Re: [AMaViS-user] Fwd: Re: SpamAssassin Plugins

2009-08-30 Thread Jeff Grossman
On 8/29/2009 10:17 PM, Mike Cappella wrote:
 On 8/29/09 9:57 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote:
 On 8/29/2009 8:17 PM, Mike Cappella wrote:
   On 8/29/09 10:34 AM, Jeff Grossman wrote:
   How do I figure out where/how spamassassin is loading modules?
   According to my amavis logwatch report the following plugins are 
 being
   loaded.  But, I know for a fact that the AWL plugin is disabled 
 in the
   v310.pre file in /etc/spamassassin.  This is on a Debian testing
   system.  I did a grep of AWL in the /etc/spamassassin directory 
 and the
   only item that came up was the commented out line.  I then did a 
 grep of
   AWL in the /etc/amavis/conf.d directory and it came up empty.



   FYI:  It all comes from this amavis log line (ymmv):

   Aug 29 16:02:20 glacier amavis[14742]: SpamAssassin loaded plugins:
   AWL, AutoLearnThreshold, Bayes, BodyEval, Check, DCC, DKIM, DNSEval,
   HTMLEval, HTTPSMismatch, Hashcash, HeaderEval, ImageInfo, MIMEEval,
   MIMEHeader, Pyzor, Razor2, RelayEval, ReplaceTags, SPF, SpamCop,
   URIDNSBL, URIDetail, URIEval,

 The problem is that line doesn't tell you how the module was loaded.  In
 my case it was a .pre file located in /usr/share/spamassassin that was
 causing my problems.  During my initial troubleshooting I was only
 looking in /etc/spamassassin and /etc/amavis/conf.d which is where I
 thought all configuration files were located.

 Understood; it was just an FYI clarifying where the data comes from, 
 and that amavis-logwatch is only reporting what it is reads.

 And amavis doesn't likely know in which file the directive resides.  
 You can use a command such as this:

 # use sudo or su, as per your preference
 # change the -u user to suit your config

 $ sudo -H -u amavis spamassassin -t -Dall some-test-file  21 | egrep 
 'AWL|config: read file'

 to give you a list of .cf files to grep, and verify the loading of AWL 
 (or any plugin for that matter).

 -- 
 Mike
Thank you for that.  That line would have saved me a little bit of time 
because it would have told me exactly where my problem was.  I used a 
similar line by somebody else on the list and was able to figure it out 
by going to the lint output.

Thanks again for everybody's help on this.  I was able to figure it out 
and it was a conf file that I didn't even know existed.

Jeff

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[AMaViS-user] SpamAssassin Plugins

2009-08-29 Thread Jeff Grossman
How do I figure out where/how spamassassin is loading modules?  
According to my amavis logwatch report the following plugins are being 
loaded.  But, I know for a fact that the AWL plugin is disabled in the 
v310.pre file in /etc/spamassassin.  This is on a Debian testing 
system.  I did a grep of AWL in the /etc/spamassassin directory and the 
only item that came up was the commented out line.  I then did a grep of 
AWL in the /etc/amavis/conf.d directory and it came up empty.

  SpamAssassin plugins
  Loaded
  AWL
  AutoLearnThreshold
  Bayes
  BodyEval
  Check
  DKIM
  DNSEval
  HTMLEval
  HTTPSMismatch
  Hashcash
  HeaderEval
  ImageInfo
  MIMEEval
  MIMEHeader
  Pyzor
  Razor2
  RelayCountry
  RelayEval
  ReplaceTags
  SPF
  SpamCop
  URIDNSBL
  URIDetail
  URIEval
  VBounce
  WLBLEval
  WhiteListSubject
  iXhash


Thanks for any help you can offer me.

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Re: [AMaViS-user] SpamAssassin Plugins

2009-08-29 Thread Jeff Grossman
On 8/29/2009 1:56 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote:
 On Sat 29 Aug 2009 07:34:41 PM CEST, Jeff Grossman wrote


 How do I figure out where/how spamassassin is loading modules?
  
 spamassassin 21 -D --lint | less


Thank you.  I think I figured it out.

