 9 machine which is Amanda server and a remote Solaris 9
machine which is Amanda client.
We need the data that is transferring from the client to the server be
secure.
People have kindly answered my question but I am still confused.
Some have suggested to use sftp or ssh - bring those files to the server and
then backing it up locally.
However, by implementing this technique I am over loading the network -
because I have to ssh or sftp all files daily instead of letting Amanda get
only the changes (level 0,1 etc). But is there a way to implement ssh/sftp
with Amanda?


Anyway I am trying to implement Kerberos and I have a few questions about
it.
I am trying to follow the documentation in Amanda for kerberos - so far I
downloaded the file amanda-krb4-2.4.0p1.tar.gz - I unzipped it and tared it
(tar xvf). Yet I don't know what the next step should be - configure+make???
Additionally the KERBEROS doc for Amanda under the INSTALLATION section
says:
 2. INSTALLATION
   The kerberized Amanda service uses a different port on the client hosts.
   The /etc/services line is:

   kamanda  10081/udp 

Then what should be the host on the server site?
Finally how can I test that Kerberos encryption works with Amanda?

Please note that our Amanda server and client are Solaris 9 boxes but in the
future we might implement it on Win boxes (is it feasible to implement
Kerberos on Win box?)

Thanks much,
gil



AMLABEL

2005-02-07 Thread Gil Naveh

Hello,

We have a new tape drive but I am unsuccessfully running amlabel.
Some background:
I was successfully running amlabel on HARD-DISK.
I modified amanda.conf file to accommodate the new tape drive
specifications:
  I added the new tape drive spec - which I got through running amtapetype.
  with the following :

  define tape type ULTRIUM2-LTO{
comment just produced by tape type prog (hardware compression off)
length 207465 mbytes
filemark 939 kbytes
speed 17489 kps
}

and added the following line in the 'main' section in amanda.conf
   tape type ULTRIUM2-LTO

But when I run the command:
# amlabel DailySet1 DailySet1001
The system ask me:
#insert tape into slot 1 and press return
Even though the tape is already in! - I tried to eject and insert the tape
but it again requested me to insert a tape!
Is it because Amanda could not identify my tape drive?
Or maybe it is related to my previous testing of Amanda with our hard-drive.
I successfully labeled our hard-drive and recently I comment it out and
labeled the new tape drive?


Thanks much,
gil





FW: AMLABEL

2005-02-07 Thread Gil Naveh

The Operating system is Solaris 9
and tape drive is under /dev/rmt/0n which is the defualt for Solaris.

Thx,
gil 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gene Heskett
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 12:43 PM
To: amanda-users@amanda.org
Cc: Gil Naveh
Subject: Re: AMLABEL


On Monday 07 February 2005 10:56, Gil Naveh wrote:
Hello,

We have a new tape drive but I am unsuccessfully running amlabel.
Some background:
I was successfully running amlabel on HARD-DISK.
I modified amanda.conf file to accommodate the new tape drive
specifications:
  I added the new tape drive spec - which I got through running
 amtapetype. with the following :

  define tape type ULTRIUM2-LTO{
comment just produced by tape type prog (hardware compression
 off) length 207465 mbytes
filemark 939 kbytes
speed 17489 kps
}

and added the following line in the 'main' section in amanda.conf
   tape type ULTRIUM2-LTO

But when I run the command:
# amlabel DailySet1 DailySet1001
The system ask me:
#insert tape into slot 1 and press return
Even though the tape is already in! - I tried to eject and insert
 the tape but it again requested me to insert a tape!
Is it because Amanda could not identify my tape drive?
Or maybe it is related to my previous testing of Amanda with our
 hard-drive. I successfully labeled our hard-drive and recently I
 comment it out and labeled the new tape drive?

This would suggest that the tape device really isn't the right tape 
device.  Which /dev/??? do you have it set to, and what OS?


Thanks much,
gil

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RE: AMLABEL

2005-02-07 Thread Gil Naveh
Gene - thanks for trying to help,

Currently the only reason that I can think of is that Amanda has not read
correctly our tape drive so I am re-running
#amtapetype -f /dev/rmt/0n

By tomorrow I'll see what the results are and hopefully it should work...
Any thoughts why amlabel is not working are mostly welcome.

gil


-Original Message-
From: Gene Heskett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 5:52 PM
To: Gil Naveh
Subject: Re: AMLABEL


On Monday 07 February 2005 13:57, Gil Naveh wrote:
The Operating system is Solaris 9
and tape drive is under /dev/rmt/0n which is the defualt for
 Solaris.

