Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion gone off topic
"I signed with the /nc because it matters so much to you real Hams to know that you are better. Oh God, I'm not worthy. hi hi" Its nice to know that some still know there place .. klc - Original Message - From: Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, October 14, 2006 0:37 am Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion gone off topic To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service > I see this topic come up so many times during the course of a year __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion gone off topic
I see this topic come up so many times during the course of a year so I guess that I should turn in my Extra-light license because I'm not as smart or as worthy as those who think they are better than others because they possess the "real" license earned back in the good-old days. I'm convinced that they are the same people who walked to school 20 miles each way uphill in the snow while carrying their little sister. I, on the other hand, had to ride a bus about 10 miles...a piece of cake and I didn't learn fortitude. (Plus my little sister sat beside me) I've decided to demand that the FCC require me to learn 50wpm code and have a doctorate in Electrical Engineering instead of just an A.A. in Electronic Technology from my Community College. Of course while I'm at it I will demand that they require ALL Advanced and old-time Extras to learn and prove proficiency on each and every mode of transmission including voice whether they have a desire to use those modes or not.. They will have to speak proper English and use proper punctuation in William Shakespeare style while using voice mode. No hillbilly talk like I hear now on the radio. No African-American, French, German, Italian, or other dialects or accents. They must also demonstrate AM, FM, SSB, LSB,USB, DSB, digital, RTTY, spread spectrum and on and on and on. Since they are so smart they will also have to build every piece of equipment that they use including RTTY printers, and make their own batteries with material mined by them too. After all if they buy a battery then they are lazy. Also, since communication had it's roots in early cultures they must show proficiency on smoke signals and beating logs with sticks. I'm 55 years old and have had to readjust my career to changing times. I worked for 3 companies in 28 years and now 10 companies in the last 4 years within the IT field. It is a different world with much younger people in charge. START ADJUSTING! There is plenty for everyone to enjoy in this hobby and I'm humbled by the learned ones who share their knowledge without desire of receiving platitudes but BORED by those fixated on the code issue especially. 73, Tom K3TVC/nc I signed with the /nc because it matters so much to you real Hams to know that you are better. Oh God, I'm not worthy. hi hi - Original Message - From: "Bob Maser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion Plus, if he had half a brain, he would have upgraded to an Extra back in the late 60's, early 70's. It's sour grapes. I agree that a pre no-code Extra is more valuable than post no code but he missed the boat. My feeling is that my 20WPM Extra will always be worth more(to me at least) than a no code Extra. I've always felt that no code extras should sign /nc when in the Extra part of the bands. Bob W6TR - Original Message - From: "Donald Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion Because with your 1968 Advanced you cannot go to the Extra Only Frequencies. Healthfully yours, Don W4BWS - Original Message - From: "Darrell, WA5VGO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion > On that subject, I can't >>understand why the Advanced hams don't go down and pass the Extra written >>exam, especially since the code requirements have been eliminated. >>My, >>it's so easy to get on radio these days. >> >>Bob W6TR Why would I want to downgrade from my 1968 advanced to the new extra? Darrell, WA5VGO __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
[AMRadio] members only
The group in Newington is soliciting "input" on a one-way basis ONLY from their paid subscribers. They do not intend to respond to them, either. The other 80 percent of us are free to step around them, as usual, to coordinate our modes and activities. The AM Community led the way with our voluntary congregation years ago, eventually leading the ARRL to acknowledge what we had established in their Considerate Operators Guide. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] 75 Meters Very Long
Mike: There are some aurora conditions at present. 73 DE K0NG __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] 75 Meters Very Long
hearing some w6's here in Sorycuse, ny - Original Message - From: "Mike Duke, K5XU" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, October 13, 2006 11:16 pm Subject: [AMRadio] 75 Meters Very Long To: Discussion of AM Radio > At 10 PM central time, Don, K4KYV was in a qso on 3878. I could > bearly hear > Don, and couldn't hear the other station at all here in Ms. > > It's very unusual when I lose Don due to band conditions. > > > > > Mike Duke, K5XU > American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs > > > __ > AMRadio mailing list > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
Yeah, but I've never met a Texan that would listen. - Original Message - From: "Darrell, WA5VGO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion Your a great guy, Bob. It's good to know I can go to you for ALL the answers. Darrell, WA5VGO At 07:35 PM 10/13/2006 -0400, you wrote: Plus, if he had half a brain, he would have upgraded to an Extra back in the late 60's, early 70's. It's sour grapes. I agree that a pre no-code Extra is more valuable than post no code but he missed the boat. My feeling is that my 20WPM Extra will always be worth more(to me at least) than a no code Extra. I've always felt that no code extras should sign /nc when in the Extra part of the bands. Bob W6TR - Original Message - From: "Donald Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion Because with your 1968 Advanced you cannot go to the Extra Only Frequencies. Healthfully yours, Don W4BWS - Original Message - From: "Darrell, WA5VGO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion > On that subject, I can't >>understand why the Advanced hams don't go down and pass the Extra written >>exam, especially since the code requirements have been eliminated. >>My, >>it's so easy to get on radio these days. >> >>Bob W6TR Why would I want to downgrade from my 1968 advanced to the new extra? Darrell, WA5VGO __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