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Re: [AMaViS-user] SpamAssassin Plugins

2009-08-29 Thread Jeff Grossman
On 8/29/2009 5:42 PM, Sahil Tandon wrote:
 On Sat, 29 Aug 2009, Jeff Grossman wrote:


 On 8/29/2009 1:56 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote:
  
 On Sat 29 Aug 2009 07:34:41 PM CEST, Jeff Grossman wrote



 How do I figure out where/how spamassassin is loading modules?

  
 spamassassin 21 -D --lint | less



 Thank you.  I think I figured it out.
  
 Share your findings for posterity.  I have a few guesses about your situation
 but would like to hear it from you.  Thanks.


I tried Spamassassin signatures from openprotect.com last week and it 
installed a .pre file which I guess loaded up all of the Spamassassin 
plugins.  Once I removed that, it is no longer loading the plugins that 
I don't want.

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[AMaViS-user] Fwd: Re: SpamAssassin Plugins

2009-08-29 Thread Jeff Grossman
On 8/29/2009 8:17 PM, Mike Cappella wrote:
  On 8/29/09 10:34 AM, Jeff Grossman wrote:
  How do I figure out where/how spamassassin is loading modules?
  According to my amavis logwatch report the following plugins are being
  loaded.  But, I know for a fact that the AWL plugin is disabled in the
  v310.pre file in /etc/spamassassin.  This is on a Debian testing
  system.  I did a grep of AWL in the /etc/spamassassin directory and the
  only item that came up was the commented out line.  I then did a grep of
  AWL in the /etc/amavis/conf.d directory and it came up empty.



  FYI:  It all comes from this amavis log line (ymmv):

  Aug 29 16:02:20 glacier amavis[14742]: SpamAssassin loaded plugins:
  AWL, AutoLearnThreshold, Bayes, BodyEval, Check, DCC, DKIM, DNSEval,
  HTMLEval, HTTPSMismatch, Hashcash, HeaderEval, ImageInfo, MIMEEval,
  MIMEHeader, Pyzor, Razor2, RelayEval, ReplaceTags, SPF, SpamCop,
  URIDNSBL, URIDetail, URIEval,

The problem is that line doesn't tell you how the module was loaded.  In
my case it was a .pre file located in /usr/share/spamassassin that was
causing my problems.  During my initial troubleshooting I was only
looking in /etc/spamassassin and /etc/amavis/conf.d which is where I
thought all configuration files were located.

Sorry, I meant to send this to the list.


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Re: [AMaViS-user] Configuration Question

2009-08-10 Thread Jeff Grossman
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:26:07 +0200, Mark Martinec
mark.martinec+ama...@ijs.si wrote:
 Jeff,
 
  1 Open relay? Nonlocal recips but not originating: recip1
 
 The mail passed to amavisd-new doesn't have it's originating flag
 
 I never responded to this e-mail, but wanted to say thank you.
 Everything that you said in this message worked perfectly and I am no
 longer getting the error message in my log files.
 
 Apart from setting the originating flag, the other half of your
 problem is/was that recipient 'recip1' was not a fully-qualified
 domain name, so it probably doesn't match your @local_domains_maps,
 unless you specified your individual recipient names there.
 
 You should configure your MTA to always append a domain name
 on recipient (and sender) addresses on mail submission if domain name
 is missing, or just reject such non-FQDN addresses (depending on site
 policy and practices).
 
   Mark

Actually I removed the e-mail addresses and put the recip1 in myself.  The
actual e-mail message is a fully-qualified domain name.  So, the only
problem I had was the originating flag getting set.  Once I did that
everything worked as I expected.  I no longer get the Are you an open
relay in the postfix logwatch program.

Thanks again for your help.

Jeff

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Re: [AMaViS-user] Configuration Question

2009-08-07 Thread Jeff Grossman
MrC lists-ama...@cappella.us wrote:

Jeff,

On 7/27/2009 1:32 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote:
 I am running Postfix 2.6.2 and Amavis 2.6.4 together. Everything is
 running smoothly except for one problem. When a user connects remotely and
 sends a message, I get the following line in my amavis-logwatch output:

 1   *Warning: Security risk
 -
 1  Open relay? Nonlocal recips but not originating: recip1

 I have asked about this on the Logwatcher mailing list, but I was told it
 was an Amavis configuration problem.  What setting do I either have
 incorrect or not have at all to remove this error from the amavis-logwatch
 output?


