[amsat-bb] Presentation Pointers

2011-04-06 Thread Clint Bradford
Informative and entertaining short videos on what NOT to do to your audiences 
with your presentations.

From Microsoft ... (they have some program called PowerPoint, I have been 
told. Personally, I am a Keynote person ... (grin)).

http://tinyurl.com/3hh7l9o

Clint, K6LCS

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[amsat-bb] Re: Bird

2011-04-06 Thread Bob- W7LRD


Well I was in high school when that was popular.   Should it be our 
satellites theme song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZThquH5t0ow 

Fun topic for a slow afternoon.  We really need a big bird (heo). 

73 Bob W7LRD 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2011 9:11:49 PM 
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Bird 


  
A-well-a everybody's heard about the bird 
B-b-b-bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word 
A-well-a bird, bird, bird, the bird is the word 
A-well-a bird, bird, bird, well the bird is the word 
A-well-a bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word 
A-well-a bird, bird, bird, well the bird is the word 
A-well-a bird, bird, b-bird's the word 
A-well-a bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word 
A-well-a bird, bird, bird, well the bird is the word 
A-well-a bird, bird, b-bird's the word 
A-well-a don't you know about the bird? 
Well, everybody knows that the bird is the word! 
A-well-a bird, bird, b-bird's the word 
A-well-a...                                           By: Peter Griffin 
  
I do not know the year of that song but I am sure some of you do. 
  
I would like to thank ALL of those responsible for the Birds up there and 
keeping them going. I had a great time this last weekend and made lots of new 
contacts. 
  
Also thanks to those who participated in my FUN!!! 
  
Kevin 
KF7MYK 


        
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[amsat-bb] Re: Bird

2011-04-06 Thread Ari Kosonen
2011/4/6 Kevin Deane summit...@live.com

 A-well-a everybody's heard about the bird
 B-b-b-bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word

 I do not know the year of that song but I am sure some of you do.

Yes, wikipedia does: 1963
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfin_Bird

Later, in '80's this was popularized by the soundtrack of
Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket, from where i remember it
but never thought how suitable this would be as a theme
song for sat ops.

73 de Ari OH3KAV
Tampere, Finland (grid: KP11)
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[amsat-bb] Re: Bird

2011-04-06 Thread i8cvs
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From: Kevin Deane summit...@live.com
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 6:11 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Bird

 A-well-a don't you know about the bird?
 Well, everybody knows that the bird is the word !

 Kevin
 KF7MYK

Hi Kevin, KF7MYK

No...KevinWith the lot af LEO satellites actually good for very
small the only good bird for me is my wattmeter/reflectometer
RIRD 43 !

If you don't own it I suggest you to buy one and you will be happy
experimenting.

73 de

i8CVS Domenico


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[amsat-bb] AO-27 Eclipse

2011-04-06 Thread Kevin Deane

 
Please correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me that the AO-27 is creeping 
further and farther down into the US before it goes into eclipse. A lot of 
times at great elevation, with Alaska, Canada and some of the US well inside 
the footprint.
 
Of course everyone is asleep at this time, but I was wondering if this will 
keep getting better and maybe some of the earlybirds would like to try workin 
it like we do the 51 so early in the morning as we so often do?
 
Thank's for any input,
Kevin
KF7MYK
  
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[amsat-bb] Re: icom r-20, control software and satellites

2011-04-06 Thread Nader Omer
Hi
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKwVSqDZ81k
 
 
73 , Nader
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[amsat-bb] Re: Bird...much off topic

2011-04-06 Thread Roger Kolakowski
Even  though I well remember the Trashman...I relly couldn' help but 
mention this newest rendition:

http://www.metatube.com/en/videos/15957/Family-Guy-Peter-Bird-is-the-Word-Video/

Roger
WA1KAT

On 4/6/2011 6:15 AM, Ari Kosonen wrote:
 2011/4/6 Kevin Deane summit...@live.com

 A-well-a everybody's heard about the bird
 B-b-b-bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word

 I do not know the year of that song but I am sure some of you do.

 Yes, wikipedia does: 1963
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfin_Bird

 Later, in '80's this was popularized by the soundtrack of
 Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket, from where i remember it
 but never thought how suitable this would be as a theme
 song for sat ops.

 73 de Ari OH3KAV
 Tampere, Finland (grid: KP11)
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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 Eclipse

2011-04-06 Thread Zachary Beougher
Hi Kevin,

AO27 is usually (if ever) on for morning passes.  Did you mean AO51?

