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Sniff (boo-hoo)... I never had an Elmer. Did it all on my own. Now I'm the Elmer. More lids today, I find. Ed, VA3ES I pretty well did it on my own, too. Did have an older friend give me my Novice test, and I used to call him on the phone for advice. When I got my first xmtr on the air and couldn't get to load, he came out and helped me troubleshoot it. I just wish that dumb-sounding term elmer would go away for good. What's wrong with mentor? Don k4kyv __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Don, I had more mentors once I got on the air, than I ever did before I got my ticket. Timtron, and many others have been far more helpful to my building of knowledge than any Elmers, mentors or what have you. Ed, VA3ES - Don k4kyv wrote: I pretty well did it on my own, too. Did have an older friend give me my Novice test, and I used to call him on the phone for advice. When I got my first xmtr on the air and couldn't get to load, he came out and helped me troubleshoot it. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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I just wish that dumb-sounding term elmer would go away for good. = The term is part of our history. Why Kalifornicate our heritage? K7DFW ..._._ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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' Kalifornicate' Thats a new one to use .. klc - Original Message - From: ROLYNN PRECHTL K7DFW [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 4:38 pm Subject: Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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' Kalifornicate' Thats a new one to use .. klc It started out as Californicate. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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- Original Message - From: Geoff/W5OMR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ' Kalifornicate' Thats a new one to use .. klc Was new to me, too. I checked Google for the term... Results *1* - *10* of about *983* for *Kalifornicate*. (*0.15* seconds) Apparently, it's -out there- Yes, since the early 1950s, at least. I thought it had gone away. Too bad it didn't. 73, Barrie, W7ALW -- Driving your AM Rig without a scope, is like driving your car at night, without headlights. (K4KYV) -- 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Peter Markavage wrote: Back in the good old days real hams didn't need Elmers. The 'good ol' days'? ~~~ *What AM Is To Me* by John E. Coleman, WA5BXO *O*perating AM is not about communicating using the most efficient mode of transmission or the latest technology. It is about technical understanding of what is really happening in one's transmitter. Not just the standard old definitions but down in the nitty-gritty. It is about understanding the technology of old and new. It's about understanding why one circuit is better suited for a job than another even though both have the same definition. It is about home-brew equipment and modifications. It is about fellowship and a gentleman's mannerisms. It is about fun in learning. It's a little new stuff mixed with some nostalgia and used in a mode that is pleasurable to the operator and the listener. Sounds a lot like Ham Radio in general. Don't misunderstand me, there is a lot more to Ham Radio than operating AM. There are so many aspects of Ham Radio that I'm sure I could not do the list justice. For this I am glad. Ham Radio has always been the seeds of electronic and communication technology. And I hope it continues to be. Somewhere deep in my brain are the memories of the days of learning and wonderment. I can not forget the first time I saw the bottom of the Sears 1950 TV as the repairman went in with his meter and hand tools to repair the set so that I could watch Roy Rogers and Dale Evans on the next Saturday Morning. All the tubes glowing and how did it get in there (the picture and the sound) I asked myself and many others. Then later while in high school and having upgraded to general class, I was privileged to not only see some of the greatest radio transmitters to have ever been home brewed, but I was known by the men that built them on a first name basis. Walking in to the shack of K5SWK in the evening to see the 833s and 866s glowing and to hear the feedback from the modulation transformer and slight hum of the pole pegs is a memory that will always make me stop what I doing and ponder the nostalgia. Do I operate AM because I can't let go of a childhood memory? You bet I do. And I hope to stir some of those memories in others if possible and to plant some seeds of my own. Many Thanks and 73 to those Elmers Wayne, W5FJS Otis, K5SWK Tom, K5IBW Koby, K5MZH Jake, K5IQV Bill, WA5DWXGene, WA5ATH Gene, W5HQJ Roy, W5MRY Steve, K5LTK Ronnie, K5MKB Don, K4KYV This is just to name a few and I know that a lot are silent keys and some have changed their calls. But I will always remember them with the calls heard first. ~ Pete, John either just made, or is going to make 60 years old, this year. He got his novice as a freshman or sophomore in high school. We're talking some 40 years ago. How far back does one have to go to be in the 'old