I saw your post, but had believed it was answered to your satisfaction, 
so didn't contribute anything.

Here's the basic idea, as others have mentioned.

You want something similar to the submission service listed below in 
postfix's master.cf file (note the content_filter setting and port 
number of 10026):

master.cf:

submission inet n   -   n   -   -   smtpd
-o content_filter=lmtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10026
-o smtpd_tls_security_level=encrypt
-o smtpd_tls_auth_only=yes
-o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
-o broken_sasl_auth_clients=yes
-o receive_override_options=no_header_body_checks,no_address_mappings
-o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject


Now, in amavis's configuration file amavisd.conf, you'd want a matching 
policy bank entry with listener (note the additional 10026 listening 
port in $inet_socket_port):

amavsid.conf:

# listen on multiple TCP ports
$inet_socket_port = [10024,10026];

$interface_policy{'10026'} = 'ORIGINATING';

# mail supposedly originating from our users
$policy_bank{'ORIGINATING'} = {
   # declare that mail was submitted by our smtp client
 originating = 1,
   # enables disclaimer insertion if available
   # allow_disclaimers = 1,
   # avoids loading MYNETS policy unnecessarily
 mynetworks_maps = [],
   # don't spam scan
 bypass_spam_checks_maps = [1],
   # allow sending any file names and types
 bypass_banned_checks_maps = [1],
   # don't check headers
 bypass_header_checks_maps = [1],
   # notify administrator of locally originating malware
 virus_admin_maps = [virusale...@$mydomain],
 spam_admin_maps  = [virusale...@$mydomain],
 warnbadhsender   = 1,
   # don't remove NOTIFY=SUCCESS option
 terminate_dsn_on_notify_success = 0,
   # don't query p0f
 os_fingerprint_method = undef,
};

With these settings, the mail submitted by your users will traverse one 
route while your general service takes the existing route.  The 
'originating' flag will be set, and amavis will consider mail from your 
local users as local mail.  Tailor to suit your needs.

See also:

http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/amavisd-new-docs.html#pbanks-ex

Mike

I never responded to this e-mail, but wanted to say thank you.
Everything that you said in this message worked perfectly and I am no
longer getting the error message in my log files.

Jeff


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[AMaViS-user] Configuration Question

2009-07-27 Thread Jeff Grossman
I am running Postfix 2.6.2 and Amavis 2.6.4 together. Everything is
running smoothly except for one problem. When a user connects remotely and
sends a message, I get the following line in my amavis-logwatch output:

1   *Warning: Security risk
-
1  Open relay? Nonlocal recips but not originating: recip1

I have asked about this on the Logwatcher mailing list, but I was told it
was an Amavis configuration problem.  What setting do I either have
incorrect or not have at all to remove this error from the amavis-logwatch
output?

Here is a copy of the maillog output for that particular mail transaction:

Jul 26 20:28:26 apple postfix/smtpd[1714]: connect from
97-93-130-39.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com[97.93.130.39]
Jul 26 20:28:26 apple postfix/smtpd[1714]: setting up TLS connection from
97-93-130-39.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com[97.93.130.39]
Jul 26 20:28:26 apple postfix/smtpd[1714]: Anonymous TLS connection
established
from 97-93-130-39.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com[97.93.130.39]: TLSv1 with
cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)
Jul 26 20:28:27 apple postfix/smtpd[1714]: 29BAD7B8BAF:
client=97-93-130-39.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com[97.93.130.39],
sasl_method=LOGIN, sasl_username=user1
Jul 26 20:28:27 apple postfix/cleanup[1716]: 29BAD7B8BAF:
message-id=99a382810315437caf6524a87fbda...@laptop
Jul 26 20:28:27 apple postfix/qmgr[3137]: 29BAD7B8BAF: from=user1,
size=2206, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jul 26 20:28:27 apple postfix/smtpd[1714]: disconnect from
97-93-130-39.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com[97.93.130.39]
Jul 26 20:28:31 apple postfix/smtpd[1745]: connect from
localhost[127.0.0.1]
Jul 26 20:28:31 apple postfix/smtpd[1745]: A6F547B8BB4:
client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
Jul 26 20:28:31 apple postfix/cleanup[1716]: A6F547B8BB4:
message-id=99a382810315437caf6524a87fbda...@laptop
Jul 26 20:28:31 apple postfix/qmgr[3137]: A6F547B8BB4: from=user1,
size=2649, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jul 26 20:28:31 apple postfix/smtpd[1745]: disconnect from
localhost[127.0.0.1]
Jul 26 20:28:31 apple amavis[24906]: (24906-19) Passed CLEAN,
[97.93.130.39] [97.93.130.39] user1 - recip1, Message-ID:
99a382810315437caf6524a87fbda...@laptop, mail_id: G3LEr078iFTC, Hits:
-4.898, size: 2206, queued_as: A6F547B8BB4, 4365 ms
Jul 26 20:28:31 apple postfix/smtp[1717]: 29BAD7B8BAF: to=recip1,
relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=4.6, delays=0.22/0.01/0/4.4,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok, id=24906-19, from
MTA([127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as A6F547B8BB4)
Jul 26 20:28:31 apple postfix/qmgr[3137]: 29BAD7B8BAF: removed
Jul 26 20:28:34 apple postfix/smtp[1746]: A6F547B8BB4: to=recip1,
relay=sbcmx4.prodigy.net[207.115.20.23]:25, delay=2.5,
delays=0.01/0.01/1.3/1.2, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 n6R3SWAF017611
Message accepted for delivery)


Thanks for any help you can offer me.

Jeff

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[AMaViS-user] Changes to local.cf

2009-04-26 Thread Jeff Grossman
If I make changes to SpamAssassin's local.cf file, do I need to restart 
Amavis or does Amavis load the local.cf file during each mail delivery?

Thanks,
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Re: [AMaViS-user] Changes to local.cf

2009-04-26 Thread Jeff Grossman
On 4/26/2009 8:05 AM, Bill Landry wrote:
 Jeff Grossman wrote:

 If I make changes to SpamAssassin's local.cf file, do I need to restart
 Amavis or does Amavis load the local.cf file during each mail delivery?
  
 You need to reload amavisd, as it only reads local.cf on startup.

 Bill


That is what I figured, but I wanted to double check.  Thanks for the info.

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Re: [AMaViS-user] X-Spam- headers on ham

2009-04-25 Thread Jeff Grossman
On 4/25/2009 2:14 PM, Frans de Boer wrote:
 Dear Reader,

 I try to get a X-Spam-Status line on all the e-mail I receive - as a
 test - but I only get this special header when SpamAssassin has reported
 that it was Spam. Is this a behaviour of SA or is there a switch in
 amavis-new (2.6.3) which I need to set?

 KR,
 Frans.

I use the following config option so the headers are added to each 
e-mail no matter what the spamassassin score is.

$sa_tag_level_deflt = undef;

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Re: [AMaViS-user] X-Spam- headers on ham-2

2009-04-25 Thread Jeff Grossman
On 4/25/2009 3:46 PM, Frans de Boer wrote:
 Sorry: it's a copy, I don't want to have a google account to reply
 directly on the list.
 ---
 Dear Reader,

 I try to get a X-Spam-Status line on all the e-mail I receive - as a
 test - but I only get this special header when SpamAssassin has
 reported
 that it was Spam. Is this a behaviour of SA or is there a switch in
 amavis-new (2.6.3) which I need to set?

 KR,
 Frans.

 =
 I use the following config option so
 the headers are added to each
 e-mail no matter what the
 spamassassin score is.


 $sa_tag_level_deflt   = undef;

 Jeff
 -
 Well, I tried before and now again,
 but that is not working. I have
 specified in local.cf several
 headers, with either spam, ham or
 all, but only when spam is found,
 will that work.