73,

Zack
KD8KSN

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Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 6:36 AM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-27 Eclipse



Please correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me that the AO-27 is 
creeping further and farther down into the US before it goes into eclipse. A 
lot of times at great elevation, with Alaska, Canada and some of the US well 
inside the footprint.

Of course everyone is asleep at this time, but I was wondering if this will 
keep getting better and maybe some of the earlybirds would like to try 
workin it like we do the 51 so early in the morning as we so often do?

Thank's for any input,
Kevin
KF7MYK

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[amsat-bb] Has anyone heard KC7CN???

2011-04-06 Thread zach hillerson
I miss most of the mid-day passes due to work (uugh) but am on most of the 
evening passes and I haven't heard KL7CN yet on his Caribbean adventure.  I'm 
curious if anyone has heard/worked him and if so, is there a pattern to the 
passes he is on?  I'd like to try and sneak home during a day pass if I 
thought he would be on...

Thanks,

Zach
N4ERZ



  
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[amsat-bb] Re: Has anyone heard KC7CN???

2011-04-06 Thread Dave Webb KB1PVH
Zach,

I heard him the other day, Monday I think it was. That's it.

Dave - KB1PVH

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On Apr 6, 2011 10:57 AM, zach hillerson qstick...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I miss most of the mid-day passes due to work (uugh) but am on most of
the evening passes and I haven't heard KL7CN yet on his Caribbean
adventure.  I'm curious if anyone has heard/worked him and if so, is there a
pattern to the passes he is on?  I'd like to try and sneak home during a
day pass if I thought he would be on...

 Thanks,

 Zach
 N4ERZ




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[amsat-bb] Re: Bird

2011-04-06 Thread Mike1234
I remember that song from the early sixty's. There was a show on that had a
mad scientist clown type guy called Glue Arty. That was kind of his theme
song when he appeared on the show. He was pulled off the air for trying to
blow up an animal, a rat I think with a fire cracker. There maybe someone
on here that remembers more than I do. I was about ten years old at the
time.

 

   Mike   N8GBU

 

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[amsat-bb] ND9M/MM Sat Ops: 06-10 April

2011-04-06 Thread Clary, James T, Civilian
My ship was originally scheduled to sail from Jacksonville today, and do
donuts in the ocean for a few days before heading up to Charleston on
Sunday. All that has been chucked out the window; now we're to leave
tomorrow (07 April) in the late afternoon and head straight for
Charleston, so there won't be any new wet grid squares along the way. 

 

We'll get to Charleston early Friday morning, and I'll sign off the ship
on Sunday. The shipyard we're going to is in grid FM02. That grid isn't
super rare, but it's not all that common on the birds either. I should
be able to get on from FM02 at various times on Friday and/or Saturday
before I jump the rail. Unfortunately, there will still be a lot going
on aboard the ship, so I can't in good conscience predict what pass(es)
I'll be on.

 

My XYL Cori has fully recovered from her shoulder surgery and will pick
me up when I leave the ship on Sunday. We'll drive to south Florida
where I will get a physical check up I need for renewing my merchant
marine documents that will be expiring this summer. Our driving route
will be FM02 - FM03 - EM93 - EM92 - EM91 - EM90 - EL99 - EL98 - EL97 -
EL96 - EL95. If you need any of those, send me an e-mail and I'll see if
we can work something out.

 

Pse note that my shipboard e-mail address will remain valid while I'm
off the ship, but I will not have access to it until I return to the
ship in several months. After Saturday (09 April), pse use my regular
e-mail address, claryco @ aol.com.

 

Now it's back to working on the logs...

 

73 for now,

 

Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC

 

 

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[amsat-bb] ISS close call

2011-04-06 Thread Mike1234
I was following the space junk that was heading very close to the space
station. The news said the junk was part of a Chinese communications
satellite. Being a newbie here I was wonder if it was an old bird which was
used for ham communications at one time?