days'? -- Driving your AM Rig without a scope, is like driving your car at night, without headlights. (K4KYV) -- 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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When I was a kid, the local library was my elmer - I was sure glad they had books on ham radio for me to borrow - over and over and over! Steve WD8DAS ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Good Day All, My Elmer neither stood on two legs, nor took a single breath of life in the conventional sense --- and yet, he was as much alive and inspiring as any conventional Elmer...to me at any rate... Elmer here was my very first SW receiver: a beat-up, 3rd hand, $40.00 Hallicrafters S-77A, that I found through the want ads in one of my Dad's union newsletters. Looking back, it was surely a good thing that this receiver had the many shortcomings that it did, for these very deficiencies taught me all about improving the performance of things electronic, and made me appreciate the fine art of homebrewing --- or, perhaps more accurately, it put a face to that most noble of Amateur activities, i.e. ...tinkering and experimenting... To whit: -Being an AC/DC receiver, its shocking (literally!) performance made me appreciate the outboard installation of an AC isolation transformer; -Its poor sensitivity on the higher bands forced me to build a regenerative pre-selector; -Its poor selectivity taught me about crystal lattice filters, and Q-multipliers (I installed a Heath QF-1), and passive audio filters (I built one using 88-mh. telephone toroids); -Its poor dial calibration inspired me to build a crystal calibrator, using one of those $4.50 100-KHz crystals that Jan Crystals used to sell back in the day; -Its poor stability on 20-, 15-, and 10-meters compelled me to build a crystal controlled down converter, and, On on it went! In fact, the VERY FIRST working Ham station I ever saw was my own --- and with the singular exception of that receiver, the station was entirely homebrewed... It held sway at VE3CUI for some 12 years --- the transmitters may have come gone in that time, but the old receiver remained in its well-earned central spot atop the operating position. In fact, it was not retired until 1983, when a brand new Yaesu FT-980 occupied its spot...but I still have the ol' lad, and fire it up from time to time, always amazed to re-discover the incredible quality of the audio emanating from it, and re-living the fuzzy warm memories that only come back to you when you greet a long-lost, old friend... ~73!~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Taking a cue from Eddy, I will regale you all with my various Elmers such as they were. My first Elmer much like Eddy's, was a receiver. Ah, but what a receive it was too! ;-) I was 14 years old, and barely knew enough theory even to be dangerous. My mom had a nice Motorola All-American-5 in the kitchen which we listened to the local news every day. CJAD 800, Montreal. A 50 KW blowtorch. One day, Mom complained that reception was not what it used to be. So I took it upon myself to correct what I perceived to be a problem with the radio. I took it into my bedroom, and examined the speaker. Looked OK. Hmmm? Now what else could I do? So, I decided that the antenna, a mere coil on the back of the radio, was insufficient to do the job! What we needed was a bigger antenna! Longer, in fact! Good idea, I thought, and went about scrounging some wire. I found a roll of JKT-Quad telephone cable. The typical inside-wiring 4-conductor stuff, red-yellow-black-green standard telephone wire. Must have been at least 80' feet of it. So, I carefully snipped off the existing flat coiled loop, and replaced it with the run of telephone wire, and ran it up to the roof of he apartment building where we lived. I ran it up the side, across the roof, for it's full length, about 80' or so. Went back inside and turned on the radio. It was about 4 PM. Hmmm... not good! I could barely hear CJAD now. But, what's this? Montreal Radio??? I knew enough about radio to know that Montreal Radio was the local Coast Guard station in the Port of Montreal. Interesting. I continued turning the dial. And then, I fell off my chair! A small digression... I was reading Pop-Tronics and Electronics Illustrated, and Radio-TV Experimenter by then, and knew enough about short wave radio to know what I was listening to. As well, My good friend Stanley, has a short wave radio I would listen to when I visited his home. I used to listen to the Green Mountain Net on his radio, and knew what Ham Radio was. Well, the very first ham I heard on my radio was none other than W2OY!!! I fell off my chair! CQ First Class operator's only.. No lids, no kids, no school bus riders... . And very loud and clear too! I spent the next week tuning in 75 meter QSO's by the dozens! I had my trusty Grundig tape recorder, with which I taped virtually everything I heard! (Unfortunately that priceless and irreplaceable recording was lost a few years later.) W2OY, W3PHL, W3YAM, W3DUQ, W1ZYZ, and all the regulars of the Green Mountain Net, and many, many others. I even kept a paper log, which I still possess. My mom didn't get that radio back for weeks! It was as