That setting goes in amavis.conf not in local.cf.  It is an Amavis 
setting not a Spamassassin setting.  Amavis does not allow Spamassassin 
to modify the headers or the message at all.  All modifications are done 
through Amavis.

Jeff

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Re: [AMaViS-user] Debian Package

2009-04-24 Thread Jeff Grossman
On 4/23/2009 9:48 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote:
 hi jeff


 I am running Amavisd-new 2.6.2 from the Debian testing system.  Not sure
 when they will get the new 2.6.3 version setup.  I noticed that Thomas
 Mueller has the newer 2.6.3 setup in a deb form on his website at
 http://chaschperli.ch/debian/lenny/.  I was wondering if anybody had a
 preference for which version to use?  Debian's or Thomas's.  Can I just
 install Thomas's version over the top of the Debian one, or do I need to
 uninstall the Debian one first?

  
 original intent of the amavisd-new in chaschperli.ch repo was to provide
 one patched with crm114. but this patch is now integrated upstream.

 for the 2.6.3 from chaschperli.ch i took the debian package forward-
 ported it to 2.6.3 (not much changed). version number is backports.org
 style. so if debian testing comes with the new version the official
 debian package will take over again.

 so you should be able to safely install my version and then go on with
 the official debian version - at least for me this is working on 3
 machines with lenny.

 - Thomas


Great.  Thanks for the information.  I will give it a go either later 
today or tomorrow.

Jeff

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Re: [AMaViS-user] Debian Package

2009-04-24 Thread Jeff Grossman
On 4/23/2009 10:13 PM, Alexander Wirt wrote:
 Jeff Grossman schrieb am Thursday, den 23. April 2009:


 I am running Amavisd-new 2.6.2 from the Debian testing system.  Not sure
 when they will get the new 2.6.3 version setup.  I noticed that Thomas
 Mueller has the newer 2.6.3 setup in a deb form on his website at
 http://chaschperli.ch/debian/lenny/.  I was wondering if anybody had a
 preference for which version to use?  Debian's or Thomas's.  Can I just
 install Thomas's version over the top of the Debian one, or do I need to
 uninstall the Debian one first?
  
 I plan an update to 2.6.3 today or tomorrow, so a little bit more patience
 would help :).

 Alex - debian maintainer of amavisd-new


Thanks for the update.  But patience is hard for me.  I will work on that.

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[AMaViS-user] Debian Package

2009-04-23 Thread Jeff Grossman
I am running Amavisd-new 2.6.2 from the Debian testing system.  Not sure
when they will get the new 2.6.3 version setup.  I noticed that Thomas
Mueller has the newer 2.6.3 setup in a deb form on his website at
http://chaschperli.ch/debian/lenny/.  I was wondering if anybody had a
preference for which version to use?  Debian's or Thomas's.  Can I just
install Thomas's version over the top of the Debian one, or do I need to
uninstall the Debian one first?

Thanks for any guidance you can give me.

Jeff


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Re: [AMaViS-user] Web Front-Ends

2009-04-16 Thread Jeff Grossman
troxlinux wrote:
 that version of amavisd-new you have in production and of MailZu?, I
 am having problems to mount that scenario...

 regardss

 2009/4/15 Jeff Grossman j...@stikman.com:
 I installed Postvis and Mailzu today to see how they work.  I was
 wondering if anybody had an opinion about either of these two programs
 or what they use for a web front-end to Amavis.

I have version 2.6.2 of Amavis and version 0.8RC3 of MailZu.

Jeff


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Re: [AMaViS-user] Spamassassin Scores

2009-04-16 Thread Jeff Grossman
Mark Martinec wrote:
 Jeff,

 I have just started using Amavis and have a question regarding an
 discrepancy between the Spamassassin header in a spam message and the
 Spamassassin report included in the spam notification.

