[amsat-bb] Re: AO-73 now on oscar.dcarr.org

2013-12-01 Thread Mark L. Hammond
Thank you, David!!  I've been wishing for this...

73,

Mark N8MH 

At 12:06 AM 12/1/2013 -0600, David Carr wrote:

I have been out of town for several days, but AO-73 should now be active on 
oscar.dcarr.org.  Please enjoy!

73s,
David Carr
KD5QGR
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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-73/FUNcube-1 videos, observations

2013-12-01 Thread Mark L. Hammond
Hi Patrick,

Great sharing of your experiences---thanks!  Nice to have AO-73 operations 
futher characterized.

Regarding the Funcube Dongle Pro Plus (FCDP+)---you should enjoy the experience 
of learning how to use it!  It's such a neat receiver.

Some quick thoughts/pointers/questions:

Are you planning to capture telemetry and work the transponder simultaneously 
during evening passes?  It might work, depending on your antenna system, 
especially if you can get buy with only 500mW uplink.  I'll be interested in 
your experiences with this...

There is one thing to remember--you'll need two audio streams decoding at the 
same time.  SDR-Radio V2.1 will do this, with VFO A and VFO B.   They each 
have separate audio out selections, so you can pipe the telemetry to something 
like VB Audio Virtual Cable into the Dashboard, and the other VFO and audio 
stream to your laptop speakers or headphone jack.  SDR-Radio V2.1 also has 
built in satellite tracking for doppler correction, and you can record the pass 
at the same time!


On the other handif you don't want to try to do telemetry and the 
transponder simultaneously, you have some more options...

SatPC32 has great DDE support, and you can use that with either HDSDR or 
SDRSharp to tune your FCDP+ as a separate receiver.  It works great, and it's 
pretty easy to do, if you want your receiver following the Doppler/frequency 
from SatPC32.  

Now, if you want to use your FCDP+ as a receiver AND be able to click on a 
frequency and have the transmit match it---that's another trickier setup 
involving HDSDR, SatPC32, and virtual comports.  It works and is slick, but 
it's not for the faint of heart.  You can read about that setup here:  
http://www.tomdoyle.org/FUNcube-SatPC32/FUNcube-SatPC32.html
I did similar to that writeup by Tom, but found I could do 56k serial port 
speeds just fine.

Have fun!

73,




So, lots of options..




At 12:46 AM 12/1/2013 -0800, Patrick STODDARD \(WD9EWK/VA7EWK\) wrote:
Hi!

Over the past few nights, I've been working the new AO-73 
satellite from my back yard.  Most of the time, I have been
using my normal portable all-mode satellite station - two 
Yaesu FT-817NDs, Elk handheld 2m/70cm log periodic 
antenna. Last night, I replaced one of the FT-817NDs with
a Kenwood TH-F6A - using its all-mode receiver to copy the
downlink.  Tonight, I used an Icom IC-R20 receiver for the 
downlink.  I have used these radios in the past on other 
satellites, and for some hamfest demonstrations on VO-52
I have used the FT-817ND/TH-F6A combination.  I have 
made a series of videos (satellite audio combined with 
slideshows) from several AO-73 passes I've worked this 
week, and those are available at:

http://www.youtube.com/va7ewk

One of the AO-73 videos I recorded contains audio from two
passes, and is about twice as long as the others which have
audio from a single pass.  

After working these passes, I am convinced that this new 
satellite performs as well as VO-52, for both its uplink and 
downlink.  This is a very good thing!  AO-73 hears very well, 
as long as I'm careful to match the polarization of the satellite's
antennas.  The downlink is strong enough to allow me to use
any of these radios as the receiver on higher passes.  For 
lower passes, I would probably use my second FT-817ND for 
the downlink receiver.  It is good to know that, at least on the 
higher passes, there are lots of options for a downlink receiver.
On the same higher passes, I know that I can cut my power
down from 5W to 1W and even 500mW.  High power is not 
necessary to be heard through the transponder.  