[AMRadio] 75 Meters Very Long
At 10 PM central time, Don, K4KYV was in a qso on 3878. I could bearly hear Don, and couldn't hear the other station at all here in Ms. It's very unusual when I lose Don due to band conditions. Mike Duke, K5XU American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
How much longer are we going to drag this thread out? My in box is way overloaded! Sounds like the rachet jaws on 3890! 73. John, W4AWM Member AMI __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
Pete said: The other alternative could be, no input to any band plan; AM is phone; I'll operate phone wherever my license privileges allow and deal with my adjacent frequencies on a case by case basis. Pete, wa2cwa Wow! Now there is a statement we can both agree on ;>) Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
The other alternative could be, no input to any band plan; AM is phone; I'll operate phone wherever my license privileges allow and deal with my adjacent frequencies on a case by case basis. Putting a band plan with AM related info on an AM only web site, means nothing, if the rest of the amateur world knows nothing about it. Pete, wa2cwa On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:20:26 -0500 "Jim Wilhite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would suggest that another group develop a band plan, for example > there > has been discussion of using AM on some of the lower frequencies > that are to > become available. It could then be published on one or more of the > AM > sites. > > It would behoove the ARRL to really consider where they suggest > putting that > wide band digital stuff. In an emergency situation they could go > anywhere > they choose but otherwise they should not be given preference by a > band > plan. An attempt to carve up the band at this point would be > counter > productive > > 73 Jim > W5JO __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
How do you find time for ham radio? I figure a guy of your caliber would be too busy with more important things. Like solving world hunger or finding a cure for cancer. At 09:23 PM 10/13/2006 -0400, you wrote: Anytime sport - Original Message - From: "Darrell, WA5VGO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion Your a great guy, Bob. It's good to know I can go to you for ALL the answers. Darrell, WA5VGO At 07:35 PM 10/13/2006 -0400, you wrote: Plus, if he had half a brain, he would have upgraded to an Extra back in the late 60's, early 70's. It's sour grapes. I agree that a pre no-code Extra is more valuable than post no code but he missed the boat. My feeling is that my 20WPM Extra will always be worth more(to me at least) than a no code Extra. I've always felt that no code extras should sign /nc when in the Extra part of the bands. Bob W6TR - Original Message - From: "Donald Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion Because with your 1968 Advanced you cannot go to the Extra Only Frequencies. Healthfully yours, Don W4BWS - Original Message - From: "Darrell, WA5VGO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion > On that subject, I can't >>understand why the Advanced hams don't go down and pass the Extra written >>exam, especially since the code requirements have been eliminated. >>My, >>it's so easy to get on radio these days. >> >>Bob W6TR Why would I want to downgrade from my 1968 advanced to the new extra? Darrell, WA5VGO __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
Anytime sport - Original Message - From: "Darrell, WA5VGO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion Your a great guy, Bob. It's good to know I can go to you for ALL the answers. Darrell, WA5VGO At 07:35 PM 10/13/2006 -0400, you wrote: Plus, if he had half a brain, he would have upgraded to an Extra back in the late 60's, early 70's. It's sour grapes. I agree that a pre no-code Extra is more valuable than post no code but he missed the boat. My feeling is that my 20WPM Extra will always be worth more(to me at least) than a no code Extra. I've always felt that no code extras should sign /nc when in the Extra part of the bands. Bob W6TR - Original Message - From: "Donald Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion Because with your 1968 Advanced you cannot go to the Extra Only Frequencies. Healthfully yours, Don W4BWS - Original Message - From: "Darrell, WA5VGO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion > On that subject, I can't >>understand why the Advanced hams don't go down and pass the Extra written >>exam, especially since the code requirements have been eliminated. >>My, >>it's so easy to get on radio these days. >> >>Bob W6TR Why would I want to downgrade from my 1968 advanced to the new extra? Darrell, WA5VGO __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
I would suggest that another group develop a band plan, for example there has been discussion of using AM on some of the lower frequencies that are to become available. It could then be published on one or more of the AM sites. It would behoove the ARRL to really consider where they suggest putting that wide band digital stuff. In an emergency situation they could go anywhere they choose but otherwise they should not be given preference by a band plan. An attempt to carve up the band at this point would be counter productive 73 Jim W5JO Yeah, right Pete. Like they are going to listen to what the populice has to say, LOL. Chances are they WILL blindly reach into the hat a define a new band plan. But what difference does that make? > Mike(y) W3SLK __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
Your a great guy, Bob. It's good to know I can go to you for ALL the answers. Darrell, WA5VGO At 07:35 PM 10/13/2006 -0400, you wrote: Plus, if he had half a brain, he would have upgraded to an Extra back in the late 60's, early 70's. It's sour grapes. I agree that a pre no-code Extra is more valuable than post no code but he missed the boat. My feeling is that my 20WPM Extra will always be worth more(to me at least) than a no code Extra. I've always felt that no code extras should sign /nc when in the Extra part of the bands. Bob W6TR - Original Message - From: "Donald Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion Because with your 1968 Advanced you cannot go to the Extra Only Frequencies. Healthfully yours, Don W4BWS - Original Message - From: "Darrell, WA5VGO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion > On that subject, I can't >>understand why the Advanced hams don't go down and pass the Extra written >>exam, especially since the code requirements have been eliminated. My, >>it's so easy to get on radio these days. >> >>Bob W6TR Why would I want to downgrade from my 1968 advanced to the new extra? Darrell, WA5VGO __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