 Here is the report in the spam notification:
 Content analysis details:   (22.0 points, 5.0 required)

 And, here is the report in the header of the quarantined message:

 X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=21.973 tag=- tag2=8 kill=10
   tests=[AV:Sanesecurity.Junk.8084.UNOFFICIAL=0, AV_SS=7.5, BAYES_99=7,
   FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.116, FORGED_OUTLOOK_HTML=0.001,
   FORGED_OUTLOOK_TAGS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457,
   MSOE_MID_WRONG_CASE=0.82, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=2.077] autolearn=spam

 How come the required value is only 5 in the spam notification while
 in the config files and the header it shows as 8?

 As Daniel Luttermann explained, the '5.0 required' in the notification
 comes from 'required_hits' in local.cf, the whole text section is
 produced by SpamAssassin and not edited by amavisd - just inserted as-is.

 The tag2 and kill levels are what really controls the amavisd behaviour,
 the 'required_hits' in local.cf is never used, only spam score value
 is taken from SA.

 The discrepancy is purely a cosmetic issue. The '5.0 required' in text
 should be ignored, it has no effect. If it bothers you, the best
 approach is to set 'required_hits' to the same value as tag2_level.

   Mark

Okay, that makes sense.  Thank you for the answer.

Jeff


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Re: [AMaViS-user] Spamassassin Scores

2009-04-15 Thread Jeff Grossman
Daniel Luttermann wrote:

 Jeff Grossman wrote on 15.04.2009:

 I have just started using Amavis and have a question regarding an
 discrepancy between the Spamassassin header in a spam message and the
 Spamassassin report included in the spam notification.

 Here is the report in the spam notification:

 Content analysis details:   (22.0 points, 5.0 required)

 Looks like the default spamassassin settings from local.cf.

 And, here is the report in the header of the quarantined message:

 X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=21.973 tag=- tag2=8 kill=10
  tests=[AV:Sanesecurity.Junk.8084.UNOFFICIAL=0, AV_SS=7.5,
 BAYES_99=7,
  FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.116, FORGED_OUTLOOK_HTML=0.001,
  FORGED_OUTLOOK_TAGS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,
 MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457,
  MSOE_MID_WRONG_CASE=0.82, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=2.077] autolearn=spam

 How come the required value is only 5 in the spam notification while
 in the config files and the header it shows as 8?

 Spamassassin uses a default score of 5.0 (local.cf). When you run
 spamassassin as user root or another user then the settings from
 local.cf are used because you run spamassassin directly.

 amavis runs as user amavis (or another dedicated user) and uses the
 settings from amavisd.conf when it calls spamassassin.

But, the line above which says 5.0 required is coming from the Amavis
spam notification e-mail.  I am not running Spamassassin as root. 
Spamassassin is only being run from Amavis, and Amavis is displaying too
different required values based on where I look.  In the header of the
e-mail it is showing correctly, but in the body of the Amavis spam
notification e-mail it is displaying incorrectly.


 The spam score itself are nearly the same (22.0 points) so it's OK.

 See also:
 http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/#faq-spam

Thanks for your help.

Jeff


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[AMaViS-user] Web Front-Ends

2009-04-15 Thread Jeff Grossman
I installed Postvis and Mailzu today to see how they work.  I was 
wondering if anybody had an opinion about either of these two programs 
or what they use for a web front-end to Amavis.

Thanks,
Jeff

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[AMaViS-user] Adding Header

2009-04-14 Thread Jeff Grossman
I have just started using Postfix along with Amavis and everything
appears to be running pretty well.  I do have one question, and I am
not sure if it relates to Amavis or to Postfix.  I was running
Sendmail with MIMEDefang.  I had my filter in MIMEDefang configured so
any e-mail that was received for user1 it would add an e-mail header
called X-Forward: Yes and I send the e-mail to user1 and user2.
User2 has a Sieve script configured that any e-mail with that header
would automatically save to a particular folder.

Now, with Postfix, I have it set using recipient_bcc to automatically
copy any e-mail from user1 to user2.  But, there is no longer that
header added and I don't know how to automatically filter those
messages into a particular folder.  Can I add an e-mail header with
Amavis so I can filter the message?  Or is there something I can do in
Postfix that will allow me to automatically copy the message and file
in a particular folder.

I am using Dovecot's Deliver as the LDA.

Thanks,
Jeff


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