[amsat-bb] Re: Future Possibilities For Automated Transfer Vehicle Technologies

2012-06-22 Thread GW1FKY
Hi all  thanks Bernard,
If you follow up the report in view of the costs and other  factors.  One 
of the options for an ATV future was for a use of  recovery of  debris and 
satellites.
Whilst the cost may be considerably high for such a development, I thought  
that it would be very interesting
and a positive step forward for study of failure and ageing factors of  on 
board equipment etc. (Batteries ??)
Also of course the objective of  clearing up and reducing hazards of  
possible impact or pollution.
Wonder on your thoughts on viewing this aspect as a effective application  
of use of  Space Budgets 
Regards.
Ken Eaton
GW1FKY
Amsat -UK
Amsat NA
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[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite choices on Field Day

2012-06-22 Thread Mark L. Hammond
Hi Philip,

Happy to hear you are getting active again!  Great. 

One small precaution, based on personal experience during Field Day---be 
careful about creating expectations that can't be delivered...in other words, 
using the handheld system to listen to an FM bird is pretty easy, but on Field 
Day, it might be impossible to get a signal into the bird for a real contact.  

When I've done demos on Field Day, I warn my observers that it's going to be 
quite busy, and while we certainly will hear the bird, it's unlikely with 5 
watts that I'll make a contact *today*.  But letting them hear the busy bird 
gets them interested, and has led to invitations to give a presentation/demo at 
a local club meeting---which CAN more easily lead to making some contacts 
(especially if you announce the event here on the BBS.  People will look for 
you specifically, in order to make your event successful).

If you're going to have both the TS-2000x and the little radio, you could have 
somebody else waving it around to listen, while you operate the transmitter.  
It's fun to have audience participation!

Not sure I'll be on the air on Field Day, due to work---but best wishes for a 
great day.

Mark N8MH 

At 11:03 PM 6/21/2012 -0400, Philip Jenkins wrote:
Thanks, Drew. I didn't realize AO-27's status, and I wasn't really looking
forward to getting up in the middle of the night anyway :-) (although SO-50
has an excellent pass around 330 am :-) )

I did play around with AO-27 and SO-50 most of the day Wednesday, but yeah,
I haven't really been active on the sats since a 1993 AO-13 DXpedition to
VP2M.

The reason I'm planning on using the HT and Arrow is to show them the
(nearly) minimum equipment that can be used to work a sat - that they don't
have to have a fancy radio (IC 910, IC-9100, TS-2000) and a big antenna
array to work the birds. (I do have switchable CP yagis on 2M and 440 at
home, with an az/el rotor, but transporting all that would be too much
logistically AND I thought it would be overkill and too intimidating for an
audience whom you're trying to attract into ham radio.) But yeah, I'd much
rather have full-duplex like I did on AO-13.

Philip

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner 
glasbren...@mindspring.com wrote:




 -
 I'm leaning towards AO-27 for listen only, as I know the bird will be jam
 packed with ops that weekend (although I do have a decent pass at 230 am
 local Sunday, and an even better one at 4 am) and actually trying to make
 a
 contact on SO-50, although I'm sure it will be busy too.

 Let me save you some sleep. AO-27 is only on for the ascending passes in
 the afternoon, and only for 7 minutes starting at about 30 degrees
 latitude. This means the first several minutes of the afternoon pass will
 be silent from your QTH, and all of the overnight passes.

   Definitely AO-7 for my linear choice, as I know the linear birds won't
 be
 as busy as the FM ones. FO-29 is my next choice.

 FO-29 and VO-52 will work better on FD, as AO-7 tends to get overloaded
 easily.

 
 I'm planning on using the Arrow antenna with my VX5-R for the FM birds,
 and
 I have an M-Squared 2M/440 (same boom, but offset 90 degrees) with an
 armstrong az/el control for the linear ones with my TS-2000X.