broad as a barn door, and didn't receive CW, But I cut my teeth on that rig, learning how tune a signal in just so. After about a month, I was forced to relinquish the radio, and put back the original antenna. CJAD came in just fine, after we moved the radio about 90 degrees! ;-) Next time, I'll tell you about my next Elmer, my first real short wave radio, my Trio 9R59. A tip of the hat to some early mentors: Lanny, VE2AZK, Howard, VE2ATY, (both of whom are still licensed and active), and Barry, VE2AYH (no longer licensed/active). While not exactly Elmers, they did give me encouragement and pointers to the right books. Ed, VA3ES __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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On Dec 15, 2007 6:44 AM, Geoff/W5OMR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Markavage wrote: Back in the good old days real hams didn't need Elmers. The 'good ol' days'? We're talking some 40 years ago. How far back does one have to go to be in the 'old days'? Well Geoff, I'd say it's a relative thing. Your good old days may not be the same as other people. Sound reasonable? __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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I got my Novice license in 1958 when I was a Freshman in high school. CQ, QST, Popular Electronics mags and ARRL publications were my guiding light into amateur radio. Built my Apache (which I still own) in 1959 after I became a General, but spent most of my early years on VHF because I became involved with the monthly publication The VHF Amateur, which was started by a high school friend who was a Junior in high school and, of course, a ham. So, although I had no Elmers, I did get to rub elbows during those early years with Ed Clegg, Ed Ladd, Amp Fagans, Dr. Allen Katz, Jack Schenker(Polytronics Labs), Waybe Green and a number of others as we beat the bushes for advertising dollars, technical articles and business support. So, to answer your question, how far back does one have to go to be in the 'old days'? mostly depends on how long you're been licensed and what sets in your mind as the good of days. Pete, wa2cwa On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:44:39 -0600 Geoff/W5OMR [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Peter Markavage wrote: Back in the good old days real hams didn't need Elmers. The 'good ol' days'? Pete, John either just made, or is going to make 60 years old, this year. He got his novice as a freshman or sophomore in high school. We're talking some 40 years ago. How far back does one have to go to be in the 'old days'? -- Driving your AM Rig without a scope, is like driving your car at night, without headlights. (K4KYV) -- 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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A.R.S. - WA5AM wrote: On Dec 15, 2007 6:44 AM, Geoff/W5OMR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Markavage wrote: Back in the good old days real hams didn't need Elmers. The 'good ol' days'? We're talking some 40 years ago. How far back does one have to go to be in the 'old days'? Well Geoff, I'd say it's a relative thing. Your good old days may not be the same as other people. Sound reasonable? I wasn't trying to start an argument, Brian... just stating a fact ;-) *I* won't even classify the days when *I* got my ticket as 'the good ol' days', as I didn't get licensed until 1984. However, being born in 1958 to a ham that already had 20 years of hamming under his belt, I grew up in what I consider to be the 'good ol' days'. That was back about the time they finally let 40m be something other than a 'CW Only' band, and included 'fone. It was about the same time hams got access to 15m (after giving up what has often been referred to as 'the best DX band hams ever had - 11m), and 5m got moved to 6m, because of the popularity of television. Channel 1 In my childhood, there were BC-610's, there were DX-100's, there were Heathkit Cheyanne/Commanche twin mobile radios, there were xtal controlled aircraft radios somewhere up in the VHF range - don't remember if it was 6 or 10m... there were SX-28's, RME-somethingoranothers, homebrewed gear up the wahzoo and more parts than any one person could ever shake a stick at. -- Driving your AM Rig without a scope, is like driving your car at night, without headlights. (K4KYV) -- 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Yep...Ya all need to vote for W1PE one of this group Hi...I wanna win... Bob W1PE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Brashear Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:39 AM To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service' Subject: [AMRadio] ER Magazine This is on the edge of off topic, but Ray over at ER Mag is having very little support with the voting in his Best Elmer contest. There were several great admissions, but few (very few) votes as to which is the best. Ray is a great guy and a faithful AM operator. It would sure be great if we could help him out and vote. He put a lot of ink and effort into this contest for the AM community. I have no connection with him or the contest other than he sent me an email after I voted thanking me and stating there were very few votes and he hoped more would participate. Just a thought... 