Thx,
gil

Ok, then thats out of my field of expertise (such as it is), so take
this back to the mailing list where Jon LaBadie seems to be our
resident solaris expert, he can probably help you where I would be
making only SWAG's.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gene Heskett
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 12:43 PM
To: amanda-users@amanda.org
Cc: Gil Naveh
Subject: Re: AMLABEL

On Monday 07 February 2005 10:56, Gil Naveh wrote:
Hello,

We have a new tape drive but I am unsuccessfully running amlabel.
Some background:
I was successfully running amlabel on HARD-DISK.
I modified amanda.conf file to accommodate the new tape drive
specifications:
  I added the new tape drive spec - which I got through running
 amtapetype. with the following :

  define tape type ULTRIUM2-LTO{
comment just produced by tape type prog (hardware compression
 off) length 207465 mbytes
filemark 939 kbytes
speed 17489 kps
}

and added the following line in the 'main' section in amanda.conf
   tape type ULTRIUM2-LTO

But when I run the command:
# amlabel DailySet1 DailySet1001
The system ask me:
#insert tape into slot 1 and press return
Even though the tape is already in! - I tried to eject and insert
 the tape but it again requested me to insert a tape!
Is it because Amanda could not identify my tape drive?
Or maybe it is related to my previous testing of Amanda with our
 hard-drive. I successfully labeled our hard-drive and recently I
 comment it out and labeled the new tape drive?

This would suggest that the tape device really isn't the right tape
device.  Which /dev/??? do you have it set to, and what OS?

Thanks much,
gil

--
Cheers, Gene
There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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Getting Amanda to production

2005-02-04 Thread Gil Naveh
hello,

I have a few question in mind so I'll be able to better configure it.
1) So far I tested Amanda and backed up data on a hard drive and am quit
happy with the results. Recently we got a new tape drive and I need to start
backing up our data into taps. I am going to use the same Amanda server and
clients. Should and if so how do I initialize Amanda so it won't care about
previous backups? Additionally I'll probably have to do some more testing in
order to see how much time/bandwidth Amanda uses when it backup to our tape
drive. But after doing those tests - can I delete those files from the tape?

2) I understand that Amanda has its algorithm that decides when do to a full
backup, or an incremental one.
   But I am a little confused with labeling tapes. (amlabel)
   When I used the hard-disk I define each hard-drive 'partition' as 4GB and
then amlabel each disk e.g.
   #/usr/sbin/amlabel DailySet1 HISS01 slot 1
   #/usr/sbin/amlabel DailySet1 HISS02 slot 2 ...
   However, I have tapes that each can store 400 compress data, and we have
to store about 30GB - am I domed to use each tape for one backup - or can I
'partition' those tapes?
  Do I have to put each tape in the tape drive and run amlabel?

3) We have a local and remote sites that we have to backup any thoughts,
comments on what should I keep in mine before doing so. Additionally any
recommendation for what to use to secure our data when backing up remotely?
I read that I can use TCP wrappers but how do I implement it with Amanda?

4) Finally, we have one tape drive and about 20 servers that we need to
backup from. Some of those servers run on Solaris, some on Windows. Can I
back all servers on the same tape, or do I need to set separate tapes for
Win machines?


Many thanks,
gil



RE: Getting Amanda to production

2005-02-04 Thread Gil Naveh
Thanks Gavin and Jon,
Wow that was great help.

Regarding my first question, what should I do with the 'old' labels (the
hard disk) can I delete them?
if not how Amanda knows to write on the new tape drive and not on the hard
disk.

Sincerely,
gil


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jon LaBadie
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 3:46 PM
To: Amanda-Users
Subject: Re: Getting Amanda to production


On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 02:43:55PM -0500, Gil Naveh wrote:
 hello,

 I have a few question in mind so I'll be able to better configure it.
 1) So far I tested Amanda and backed up data on a hard drive and am quit
 happy with the results. Recently we got a new tape drive and I need to
start
 backing up our data into taps. I am going to use the same Amanda server
and
 clients. Should and if so how do I initialize Amanda so it won't care
about
 previous backups? Additionally I'll probably have to do some more testing
in
 order to see how much time/bandwidth Amanda uses when it backup to our
tape
 drive. But after doing those tests - can I delete those files from the
tape?