Next project for me with this satellite: using a FUNcube Dongle
Pro+ that I have had for a few months as the downlink receiver,
for both the transponder and telemetry, while working the 
transponder with an FT-817ND as my transmit radio.  I reinstalled 
HDSDR and its ExtIO DLL for the Pro+ dongle on my 64-bit 
Windows 7 laptop, and it is working well.  I have downloaded the 
FUNcube-1 dashboard software, and need to get that installed.  
I also have an old netbook with Linux on it, and am curious to 
see how the dongle works with that operating system.  I am 
hoping to be able to use the dongle and a laptop as the downlink
receiver, without being wiped out by the 5W signals from an 
FT-817ND.  

If this is successful, I may have a new combination for my all-
mode satellite station I can use for upcoming demonstrations.
Using the dongle and dashboard software during daytime AO-73
passes at hamfests would be something different, and a great
thing to show off to the hamfest crowds.  

Thanks, again, to all who worked on getting this satellite built
and launched.  Even with the transponder on only for the nighttime
passes, it has been fun to be on a new satellite so soon after
its launch.  Time for bed...  73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/


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[amsat-bb] Any k3 users?

2013-12-01 Thread Lawn, Richard
I've had some frustrations lately with my current satellite stations and am 
looking for alternatives, but they must offer panadapter options. I was looking 
at the k3 since I have a kx3 and found it to be an excellent radio. But the 
question then becomes what tracking software supports the elecraft radios. Let 
me know of you are using any elecraft products.

Rick
W2JAZ

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[amsat-bb] Re: Object IDs

2013-12-01 Thread Nico Janssen

All,

An update on the satellite IDs.

Still no IDs are available for the satellites launched from the ISS
(except TechEdSat 3P) and the Minotaur.

Several IDs have been published for the objects from the Dnepr launch
but many need to be confirmed. Still not all TLEs are released.

AMSAT-OSCAR 73, ZACube 1 and HiNCube were launched from the same ISIPOD.
As they initially were close together, the JSpOC decided to release only
one TLE set for this cluster under object number 39417 (2013-066B). Now
the distances between these satellites are slowly increasing. So the
question is which satellite is object 39417.
Detailed doppler measurements show that ZACube 1 is now about 25 s early
compared to the TLE for object 39417, while OSCAR 73 is about 11 s
early. This seems to indicate that object 39417 is actually HiNCube.
Hopefully TLEs for OSCAR 73 and ZACube 1 will be published soon.

73,
Nico PA0DLO


On 2013-11-23 11:32, Nico Janssen wrote:

All,

An overview of the presently known IDs for the satellites that have
been launched recently.

ISS JSSOD Cubesat launches
2013-11-19 12:18 UTC
39412 1998-067DA  Pico Dragon ?
39413 1998-067DB  ArduSat 1 ?
39414 1998-067DC  ArduSat X ?
To be confirmed when the objects have more separation.
2013-11-20 07:58 UTC
39415 1998-067DD  TechEdSat 3P

Minotaur 1, Wallops Flight Facility
2013-11-20 01:15 UTC
ORS3  ELaNa 4: 29 satellites
So far only 4 TLEs published. No IDs yet but probably:
39380 2013-064A  STPSat 3

Dnepr, Yasny
2013-11-21 07:10:11 UTC
32 satellites
19 TLEs published
39417 2013-066B  FUNcube 1
39427 2013-066M  Triton 1
39428 2013-066N  Delfi-n3Xt

Note that all designations may change later on.

73,
Nico PA0DLO


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[amsat-bb] New Award from the Star Comm Group

2013-12-01 Thread wa4hfn
The Star Comm Group has a new satellite award called Got Grids?   that will be 
effective 1 Jan 2014. The award can be seen along with the rules at
  http://www.starcommgroup.org/gotgrids.html
 
 The rules for the 5in EM55 award have been changed to make it a little easier 
also. 
  http://www.starcommgroup.org/5in55.html
This award is open to the world with the new rules. Example  you can work 5 
stations that have the award anywhere, without working anyone in EM55
 or any combination, say 2 stations in em55 and 3 stations that have the award 
from any other state or country.