 

   Mike   N8GBU

 

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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 Eclipse

2011-04-06 Thread Zachary Beougher
If AO27 was on you would hear the carrier.  I honestly am not sure about AO27 
only working in the sun since whenever I work it it is in the sun, but I don’t 
think it is ever scheduled to be on during overnight passes anyhow.  Someone 
please correct me if I am wrong.  Here is the schedule: 
http://www.ao27.org/AO27/index.shtml

Zack
KD8KSN 

From: Kevin Deane 
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:14 AM
To: Zachary Beougher 
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] AO-27 Eclipse


Well I thought it only worked in the sunlight? I have tried to talk to myself 
on it at night time to no avail, so I have been watching it go into shadow 
wondering if it is working just before that, maybe I was doing something wrong, 
but I swear I have tried it several times.
 
Kevin

 
 From: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com
 To: summit...@live.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-27 Eclipse
 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 09:59:28 -0400
 
 Hi Kevin,
 
 AO27 is usually (if ever) on for morning passes. Did you mean AO51?
 
 73,
 
 Zack
 KD8KSN
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Kevin Deane
 Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 6:36 AM
 To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-27 Eclipse
 
 
 
 Please correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me that the AO-27 is 
 creeping further and farther down into the US before it goes into eclipse. A 
 lot of times at great elevation, with Alaska, Canada and some of the US well 
 inside the footprint.
 
 Of course everyone is asleep at this time, but I was wondering if this will 
 keep getting better and maybe some of the earlybirds would like to try 
 workin it like we do the 51 so early in the morning as we so often do?
 
 Thank's for any input,
 Kevin
 KF7MYK
 
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[amsat-bb] Re: Bird

2011-04-06 Thread Reicher, James
The song is Surfin' Bird. It was released in 1963 by The Trashmen.

The song was included in Dr. Demento's 20th Anniversary Collection

73 de W0HV, Jim in Raymore, MO (ex-N8AU)
 
Light travels faster than sound...  This is why some people appear bright until 
you hear them speak.


Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 21:11:49 -0700
From: Kevin Deane summit...@live.com
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Bird
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Message-ID: col107-w5615a9c71aed7876bd264c83...@phx.gbl
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1


 
A-well-a everybody's heard about the bird
B-b-b-bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a bird, bird, bird, the bird is the word
A-well-a bird, bird, bird, well the bird is the word
A-well-a bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a bird, bird, bird, well the bird is the word
A-well-a bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a bird, bird, bird, well the bird is the word
A-well-a bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a don't you know about the bird?
Well, everybody knows that the bird is the word!
A-well-a bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a...   By: Peter Griffin
 
I do not know the year of that song but I am sure some of you do.
 
I would like to thank ALL of those responsible for the Birds up there and 
keeping them going. I had a great time this last weekend and made lots of new 
contacts.
 
Also thanks to those who participated in my FUN!!!
 
Kevin
KF7MYK


  


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[amsat-bb] Re: Bird

2011-04-06 Thread Mike1234
Actually, it was a rat Mark. Hee Hee It was on here in Toledo too. I imagine
possibly a state run show maybe. Back in those days, every broadcast was
picked up by antenna and rotator. My brother was 9 years older than me
that’s how I got to watch it. If I got caught man would I be in trouble.
Back then the old belt or switch took care of business.

   Mike   N8GBU
 

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From: Mark L. Hammond [mailto:marklhamm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 1:34 PM
To: mikef1...@buckeye-express.com
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Bird

Oh my...that brings up old memories.

Wasn't he the Ghoul?Out of the Cleveland broadcast area, right?
HAhahaaha..  That show as hilarious.

And I thought it was Froggy he was blowing up?

Mark N8MH

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Mike1234 mikef1...@buckeye-express.com
wrote:
 I remember that song from the early sixty's. There was a show on that had
a
 mad scientist clown type guy called Glue Arty. That was kind of his theme
 song when he appeared on the show. He was pulled off the air for trying to
 blow up an animal, a rat I think with a fire cracker. There maybe
someone
 on here that remembers more than I do. I was about ten years old at the
 time.



