Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-18 Thread D. Chester



Sniff (boo-hoo)...  I never had an Elmer.
Did it all on my own.   Now I'm the Elmer.  More lids today, I find.

Ed, VA3ES


I pretty well did it on my own, too.  Did have an older friend give me my 
Novice test, and I used to call him on the phone for advice.  When I got my 
first xmtr on the air and couldn't get to load, he came out and helped me 
troubleshoot it.


I just wish that dumb-sounding term elmer would go away for good.  What's 
wrong with mentor?


Don k4kyv

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RE: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-18 Thread Ed Sieb
Don,

I had more mentors once I got on the air, than I ever did before I got my
ticket.
Timtron, and many others have been far more helpful to my building of
knowledge
than any Elmers, mentors or what have you.

Ed,  VA3ES


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Don k4kyv wrote:
I pretty well did it on my own, too.  Did have an older friend give me my
Novice test, and I used to call him on the phone for advice.  When I got my
first xmtr on the air and couldn't get to load, he came out and helped me
troubleshoot it.

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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-18 Thread ROLYNN PRECHTL K7DFW

 I just wish that dumb-sounding term elmer would go away for good.
=


The term is part of our history. Why Kalifornicate our heritage?


K7DFW

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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-18 Thread KB2WIG

'  Kalifornicate'   


 Thats a new one to use .. klc

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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-18 Thread kenw2dtc


'  Kalifornicate'  Thats a new one to use .. klc


It started out as Californicate.  



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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-18 Thread Barrie Smith

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  '  Kalifornicate'
 
 
   Thats a new one to use .. klc
 

 Was new to me, too.  I checked Google for the term...

 Results *1* - *10* of about *983* for *Kalifornicate*. (*0.15* seconds)

 Apparently, it's -out there-

Yes, since the early 1950s, at least.  I thought it had gone away.  Too bad
it didn't.

73, Barrie, W7ALW


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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-15 Thread Geoff/W5OMR

Peter Markavage wrote:

Back in the good old days real hams didn't need Elmers.
  