A 3rd award is in the planning stages , GRID MASTERS  rules and design to come 
soon.

These awards are free. Donations to Amsat are welcomed. Please note on your 
check  STAR Comm Group Award.

We hope to increase activity on the birds.
 
Comments or questions  contact
 wa4...@comcast.netDamon
 wa4...@comcast.netRick
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[amsat-bb] Re: Object IDs

2013-12-01 Thread PE0SAT | Amateur Radio

Hi Nico,

Thanks for the update, this would explain why the doppler correction 
for

AO-73 isn't working with the current object-id.

73 Jan PE0SAT

On 01-12-2013 16:25, Nico Janssen wrote:

All,

An update on the satellite IDs.

Still no IDs are available for the satellites launched from the ISS
(except TechEdSat 3P) and the Minotaur.

Several IDs have been published for the objects from the Dnepr launch
but many need to be confirmed. Still not all TLEs are released.

AMSAT-OSCAR 73, ZACube 1 and HiNCube were launched from the same 
ISIPOD.
As they initially were close together, the JSpOC decided to release 
only
one TLE set for this cluster under object number 39417 (2013-066B). 
Now

the distances between these satellites are slowly increasing. So the
question is which satellite is object 39417.
Detailed doppler measurements show that ZACube 1 is now about 25 s 
early

compared to the TLE for object 39417, while OSCAR 73 is about 11 s
early. This seems to indicate that object 39417 is actually HiNCube.
Hopefully TLEs for OSCAR 73 and ZACube 1 will be published soon.

73,
Nico PA0DLO


On 2013-11-23 11:32, Nico Janssen wrote:

All,

An overview of the presently known IDs for the satellites that have
been launched recently.

ISS JSSOD Cubesat launches
2013-11-19 12:18 UTC
39412 1998-067DA  Pico Dragon ?
39413 1998-067DB  ArduSat 1 ?
39414 1998-067DC  ArduSat X ?
To be confirmed when the objects have more separation.
2013-11-20 07:58 UTC
39415 1998-067DD  TechEdSat 3P

Minotaur 1, Wallops Flight Facility
2013-11-20 01:15 UTC
ORS3  ELaNa 4: 29 satellites
So far only 4 TLEs published. No IDs yet but probably:
39380 2013-064A  STPSat 3

Dnepr, Yasny
2013-11-21 07:10:11 UTC
32 satellites
19 TLEs published
39417 2013-066B  FUNcube 1
39427 2013-066M  Triton 1
39428 2013-066N  Delfi-n3Xt

Note that all designations may change later on.

73,
Nico PA0DLO


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[amsat-bb] Video: Commanding the WREN SSTV PocketQube

2013-12-01 Thread M5AKA
Video: Commanding the WREN SSTV PocketQube
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/12/01/video-commanding-the-wren-sstv-pocketqube/

FUNcube-1 Update Nov 30 / Dec 1
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/11/30/funcube-1-update-november-30/

TshepisoSat – You can help recording telemetry data
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/11/30/tshepisosat-you-can-help-recording-telemetry-data/

PicoDragon team ask for reports
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/11/29/picodragon-team-ask-for-reports/

Firefly CubeSat Mission to Study Lightning
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/11/29/firefly-cubesat-mission-to-study-lightning/


73 Trevor
 M5AKA
AMSAT-UK website http://amsat-uk.org/
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/AMSAT-UK/208113275898396
Twitter https://twitter.com/AMSAT_UK

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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-73/FUNcube-1 videos, observations

2013-12-01 Thread Hector, CO6CBF
Hello Patrick and Mark

I already have experimented with SDR - Radio Console V2.1 and the FCD Pro+
to capture telemetry and work the transponder simultaneously. Despite, the
low power of telemetry signal during evening passes, it works wonderful!