 Why give up full duplex and the TS-2000 to use the VX5 on FM? Half-duplex
 is a poor choice for satellite on normal days, let alone Field Day. If it's
 because of the birdie, use the TS2000 as the transmitter and the VX5 for
 receive only.

 Good luck. If you aren't a regular satellite user, try some passes outside
 of Field Day to improve your chances of success.

 73, Drew KO4MA



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[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite choices on Field Day

2012-06-22 Thread Philip Jenkins
Thanks, Mark. I've already made it clear to the other club members NOT to
expect a successful sat QSO.

I'm going to make sure that my audience knows that too. One hands-on
activity that I came up with (and I was already contemplating letting
someone else use the Arrow, maybe a repeat visitor who has already seen my
song and dance) - I have printed some copies of the grid-square map, and
I'm hoping the children especially mark their map during the passes as they
hear the grid-squares. I was astounded by how many grids I heard on just
ONE AO-27 pass on Wednesday!

There are very few hams in the area where we're doing FD, which is one
reason why we chose that location, to stir up interest.

Philip N4HF

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Mark L. Hammond marklhamm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Philip,

 Happy to hear you are getting active again!  Great.

 One small precaution, based on personal experience during Field Day---be
 careful about creating expectations that can't be delivered...in other
 words, using the handheld system to listen to an FM bird is pretty easy,
 but on Field Day, it might be impossible to get a signal into the bird for
 a real contact.

 When I've done demos on Field Day, I warn my observers that it's going to
 be quite busy, and while we certainly will hear the bird, it's unlikely
 with 5 watts that I'll make a contact *today*.  But letting them hear the
 busy bird gets them interested, and has led to invitations to give a
 presentation/demo at a local club meeting---which CAN more easily lead to
 making some contacts (especially if you announce the event here on the BBS.
  People will look for you specifically, in order to make your event
 successful).

 If you're going to have both the TS-2000x and the little radio, you could
 have somebody else waving it around to listen, while you operate the
 transmitter.  It's fun to have audience participation!

 Not sure I'll be on the air on Field Day, due to work---but best wishes
 for a great day.

 Mark N8MH

 At 11:03 PM 6/21/2012 -0400, Philip Jenkins wrote:
 Thanks, Drew. I didn't realize AO-27's status, and I wasn't really looking
 forward to getting up in the middle of the night anyway :-) (although
 SO-50
 has an excellent pass around 330 am :-) )
 
 I did play around with AO-27 and SO-50 most of the day Wednesday, but
 yeah,
 I haven't really been active on the sats since a 1993 AO-13 DXpedition to
 VP2M.
 
 The reason I'm planning on using the HT and Arrow is to show them the
 (nearly) minimum equipment that can be used to work a sat - that they
 don't
 have to have a fancy radio (IC 910, IC-9100, TS-2000) and a big antenna
 array to work the birds. (I do have switchable CP yagis on 2M and 440 at
 home, with an az/el rotor, but transporting all that would be too much
 logistically AND I thought it would be overkill and too intimidating for
 an
 audience whom you're trying to attract into ham radio.) But yeah, I'd much
 rather have full-duplex like I did on AO-13.
 
 Philip
 
 On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner 
 glasbren...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
  -
  I'm leaning towards AO-27 for listen only, as I know the bird will be
 jam
  packed with ops that weekend (although I do have a decent pass at 230
 am
  local Sunday, and an even better one at 4 am) and actually trying to
 make
  a
  contact on SO-50, although I'm sure it will be busy too.
 
  Let me save you some sleep. AO-27 is only on for the ascending passes in
  the afternoon, and only for 7 minutes starting at about 30 degrees
  latitude. This means the first several minutes of the afternoon pass
 will
  be silent from your QTH, and all of the overnight passes.
 
Definitely AO-7 for my linear choice, as I know the linear birds
 won't
  be
  as busy as the FM ones. FO-29 is my next choice.
 
  FO-29 and VO-52 will work better on FD, as AO-7 tends to get overloaded
  easily.
 