The 'good ol' days'? 


~~~
*What AM Is To Me*

by John E. Coleman, WA5BXO

*O*perating AM is not about communicating using the most efficient mode 
of transmission or the latest technology. It is about technical 
understanding of what is really happening in one's transmitter. Not just 
the standard old definitions but down in the nitty-gritty. It is about 
understanding the technology of old and new. It's about understanding 
why one circuit is better suited for a job than another even though both 
have the same definition. It is about home-brew equipment and 
modifications. It is about fellowship and a gentleman's mannerisms. It 
is about fun in learning. It's a little new stuff mixed with some 
nostalgia and used in a mode that is pleasurable to the operator and the 
listener.


Sounds a lot like Ham Radio in general.

Don't misunderstand me, there is a lot more to Ham Radio than operating 
AM. There are so many aspects of Ham Radio that I'm sure I could not do 
the list justice. For this I am glad. Ham Radio has always been the 
seeds of electronic and communication technology. And I hope it 
continues to be.


Somewhere deep in my brain are the memories of the days of learning and 
wonderment. I can not forget the first time I saw the bottom of the 
Sears 1950 TV as the repairman went in with his meter and hand tools to 
repair the set so that I could watch Roy Rogers and Dale Evans on the 
next Saturday Morning. All the tubes glowing and how did it get in there 
(the picture and the sound) I asked myself and many others. Then later 
while in high school and having upgraded to general class, I was 
privileged to not only see some of the greatest radio transmitters to 
have ever been home brewed, but I was known by the men that built them 
on a first name basis. Walking in to the shack of K5SWK in the evening 
to see the 833s and 866s glowing and to hear the feedback from the 
modulation transformer and slight hum of the pole pegs is a memory that 
will always make me stop what I doing and ponder the nostalgia. Do I 
operate AM because I can't let go of a childhood memory? You bet I do. 
And I hope to stir some of those memories in others if possible and to 
plant some seeds of my own.


Many Thanks and 73 to those Elmers

Wayne, W5FJS
Otis, K5SWK
Tom, K5IBW
Koby, K5MZH
Jake, K5IQV
Bill, WA5DWXGene, WA5ATH
Gene, W5HQJ
Roy, W5MRY
Steve, K5LTK
Ronnie, K5MKB
Don, K4KYV

This is just to name a few and I know that a lot are silent keys and 
some have changed their calls. But I will always remember them with the 
calls heard first.

~


Pete, John either just made, or is going to make 60 years old, this 
year.  He got his novice as a freshman or sophomore in high school.  
We're talking some 40 years ago.  How far back does one have to go to be 
in the 'old days'?



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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-15 Thread SBJohnston

When I was a kid, the local library was my elmer - I was sure glad they had 
books on ham radio for me to borrow - over and over and over!

Steve WD8DAS




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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-15 Thread EP Swynar
Good Day All,

My Elmer neither stood on two legs, nor took a single breath of life in the
conventional sense --- and yet, he was as much alive and inspiring as any
conventional Elmer...to me at any rate...

Elmer here was my very first SW receiver: a beat-up, 3rd hand, $40.00
Hallicrafters S-77A, that I found through the want ads in one of my Dad's
union newsletters.

Looking back, it was surely a good thing that this receiver had the many
shortcomings that it did, for these very deficiencies taught me all about
improving the performance of things electronic, and made me appreciate the
fine art of homebrewing --- or, perhaps more accurately, it put a face to
that most noble of Amateur activities, i.e. ...tinkering and
experimenting...

To whit:

-Being an AC/DC receiver, its shocking (literally!) performance made me
appreciate the outboard installation of an AC isolation transformer;

-Its poor sensitivity on the higher bands forced me to build a regenerative
pre-selector;

-Its poor selectivity taught me about crystal lattice filters, and
Q-multipliers (I installed a Heath QF-1), and passive audio filters (I built
one using 88-mh. telephone toroids);

-Its poor dial calibration inspired me to build a crystal calibrator, using
one of those $4.50 100-KHz crystals that Jan Crystals used to sell back in
the day;

-Its poor stability on 20-, 15-, and 10-meters compelled me to build a
crystal controlled down converter, and,

On  on it went!

In fact, the VERY FIRST working Ham station I ever saw was my own --- and
with the singular exception of that receiver, the station was entirely
homebrewed...

It held sway at VE3CUI for some 12 years --- the transmitters may have come
 gone in that time, but the old receiver remained in its well-earned
central spot atop the operating position. In fact, it was not retired until
1983, when a brand new Yaesu FT-980 occupied its spot...but I still have the
ol' lad, and fire it up from time to time, always amazed to re-discover the
incredible quality of the audio emanating from it, and re-living the fuzzy
warm memories that only come back to you when you greet a long-lost, old
friend...

~73!~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ

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RE: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-15 Thread Ed Sieb
Taking  a cue from Eddy, I will regale you all with my various Elmers such
as they were.

My first Elmer much like Eddy's, was  a receiver. Ah, but what a receive
it was too! ;-)