My ThinkPad laptop `s CPU is not able to run both VFOs in the SDR - Radio
Console, plus the Dashboard simultaneously. So, I record the raw IQ data
while I am operating on the transponder and after the pass, I playback the
recording and pipe the telemetry audio to Virtual Cable into the Dashboard.

I have made some tests with different operating systems (Linux and Windows),
and it looks like the SDR - Radio Console needs a least a 2.2 GHz Pentium
CPU to run the basic functions with the FUNcube Dongles.

Patrick, as for my experience, telemetry reception is a very interesting
thing for the crowds. During the first AO-73 orbit over my country, I made
an AO-73 demo at my University and everybody was fascinated. It is really
amazing get live measurements from the satellite and notice the variations
depending the live satellite environment.

I am very confident that you will have a great success in your AO-73 demos.

73!
Hector, CO6CBF

-Mensaje original-
De: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] En nombre
de Mark L. Hammond
Enviado el: domingo, 01 de diciembre de 2013 9:13
Para: amsat...@wd9ewk.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org
Asunto: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-73/FUNcube-1 videos, observations

Hi Patrick,

Great sharing of your experiences---thanks!  Nice to have AO-73 operations
futher characterized.

Regarding the Funcube Dongle Pro Plus (FCDP+)---you should enjoy the
experience of learning how to use it!  It's such a neat receiver.

Some quick thoughts/pointers/questions:

Are you planning to capture telemetry and work the transponder
simultaneously during evening passes?  It might work, depending on your
antenna system, especially if you can get buy with only 500mW uplink.  I'll
be interested in your experiences with this...

There is one thing to remember--you'll need two audio streams decoding at
the same time.  SDR-Radio V2.1 will do this, with VFO A and VFO B.
They each have separate audio out selections, so you can pipe the telemetry
to something like VB Audio Virtual Cable into the Dashboard, and the other
VFO and audio stream to your laptop speakers or headphone jack.  SDR-Radio
V2.1 also has built in satellite tracking for doppler correction, and you
can record the pass at the same time!


On the other handif you don't want to try to do telemetry and the
transponder simultaneously, you have some more options...

SatPC32 has great DDE support, and you can use that with either HDSDR or
SDRSharp to tune your FCDP+ as a separate receiver.  It works great, and
it's pretty easy to do, if you want your receiver following the
Doppler/frequency from SatPC32.  

Now, if you want to use your FCDP+ as a receiver AND be able to click on a
frequency and have the transmit match it---that's another trickier setup
involving HDSDR, SatPC32, and virtual comports.  It works and is slick, but
it's not for the faint of heart.  You can read about that setup here:
http://www.tomdoyle.org/FUNcube-SatPC32/FUNcube-SatPC32.html
I did similar to that writeup by Tom, but found I could do 56k serial port
speeds just fine.

Have fun!

73,




So, lots of options..




At 12:46 AM 12/1/2013 -0800, Patrick STODDARD \(WD9EWK/VA7EWK\) wrote:
Hi!

Over the past few nights, I've been working the new AO-73 
satellite from my back yard.  Most of the time, I have been
using my normal portable all-mode satellite station - two 
Yaesu FT-817NDs, Elk handheld 2m/70cm log periodic 
antenna. Last night, I replaced one of the FT-817NDs with
a Kenwood TH-F6A - using its all-mode receiver to copy the
downlink.  Tonight, I used an Icom IC-R20 receiver for the 
downlink.  I have used these radios in the past on other 
satellites, and for some hamfest demonstrations on VO-52
I have used the FT-817ND/TH-F6A combination.  I have 
made a series of videos (satellite audio combined with 
slideshows) from several AO-73 passes I've worked this 
week, and those are available at:

http://www.youtube.com/va7ewk

One of the AO-73 videos I recorded contains audio from two
passes, and is about twice as long as the others which have
audio from a single pass.  