  
  I'm planning on using the Arrow antenna with my VX5-R for the FM birds,
  and
  I have an M-Squared 2M/440 (same boom, but offset 90 degrees) with an
  armstrong az/el control for the linear ones with my TS-2000X.
 
  Why give up full duplex and the TS-2000 to use the VX5 on FM?
 Half-duplex
  is a poor choice for satellite on normal days, let alone Field Day. If
 it's
  because of the birdie, use the TS2000 as the transmitter and the VX5 for
  receive only.
 
  Good luck. If you aren't a regular satellite user, try some passes
 outside
  of Field Day to improve your chances of success.
 
  73, Drew KO4MA
 
 
 
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[amsat-bb] Re: Future Possibilities For Automated Transfer VehicleTechnologies

2012-06-22 Thread Farrell Winder

Ken,
Great idea, how about putting AO-40 1st on the list?  Thanks,
Farrell Winder, W8ZCF Cincinnati, Ohio

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Hi all  thanks Bernard,
If you follow up the report in view of the costs and other  factors.  One
of the options for an ATV future was for a use of  recovery of  debris and
satellites.
Whilst the cost may be considerably high for such a development, I thought
that it would be very interesting
and a positive step forward for study of failure and ageing factors of  on
board equipment etc. (Batteries ??)
Also of course the objective of  clearing up and reducing hazards of
possible impact or pollution.
Wonder on your thoughts on viewing this aspect as a effective application
of use of  Space Budgets
Regards.
Ken Eaton
GW1FKY
Amsat -UK
Amsat NA
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[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite choices on Field Day

2012-06-22 Thread Gary Joe Mayfield
We have been able to do it with a handheld for the last 5 years.  But we may
have geography in our favor :-) 

THE FOLLOWING COMMENT IS FOR NEXT YEAR!

Has anyone considering re-examining the FM satellite rule?  I would like to
propose the following:

Contacts on the FM satellites can only be made with W1AW and K6KPH.  Those
stations could get on with solid signals and pass out contacts.  No other
contacts would count.  I believe more contacts would be made, and it would
be better to listen to as well.  We would have to get the word out early and
often.

Just My Thoughts,
Joe kk0sd




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From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Philip Jenkins
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:31 AM
To: Mark L. Hammond
Cc: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellite choices on Field Day

Thanks, Mark. I've already made it clear to the other club members NOT to
expect a successful sat QSO.

I'm going to make sure that my audience knows that too. One hands-on
activity that I came up with (and I was already contemplating letting
someone else use the Arrow, maybe a repeat visitor who has already seen my
song and dance) - I have printed some copies of the grid-square map, and
I'm hoping the children especially mark their map during the passes as they
hear the grid-squares. I was astounded by how many grids I heard on just
ONE AO-27 pass on Wednesday!

There are very few hams in the area where we're doing FD, which is one
reason why we chose that location, to stir up interest.

Philip N4HF

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Mark L. Hammond
marklhamm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Philip,

 Happy to hear you are getting active again!  Great.

 One small precaution, based on personal experience during Field Day---be
 careful about creating expectations that can't be delivered...in other
 words, using the handheld system to listen to an FM bird is pretty easy,
 but on Field Day, it might be impossible to get a signal into the bird for
 a real contact.

 When I've done demos on Field Day, I warn my observers that it's going to
 be quite busy, and while we certainly will hear the bird, it's unlikely
 with 5 watts that I'll make a contact *today*.  But letting them hear the
 busy bird gets them interested, and has led to invitations to give a
 presentation/demo at a local club meeting---which CAN more easily lead to
 making some contacts (especially if you announce the event here on the
BBS.
  People will look for you specifically, in order to make your event
 successful).

 If you're going to have both the TS-2000x and the little radio, you could
 have somebody else waving it around to listen, while you operate the
 transmitter.  It's fun to have audience participation!

 Not sure I'll be on the air on Field Day, due to work---but best wishes
 for a great day.