I was 14 years old, and barely knew enough theory even to be dangerous.  My
mom had a nice Motorola All-American-5 in the kitchen which we listened to
the local news every day.  CJAD 800, Montreal. A 50 KW blowtorch.

One day, Mom complained that reception was not what it used to be.  So I
took it upon myself to  correct what I perceived to be a problem with the
radio.

I took it into my bedroom, and examined the speaker. Looked OK.  Hmmm?
Now what else could I do?  So, I decided that the antenna, a mere coil on
the back of the radio, was insufficient to do the job!  What we needed was a
bigger antenna!  Longer, in fact!  Good idea, I thought, and went about
scrounging  some wire.

I found a roll of  JKT-Quad telephone cable.  The typical inside-wiring
4-conductor stuff, red-yellow-black-green standard telephone wire.  Must
have been at least 80' feet of it.

So, I  carefully snipped off the existing flat coiled loop, and replaced it
with the run of telephone wire, and ran it up to the roof of he apartment
building where we lived.  I ran it up the side, across the roof, for it's
full length, about 80' or so.

Went back inside and turned on the radio.  It was about 4 PM.

Hmmm... not good!  I could barely hear CJAD now.

But, what's this?  Montreal Radio???   I knew enough about radio to know
that Montreal Radio was the local Coast Guard station in the Port of
Montreal.  Interesting.  I continued turning the dial.  And then, I fell off
my chair!

A small digression...  I was reading Pop-Tronics and Electronics
Illustrated, and Radio-TV Experimenter by then, and knew enough about short
wave radio to know what I was listening to.  As well, My good friend
Stanley, has  a short wave radio I would listen to when I visited his home.
I used to listen to the Green Mountain Net on his radio, and  knew what Ham
Radio was.

Well, the very first ham I heard on my radio was none other than W2OY!!!
I fell off my chair!   CQ First Class operator's only.. No lids, no kids,
no school bus riders... . And very loud and clear too!  I spent the next
week tuning in 75 meter QSO's by the dozens!  I had my  trusty Grundig tape
recorder, with which I taped virtually everything I heard!  (Unfortunately
that priceless  and irreplaceable recording was lost a few years later.)
W2OY, W3PHL, W3YAM, W3DUQ, W1ZYZ, and all the regulars of the Green Mountain
Net, and many, many others.  I even kept a paper log, which I still possess.

My mom didn't get that radio back for weeks!

It was as broad as a  barn door, and didn't receive CW, But I cut my teeth
on that rig, learning how tune a signal in just so.

After about a month, I was forced to relinquish the radio, and put back the
original antenna.  CJAD came in just fine, after we moved the radio about 90
degrees! ;-)

Next time, I'll tell you about my next Elmer, my first real short wave
radio,  my Trio 9R59.

A tip of the hat to some early mentors: Lanny, VE2AZK,  Howard, VE2ATY,
(both of whom are still licensed and active), and Barry, VE2AYH (no longer
licensed/active). While not exactly Elmers, they did give me encouragement
and pointers to the right books.

Ed, VA3ES


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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-15 Thread A.R.S. - WA5AM
On Dec 15, 2007 6:44 AM, Geoff/W5OMR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Peter Markavage wrote:
  Back in the good old days real hams didn't need Elmers.
 

 The 'good ol' days'?

 We're talking some 40 years ago.  How far back does one have to go to be
 in the 'old days'?



Well Geoff, I'd say it's a relative thing.  Your good old days may
not be the same as other people.  Sound reasonable?
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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-15 Thread Peter Markavage
I got my Novice license in 1958 when I was a Freshman in high school. CQ,
QST, Popular Electronics mags and ARRL publications were my guiding light
into amateur radio. Built my Apache (which I still own) in 1959 after I
became a General, but spent most of my early years on VHF because I
became involved with the monthly publication The VHF Amateur, which was
started by a high school friend who was a Junior in high school and, of
course, a ham. So, although I had no Elmers, I did get to rub elbows
during those early years with Ed Clegg, Ed Ladd, Amp Fagans, Dr. Allen
Katz, Jack Schenker(Polytronics Labs), Waybe Green and a number of others
as we beat the bushes for advertising dollars, technical articles and
business support.

So, to answer your question, how far back does one have to go to be in
the 'old days'? mostly depends on how long you're been licensed and what
sets in your mind as the good of days.

Pete, wa2cwa

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:44:39 -0600 Geoff/W5OMR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 Peter Markavage wrote:
  Back in the good old days real hams didn't need Elmers.

 
 The 'good ol' days'? 
 
 Pete, John either just made, or is going to make 60 years old, this 
 
 year.  He got his novice as a freshman or sophomore in high school.  
 
 We're talking some 40 years ago.  How far back does one have to go 
 to be 
 in the 'old days'?
 
 
 -- 
 Driving your AM Rig without a scope, 
 is like driving your car at night, without headlights. (K4KYV)
 
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 73 = Best Regards,
 -Geoff/W5OMR
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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-15 Thread Geoff/W5OMR

A.R.S. - WA5AM wrote:

On Dec 15, 2007 6:44 AM, Geoff/W5OMR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Peter Markavage wrote:


Back in the good old days real hams didn't need Elmers.

  

The 'good ol' days'?