Old and dead news with the 7290 bulletin frequency. Max. 10 minutes a day at 9:45 PM EST. And 7290 is only designated as an AM Calling frequency. Maybe they should just remove it from their band plan. Fine your feelings about input. I'm sure no input is also "input" to them. Pete, wa2cwa On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:40:38 -0400 "Mike Sawyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > They don't even follow their OWN band plan. I submit their insistance at broadcasting, (yes just like KA1MAN!) their crap on SSB on 40M smack where they advise AM > operation. I remember a time when they asked for input, and this is back when I was a (be)League(d) member. I gave input along with alot of other members. What did they do? They did exactly the opposite of what the majority advised. > Once bitten, twice shy! > Mod-U-Lator, > Mike(y) > W3SLK __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] New Old Rig Heard
Mike: Did you log the time or call?? Just curious. 73 DE Charlie, K0NG __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
Yeah, I remember when Ten-Tec said that AM was archaic. The AM guys let them know how they felt, and now even Ten-Tec sells transceivers with AM capability.But, IMHO, the best AM is from tube gear. That is why I have a DX-60 and a Globe Scout 65. Joe W4AAB - Original Message - From: "Donald Chester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion > >>If AM is getting so popular, why aren't there any manufacturers producing > >>any equipment? > > Where have you been the past 20+ years? Nearly all HF transceivers made > to-day include true double-sideband full carrier AM mode, along with SSB, CW > and various digital capabilities. > > There aren't any major manufacturers producing HF rigs that are AM-only for > exactly the same reason they aren't producing SSB-only or CW only rigs. > (I'm not talking about little single-mode QRP kits.) > > Don k4kyv > > > __ > AMRadio mailing list > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
Pete said: ARR(gghh)L is looking for as much input as we can muster. Without it, they will blindly reach into the hat and define a new band plan. Pete, wa2cwa Yeah, right Pete. Like they are going to listen to what the populice has to say, LOL. Chances are they WILL blindly reach into the hat a define a new band plan. But what difference does that make? They don't even follow their OWN band plan. I submit their insistance at broadcasting, (yes just like KA1MAN!) their crap on SSB on 40M smack where they advise AM operation. I remember a time when they asked for input, and this is back when I was a (be)League(d) member. I gave input along with alot of other members. What did they do? They did exactly the opposite of what the majority advised. Once bitten, twice shy! Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
If I had to take a guess at least for 80 meters, since their bandwidth proposal is in limbo for some indeterminate time, is that their plan is going to revolve around phone, "wide" digital, CW, and "narrow" digital. CW and narrow digital stuff can reasonably coexist together. The "traditional" phone band plan has already been defined. Somewhere between existing phone and CW areas, the wide digital is going to be defined along with other stuff. Depending on who makes the best and loudest pitch, ESSB and AM will look for more defined areas, DX'ers will probably look for a bigger window, disaster and emergency management groups will look for more define frequencies with a surrounding "safe" area. Personally, I believe "windows" are counterproductive and literally lock you out from easily operating in the rest of the band, with people pointing fingers and raising a fuss, if you deviate from it I don't operate 40 and 15 meters enough to even venture a guess on a band plan but I bet it will also be a similar split of modes (phone, "wide" digital, "narrow" digital/CW). ARRL is looking for as much input as we can muster. Without it, they will blindly reach into the hat and define a new band plan. Pete, wa2cwa On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:19:03 -0500 "Jim Wilhite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Boy Pete, I hope they don't try to run things for us all this time. > I am > against any band plan at present until we see who and what operation > moves > there. If they do anything, they should concentrate getting the OOs > to > monitor for intentional interference. That is rampant and going to > get > worse this winter. __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
Hi Dave, I think you need to check your antenna ??? I hear lot's of AM activity on 75m (I have to admit I am not on 40m much) Saturday morning The Midwest Classic Radio Net on 3885 run by Rob WA9ZTY is on for 2-3 three hours at least. Sunday morning The DX-60 net goes on for a number of hours on 3880 run by Mike N8ECR Wednesday evenings on the First Wednesday of every month on 3880 The Collins Collectors Association runs their AM Night for 5-6 hours. On all the other Wednesdays Mike N8ECR runs the Mighty Elmac net that runs for three plus hours On every Tuesday evening the SAMRC run by Andy WA4KCY and Sam KF4TXQ run a swap net that I can even checkin to from Central Illinois goes on for a number of hours. Plus in the mornings 3885, 3880 and others are busy with AM QSO's until mid morning. Plunk dow a couple of bucks an but an issue of Electric Radio and not only see some great articles but also get a listing of all the AM nets, swaps and rag chews that go on across this great nation ON AM! There are a lot listed! And probably many more happening. 