 Mark N8MH

 At 11:03 PM 6/21/2012 -0400, Philip Jenkins wrote:
 Thanks, Drew. I didn't realize AO-27's status, and I wasn't really
looking
 forward to getting up in the middle of the night anyway :-) (although
 SO-50
 has an excellent pass around 330 am :-) )
 
 I did play around with AO-27 and SO-50 most of the day Wednesday, but
 yeah,
 I haven't really been active on the sats since a 1993 AO-13 DXpedition to
 VP2M.
 
 The reason I'm planning on using the HT and Arrow is to show them the
 (nearly) minimum equipment that can be used to work a sat - that they
 don't
 have to have a fancy radio (IC 910, IC-9100, TS-2000) and a big antenna
 array to work the birds. (I do have switchable CP yagis on 2M and 440 at
 home, with an az/el rotor, but transporting all that would be too much
 logistically AND I thought it would be overkill and too intimidating for
 an
 audience whom you're trying to attract into ham radio.) But yeah, I'd
much
 rather have full-duplex like I did on AO-13.
 
 Philip
 
 On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner 
 glasbren...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
  -
  I'm leaning towards AO-27 for listen only, as I know the bird will be
 jam
  packed with ops that weekend (although I do have a decent pass at 230
 am
  local Sunday, and an even better one at 4 am) and actually trying to
 make
  a
  contact on SO-50, although I'm sure it will be busy too.
 
  Let me save you some sleep. AO-27 is only on for the ascending passes
in
  the afternoon, and only for 7 minutes starting at about 30 degrees
  latitude. This means the first several minutes of the afternoon pass
 will
  be silent from your QTH, and all of the overnight passes.
 
Definitely AO-7 for my linear choice, as I know the linear birds
 won't
  be
  as busy as the FM ones. FO-29 is my next choice.
 
  FO-29 and VO-52 will work better on FD, as AO-7 tends to get overloaded
  easily.
 
  
  I'm planning on using the Arrow antenna with my VX5-R for the FM
birds,
  and
  I have an M-Squared 2M/440 (same boom, but offset 90 degrees) with an
  armstrong az/el control for the linear ones with my TS-2000X.
 
  Why give up full duplex 

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite choices on Field Day

2012-06-22 Thread K5OE

Phillip,
You have already gotten really good advice from others on FD operation, but I 
will offer one nugget from my experience:  if you feel the pressure to make 
that one satellite contact for the club, here is my recommendation for the 
highest probability for success:
- pick an ascending pass of FO-29, preferably to your East (at AOS it will be 
mostly over the Atlantic Ocean)
- pick a frequency at least 5 kHz above the center's downlink with Doppler (at 
AOS this will be about 8 + 5 = 435.863 MHz)
- assuming you are not using PC-control, set your trasnmit 5 kHz below the 
uplink center and call CQ
- be ready for the pile-up from the dozen 4-call stations in FL who will all 
call you at the same time

You have about 60 seconds before the NE and mid-west get into the window... 
after that, just play the downlink audio for the audience.

73 es GL,
Jerry, K5OE
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[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite choices on Field Day

2012-06-22 Thread wa4hfn
Wont work because there would be a 1000 ops calling 1 station,and field day is 
about contacting many stations but on staellites only 1 contact is needed for 
300 points. Make the 1 contact and shut down your satellite station and let the 
rest of us have our 1 contact and shut down also.
 I hope the BIG GUN Satellite Stations will not use there amps to cut through 
the pile ups. I thing the satellite stations should not use any thing over 50 
watts max on FM or better yet only use 5 watts and a hand held. After all Field 
Day is about emergency comm. and not blasting everyone out 
 Thats my thoughts . See everyone at the same time on the birds  LOL
I will be operating W4BS in em55  for those that may still be trying to get 
there 5 in em55 award
73 Damon WA4HFN

- Original Message -
From: Gary \Joe\ Mayfield gary_mayfi...@hotmail.com
Cc: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 8:17:57 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellite choices on Field Day

We have been able to do it with a handheld for the last 5 years.  But we may
have geography in our favor :-) 

THE FOLLOWING COMMENT IS FOR NEXT YEAR!