We're talking some 40 years ago.  How far back does one have to go to be
in the 'old days'?





Well Geoff, I'd say it's a relative thing.  Your good old days may
not be the same as other people.  Sound reasonable?

  


I wasn't trying to start an argument, Brian...  just stating a fact ;-)

*I* won't even classify the days when *I* got my ticket as 'the good ol' 
days', as I didn't get licensed until 1984.  However, being born in 1958 
to a ham that already had 20 years of hamming under his belt, I grew up 
in what I consider to be the 'good ol' days'.


That was back about the time they finally let 40m be something other 
than a 'CW Only' band, and included 'fone.  It was about the same time 
hams got access to 15m (after giving up what has often been referred to 
as 'the best DX band hams ever had - 11m), and 5m got moved to 6m, 
because of the popularity of television.  Channel 1


In my childhood, there were BC-610's, there were DX-100's, there were 
Heathkit Cheyanne/Commanche twin mobile radios, there were xtal 
controlled aircraft radios somewhere up in the VHF range - don't 
remember if it was 6 or 10m...  there were SX-28's, 
RME-somethingoranothers, homebrewed gear up the wahzoo and more parts 
than any one person could ever shake a stick at.


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RE: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread Bob Peters
Yep...Ya all need to vote for W1PE one of this group  Hi...I wanna
win...

Bob W1PE

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This is on the edge of off topic, but Ray over at ER Mag is having
very
little support with the voting in his Best Elmer contest.  There were
several great admissions, but few (very few) votes as to which is the
best.
Ray is a great guy and a faithful AM operator.  It would sure be great
if we
could help him out and vote.  He put a lot of ink and effort into this
contest for the AM community.  I have no connection with him or the
contest
other than he sent me an email after I voted thanking me and stating
there
were very few votes and he hoped more would participate.  Just a
thought...

73,
Rick/K5IAR

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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread Bill Horne

Rick Brashear wrote:

This is on the edge of off topic, but Ray over at ER Mag is having very
little support with the voting in his Best Elmer contest.  There were
several great admissions, but few (very few) votes as to which is the best.
Ray is a great guy and a faithful AM operator.  It would sure be great if we
could help him out and vote.  He put a lot of ink and effort into this
contest for the AM community.  I have no connection with him or the contest
other than he sent me an email after I voted thanking me and stating there
were very few votes and he hoped more would participate.  Just a thought...

73,
Rick/K5IAR
  

Rick,

Please post the URL.

73, W1AC

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Lookng back through time you know its clear that i've been blind
I've been a fool
To open up my heart to all that jealousy that bitterness that ridicule

David Gray

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[AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread Rick Brashear
This is on the edge of off topic, but Ray over at ER Mag is having very
little support with the voting in his Best Elmer contest.  There were
several great admissions, but few (very few) votes as to which is the best.
Ray is a great guy and a faithful AM operator.  It would sure be great if we
could help him out and vote.  He put a lot of ink and effort into this
contest for the AM community.  I have no connection with him or the contest
other than he sent me an email after I voted thanking me and stating there
were very few votes and he hoped more would participate.  Just a thought...

73,
Rick/K5IAR

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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
Ray is indeed a great guy Rick, from the little interaction I've had
with him. A true radioman at heart, and quite friendly too. Barry felt
very comfortable turning ER over to his capable hands, and we all
benefit from his dedication to preserving this side of radio for us.

I'm thinking it's a subconscious conflict between the terms 'AM',
'Elmer', and 'contest'. And just a guess, but perhaps simply featuring
the articles each month without a competition involved would serve the
purpose better. The intent being to bring attention to those who
helped us get to where we are, rather than bring attention to
ourselves.

I confess to being a bit...biased in favor of old tube gear, but ER is
still the best radio publication I've ever read. Truly a magazine by
and of the users. Can't wait to see it arrive each month!

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ



On Dec 14, 2007 11:39 AM, Rick Brashear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is on the edge of off topic, but Ray over at ER Mag is having very
 little support with the voting in his Best Elmer contest.  There were
 several great admissions, but few (very few) votes as to which is the best.
 Ray is a great guy and a faithful AM operator.  It would sure be great if we
 could help him out and vote.  He put a lot of ink and effort into this
 contest for the AM community.  I have no connection with him or the contest
 other than he sent me an email after I voted thanking me and stating there
 were very few votes and he hoped more would participate.  Just a thought...

 73,
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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread Ellen Rugowski
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Subject: [AMRadio] ER Magazine