I'd start a different config for the tape.  Currently you probably
do a cronjob with amdump vtapeconfig, simply comment that out entry and
add an amdump realtapeconfig.  That way, if you ever need to do vtape
backups again, you can just uncomment it.


 2) I understand that Amanda has its algorithm that decides when do to a
full
 backup, or an incremental one.
But I am a little confused with labeling tapes. (amlabel)
When I used the hard-disk I define each hard-drive 'partition' as 4GB
and
 then amlabel each disk e.g.
#/usr/sbin/amlabel DailySet1 HISS01 slot 1
#/usr/sbin/amlabel DailySet1 HISS02 slot 2 ...
However, I have tapes that each can store 400 compress data, and we
have
 to store about 30GB - am I domed to use each tape for one backup

yes

 - or can I 'partition' those tapes?

no

What some who have a large holding disk(s) space is to let several dump runs
collect on the holding disk(s) by not putting a tape in the drive.
Amrecover,
I'm pretty sure, works with the taped or holding disk dumps.  Then insert a
tape and amflush them to tape.

   Do I have to put each tape in the tape drive and run amlabel?

yes

 3) We have a local and remote sites that we have to backup any thoughts,
 comments on what should I keep in mine before doing so. Additionally any
 recommendation for what to use to secure our data when backing up
remotely?
 I read that I can use TCP wrappers but how do I implement it with Amanda?

Don't bring them all on line at the same time.  Make all your disklist
entries
but put a # sign to comment them out.  Uncomment a couple each dump.  Run
amcheck
with several from each client uncommented BEFORE even thinking about a dump.
Maybe use your vtape config to test drive a client before moving them to the
big show.


 4) Finally, we have one tape drive and about 20 servers that we need to
 backup from. Some of those servers run on Solaris, some on Windows. Can I
 back all servers on the same tape, or do I need to set separate tapes for
 Win machines?


Both can share a config.  Lots of ways to do the M$ machines, none fully
satisfactory.  Samba clients to one or several of your unix hosts, nfs
shares if your M$ boxes are nfs servers (possibly from M$'s free Services
For Unix product - SFU), some windows backup program that writes to a file
and backup that single file/directory with amanda, install cygwin on each
box and install amanda so it looks like a unix host.  Many limitations to
backing up M$ boxes, set your expectations low and you won't be unhappy.


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RE: Getting Amanda to production

2005-02-04 Thread Gil Naveh
ok you can laugh at me :)
but I don't understand something with amlabel:
how does it knows which tape drive I am referring to? since the command
looks like:
#amlabel DailySet1 labelname

thx,
gil

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jon LaBadie
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 5:13 PM
To: amanda-users@amanda.org
Subject: Re: Getting Amanda to production


On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 05:02:59PM -0500, Gil Naveh wrote:
 Thanks Gavin and Jon,
 Wow that was great help.

 Regarding my first question, what should I do with the 'old' labels (the
 hard disk) can I delete them?

Are they important to you?

 if not how Amanda knows to write on the new tape drive and not on the hard
 disk.

How did it know to write to the vtapes?  You told it where to write.
How will it know where to write to the real tapes?  You will tell it.


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mounting/identifying a new tape drive

2005-02-03 Thread Gil Naveh
Hello,

I have a Solaris 9 box and we bought a new tape drive model Certance LTO-2.
Currently, I am trying to identify the tape drive using amtapetype command
but it does not work.


Let me go a step back and describe what I did so far.
I connected the new tape drive to our Solaris 9 server and I restarted
Solaris.
Next in order to see that the server identified the new hardware I typed:
#iostat -En
and received the following output regarding the tape drive:
# rmt/0   Soft Errors: 0 Hard Errors: 0 Transport Errors: 0
# Vendor: CERTANCE Product: ULTRIUM 2Revision: 1703 Serial No:
5150-400

Finally, I want to run the amtapetype to identify the tape type definition
but was enable to do so!
When I typed:
#amtapetype: /dev/rmt
I received the following error message:
#amtapetype: /dev/rmt: rewinding tape: Inappropriate ioctl for device

When I typed:
# amtapetype: /dev/rmt/0
OR
#amtapetype -f /dev/rst13
OR
#amtapetype -f /dev/nrst13
The output is :
# amtapetype: could not open /dev/nst13: No such file or directory

Any idea why I am getting those error messages and whether I miss a step in
defining a new tape drive, or any command that describe where the new tape
drive is mounted?