Has anyone considering re-examining the FM satellite rule?  I would like to
propose the following:

Contacts on the FM satellites can only be made with W1AW and K6KPH.  Those
stations could get on with solid signals and pass out contacts.  No other
contacts would count.  I believe more contacts would be made, and it would
be better to listen to as well.  We would have to get the word out early and
often.

Just My Thoughts,
Joe kk0sd




-Original Message-
From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Philip Jenkins
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:31 AM
To: Mark L. Hammond
Cc: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellite choices on Field Day

Thanks, Mark. I've already made it clear to the other club members NOT to
expect a successful sat QSO.

I'm going to make sure that my audience knows that too. One hands-on
activity that I came up with (and I was already contemplating letting
someone else use the Arrow, maybe a repeat visitor who has already seen my
song and dance) - I have printed some copies of the grid-square map, and
I'm hoping the children especially mark their map during the passes as they
hear the grid-squares. I was astounded by how many grids I heard on just
ONE AO-27 pass on Wednesday!

There are very few hams in the area where we're doing FD, which is one
reason why we chose that location, to stir up interest.

Philip N4HF

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Mark L. Hammond
marklhamm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Philip,

 Happy to hear you are getting active again!  Great.

 One small precaution, based on personal experience during Field Day---be
 careful about creating expectations that can't be delivered...in other
 words, using the handheld system to listen to an FM bird is pretty easy,
 but on Field Day, it might be impossible to get a signal into the bird for
 a real contact.

 When I've done demos on Field Day, I warn my observers that it's going to
 be quite busy, and while we certainly will hear the bird, it's unlikely
 with 5 watts that I'll make a contact *today*.  But letting them hear the
 busy bird gets them interested, and has led to invitations to give a
 presentation/demo at a local club meeting---which CAN more easily lead to
 making some contacts (especially if you announce the event here on the
BBS.
  People will look for you specifically, in order to make your event
 successful).

 If you're going to have both the TS-2000x and the little radio, you could
 have somebody else waving it around to listen, while you operate the
 transmitter.  It's fun to have audience participation!

 Not sure I'll be on the air on Field Day, due to work---but best wishes
 for a great day.

 Mark N8MH

 At 11:03 PM 6/21/2012 -0400, Philip Jenkins wrote:
 Thanks, Drew. I didn't realize AO-27's status, and I wasn't really
looking
 forward to getting up in the middle of the night anyway :-) (although
 SO-50
 has an excellent pass around 330 am :-) )
 
 I did play around with AO-27 and SO-50 most of the day Wednesday, but
 yeah,
 I haven't really been active on the sats since a 1993 AO-13 DXpedition to
 VP2M.
 
 The reason I'm planning on using the HT and Arrow is to show them the
 (nearly) minimum equipment that can be used to work a sat - that they
 don't
 have to have a fancy radio (IC 910, IC-9100, TS-2000) and a big antenna
 array to work the birds. (I do have switchable CP yagis on 2M and 440 at
 home, with an az/el rotor, but transporting all that would be too much
 logistically AND I thought it would be overkill and too intimidating for
 an
 audience whom you're trying to attract into ham radio.) But yeah, I'd
much
 rather have full-duplex like I did on AO-13.
 
 Philip
 
 On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner 
 glasbren...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
  -
  I'm leaning towards AO-27 for listen only, as I know the bird will be
 

[amsat-bb] Lunar Mission ?

2012-06-22 Thread Trevor .
The company Excalibur Almaz based in the Isle of Man, British Isles, has 
announced an aim to fly a lunar mission.