73, Rick/K5IAR __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Rick Brashear wrote: This is on the edge of off topic, but Ray over at ER Mag is having very little support with the voting in his Best Elmer contest. There were several great admissions, but few (very few) votes as to which is the best. Ray is a great guy and a faithful AM operator. It would sure be great if we could help him out and vote. He put a lot of ink and effort into this contest for the AM community. I have no connection with him or the contest other than he sent me an email after I voted thanking me and stating there were very few votes and he hoped more would participate. Just a thought... 73, Rick/K5IAR Rick, Please post the URL. 73, W1AC -- Lookng back through time you know its clear that i've been blind I've been a fool To open up my heart to all that jealousy that bitterness that ridicule David Gray __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
[AMRadio] ER Magazine
This is on the edge of off topic, but Ray over at ER Mag is having very little support with the voting in his Best Elmer contest. There were several great admissions, but few (very few) votes as to which is the best. Ray is a great guy and a faithful AM operator. It would sure be great if we could help him out and vote. He put a lot of ink and effort into this contest for the AM community. I have no connection with him or the contest other than he sent me an email after I voted thanking me and stating there were very few votes and he hoped more would participate. Just a thought... 73, Rick/K5IAR __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Ray is indeed a great guy Rick, from the little interaction I've had with him. A true radioman at heart, and quite friendly too. Barry felt very comfortable turning ER over to his capable hands, and we all benefit from his dedication to preserving this side of radio for us. I'm thinking it's a subconscious conflict between the terms 'AM', 'Elmer', and 'contest'. And just a guess, but perhaps simply featuring the articles each month without a competition involved would serve the purpose better. The intent being to bring attention to those who helped us get to where we are, rather than bring attention to ourselves. I confess to being a bit...biased in favor of old tube gear, but ER is still the best radio publication I've ever read. Truly a magazine by and of the users. Can't wait to see it arrive each month! ~ Todd, KA1KAQ On Dec 14, 2007 11:39 AM, Rick Brashear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is on the edge of off topic, but Ray over at ER Mag is having very little support with the voting in his Best Elmer contest. There were several great admissions, but few (very few) votes as to which is the best. Ray is a great guy and a faithful AM operator. It would sure be great if we could help him out and vote. He put a lot of ink and effort into this contest for the AM community. I have no connection with him or the contest other than he sent me an email after I voted thanking me and stating there were very few votes and he hoped more would participate. Just a thought... 73, Rick/K5IAR __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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- Original Message - From: Rick Brashear [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service' amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:39 AM Subject: [AMRadio] ER Magazine This is on the edge of off topic, but Ray over at ER Mag is having very little support with the voting in his Best Elmer contest. There were several great admissions, but few (very few) votes as to which is the best. Ray is a great guy and a faithful AM operator. It would sure be great if we could help him out and vote. He put a lot of ink and effort into this contest for the AM community. I have no connection with him or the contest other than he sent me an email after I voted thanking me and stating there were very few votes and he hoped more would participate. Just a thought... 73, Rick/K5IAR Hi Rick, Does Ray just want AM elmers? I can think of one who has been a great help to me. Or, does he want elmers in the traditional sense (as in when you're a newb and an OT helps you out). If it's the latter, I can't help with that, since I'm one of those rare birds who didn't have much in the way of an elmer (my neighbor, the ham, was a creep, so I didn't associate with him, and the local radio club I took my Novice licensing classes through, had no followup on the newbies at all), and as such am lucky to still be licensed (most newbs get frustrated, and give up, if they don't have an OT to help them). 