This is propably a silly question but I am stuck so any help is welcome...

Thanks for your help,
gil



RE: mounting/identifying a new tape drive

2005-02-03 Thread Gil Naveh
Great,
Thanks much for the help :)

According to the manufacture I have to add in the file st.conf the tape
device configuration and then reboot -r.
But do I realy have to reboot -r? or does typing devfsadm -c tape would be
enough?

After modifying the file dt.conf according to manufacture spec
I tried:
 rm -f /dev/rmt/*
 devfsadm -c tape
but I don't think it identified the new tape drive...
mt -f /dev/rmt/0n
I got:
/dev/rmt/0n: no tape loaded or drive offline

Rebooting the server is a little painful - users has to logout etc.

Thx,
gil


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Cuttler
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 1:34 PM
To: Eric Siegerman
Cc: Amanda-Users
Subject: Re: mounting/identifying a new tape drive


On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 01:18:44PM -0500, Eric Siegerman wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 12:47:34PM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote:
rm -f /dev/rmt/*
devfsadm -c tape

 Does that do (the tape-related subset of) the same thing as a
 reconfiguration boot, i.e. with -r?


Eric,

I believe that -C -c tape does the equiv of -r on reboot but only
for tape devices. -c for create, -C for cleanup.

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RE: mounting/identifying a new tape drive

2005-02-03 Thread Gil Naveh
YE, thank you Eric,Jon, and Brian :)

It's the first time I'm doing it so I needed some help.






-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Siegerman
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 4:03 PM
To: Amanda-Users
Subject: Re: mounting/identifying a new tape drive


On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 03:02:36PM -0500, Gil Naveh wrote:
 but I don't think it identified the new tape drive...
 mt -f /dev/rmt/0n
 I got:
 /dev/rmt/0n: no tape loaded or drive offline

On the contrary, I think that means your devfsadm command *did*
work.  You're now getting a tape-specific error message, instead
of a generic one; that means the system now understands that
/dev/rmt/0n is in fact a tape drive.

So, taking the message at face value ... Was there a tape loaded?
Was the drive online?

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Backup priorities and initialization of backup

2005-01-11 Thread Gil Naveh








Hello, I am quit new with Amanda and I dont understand an
important concept regarding Amanda.

I realize that Amanda decides what type of backup to perform (level 0 ,
level 1 etc) according to its algorithm.

However, how does it knows which backup level to perform when a user
have a tape drive with X different tapes that are manually changed? Is there a
file that tells Amanda which backups has been performed and if so what is this
file name?

Finally, so far I have been changing the file disklist in order to
check different backup scenarios. The file tapelist was automatically updated:

The new tapelist file looks like:

20041222 DailySet105 reuse

20041222 DailySet104 reuse etc



At this point, I want to run the backup  which means I have to initialize
all my experiments so far  any ideas on how to do so?

Which files do I have to modify in addition to the disklist file.



Thanks,

Gil












Tape drive question

2004-12-22 Thread Gil Naveh
Hi, Does anybody have experience with configuring Amanda with tape drive
DELL CL 400H?
Any expected issues to arise using this tape drive with Amanda?

thx,
gil



troubleshot getting Amanda to work on a remote host

2004-12-17 Thread Gil Naveh
Hi,

I have a local server and a remote client, both run Oracle 9.
When I tries to run amcheck from the server to the remote client I get the
following error message:
ERROR: hostname: [addr 38.128.57.138: hostname lookup failed]

Any ideas on how to troubleshot it. - Is it a network problem? yet, I can
ping, ftp, ssh to the remote machine. Or did I miss something when I
configure Amanda?

Many Thanks :),
gil



getting information regarding tape drives

2004-12-16 Thread Gil Naveh
hello,

I have to do some research and compare different backup alternative for our
network.
So far I am convince that Amada would be the application to do the backup
for us.
Yet, I am not sure about the hardware - tape drive, jukebox(if needed), or
even hard disk. but I could not find a good site that compares between the
different alternatives. I purchased the book 'Unix Backup  Recovery' by
Oreli but I need more specific information regarding hardware that would
enable me to make the best decision on what equipment to purchase.
Can someone recommend good website, white papers, book etc. I am quit new in
doing backups and am looking for a backup solution that would be reliable,
performance effective (time, easy to maintain, easy to configure,compatible
with Amanda) and cost effective.