After working these passes, I am convinced that this new 
satellite performs as well as VO-52, for both its uplink and 
downlink.  This is a very good thing!  AO-73 hears very well, 
as long as I'm careful to match the polarization of the satellite's
antennas.  The downlink is strong enough to allow me to use
any of these radios as the receiver on higher passes.  For 
lower passes, I would probably use my second FT-817ND for 
the downlink receiver.  It is good to know that, at least on the 
higher passes, there are lots of options for a downlink receiver.
On the same higher passes, I know that I can cut my power
down from 5W to 1W and even 

[amsat-bb] FW: SATPC32 AO73 question

2013-12-01 Thread Ted
Any help appreciated

73, Ted

-Original Message-
From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Ted
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 2:23 PM
To: 'AMSAT-BB'
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32  AO73 question

Hi all,

 

In spite of my usual ineptness with this program, I have managed to have it
talking to my FT-847, downloaded the keps for AO73 and appear to be tracking
it!!

 

However, I can't seem to get the radio to hold the up/dn frequencies in the
proper VFO's. I start out with the uplink showing in VFOA, but after a min
or so the frequencies swap and I have to use the ab button to get them
back.

 

Am I missing a setting?

 

Any help appreciated

 

And Happy Thanksgiving to all

 

73, Ted

K7TRK

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[amsat-bb] Re: FW: SATPC32 AO73 question

2013-12-01 Thread Alan
Ted,

Some questions. 
 
Does this problem only happen on AO-73, or all of them?  
In the Radio Setup, do you have Satellite Mode (Satelliten Modus) checked?
Is the SAT mode light on under CAT control?
Do you have the FT-847 TRACK mode selected?  If so, turn it off as in conflicts 
with the CAT control.

Are you using a USB dongle for a serial port?  What is the CAT port delay?

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA



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From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org 
[mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ted
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 12:44 PM
To: 'AMSAT-BB'
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: SATPC32  AO73 question

Any help appreciated

73, Ted

-Original Message-
From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Ted
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 2:23 PM
To: 'AMSAT-BB'
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32  AO73 question

Hi all,

 

In spite of my usual ineptness with this program, I have 
managed to have it
talking to my FT-847, downloaded the keps for AO73 and appear 
to be tracking
it!!

 

However, I can't seem to get the radio to hold the up/dn 
frequencies in the
proper VFO's. I start out with the uplink showing in VFOA, but 
after a min
or so the frequencies swap and I have to use the ab button 
to get them
back.

 

Am I missing a setting?

 

Any help appreciated

 

And Happy Thanksgiving to all

 

73, Ted

K7TRK

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[amsat-bb] Little help for Trailblazer and DragonSat

2013-12-01 Thread Craig Kief
Hello folks,
I am a little new at this so please have patience with ignorance.  Jin and I
launched two CubeSats a week or so ago.  The first is Trailblazer (mine) and
the second is DragonSat (Jins).  Trailblazer is from the Configurable Space
Research at the University of New Mexico (KE5VSH) and DragonSat is Drexel
University.   Our problem is that we haven’t heard from our satellites yet. 
There could be a variety of different reasons.  First, the satellite didn’t
survive delivery.  Second, our antennas didn’t deploy or third, we have poor
ground stations.  As you can imagine, I am hoping for the third.  I can
pasting the TLE which is openly available on space-track and celestetrack in
this email.   It is very close (I believe) to our birds.   If you have a
chance, could you please keep your ears open in case you might hear us. 
Please email any packets for Trailblazer to myself here
at craig.k...@cosmiac.org and for DragonSat to Jin Kang at k...@usna.edu.
 
Thanks again most sincerely,
Craig
 
 
Trailblazer 437.425MHz, AX.25, 9,600  (there is another satellite with the
same tx freq as mine there as well).
On my packets, if you see C0 00 A8 84…. You will provide me with a wonderful
gift.  I beacon every 50 seconds
 
DragonSat 145.870MHz, AX.25, 9,600. Beacons every 30 seconds.
 