73, Ellen - AF9J Extra Class since 1994 __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Sniff (boo-hoo)... I never had an Elmer. Did it all on my own. Now I'm the Elmer. More lids today, I find. Ed, VA3ES __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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I think it was open to all Amateurs. The stories are all in, he just needs some votes on them. http://ermag.com/ Rick Hi Rick, Does Ray just want AM elmers? I can think of one who has been a great help to me. Or, does he want elmers in the traditional sense (as in when you're a newb and an OT helps you out). If it's the latter, I can't help with that, since I'm one of those rare birds who didn't have much in the way of an elmer (my neighbor, the ham, was a creep, so I didn't associate with him, and the local radio club I took my Novice licensing classes through, had no followup on the newbies at all), and as such am lucky to still be licensed (most newbs get frustrated, and give up, if they don't have an OT to help them). 73, Ellen - AF9J Extra Class since 1994 __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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I don't understand is what the deal is. Are we supposed to read all those stories on the forum and pick one? I don't know any of them or the authors. Jim/W5JO Sniff (boo-hoo)... I never had an Elmer. Did it all on my own. Now I'm the Elmer. More lids today, I find. Ed, VA3ES __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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On Dec 14, 2007 11:47 AM, Jim Wilhite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand is what the deal is. Are we supposed to read all those stories on the forum and pick one? I don't know any of them or the authors. I agree Jim, it is sort of a gray area thing. A lot of folks had Elmers, but that Elmer likely did not Elmer a lot of hams, so we have to go on the words of those who were Elmered Boy that sentence sure is a mouthful!... Something not easy for people to vote on, in my opinion. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Jim, That's the idea. It is quite a bit of reading. The object is to pick the best written one that describes the Elmer. Rick I don't understand is what the deal is. Are we supposed to read all those stories on the forum and pick one? I don't know any of them or the authors. Jim/W5JO __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Hey guys, now we know Brian and Kent are at least 40 years old. Who woulda thunk it? I have a suspicion Todd is too. Jim/W5JO Nearly 40 years? I sure feel old when I think of that ;) 73 - Brian wa5am __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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On Dec 14, 2007 12:31 PM, Ed Sieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I'm the Elmer. More lids today, I find. What are you trying to tell us here, Ed?? (Couldn't resist the opportunity) ~ Todd, KA1KAQ (o: __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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You know me Jim Vote for me!!! Bob W1PE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Brashear Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 11:52 AM To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service' Subject: RE: [AMRadio] ER Magazine Jim, That's the idea. It is quite a bit of reading. The object is to pick the best written one that describes the Elmer. Rick I don't understand is what the deal is. Are we supposed to read all those stories on the forum and pick one? I don't know any of them or the authors. Jim/W5JO __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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On Dec 14, 2007 11:31 AM, Ed Sieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sniff (boo-hoo)... I never had an Elmer. Did it all on my own. Now I'm the Elmer. More lids today, I find. Ed, VA3ES Same here Ed. I just had an interest in doing it, and I did. I have friends who were there wanting the same thing, and we did our tests together, practiced CW together, etc., but don't think we could have hardly called each other an Elmer ...we were just helping each other achieve our goal. I still have one of those dear friends, and he is still on the air with me quite often. How long has it been since we have been on the airwaves Kent? Nearly 40 years? I sure feel old when I think of that ;) 73 - Brian wa5am -- Money is only temporary, radios are forever - Jim Little aka the old dawg/K5BAI Harvard Minor Planet Station (MPC) H44/Cascade Mtn. Arkansas www.arksky.org __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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I didn't have an Elmer either. Started at age 9 with a cat whisker radio and went from there. At age 10 I went 125 miles on a bus to Milwaukee all alone to take the test, which I passed. 