Thanks,
gil



getting information regarding tape drives

2004-12-16 Thread gil naveh

 hello,
 
 I have to do some research and compare different
 backup alternative for our network.
 So far I am convince that Amada would be the
 application to do the backup for us.
 Yet, I am not sure about the hardware - tape drive,
 jukebox(if needed), or even hard disk. but I could
 not
 find a good site that compares between the different
 alternatives. I purchased the book 'Unix Backup 
 Recovery' by Oreli but I need more specific
 information regarding hardware that would enable me
 to
 make the best decision on what equipment to
 purchase.
 Can someone recommend good website, white papers,
 book
 etc. I am quit new in doing backups and am looking
 for
 a backup solution that would be reliable,
 performance
 effective (time, easy to maintain, easy to
 configure,compatible with Amanda) and cost
 effective.
 
 Thanks,
 gil
 



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RE: a problem backing up a window machine

2004-12-15 Thread Gil Naveh
Thanks much Paul,

Your English is quit good and eventually I successfully run the amcheck on
the window box :)

Yet, I was not able to back up a shared folder on a window box.
Is it possible to backup a shared folder instead of a full drive like:
 //machine_name/shared_folder instead of //machine_name/c$
and if so what is the syntax?

Thx,
gil

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Bijnens
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 5:23 PM
To: Gil Naveh
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: a problem backing up a window machine


Gil Naveh wrote:

 Thanks for the help.
 However, when I am following through the example you gave me.
 ACA I updated the /etc/amandapass and I have created a domain account with
 admin privileges.
 Yet, when I run the command
 smbclient /etc/amandapass //machine_name/c$ user%passwd mydomain
 I get the following error message:
   session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
 Any idea why and how to debug it?

I know my english is not very good (actually it is quiet bad,
as I used to say), but when I follow my example the command
becomes:

smbclient '//machine_name/c$' -U  user%passwd -W mydomain

Note:
- there is no mention of /etc/amandapass, that's is the
   file where amanda gets the information to fill in here
- there are single quotes around the sharename, otherwise
   the dollar-sign would give trouble in the shell
- there is a -U string before the user and the -W string
   before the domain;  I hope you do understand the basic
   conventions used in unix command line program to give options.
- if the password contains any special characters for the shell,
   then you need quotes around here too.




 Thanks much,
 gil

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Bijnens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 3:56 AM
 To: Gil Naveh
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: a problembacking up a window machine


 Gil Naveh wrote:

Does it means that I have not configured Samba currectly?
Any examples on how to test Samba are mostly welcome


 In /etc/amandapass you find lines like:

 Hostname+share  username%Password  DOMAIN
 === =  =
 //homeros/d$amanda%secret  MYDOMAIN


 This implies that you have a you have a MS-Windows PC
 named homeros, which is part of the domain MYDOMAIN,
 and you have created a domainaccount with administrative
 priviledges named amanda, wich password secret.

 To test this with smbclient, do:

 smbclient '//homeros/d$' -U 'amanda%secret' -W MYDOMAIN

 And you should get the smb: -prompt, and type e.g. dir
 to list the files.

 If you add on each PC a local user instead of the domain user,
 then you should not add the MYDOMAIN value to /etc/amandapass,
 and test without the -W MYDOMAIN option for smbclient, of course.



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getting information regarding tape drives

2004-12-15 Thread Gil Naveh
hello,

I have to do some research and compare different backup alternative for our
network.
So far I am convince that Amada would be the application to do the backup
for us.
Yet, I am not sure about the hardware - tape drive might also be a jukebox,
but I could not find a good site that compares between the different
alternatives.
Can someone recommend good website, white papers etc, I am quit new in doing
backups and am locking for alternative that would be reliable, performance
effective (time, easy to maintain, compatible with Amanda) and cost
effective.

Thanks,
gil




getting information regarding tape drives

2004-12-15 Thread Gil Naveh
hello,

I have to do some research and compare different backup alternative for our
network.
So far I am convince that Amada would be the application to do the backup
for us.
Yet, I am not sure about the hardware - tape drive might also be a jukebox,
but I could not find a good site that compares between the different
alternatives.
Can someone recommend good website, white papers etc, I am quit new in doing
backups and am locking for alternative that would be reliable, performance
effective (time, easy to maintain, compatible with Amanda) and cost
effective.