       Mike   N8GBU



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[amsat-bb] QSOs North America LU/Q on AO7

2011-04-06 Thread Luis Quintas
Bob (N3LL) and I (LU6QI) made a QSO on AO7 in SSB Mode B at 22.22 UTC
on April 5, 2011, during orbit 66529. The distance between our
respective QTHs is 6914.6 km.
I also contacted Adrian ZF8/ZF2AE a few days before, covering agn more
than 6000 km.
I use some antennas from Cushcratf (Oscar Boomers) 22XB (14db) in 2mts
and 738XB (15.5 db) in 70cm with an elevation-azimuth rotor.  There is
some kind of smooth valley to the north and west of my location and it
looks vy clear in those directions, so I can listen quite often this
satellite almost at the horizon level.
I have worked on AO7 Mode B other stations from North America and in
some cases they used portable antennas or yagis fixed at some angle
(named 20 degrees up) and we could still make a QSO.
I am QRV for other stations who would like to attempt a QSO either in SSB or CW.
My grid locator is FF66TQ. My mail is lu6quin...@gmail.com
Tnx, Best 73 de
--luis
LU6QI
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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 Eclipse

2011-04-06 Thread Jeremy Bomkamp
 AO-27 is on a timer and is usually only active on ascending passes about the 
time it crosses 30 degrees North latitude.  There is a program that will 
predict when it is in analog repeater mode and it can be downloaded 
at http://sites.google.com/site/ao27satellitescheduler/
When you first run the program you need to update the files(TOPR and EPOCH) 
instructions are on the page, simple as pressing CTRL+U


  
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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 Eclipse

2011-04-06 Thread KF1BUZ
Just had that a0-27 pass, and made a contact, I could hear a lot of people, so 
if its in the sun it works, 
Then it started to make a horrible noise

Dan

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From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf 
Of Zachary Beougher
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:15 PM
To: Kevin Deane; amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 Eclipse

If AO27 was on you would hear the carrier.  I honestly am not sure about AO27 
only working in the sun since whenever I work it it is in the sun, but I don’t 
think it is ever scheduled to be on during overnight passes anyhow.  Someone 
please correct me if I am wrong.  Here is the schedule: 
http://www.ao27.org/AO27/index.shtml

Zack
KD8KSN 

From: Kevin Deane
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:14 AM
To: Zachary Beougher
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] AO-27 Eclipse


Well I thought it only worked in the sunlight? I have tried to talk to myself 
on it at night time to no avail, so I have been watching it go into shadow 
wondering if it is working just before that, maybe I was doing something wrong, 
but I swear I have tried it several times.
 
Kevin

 
 From: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com
 To: summit...@live.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-27 Eclipse
 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 09:59:28 -0400
 
 Hi Kevin,
 
 AO27 is usually (if ever) on for morning passes. Did you mean AO51?
 
 73,
 
 Zack
 KD8KSN
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Deane
 Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 6:36 AM
 To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-27 Eclipse
 
 
 
 Please correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me that the AO-27 is 
 creeping further and farther down into the US before it goes into 
 eclipse. A lot of times at great elevation, with Alaska, Canada and 
 some of the US well inside the footprint.
 
 Of course everyone is asleep at this time, but I was wondering if this 
 will keep getting better and maybe some of the earlybirds would like 
 to try workin it like we do the 51 so early in the morning as we so often do?
 
 Thank's for any input,
 Kevin
 KF7MYK
 
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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 Eclipse

2011-04-06 Thread saguaroastro
Dan,

The horrible noise is the packet burst at the end of it's activation. It sends 
a packet burst of telemetry at the beginning and end of it's activation window 
which is typically 7 minutes. For most passes this means it will come on after 
it rises and shut down before it sets. I call it the 7 minute dash.

73 de Rick
K7TEJ 

 KF1BUZ kf1...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Just had that a0-27 pass, and made a contact, I could hear a lot of people, 
 so if its in the sun it works, 
Then it started to make a horrible noise

Dan

-Original Message-
From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf 
Of Zachary Beougher
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:15 PM
To: Kevin Deane; amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 Eclipse

If AO27 was on you would hear the carrier.  I honestly am not sure about AO27 
only working in the sun since whenever I work it it is in the sun, but I don’t 
think it is ever scheduled to be on during overnight passes anyhow.  Someone 
please correct me if I am wrong.  Here is the schedule: 
http://www.ao27.org/AO27/index.shtml

Zack
KD8KSN 

From: Kevin Deane
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:14 AM
To: Zachary Beougher
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] AO-27 Eclipse


Well I thought it only worked in the sunlight? I have tried to talk to myself 
on it at night time to no avail, so I have been watching it go into shadow 
wondering if it is working just before that, maybe I was doing something wrong, 
but I swear I have tried it several times.
 
Kevin

 
 From: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com
 To: summit...@live.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-27 Eclipse
 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 09:59:28 -0400
 
 Hi Kevin,
 
 AO27 is usually (if ever) on for morning passes. Did you mean AO51?
 