73 Larry WA9VRH Collins Collectors Association Archive Manager Collins Collectors Association AM Night Manager Just someone who loves operating AM no matter what rig! - Original Message - From: "david knepper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion > With all the email flying back and forth on band expansion, etc., it is no > wonder that AM activity on 75/40 meters is sadly lacking. > > Please no flames! Just wanted to make a point that we need to give our > fingers a rest and grab a mike. > > Dave, W3ST > Publisher of the Collins Journal > Secretary to the Collins Radio Association > www.collinsra.com - the CRA Website > Now with PayPal > CRA Nets: 3.805 Mhz every Monday at 8 PM EDST > and 14.253 Mhz every Saturday at 12 Noon EDST > Collins Chatroom - Daily at 4 PM EDST on 7.203 Mhz > - Original Message - > From: "Darrell, WA5VGO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" > > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 6:27 PM > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion > > > > > > > >> On that subject, I can't > >>>understand why the Advanced hams don't go down and pass the Extra written > >>>exam, especially since the code requirements have been eliminated. My, > >>>it's so easy to get on radio these days. > >>> > >>>Bob W6TR > > > > Why would I want to downgrade from my 1968 advanced to the new extra? > > > > Darrell, WA5VGO > > > > > > __ > > AMRadio mailing list > > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > > Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > > __ > AMRadio mailing list > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
This has already been rejected by the FCC along with the resurrection of a Novice type license class. Pete, wa2cwa On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:56:26 -0600 Jack Schmidling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why bother? It is my understanding that soon all Advanced operators > > will be automatically upgraded to Extra. > PHOTO OF THE WEEK: http://schmidling.com/pow.htm > Astronomy, Beer, Cheese, Fiber,Gems, Sausage,Silver > http://schmidling.com __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Thread change/License Class
Hay Brian your AM T Shirt went out today via priority mail... Is it ok to post them here as I still have some left HI !!! Bob W1PE On Oct 13, 2006, at 1:18 PM, A.R.S. - W5AMI wrote: On 10/13/06, Todd, KA1KAQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/13/06, Bob Maser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On that subject, I can't > understand why the Advanced hams don't go down and pass the Extra written > exam, especially since the code requirements have been eliminated. Perhaps because some who hold lesser licenses are proud of the fact that they got their Advanced license when the Advanced test was more difficult than even the Extra was. Or perhaps they'd like to pass the 20WPM before getting the give-away Extra of today, but lack the time. Could be any number of things. Or maybe they don't want to be associated with some perceived arrogance of having an Extra ticket? Amen Todd. I'm an Advanced and I feel no less than any of the 5 wpm Extras of today for damned sure. Besides, I can't remember the last time I even operated in the Advanced sub-band on any band or mode. I'll probably upgrade one day, however my work is enough for me right now, trying to keep up with everything I need to do with it. Hpe to see you on 75 soon Todd! 73 Brian __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
Plus, if he had half a brain, he would have upgraded to an Extra back in the late 60's, early 70's. It's sour grapes. I agree that a pre no-code Extra is more valuable than post no code but he missed the boat. My feeling is that my 20WPM Extra will always be worth more(to me at least) than a no code Extra. I've always felt that no code extras should sign /nc when in the Extra part of the bands. Bob W6TR - Original Message - From: "Donald Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion Because with your 1968 Advanced you cannot go to the Extra Only Frequencies. Healthfully yours, Don W4BWS - Original Message - From: "Darrell, WA5VGO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion > On that subject, I can't >>understand why the Advanced hams don't go down and pass the Extra written >>exam, especially since the code requirements have been eliminated. My, >>it's so easy to get on radio these days. >> >>Bob W6TR Why would I want to downgrade from my 1968 advanced to the new extra? Darrell, WA5VGO __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
[AMRadio] New Old Rig Heard
In my earlier post, I mentioned a station on 3885 that was using a 2e26 rig despite all of the qrm. After 37 years as an active ham, plus over 3 years as a mostly ham band swl prior to that, I get excited whenever I hear an older rig on the air that I have not heard of before. Last night was one of those rare occurrences. The 2e26 rig I heard was a Subraco transmitter. The only internet references I've found are to a higher power 80 - 10 meter transmitter, and to a 30 watt 10/11 meter mobile rig. Of course, that was 30 watts input. I didn't get the model number of the one I heard, but the audio sounded good, especially for 10 watts of carrier on a crowded frequency. Mike Duke, K5XU American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
That is a question that does not deserve an answer. - Original Message - From: "Darrell, WA5VGO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion On that subject, I can't understand why the Advanced hams don't go down and pass the Extra written exam, especially since the code requirements have been eliminated. My, it's so easy to get on radio these days. Bob W6TR Why would I want to downgrade from my 1968 advanced to the new extra? Darrell, WA5VGO __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
With all the email flying back and forth on band expansion, etc., it is no wonder that AM activity on 75/40 meters is sadly lacking. Please no flames! Just wanted to make a point that we need to give our fingers a rest and grab a mike. Dave, W3ST Publisher of the Collins Journal Secretary to the Collins Radio Association www.collinsra.com - the CRA Website Now with PayPal CRA Nets: 3.805 Mhz every Monday at 8 PM EDST and 14.253 Mhz every Saturday at 12 Noon EDST Collins Chatroom - Daily at 4 PM EDST on 7.203 Mhz - Original Message - From: "Darrell, WA5VGO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion On that subject, I can't understand why the Advanced hams don't go down and pass the Extra written exam, especially since the code requirements have been eliminated. My, it's so easy to get on radio these days. Bob W6TR Why would I want to downgrade from my 1968 advanced to the new extra? Darrell, WA5VGO __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
[AMRadio] Why and Where I Operate AM