Thanks,
gil



RE: a problem backing up a window machine

2004-12-14 Thread Gil Naveh
Thanks for the help.
However, when I am following through the example you gave me.
ACA I updated the /etc/amandapass and I have created a domain account with
admin privileges.
Yet, when I run the command
smbclient /etc/amandapass //machine_name/c$ user%passwd mydomain
I get the following error message:
  session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
Any idea why and how to debug it?

Thanks much,
gil

-Original Message-
From: Paul Bijnens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 3:56 AM
To: Gil Naveh
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: a problembacking up a window machine


Gil Naveh wrote:

 Does it means that I have not configured Samba currectly?
 Any examples on how to test Samba are mostly welcome

In /etc/amandapass you find lines like:

Hostname+share  username%Password  DOMAIN
=== =  =
//homeros/d$amanda%secret  MYDOMAIN


This implies that you have a you have a MS-Windows PC
named homeros, which is part of the domain MYDOMAIN,
and you have created a domainaccount with administrative
priviledges named amanda, wich password secret.

To test this with smbclient, do:

smbclient '//homeros/d$' -U 'amanda%secret' -W MYDOMAIN

And you should get the smb: -prompt, and type e.g. dir
to list the files.

If you add on each PC a local user instead of the domain user,
then you should not add the MYDOMAIN value to /etc/amandapass,
and test without the -W MYDOMAIN option for smbclient, of course.


--
Paul Bijnens, XplanationTel  +32 16 397.511
Technologielaan 21 bus 2, B-3001 Leuven, BELGIUMFax  +32 16 397.512
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* quit,  ZZ, :q, :q!,  M-Z, ^X^C,  logoff, logout, close, bye,  /bye, *
* stop, end, F3, ~., ^]c, +++ ATH, disconnect, halt,  abort,  hangup, *
* PF4, F20, ^X^X, :D::D, KJOB, F14-f-e, F8-e,  kill -1 $$,  shutdown, *
* kill -9 1,  Alt-F4,  Ctrl-Alt-Del,  AltGr-NumLock,  Stop-A,  ...*
* ...  Are you sure?  ...   YES   ...   Phew ...   I'm out  *
***




using Amanda remotely

2004-12-13 Thread Gil Naveh
hello,

We have servers(Solaris 9) on two different locations and when I am running
amcheck I get the following error message:
 WARNING: host2name.com: self check request timed out.  Host down?
 Client check: 1 host checked in 30.029 seconds, 1 problem found
I can ssh remotely the server. I already set the .amandahosts with the
appropriate hosts on both the Amanda server(localy) and on the remote Amanda
client to allow access to this host.

Do I miss something with the configuration? - I had no problem backing up
different servers on the same site.

Thanks,
gil



RE: using Amanda remotely

2004-12-13 Thread Gil Naveh
Thanks guys,

It might be a firewall issue.
gil

-Original Message-
From: Frank Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 12:21 PM
To: Gil Naveh; Amanda-Users
Subject: Re: using Amanda remotely


--On Monday, December 13, 2004 12:01:46 -0500 Gil Naveh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hello,

 We have servers(Solaris 9) on two different locations and when I am
running
 amcheck I get the following error message:
  WARNING: host2name.com: self check request timed out.  Host down?
  Client check: 1 host checked in 30.029 seconds, 1 problem found
 I can ssh remotely the server. I already set the .amandahosts with the
 appropriate hosts on both the Amanda server(localy) and on the remote
Amanda
 client to allow access to this host.

 Do I miss something with the configuration? - I had no problem backing up
 different servers on the same site.

 Thanks,
 gil

In addition to what Brian suggested, verify that any firewalls
(or router ACLs) between the servers allow Amanda traffic.  If
you haven't compiled Amanda with the portrange options, it needs
to be faily wide open in both directions.