The Lunar and Deep Space Mission Capability press release is at 
http://www.excaliburalmaz.com/0401_Press.html 

Financial Times newspaper article
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f5af9e2a-ba21-11e1-aa8d-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1yWvT6Pwm
 

73 Trevor M5AKA



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[amsat-bb] Field Day site-to-site texting

2012-06-22 Thread Bob Bruninga
Every FD site will usually have APRS on line.  Remember, you can contact any
other FD site in the world on your APRS channel. (144.39 in North America).

Just send them an APRS text message.

Of course, this assumes you know their callsign.  To facilitate learning who
else is on the air, send a CQ FD message to the APRS CQSERVER and your CQ
will go to every other CQ FD site on the planet.  This has nothing to do
with FD rules and points.  It is just a way to have fun and be able to
contact any FD site without knowing apriori their calling freq.

Just send an APRS message to CQSRVR and make the first two words of the
message be CQ FD  for example, CQ FD from Bob in Annapolis, MD.  These
do not count for points, but are a great way to have ham radio fun with
other sites.

This will log you onto the CQ FD message group and from then on, you will
get ALL OTHER such messages from all other such stations.  When you DO see
an incoming CQ FD message, now then you know their callsign and can MESSAGE
THEM DIRECTLY from then on.

To keep the load down, you can only send one CQ FD message once every 30
minutes, but you will remain logged on for up to 12 hours.  After no
activity, you will be dropped.

Oh, for more info about APRS and Field Day, see http://aprs.org/cqsrvr.html

Bob, WB4APR


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[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite choices on Field Day

2012-06-22 Thread N0JY

Hi All,

I am planning a similar operation with the Tri-County ARC (WC5C). There 
are a few of us who get on satellite and we are going to bring out all 
manner of antennas from Arrows to Lindenblads to small yagis to big 
yagis, and while having a reliable station with the bigger antennas 
and FT-736R we plan to let anyone and everyone try their radio be it an 
HT or an all band rig with the antennas we have or whatever they bring, 
to experience listening to any maybe making contact (no promises) 
through any of the satellites.  An opportunity to see what can be done 
with various levels of equipment/investment/skill and learn about how 
the different satellites/antennas work in various conditions.  A free 
for all but backed up with some more reliable Q for those who want to 
sit down and try the linear birds as well as making some FD points.  It 
should be crazy!  But I hope to give lots of people the opportunity to 
play rather than in the past, where many would just watch quietly as we 
operated and ask questions now and then. Many are shy, but given 
encouragement and a challenge I think they might like to see what they 
can learn and accomplish hands-on.


73,
Jerry
N0JY

On 6/22/2012 6:31 AM, Philip Jenkins wrote:

Thanks, Mark. I've already made it clear to the other club members NOT to
expect a successful sat QSO.

I'm going to make sure that my audience knows that too. One hands-on
activity that I came up with (and I was already contemplating letting
someone else use the Arrow, maybe a repeat visitor who has already seen my
song and dance) - I have printed some copies of the grid-square map, and
I'm hoping the children especially mark their map during the passes as they
hear the grid-squares. I was astounded by how many grids I heard on just
ONE AO-27 pass on Wednesday!

There are very few hams in the area where we're doing FD, which is one
reason why we chose that location, to stir up interest.

Philip N4HF

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Mark L. Hammond marklhamm...@gmail.comwrote:


Hi Philip,

Happy to hear you are getting active again!  Great.

One small precaution, based on personal experience during Field Day---be
careful about creating expectations that can't be delivered...in other
words, using the handheld system to listen to an FM bird is pretty easy,
but on Field Day, it might be impossible to get a signal into the bird for
a real contact.

When I've done demos on Field Day, I warn my observers that it's going to
be quite busy, and while we certainly will hear the bird, it's unlikely
with 5 watts that I'll make a contact *today*.  But letting them hear the
busy bird gets them interested, and has led to invitations to give a
presentation/demo at a local club meeting---which CAN more easily lead to
making some contacts (especially if you announce the event here on the BBS.
  People will look for you specifically, in order to make your event
successful).