Trailblazer Maybe
1 39382U 13064C   13325.87382098  .00041511  0-0  18318-2 0    39
2 39382  40.5103 239.5017 0004316 318.4599  41.5592 15.20995117   275
 



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[amsat-bb] AMSAT assigned Booth #62 - Atlantic City - August 28-29th

2013-12-01 Thread Thomas Doyle
A well deserved thanks to John, David and James.

http://www.tomdoyle.org/AtlanticCity-2.jpg

http://www.tomdoyle.org/AtlanticCity-1.jpg

W9KE Tom Doyle
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[amsat-bb] AO 73 Program problem

2013-12-01 Thread Rich/wa4bue

We followed the instructions to enter into SATPC.

We entered evert thing required and in DIVERSE Group we have AO 73.

The Down Link seems to be okay, but the uplink frequency is incorrect and 
shows FM mode!


We rechecked our inputs.

What happened?

God Bless

Rich
W4BUE 


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[amsat-bb] Use of Elecraft K3 or KX3 with satellite sw

2013-12-01 Thread Edward R Cole
I very rarely post anything to this reflector, but I have a question 
that maybe someone has already has done and has answers.


Shortly Elecraft will be offering a 2m module for its popular new SDR 
radio, the KX3.  This will provide 2m multi-mode operation using this 
nice little HF/6m radio.


Some years ago I sold my old satellite radios (FT-847  FT-817) so am 
looking into a two radio configuration for cross-band duplex 
satellite operation.  I have a K3 with 435-437 transmit capability 
using a Down East Microwave transverter and would be able to receive 
on 145 using the new KX3-2M combo.  (I also still have my s-band 
downconverter and L-band up converter for if/when these bands are activated).


What is unknown is if there is any sw support of the Elecraft radios 
on any satellite tracking sw? I am primarily interested in SSB thru 
transponders so frequency tracking under sw control would be 
nice.  I have both NOVA and SatPC32.  I have a tracking interface 
to control antenna tracking using a B5400 Yaesu az-el rotator.  Both 
these radios have computer control ports.



73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
dubus...@gmail.com
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[amsat-bb] Re: AO 73 Program problem

2013-12-01 Thread Stefan Wagener
Hi Rich,

please cheek your doppler.sqf file and the entries in there under AO-73.
SatPC32 will use/display whatever is written in there. Sometimes it is a
messed up entry, wrong comma etc. The format is very specific and important.

Hope that helps,

Merry Christmas to you.

Stefan, VE4NSA


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Rich/wa4bue richard.s...@verizon.netwrote:

 We followed the instructions to enter into SATPC.

 We entered evert thing required and in DIVERSE Group we have AO 73.

 The Down Link seems to be okay, but the uplink frequency is incorrect and
 shows FM mode!

 We rechecked our inputs.

 What happened?

 God Bless

 Rich
 W4BUE
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[amsat-bb] Re: FW: SATPC32 AO73 question

2013-12-01 Thread Ted
Thanks Alan,

All of those items are as they should be. I did end up pushing the vfo/m
button and something changed. The freqs are where they should be and
holding. Radio and program are displaying the same numbers

Question on a setting: under Mode, 'uplink+downlink' checked and 'doppler
shift' checked...is that ok?

Thanks again

73, Ted

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From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 11:25 AM
To: 'AMSAT-BB'
Cc: CC
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FW: SATPC32  AO73 question

Ted,

Some questions. 
 
Does this problem only happen on AO-73, or all of them?  
In the Radio Setup, do you have Satellite Mode (Satelliten Modus) checked?
Is the SAT mode light on under CAT control?
Do you have the FT-847 TRACK mode selected?  If so, turn it off as in
conflicts with the CAT control.

Are you using a USB dongle for a serial port?  What is the CAT port delay?

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA



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Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 12:44 PM
To: 'AMSAT-BB'
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: SATPC32  AO73 question  Any help appreciated 
73, Ted  -Original Message-
From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Ted
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 2:23 PM
To: 'AMSAT-BB'
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32  AO73 question  Hi all,In spite of
my usual ineptness with this program, I have managed to have it talking to
my FT-847, downloaded the keps for AO73 and appear to be tracking it!!