Why we operate a given mode can be a never-ending discussion. For me, the very basic reason that I operate AM is because it is simply fun. This applies to both the mode and most of the personalities who operate it, regardless of band or frequency. As for where, I operate pretty much anywhere I can find activity on a frequency that is clear enough for my meager rice box signal to be heard. It should be a given that amateurs who operate AM must have clear input into any band plan which proposes to suggest or dictate where such operation generally occurs. To get a grasp on the numbers of AM operators, and an understanding of why the 75 meter "AM window" must be expanded into at least a doorway, all one needs to do is listen to 3885 early on Tuesday or Thursday evenings. Last night, for instance, I could hear 3 different groups operating at once on 3885 at approximately 6:30 PM central time. Despite all that crowded noise, I was able to clearly hear a station in northwest Florida who was using a 2e26 rig barefoot. Of course, he would have sounded much better on a clear frequency. More about that unusual transmitter in a separate post. Mike Duke, K5XU American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
Because with your 1968 Advanced you cannot go to the Extra Only Frequencies. Healthfully yours, Don W4BWS - Original Message - From: "Darrell, WA5VGO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion > > > > On that subject, I can't > >>understand why the Advanced hams don't go down and pass the Extra written > >>exam, especially since the code requirements have been eliminated. My, > >>it's so easy to get on radio these days. > >> > >>Bob W6TR > > Why would I want to downgrade from my 1968 advanced to the new extra? > > Darrell, WA5VGO > > > __ > AMRadio mailing list > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
On that subject, I can't understand why the Advanced hams don't go down and pass the Extra written exam, especially since the code requirements have been eliminated. My, it's so easy to get on radio these days. Bob W6TR Why would I want to downgrade from my 1968 advanced to the new extra? Darrell, WA5VGO __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
Boy Pete, I hope they don't try to run things for us all this time. I am against any band plan at present until we see who and what operation moves there. If they do anything, they should concentrate getting the OOs to monitor for intentional interference. That is rampant and going to get worse this winter. - Original Message - From: "Peter Markavage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion Looks like the ARRL is looking for guidance on a revised band plan. E-mail comments to them by October 31. For more info see: http://www.remote.arrl.org/?artid=6864 Now's a good time to get your input in on band restructuring for 80, 40, and 15 meters. Pete, wa2cwa __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
Bob Maser wrote: On that subject, I can't understand why the Advanced hams don't go down and pass the Extra written exam, especially since the code requirements have been eliminated Why bother? It is my understanding that soon all Advanced operators will be automatically upgraded to Extra. The real question is what is the point of Extra Class? Why not just downgrade us to Advanced? The whole program is totally stupid these days. As with all hobbies, this one thrives on magazines, advertising, equipment sales and job programs for promoters. The best interests of the hobbiest are not a very high priority. js -- PHOTO OF THE WEEK: http://schmidling.com/pow.htm Astronomy, Beer, Cheese, Fiber,Gems, Sausage,Silver http://schmidling.com __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
. On that subject, I can't understand why the Advanced hams don't go down and pass the Extra written exam, especially since the code requirements have been eliminated. My, it's so easy to get on radio these days. Bob W6TR Bob, I think the General portion is the primary location because there are some very adept and nice General operators who, for one reason or another, just haven't upgraded. Therefore, most calling frequencies or "Windows" are in the General portion as are most nets. When someone starts a net or other group, they want maximum participation, and if it is in the Advanced or Extra portion of the bands, you limit the number of participants.. When I make a contact, I tend to freeze on frequency and not check to see if the other guy can move, which is silly of me. Maybe now with the exansion, we will all take a second look at out operating practices. 73 Jim W5JO. __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] My visit to FlexRadio - SDR-1000 Transceiver
On 10/13/06, Jim Candela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Group, Just a few weeks ago I knew nothing about the SDR-1000, and now I have had my interest peaked. Yeah, that's just too...modern for me. (o: I have to say, though - they sound GREAT. Dave, W9AD in Chicago uses his frequently and the audio is outstanding. Someone else I talked with recently was running one also - maybe it was you, Brian? And it's US-made too, hm? Like the Class E stuff, it's yet another example of how the mode of AM is anything but useless, outdated, or any of the other slurs uttered by those jealous of natural audio. Keep us posted as to your situation, Jim. Christmas is still a couple months off, giving you time to make amens for any lapses in judgement over the past year, thereby avoiding the proverbial lump of coal (broken yaecomwood 2mtr CB) in your stocking. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
[AMRadio] My visit to FlexRadio - SDR-1000 Transceiver
Hi Group, Just a few weeks ago I knew nothing about the SDR-1000, and now I have had my interest peaked. Brian, W5AMI has been linking MP3 recordings taken from his FlexRadio, and some of those AM clips have absolutely astonishing audio. I went to their website, and I discovered that this company is a 10 minute drive from my QTH, and one of the key employees is Ed Popp, K5BOT. Ed is an old friend, and I used to work with him years ago. So today I went over there, and had the grand tour. They are in the midst of a 250 unit run. Everything is organized really nice, and this technology sure seems neat. The sound card on a computer is a critical part of the receiver, and it is the IF amplifier centered at 11 Khz. I asked about image problems, and Ed says the software nulls out the image, so therefore a low frequency IF is not a problem. I was very impressed after my tour, and 'eyeball' with Ed. Maybe Santa will get me one of those 250... http://www.flex-radio.com/ Regards, Jim __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