If you're going to have both the TS-2000x and the little radio, you could
have somebody else waving it around to listen, while you operate the
transmitter.  It's fun to have audience participation!

Not sure I'll be on the air on Field Day, due to work---but best wishes
for a great day.

Mark N8MH




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[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite choices on Field Day

2012-06-22 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Hi Joe!

 We have been able to do it with a handheld for the last 5 years.  But we may
 have geography in our favor :-)

If I pick my battles (passes) right, I also benefit from geography here in the
southwest.  I won't even bother with any AO-27 passes to the east of me, and
will hope to sneak in a QSO on SO-50 before its footprint covers much of the
US.  I operate 1B/1-Op/Battery at 5W on HF and 6m as well as the birds,
so you can imagine the challenges in getting through without the benefit
of higher power.  Operating experience does play a big part in making the
QSOs, especially with the conditions we will hear this weekend.

On the SSB birds, I may try to work some eastern passes.  I was not as
successful on SSB last year compared to 2010.  The high-power stations
that monopolize the FM birds cripple the SSB transponders, unfortunately.
But that's part of the challenge, getting through in less-than-ideal
conditions

 THE FOLLOWING COMMENT IS FOR NEXT YEAR!

 Has anyone considering re-examining the FM satellite rule?  I would like to
 propose the following:

 Contacts on the FM satellites can only be made with W1AW and K6KPH.  Those
 stations could get on with solid signals and pass out contacts.  No other
 contacts would count.  I believe more contacts would be made, and it would
 be better to listen to as well.  We would have to get the word out early and
 often.

If you are going to limit stations to contacts with a very few stations on the
FM birds, that would put those satellites in a completely different class
compared to the SSB birds or other bands.  At that point, you might as
well exclude the FM birds like 3 HF bands (12m, 17m, 30m) are excluded
from Field Day and most other HF contests.  I'd rather not see that
happen, even with the chaotic conditions on many of those FM satellite
passes.  Again, that's part of the challenge.

During last year's Field Day, there was a very nice AO-51 pass over the
west coast late on Saturday afternoon.  Stations were able to make their
Field Day QSOs, and a couple were even looking to exchange grid
locators and not participating in Field Day!  Geography played a big
role in that pass, with not much of the footprint going east of the Rockies.
Good operating by all on that pass also contributed to that pass not
being crazy like others were.

I'll try to make my 1 QSO on AO-27 and SO-50 tomorrow.  If other
stations call me after I've logged my single QSO, I will attempt to
respond and get the other station a satellite QSO.  I never score
the additional FM satellite QSOs when I submit my reports to ARRL
and AMSAT, but the QSOs are listed so I have a complete log of
my Field Day effort in my reports.

I will be in the forest somewhere around Flagstaff AZ for Field Day,
probably in grid DM45.  I should be able to work some passes before
the 1800 UTC start of Field Day at the DM35/DM45 grid boundary for
those wanting log a QSO with either - or both - of those grids
(probably in the 1430-1730 UTC timeframe).  Keep an eye on APRS
at http://aprs.fi/wd9ewk-9 to get an idea of where I am for those
earlier passes, and updates will also be posted on Twitter using
@WD9EWK or at http://twitter.com/wd9ewk

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/

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[amsat-bb] Field Day

2012-06-22 Thread K4FEG
For Field Day, I will be looking to help out with contacts, Especially 
late at night, I chase grids so I am used to being up late at night on 
the lonely passes.


I plan to concentrate on the linear satellites but SO50 is flying over 
the US late at night so I will try it as well. those that are planning 
to try a satellite contact for the points drop me a private email and I 
will listen for you in the wee hours, I have already had several 
requests from some of the other night owls like myself, so let me know 
so I can be listening.


Just give me a general idea of which passes you are looking at I am sure 
I can work a few stations!


Good Luck everyone, have fun but most of all, BE SAFE LET'S NOT HAVE ANY 
ACCIDENTS THIS YEAR!