Frank


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RE: a problembacking up a window machine

2004-12-13 Thread Gil Naveh
Thanks for the responce.
I don't have much experience working with Samba.
My test on the Unix server was:
# cat testfile.txt | smbclient -M window-name
I received a pop up with testfile.txt contant.

however when I type:
# smbclient -L window-client-name -N
I get the following error message:
  Anonymous login successful
  Domain=[CLEVEREX] OS=[Windows 5.0] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager]

Sharename  Type  Comment
-    ---
  Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED

Server   Comment
----

WorkgroupMaster
----

Does it means that I have not configured Samba currectly?
Any examples on how to test Samba are mostly welcome

Thanks much,
gil


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jon LaBadie
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:51 PM
To: Amanda-Users
Subject: Re: a problembacking up a window machine


On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 02:27:41PM -0500, Gil Naveh wrote:

 hello,

 For the last couple of days I am unsuccessfully trying to backup a window
 machine(Win 2000) with Samba server(Solaris 9).
 I installed Samba on the Solaris server and successfully run and tested
 smbclient.
 Yet, I am unable to backup the 'Shared folder' on the window box.
 When running amcheck Amanda sends me the following error message:

   NOTE: info dir /usr/adm/amanda/DailySet1/curinfo/hostname.com: does not
 exist
   NOTE: index dir /usr/adm/amanda/DailySet1/index/hostname.com: does not
 exist

ignore these, they will exist when the first of hostname.com backup is done.


   Server check took 0.190 seconds

   Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check
   
   WARNING: hostname.com: selfcheck request timed out.  Host down?
   Client check: 1 host checked in 30.031 seconds, 1 problem found

 Additionally, I updated the file: /etc/amandapass with the following line:
  //Window-computer-name/share-folder-name
 username%password
 I created a shared folder on the Window machine.
 smbd and nmbd deamons are running!


Can you access the shares by hand with smbtar/smbclient?

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a problembacking up a window machine

2004-12-13 Thread Gil Naveh

hello,

For the last couple of days I am unsuccessfully trying to backup a window
machine(Win 2000) with Samba server(Solaris 9).
I installed Samba on the Solaris server and successfully run and tested
smbclient.
Yet, I am unable to backup the 'Shared folder' on the window box.
When running amcheck Amanda sends me the following error message:

  NOTE: info dir /usr/adm/amanda/DailySet1/curinfo/hostname.com: does not
exist
  NOTE: index dir /usr/adm/amanda/DailySet1/index/hostname.com: does not
exist
  Server check took 0.190 seconds

  Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check
  
  WARNING: hostname.com: selfcheck request timed out.  Host down?
  Client check: 1 host checked in 30.031 seconds, 1 problem found

Additionally, I updated the file: /etc/amandapass with the following line:
 //Window-computer-name/share-folder-name
username%password
I created a shared folder on the Window machine.
smbd and nmbd deamons are running!

Any thoughts, similar experience etc

Thanks much,
gil


configuring Amanda with Samba

2004-12-07 Thread Gil Naveh
hi,

I am trying to configure Amanda on a Solaris 9 server - I need to backup
both Unix computers and Windows computers.
I was able to backup the Unix server, BUT I could not backup the Windows
machine.
I installed SAMBA 3.0.9, HOWEVER when I run amcheck dirname I received the
following error message:
...session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE: returned 1

Any thoughts commends?
thx,
gil



Recommendation for tape drives

2004-12-03 Thread Gil Naveh

hi,

Can someone recommend a tape-drive that works well with Amanda and can
backup about 40-60GB.

Thx,
Gil



RE: Recommendation for tape drives

2004-12-03 Thread Gil Naveh
Some more specifications regarding getting a tape drive:
I have a Solaris 9 box which will be the Amanda server
I have to back up another Solaris box as well as a few Window2000 boxes.
The budget for the tape drive is about 500$ to 1000$ (without Jukebox - too
expensive)
I would like to use compression, yet I have no idea about the
compressibility of the data.

My preferences would be: 1) A device that can store 30GB or more. (most
important)
 2) Easy to configure with Amanda.(very impportant)
 3) Reliable (very impportant)
 3) Fast to record and recover (less important)
thx :)



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Cuttler
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:27 PM
To: Gil Naveh
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Recommendation for tape drives



Gil,

Amanda uses native utilities to write the tape drive.

If you tell us your OS we might have specific recommendations.

Do you have any idea the compressability of your data, and if you
want to use compression or not ? Jukebox ? Budget ?



On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 12:30:44PM -0500, Gil Naveh wrote:

 hi,

 Can someone recommend a tape-drive that works well with Amanda and can
 backup about 40-60GB.

 Thx,
 Gil

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