Looks like the ARRL is looking for guidance on a revised band plan. E-mail comments to them by October 31. For more info see: http://www.remote.arrl.org/?artid=6864 Now's a good time to get your input in on band restructuring for 80, 40, and 15 meters. Pete, wa2cwa __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Dial Glass
BINGO! Thanks Todd. Rick Todd, KA1KAQ wrote: Close! Dee C. Almquist email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would be nice to get ol' Dee back into the fold. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Dial Glass
Thanks Todd! Yeah, wish he'd come back on with us... On 10/13/06, Todd, KA1KAQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/13/06, A.R.S. - W5AMI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He used to be a member of this list until someone that also used to be > a member of this list ticked him off. > > I think his last name is something like 'Almquest' or something along that line. Close! Dee C. Almquist email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would be nice to get ol' Dee back into the fold. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net -- "There is nothing more uncommon than common sense." -- Frank Lloyd Wright __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Dial Glass
On 10/13/06, A.R.S. - W5AMI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: He used to be a member of this list until someone that also used to be a member of this list ticked him off. I think his last name is something like 'Almquest' or something along that line. Close! Dee C. Almquist email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would be nice to get ol' Dee back into the fold. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Dial Glass
Thanks Brian, that name sounds right. Maybe I can Google him. 73, Rick He used to be a member of this list until someone that also used to be a member of this list ticked him off. I think his last name is something like 'Almquest' or something along that line. 73 Brian w5ami __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Dial Glass
On 10/13/06, Rick Brashear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is a guy named Dee Alm??? who refinishes Ranger cabs and panels and others, does anyone know his email address or where I might find him? Or does anyone know where I can get just the dial glass for a Ranger? Rick, He used to be a member of this list until someone that also used to be a member of this list ticked him off. I think his last name is something like 'Almquest' or something along that line. 73 Brian w5ami __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
[AMRadio] Dial Glass
There is a guy named Dee Alm??? who refinishes Ranger cabs and panels and others, does anyone know his email address or where I might find him? Or does anyone know where I can get just the dial glass for a Ranger? Thanks... Rick/K5IZ __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
Well expressed, my good friend! 73 Brian - w5ami On 10/13/06, KA5MIR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thursday 12 October 2006, Bob Maser wrote: > once you work the 30 or 40 stations that seem to hang out on 3885, > you're done. and >Considering the fact that you are outnumbered by 500 to 1 at any given time, >I would think it wise to stay up at the top of each band and > I would go up against the best with my SSB signal Why would anyone who thinks this way subscribe to the AMRadio reflector? I guess to tell everyone about... >my 20V2 and 20V3 and > my FT1000 Mark V and > I have a pristine Valiant and HRO-60 I doubt that anyone is impressed. Perhaps there is a CQContest-59-59 list that would be more interesting than us old AMer's. Kent/KA5MIR ...someone who actually -LIKES- AM Radio AND talks to the same people more than once... __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net -- "There is nothing more uncommon than common sense." -- Frank Lloyd Wright __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Thread change/License Class
On 10/13/06, Todd, KA1KAQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/13/06, Bob Maser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On that subject, I can't > understand why the Advanced hams don't go down and pass the Extra written > exam, especially since the code requirements have been eliminated. Perhaps because some who hold lesser licenses are proud of the fact that they got their Advanced license when the Advanced test was more difficult than even the Extra was. Or perhaps they'd like to pass the 20WPM before getting the give-away Extra of today, but lack the time. Could be any number of things. Or maybe they don't want to be associated with some perceived arrogance of having an Extra ticket? Amen Todd. I'm an Advanced and I feel no less than any of the 5 wpm Extras of today for damned sure. Besides, I can't remember the last time I even operated in the Advanced sub-band on any band or mode. I'll probably upgrade one day, however my work is enough for me right now, trying to keep up with everything I need to do with it. Hpe to see you on 75 soon Todd! 73 Brian __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
On Thursday 12 October 2006, Bob Maser wrote: > once you work the 30 or 40 stations that seem to hang out on 3885, > you're done. and >Considering the fact that you are outnumbered by 500 to 1 at any given time, >I would think it wise to stay up at the top of each band and > I would go up against the best with my SSB signal Why would anyone who thinks this way subscribe to the AMRadio reflector? I guess to tell everyone about... >my 20V2 and 20V3 and > my FT1000 Mark V and > I have a pristine Valiant and HRO-60 I doubt that anyone is impressed. Perhaps there is a CQContest-59-59 list that would be more interesting than us old AMer's. Kent/KA5MIR ...someone who actually -LIKES- AM Radio AND talks to the same people more than once... __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Thread change/License Class