73 to All,
Frank; K4FEG em55
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[amsat-bb] Results of HORYU-2 telemetry Receiving Competition

2012-06-22 Thread Trevor .
See http://www.uk.amsat.org/?p=8609 

73 Trevor M5AKA




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[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite choices on Field Day

2012-06-22 Thread jamesduffey
Don't forget that a good way of coping with the crowds on the linear birds is 
to use CW. These aren't just SSB birds, you know, and you may get some of the 
CW ops interested in satellite operation. I think that the linear birds are so 
much more useful for FD than the FM birds that I encourage everyone to try 
them. It may take a pass or two to learn to cope with tuning and doppler, but 
you will find the ease at making multiple contacts worth it. Look for W5UR. - 
KK6MC 



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[amsat-bb] NuSTAR's Mast Deployed

2012-06-22 Thread B J
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/nustar/news/nustar20120621.html

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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[amsat-bb] Nova for windows on Winders7

2012-06-22 Thread Jim Sanford

All:
Finally installed Nova on the new laptop.  (Yeah, for FD)
Updating keps doesn't work -- complains about some missing file.
Updating time from internet doesnl't work.  Just tries and tries

Any suggestions on getting it to work on Win7?
Thanks  73,
jim
wb4...@amsat.org

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[amsat-bb] Field Day

2012-06-22 Thread Hector, CO6CBF
Hello All

 

I will be operating on the FD using my own call sign and 1E DX

 

I plan to concentrate on the linear satellites and  I'll try to make my 1
QSO on AO-27, SO-50 and ISS digipeater.  I will be able also to operate on
FO-29 and SO-50 during the late night  and  early morning passes. I think
that It is a great opportunity to encourage the amateur radio by satellites
in my Radio Club, So I have invited a lot satellite enthusiasts to my home
to listen the satellite operation. It is my first Field Day on the linear
birds and I know that  it will be very fun as It is said that during Field
Day the transponders come alive like 20 meters on a weekend.

 

If someone want to try a Sat contact with me only drop me a private email
and I will be looking for you.

 

73!

 

Hector, CO6CBF

EL92sd

 

 

 

 


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[amsat-bb] KB1RVT/P QSOs

2012-06-22 Thread Daniel Nick Kucij
Thanks for all the QSOs during my recent portable ops. from FN43  
(Northwood, NH), FN54 (Mt. Desert Is., ME), FN64 (Campobello Is./VE9,  
New Brunswick), and FN44 (Gorham, NH). If you need a confirmation (QSL  
+/or LoTW) just send me the details by email. I'll verify and confirm  
by the method(s) you prefer. QSLs/SASEs are not necessary. The LoTW  
entries from USA locations will be under, KB1RVT. I still need to  
figure out how to get my KB1RVT/VE9 call set up on LoTW, so please  
bear with me.


73, Nick, KB1RVT
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[amsat-bb] Re: Nova for windows on Winders7

2012-06-22 Thread Rodney Waln
hi, i run nova in compat mode an it seem to like it,
runs and down loads keps..ect
Rodney
kc0zhf
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[amsat-bb] Re: Nova for windows on Winders7

2012-06-22 Thread Bob Martinson
Nova ver 2.2B has been working fine for me for over 2 years under Win 7.

73,
Bob, K1REM


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Subject: [amsat-bb] Nova for windows on Winders7

All:
Finally installed Nova on the new laptop.  (Yeah, for FD) Updating keps
doesn't work -- complains about some missing file.
Updating time from internet doesnl't work.  Just tries and tries

Any suggestions on getting it to work on Win7?
Thanks  73,
jim
wb4...@amsat.org

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[amsat-bb] VO-52 in Mode J?

2012-06-22 Thread Keith Baker

Is it me, my keps or my equipmentor did I hear VO-52 in Mode J this (Friday 
AM) in a pass over the USA?
73,
Keith BakerKB1SF / VA3KSF 
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