59 years later and still a very active ham on all bands and modes. Phil Philip LaMarche LaMarche Enterprises, Inc. www.instantgourmetspices.com www.w9dvm.com 800-395-7795 pin 02 727-944-3226 FAX 727-937-8834 NASFT 30210 W9DVM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A.R.S. - WA5AM Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 12:45 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine On Dec 14, 2007 11:31 AM, Ed Sieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sniff (boo-hoo)... I never had an Elmer. Did it all on my own. Now I'm the Elmer. More lids today, I find. Ed, VA3ES Same here Ed. I just had an interest in doing it, and I did. I have friends who were there wanting the same thing, and we did our tests together, practiced CW together, etc., but don't think we could have hardly called each other an Elmer ...we were just helping each other achieve our goal. I still have one of those dear friends, and he is still on the air with me quite often. How long has it been since we have been on the airwaves Kent? Nearly 40 years? I sure feel old when I think of that ;) 73 - Brian wa5am -- Money is only temporary, radios are forever - Jim Little aka the old dawg/K5BAI Harvard Minor Planet Station (MPC) H44/Cascade Mtn. Arkansas www.arksky.org __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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On Dec 14, 2007 11:50 AM, Jim Wilhite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, now we know Brian and Kent are at least 40 years old. Who woulda thunk it? I have a suspicion Todd is too. I've been a ham for 97 years Jim. I can't believe you didn't know that! -- Money is only temporary, radios are forever - Jim Little aka the old dawg/K5BAI Harvard Minor Planet Station (MPC) H44/Cascade Mtn. Arkansas www.arksky.org __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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On Dec 14, 2007 12:54 PM, A.R.S. - WA5AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something not easy for people to vote on, in my opinion. That's what I was thinking, Brian. The topic seems better suited for reading, digesting, and reflection on those who made a positive impact and contribution to Amateur Radio. Something well worth sharing, but not lending itself well to a competition. That gets into more of a case of writing and story-telling skills. Problem for me is..more than one Elmer! One of my best friends and biggest help to forward radio progress in Ray KC1BT, a former BC engineer. He actually went to school with my dad, couple years ahead, traded comic books with him as kids, and we end up being friends later in life. But Terry (whose call escapes me) was the one who gave me the Novice test and helped me out with the code. Without him, I might have gotten licensed much later or not at all. Several other OTs took me under their wing and answered my endless questions. One was a WWII vet who worked on B-24 Liberator superchargers. Another worked with the engineers blowing the hell outta stuff, ran a radio shop, taught me how to solder and do other fun stuff. He wasn't a ham, though. Where do you start? How do you end? How can you possibly give them the credit they deserve, and somehow convert that to a competition? Jim, I'll just say that I was a wee laddie when Brian and Kent got licensed, but I'm knocking on 50's door in a few years. I remember 40, sortakinda. It was a lot like 30, with more aches and pains. And there was this little redhead out in Illinois ~ Todd, KA1KAQ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Ray did not have enough room to publish the all so he is going to take the top 5 and publish them... Gee and I thought I was big enough for you to see me Jim... Bob W1PE VOTE VOTE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Wilhite Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 2:30 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] ER Magazine I didn't see you on the list Bob. But I didn't read all of them either. As Todd and Brian suggested these would be good articles for the magazine. Jim/W5JO You know me Jim Vote for me!!! Bob W1PE __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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I didn't know that. I haven't gotten my Dec. issue yet (like a cheapskate, I didn't pay to have it sent 1st Class). Ellen - AF9J - Original Message - From: Rick Brashear [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service' amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 11:52 AM Subject: RE: [AMRadio] ER Magazine Jim, That's the idea. It is quite a bit of reading. The object is to pick the best written one that describes the Elmer. Rick I don't understand is what the deal is. Are we supposed to read all those stories on the forum and pick one? I don't know any of them or the authors. Jim/W5JO __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Back in the good old days real hams didn't need Elmers. Pete, wa2cwa On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:31:29 -0500 Ed Sieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sniff (boo-hoo)... I never had an Elmer. Did it all on my own. Now I'm the Elmer. More lids today, I find. Ed, VA3ES __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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The ER site was back up late last night. Thanks, Rick It's ok here at this moment 73 ct1axg __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Yup.. No connection Bow W5EFR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Brashear Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 20:52 To: 'AM Radio List' Subject: [AMRadio] ER magazine Is anyone else having trouble connecting with the ER website? Rick/K5IZ __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/762 - Release Date: 4/15/2007 16:22 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/762 - Release Date: 4/15/2007 16:22 __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.