On 10/13/06, Bob Maser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now with the expansion of usable frequencies on 75/80, us Extras can go down and play radio where the other lesser licensed can't go. Hmmm.more of the same 'back of the bus' mentality along the lines of why AMers better not move out of that teeny sliver of 75 meters? On that subject, I can't understand why the Advanced hams don't go down and pass the Extra written exam, especially since the code requirements have been eliminated. Perhaps because some who hold lesser licenses are proud of the fact that they got their Advanced license when the Advanced test was more difficult than even the Extra was. Or perhaps they'd like to pass the 20WPM before getting the give-away Extra of today, but lack the time. Could be any number of things. Or maybe they don't want to be associated with some perceived arrogance of having an Extra ticket? My, it's so easy to get on radio these days. A bit like the ease with which someone can be issued a vanity call or even use an out-of-area call that doesn't apply to the call area they're actually in? After all, the call areas serve no real purpose beyond the number of possible license combinations. Why did anyone ever think we needed call areas? We could all just be zeros, but I'm sure there'd be a big argument over who gets to use 'W0OD'. Warm those rigs up tonight. WA3VJB predicts quiet(er) conditions from the passing of a cold front, resulting in some good AM conditions on 75. Anything has to be better than endless static crashes. ~ Todd KA1KAQ __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
[AMRadio] Reasons for operating AM
I operate AM because of the varied technologies that are involved in the design and construction of the stuff. I enjoy discussions about these technologies with others. After 35 years I still find many things to learn about. Tubes are extremely complicated devices with parameters that extend far beyond what most in the amateur circle are aware of. This is one of the things that I enjoy about design and building with tubes. But I really enjoy designing solid state equipment because it is easier to bread board or connect up with alligator clips. I think every piece of commercially purchased equipment in the shack that BJ and I operate has been extremely modified some of which is not recognizable as to what it once was. Incorporating some of the modern SS devices into some of the old tube store bought equipments makes a lot of sense to BJ and me. For instance if the distortion factor of a modulator can be brought down form 10% to 5% by incorporating solid state devices with better bias regulation or screen regulation and at the same time reduce heat due to excess bleeder current then you can be sure that the modifications will be made. Sure we can and do find modifications that we do to our SSB equipment even some of the newest stuff. And now days there are a whole lot of people running SSB equipment that you can find with common interest in these modifications and design work. None the less it seems to me that there are a greater number of these high tech designers and modifiers that are operating AM with their full home brewed stations. I find that talking to these guys is my most enjoyable time. It seems to me that the full length transmission of 5 to 10 minutes allows me to make a better description of the design technique that we may be discussing. Not that I could not do it on SSB, but I have found most of the SSB only operators are not in to listening for that long. Short attention span I guess. John, WA5BXO __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
After reading this reply to AM thread, I was wondring where you have been the last 20+ years??? The "modern" HF trranscievers do have a LOW LEVEL form of am transmission. Unfortunately it is no comparison to the "old Plate Modulated Boat anchors" . It's like some one who restores old cars. They don't make those either but they are still pretty popular don't you agree?? No one says they can't drive on the street. They are a relic of the past technology. As far as having a special "window of operation" for this mode of transmission, I think that this is not necessary. Just having things the way they are now with an agreement among the amateur community is much better than having the FCC getting more involved with amateur radio than they already are. We should be careful what we ask for. We just might get it Can't we all just get along! lol Joe KK4TR - Original Message - From: "Donald Chester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion > >>If AM is getting so popular, why aren't there any manufacturers producing > >>any equipment? > > Where have you been the past 20+ years? Nearly all HF transceivers made > to-day include true double-sideband full carrier AM mode, along with SSB, CW > and various digital capabilities. > > There aren't any major manufacturers producing HF rigs that are AM-only for > exactly the same reason they aren't producing SSB-only or CW only rigs. > (I'm not talking about little single-mode QRP kits.) > > Don k4kyv > > > __ > AMRadio mailing list > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
I guess I should have specified plate modulated AM transmitters. You are right, my FT1000 Mark V does have the ability to go on AM but it also goes on FM, RTTY and PKT. I wonder how many people use these modern day transceivers on these modes. Let's stop this thread. Now with the expansion of usable frequencies on 75/80, us Extras can go down and play radio where the other lesser licensed can't go. On that subject, I can't understand why the Advanced hams don't go down and pass the Extra written exam, especially since the code requirements have been eliminated. My, it's so easy to get on radio these days. Bob W6TR - Original Message - From: "Donald Chester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion If AM is getting so popular, why aren't there any manufacturers producing any equipment? Where have you been the past 20+ years? Nearly all HF transceivers made to-day include true double-sideband full carrier AM mode, along with SSB, CW and various digital capabilities. There aren't any major manufacturers producing HF rigs that are AM-only for exactly the same reason they aren't producing SSB-only or CW only rigs. (I'm not talking about little single-mode QRP kits.) Don k4kyv __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
If AM is getting so popular, why aren't there any manufacturers producing any equipment? Where have you been the past 20+ years? Nearly all HF transceivers made to-day include true double-sideband full carrier AM mode, along with SSB, CW and various digital capabilities. There aren't any major manufacturers producing HF rigs that are AM-only for exactly the same reason they aren't producing SSB-only or CW only rigs. (I'm not talking about little single-mode QRP kits.) Don k4kyv __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