This is on the edge of off topic, but Ray over at ER Mag is having very
little support with the voting in his Best Elmer contest.  There were
several great admissions, but few (very few) votes as to which is the best.
Ray is a great guy and a faithful AM operator.  It would sure be great if we
could help him out and vote.  He put a lot of ink and effort into this
contest for the AM community.  I have no connection with him or the contest
other than he sent me an email after I voted thanking me and stating there
were very few votes and he hoped more would participate.  Just a thought...

73,
Rick/K5IAR


Hi Rick,

Does Ray just want AM elmers?  I can think of one who has been a great help
to me.  Or, does he want elmers in the traditional sense (as in when you're
a newb and an OT helps you out).  If it's the latter, I can't help with
that, since I'm one of those rare birds who didn't have much in the way of
an elmer (my neighbor, the ham, was a creep, so I didn't associate with him,
and the local radio club I took my Novice licensing classes through, had no
followup on the newbies at all), and as such am lucky to still be licensed
(most newbs get frustrated, and give up, if they don't have an OT to help
them).

73,
Ellen - AF9J
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RE: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread Ed Sieb
Sniff (boo-hoo)...  I never had an Elmer.  
Did it all on my own.   Now I'm the Elmer.  More lids today, I find.

Ed, VA3ES
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RE: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread Rick Brashear
I think it was open to all Amateurs.  The stories are all in, he just needs
some votes on them.

http://ermag.com/

Rick

Hi Rick,

Does Ray just want AM elmers?  I can think of one who has been a great help
to me.  Or, does he want elmers in the traditional sense (as in when you're
a newb and an OT helps you out).  If it's the latter, I can't help with
that, since I'm one of those rare birds who didn't have much in the way of
an elmer (my neighbor, the ham, was a creep, so I didn't associate with him,
and the local radio club I took my Novice licensing classes through, had no
followup on the newbies at all), and as such am lucky to still be licensed
(most newbs get frustrated, and give up, if they don't have an OT to help
them).

73,
Ellen - AF9J
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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread Jim Wilhite
I don't understand is what the deal is.  Are we supposed to read all 
those stories on the forum and pick one?  I don't know any of them or 
the authors.


Jim/W5JO


Sniff (boo-hoo)...  I never had an Elmer.
Did it all on my own.   Now I'm the Elmer.  More lids today, I find.

Ed, VA3ES


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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread A.R.S. - WA5AM
On Dec 14, 2007 11:47 AM, Jim Wilhite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't understand is what the deal is.  Are we supposed to read all
 those stories on the forum and pick one?  I don't know any of them or
 the authors.

I agree Jim, it is sort of a gray area thing.  A lot of folks had
Elmers, but that Elmer likely did not Elmer a lot of hams, so we have
to go on the words of those who were Elmered  Boy that sentence sure
is a mouthful!...

Something not easy for people to vote on, in my opinion.
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RE: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread Rick Brashear
Jim,

That's the idea.  It is quite a bit of reading.  The object is to pick the
best written one that describes the Elmer.

Rick


I don't understand is what the deal is.  Are we supposed to read all 
those stories on the forum and pick one?  I don't know any of them or 
the authors.

Jim/W5JO

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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread Jim Wilhite
Hey guys, now we know Brian and Kent are at least 40 years old.  Who 
woulda thunk it?  I have a suspicion Todd is too.


Jim/W5JO


Nearly 40 years?  I sure feel old
when I think of that ;)

73 - Brian
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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
On Dec 14, 2007 12:31 PM, Ed Sieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Now I'm the Elmer.  More lids today, I find.

What are you trying to tell us here, Ed??

(Couldn't resist the opportunity)

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ  (o:
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RE: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread Bob Peters
You know me Jim  Vote for me!!!

Bob W1PE

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Jim,

That's the idea.  It is quite a bit of reading.  The object is to pick
the
best written one that describes the Elmer.

Rick


I don't understand is what the deal is.  Are we supposed to read all 
those stories on the forum and pick one?  I don't know any of them or 
the authors.

Jim/W5JO

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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread A.R.S. - WA5AM
On Dec 14, 2007 11:31 AM, Ed Sieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sniff (boo-hoo)...  I never had an Elmer.
 Did it all on my own.   Now I'm the Elmer.  More lids today, I find.

 Ed, VA3ES

Same here Ed.  I just had an interest in doing it, and I did.  I have
friends who were there wanting the same thing, and we did our tests
together, practiced CW together, etc., but don't think we could have
hardly called each other an Elmer ...we were just helping each other
achieve our goal.  I still have one of those dear friends, and he is