 73,
 
 Zack
 KD8KSN
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Deane
 Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 6:36 AM
 To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-27 Eclipse
 
 
 
 Please correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me that the AO-27 is 
 creeping further and farther down into the US before it goes into 
 eclipse. A lot of times at great elevation, with Alaska, Canada and 
 some of the US well inside the footprint.
 
 Of course everyone is asleep at this time, but I was wondering if this 
 will keep getting better and maybe some of the earlybirds would like 
 to try workin it like we do the 51 so early in the morning as we so often do?
 
 Thank's for any input,
 Kevin
 KF7MYK
 
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[amsat-bb] K7TEJ operation from this past weekend

2011-04-06 Thread saguaroastro
All,

This past weekend (Friday  Saturday to be exact) I was at a telescoping event 
about 100 miles west of my usual QTH in DM33vq. I incorrectly gave my grid as 
DM33eo as that is the usual location we observe from, but we had moved to a 
larger site about 1 1/2 miles east to accommodate a larger crowd. I didn’t; 
realize it till now that I was in DM33ln. I know DM33 isn't; exactly a rare 
grid, but some of you that I worked might actually care about these things, I 
know I'm pretty anal about stuff like that. Also the location  is in La Paz 
County, not Maricopa for county chasers. 

QSL's will go out later this week or early next.

Now for something totally different and I hope someone here can shed some light 
on a problem that developed with my Kenwood TH7-DA. 

My battery dies on the drive out and when I tried to turn the radio off, it 
started making a high pitched beeping that would not stop until I removed the 
battery. I put in my extra battery and the radio seemed fine , but I noticed 
that many sub functions we not working, for example, I have SO-67's uplink in 
memory that I saved with the tone, I tried to turn the tone off but couldn’t; 
access the menu item. I just got the same high pitched beep as before. Also not 
working are Switching from VFO to memory, Switching from memory name tag to 
frequency display, memory insert, among others. I can switch bands and sub 
bands, change power levels and open squelch and switch on  off Duplex. I'm 
thinking a reset to default settings may fix things, but I'd rather not if 
possible as it would mean programming the radio again and My cable does not 
work, so that'd be a manual thing I'd rather avoid.

Any ideas?

73 de Rick
K7TEJ

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[amsat-bb] a0-51 this afternooner

2011-04-06 Thread KF1BUZ
Wow, what can I say?

 Thank you for being up there, hahah got 3 qsl's east coast to west coast,
all on my HT.. 

Really love playing on the sats.


KF1BUZ dm09 Reno Nevada.

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[amsat-bb] AO-7 switch

2011-04-06 Thread Bob- W7LRD


to those interested-AO-7 switches mode at 2335Z  exactly.   Seems to increase 
in time very very slowly. 

73 Bob W7LRD 
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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 Eclipse

2011-04-06 Thread KM9U
I just downloaded and ran the AO-27 scheduler program and updated the 
epoch.txt and topr.txt files as instructed. I compared the text files with 
the ones currently on the AO-27 website and verified that they are correct. 
For some reason, the times generated by the program differ from the times on 
the AO-27 web site by 11 min 36 sec.
What am I doing wrong?

Chuck, KM9U

- Original Message - 
From: Jeremy Bomkamp wa113...@yahoo.com
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 17:51
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 Eclipse


AO-27 is on a timer and is usually only active on ascending passes about the 
time it crosses 30 degrees North latitude. There is a program that will 
predict when it is in analog repeater mode and it can be downloaded at 
http://sites.google.com/site/ao27satellitescheduler/
When you first run the program you need to update the files(TOPR and EPOCH) 
instructions are on the page, simple as pressing CTRL+U



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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 Eclipse

2011-04-06 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Hi Chuck!

 I just downloaded and ran the AO-27 scheduler program and updated the
 epoch.txt and topr.txt files as instructed. I compared the text files with
 the ones currently on the AO-27 website and verified that they are correct.
 For some reason, the times generated by the program differ from the times on
 the AO-27 web site by 11 min 36 sec.
 What am I doing wrong?

What you see in the program is OK.  The AO-27 web site is off.  It seems
to happen like that 2 to 4 weeks after the AO-27 schedule is updated.  Go
with what you see in the program.

You can also look at your tracking program and compare it to the output
from the AO-27 program and web site.  You'll probably see that the web
site shows the satellite turning on near the end of the pass, or after LOS
for you.

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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