[AMRadio] AM and SSB windows and harmful interference liability
The debate over which is better SSB of AM is getting old. My feeling everyone has the right to use AM or SSB, (what ever one likes) The AM Window should not be interfered by SSB or other modes, and the SSB Window should not be interfered by AM, CW, Digital or other. The comments of AM is not "efficient or a practical mode of operation etc" is hog wash. Antique cars like 55 Chevy's, old Mustangs, and antiques in your home are also "OLD WASTEFUL COLLECTORS DUST". Who would have ever thought that collecting "old junk would ever be in vogue. AM is as important to many as collecting old cars are. Operators who don't approve of AM and are causing HARMFUL INTERFERENCE are setting themselves up to possible Civil and Criminal exposure, (yes the law suit word). If an operator blocks or hinders a emergency communication on AM and CONTRIBUTES IN ANY WAY to the harm, or causes delay in getting help to one in need, LEGAL ACTION COULD HAPPEN. I have heard from several lawyers AND OPERATORS, they would love to sue the pants off those operators, and prosecute them. Those "lawyers" good or bad, have a game plan, and are waiting to drop the hammer on those persons instigating the HARMFUL INTERFERENCE, and also I am sure SOME INNOCENT operators just joining in unaware of the emergency communication, will be implicated in the suit as co-defendants. Some will argue "they should have used SSB"; TELL THAT TO SOME SUE HAPPY LAWYER AND PLAINTIFF WANTING TO GET REVENGE OR MONEY. HAMS HAVE NO LIABILITY INSURANCE AGAINST THIS ACTION. WIN, LOOSE OR DRAW IT COMES OUT OF THERE POCKETS. I am sure this is something Jammers and others causing HARMFUL INTERFERENCE HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT. I know every SSBer talking on the AM window is being recorded 24/7. There signal is a finger print, and is easy to prove in a court of law EVEN IF THEY DON'T USE THERE CALL OR ALTER THERE VOICE. If they don't ID the court will probably award even higher punitive damages and the operator could lose everything (there house, retirement etc) Some may think this scenario is imposable, JUST THINK, "NO ONE COULD EVER SUE OVER SPILLING HOT COFFEE IN THERE LAP FROM MCDONALD'S" (only one ridicules example but true) Let's not start a new line of lawsuits; please let the operators causing harmful interference and the (INNOCENT OPERATORS) know there are persons out there who just want to sue someone, and make easy money. Please pass this along. Brad KB7FQR __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
[AMRadio] Xfmr
Does anyone happen to have a spare 600 ohm primary to 4 - 6 ohm secondary audio transformer for use with the R-390/URR? Please, contact me off list if you have one for sale. Thanks, Rick/K5IZ __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Phone band expansion
On 10/12/06, Bob Maser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yeah, but I found that talking about how great AM is gets old after a while. If that's what you restrict the conversation to, sure - even I'd get bored, and I'm easily amused. Folks I talk with discuss the rigs they are running, restoring, or building,along with effective antennae, other projects, history, life, etc etc. Listening in to the intercom-type exchanges on SSB causes me to doze if I don't change the dial. Seldom any radio content beyond the latest linear amp, and really not unlike the memories I have of CB where folks used it merely for convenience, not enjoyment. I don't know about you, but I got interested in radio forradio? Now that SSB is the mode of choice for most hams, one gets used to VOX operation and the lock and talk becomes tedious at best. 'Most' in the circles you prefer, Bob. To deny the explosion of popularity in AM in recent years means you're either not paying attention or choose to believe otherwise. I find that when I get on AM(I still have a pristine Valiant and HRO-60), a group gets together and by the time that it gets back around, 20-30 minutes have expired. I was used to this modus operandi back in the 50's but now I prefer a back and forth format. Why not start another conversation on a *different* frequency? This is what I refer to with the tendency by some to 'clump' onto one frequency. With all the AM activity and phone spectrum available, there is no excuse to have those massive roundtables, muchless to stay in one if it bores or otherwise annoys you. Take the lead, don't wait to be led. If AM is getting so popular, why aren't there any manufacturers producing any equipment? Uh.maybe you missed this Bob, but AM was being left off SSB/CW rigs some years ago including the much-vaunted Collins S-Line, KWM-2, even the first 'super rig' that all the big Yaecomwood riceboxes are modeled after: the KWM-380 (although it at least provided receive capabilities). As AM stabilized and began again to grow years ago, manufacturers began including the mode on their equipment again. They obviously didn't do this because it was cheaper, or unfavorable. BTW, after spending over 100 hrs converting the 20V-3 to 75M, I had big time interference to the neighbors. Yes, wellit's not unlike moving to a gated neighborhood or densely populated development and trying to build an airstrip. Chances are good to excellent that someone will notice and object. The better choice would be to live in an area where neighbors aren't close enough to be a problem, and real radio can be enjoyed. Maybe not as convenient as living in the city or even outskirts, but necessary if you want to run big radios and have something beyond the G5RV or small tribander in the air. It's certainly not for everyone. I have no problems with the Valiant and none with my modern SSB rigs. You probably still cause interference, especially when you run that big SSB signal you eluded to previously. SSB is just a lot harder to identify and trace than the natural human voice. If nothing else Bob, you've at least made it clear why you think those AMers better stay in a little sliver of the bands and tolerate intentional interference from SSB stations. I'm just thankful that everyone else who has responded to this thread sees AM as a standard phone mode entitled to the same treatment as SSB. Seems to go against that 'minority' view you hold of AM. Okay, so it's an AM reflector... 73, and thanks for the banter - hope to work you on AM once I get down there. I'll expect a strapping signal from you, too. (o: ~ Todd KA1KAQ __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