still on the air with me quite often.  How long has it been since we
have been on the airwaves Kent?  Nearly 40 years?  I sure feel old
when I think of that ;)

73 - Brian
wa5am

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RE: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread Phil LaMarche

I didn't have an Elmer either.  Started at age 9 with a cat whisker radio
and went from there.  At age 10 I went 125 miles  on a bus to Milwaukee all
alone to take the test, which I passed.  59 years later and still a very
active ham on all bands and modes.

Phil 


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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 12:45 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

On Dec 14, 2007 11:31 AM, Ed Sieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sniff (boo-hoo)...  I never had an Elmer.
 Did it all on my own.   Now I'm the Elmer.  More lids today, I find.

 Ed, VA3ES

Same here Ed.  I just had an interest in doing it, and I did.  I have
friends who were there wanting the same thing, and we did our tests
together, practiced CW together, etc., but don't think we could have hardly
called each other an Elmer ...we were just helping each other achieve our
goal.  I still have one of those dear friends, and he is still on the air
with me quite often.  How long has it been since we have been on the
airwaves Kent?  Nearly 40 years?  I sure feel old when I think of that ;)

73 - Brian
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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread A.R.S. - WA5AM
On Dec 14, 2007 11:50 AM, Jim Wilhite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey guys, now we know Brian and Kent are at least 40 years old.  Who
 woulda thunk it?  I have a suspicion Todd is too.


I've been a ham for 97 years Jim.  I can't believe you didn't know that!



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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
On Dec 14, 2007 12:54 PM, A.R.S. - WA5AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Something not easy for people to vote on, in my opinion.

That's what I was thinking, Brian. The topic seems better suited for
reading, digesting, and reflection on those who made a positive impact
and contribution to Amateur Radio. Something well worth sharing, but
not lending itself well to a competition. That gets into more of a
case of writing and story-telling skills.

Problem for me is..more than one Elmer! One of my best friends and
biggest help to forward radio progress in Ray KC1BT, a former BC
engineer. He actually went to school with my dad, couple years ahead,
traded comic books with him as kids, and we end up being friends later
in life.

But Terry (whose call escapes me) was the one who gave me the Novice
test and helped me out with the code. Without him, I might have gotten
licensed much later or not at all.

Several other OTs took me under their wing and answered my endless
questions. One was a WWII vet who worked on B-24 Liberator
superchargers. Another worked with the engineers blowing the hell
outta stuff, ran a radio shop, taught me how to solder and do other
fun stuff. He wasn't a ham, though. Where do you start? How do you
end? How can you possibly give them the credit they deserve, and
somehow convert that to a competition?

Jim, I'll just say that I was a wee laddie when Brian and Kent got
licensed, but I'm knocking on 50's door in a few years. I remember 40,
sortakinda. It was a lot like 30, with more aches and pains. And there
was this little redhead out in Illinois

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ
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RE: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread Bob Peters
Ray did not have enough room to publish the all so he is going to take
the top 5 and publish them...
Gee and I thought I was big enough for you to see me Jim...

Bob W1PE  VOTE VOTE

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I didn't see you on the list Bob.  But I didn't read all of them either.

As Todd and Brian suggested these would be good articles for the 
magazine.

Jim/W5JO





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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread Ellen Rugowski
I didn't know that. I haven't gotten my Dec. issue yet (like a cheapskate, I
didn't pay to have it sent 1st Class).

Ellen - AF9J

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 Jim,

 That's the idea.  It is quite a bit of reading.  The object is to pick the
 best written one that describes the Elmer.

 Rick


 I don't understand is what the deal is.  Are we supposed to read all
 those stories on the forum and pick one?  I don't know any of them or
 the authors.

 Jim/W5JO

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Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine

2007-12-14 Thread Peter Markavage
Back in the good old days real hams didn't need Elmers.

Pete, wa2cwa
 
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:31:29 -0500 Ed Sieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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 Did it all on my own.   Now I'm the Elmer.  More lids today, I 
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RE: [AMRadio] ER magazine

2007-04-17 Thread Rick Brashear
The ER site was back up late last night.
Thanks,
Rick

It's ok here at this moment

73 ct1axg

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RE: [AMRadio] ER magazine

2007-04-16 Thread Bow
Yup.. No connection
 



Bow

W5EFR


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Is anyone else having trouble connecting with the ER website?
 
Rick/K5IZ
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