However, I can't seem to get the radio to hold the up/dn frequencies in
the proper VFO's. I start out with the uplink showing in VFOA, but after a
min or so the frequencies swap and I have to use the ab button to get
them back.



Am I missing a setting?



Any help appreciated



And Happy Thanksgiving to all



73, Ted

K7TRK

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[amsat-bb] Re: AO 73 Program problem

2013-12-01 Thread Alan
Rich,

Rig?

What is the uplink frequency, approximately, and does it Doppler tune during a 
pass?

Actual DOPPLER.SQF information?  Cut and paste!

Using AMSATNAMES.TXT?  Information.

Never hurts for an outsider to look over your work.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


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From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org 
[mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Rich/wa4bue
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 3:36 PM
To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO 73 Program problem

We followed the instructions to enter into SATPC.

We entered evert thing required and in DIVERSE Group we have AO 73.

The Down Link seems to be okay, but the uplink frequency is 
incorrect and 
shows FM mode!

We rechecked our inputs.

What happened?

God Bless

Rich
W4BUE 

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[amsat-bb] Re: AO 73 Program problem

2013-12-01 Thread Rich/wa4bue

Downlink freq:  145.93350 and yes it is Doppler controlled.

We are going to check our inputs again tomorrow
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From: Alan wa4...@gmail.com

To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org
Cc: CC apbid...@united.net
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 5:10 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO 73 Program problem



Rich,

Rig?

What is the uplink frequency, approximately, and does it Doppler tune 
during a pass?


Actual DOPPLER.SQF information?  Cut and paste!

Using AMSATNAMES.TXT?  Information.

Never hurts for an outsider to look over your work.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


-Original Message-
From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org
[mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Rich/wa4bue
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 3:36 PM
To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO 73 Program problem

We followed the instructions to enter into SATPC.

We entered evert thing required and in DIVERSE Group we have AO 73.

The Down Link seems to be okay, but the uplink frequency is
incorrect and
shows FM mode!

We rechecked our inputs.

What happened?

God Bless

Rich
W4BUE

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[amsat-bb] Re: Use of Elecraft K3 or KX3 with satellite sw

2013-12-01 Thread Stefan Wagener
Hi Ed,



Very good question and an important one!



With the more and more frequent use of “alternate” radios for satellite
work, software support is important. In general, and others please correct
me, the primary satellite programs like SatPC32, Orbitron, MacDoppler etc
have provide support for the classical satellite radios like FT-847,
TS-2000, IC-910 and respective older models, but not for any SDR based
radios unless they support an existing command (CAT) format like the
Flexradios work with the TS-2000 command set.



Now, having said that, programs like HamRadioDeluxe have a satellite
function (doppler control) and support a much larger set of radios. Also,
the version 2 SDR software from Simon Brown supports satellites. It is
important to investigate the radio models they support and/or emulate to
see if your specific set-up is covered. I assume the more SDR radios and
specifically VHF/UHF radios like the BladeRF and Etus Research become
popular and software supported, the more the current satellite program
developers (if interested) will add functionality. The future looks bright
for future SDR full duplex VHF/UHF radios. We are just not there yet J and
I would guess they are not coming from the big three (Icom. Yaesu or
Kenwood).



Hope this helps a little.


73, Stefan VE4NSA


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote:

 I very rarely post anything to this reflector, but I have a question that
 maybe someone has already has done and has answers.

 Shortly Elecraft will be offering a 2m module for its popular new SDR
 radio, the KX3.  This will provide 2m multi-mode operation using this nice
 little HF/6m radio.

 Some years ago I sold my old satellite radios (FT-847  FT-817) so am
 looking into a two radio configuration for cross-band duplex satellite
 operation.  I have a K3 with 435-437 transmit capability using a Down East
 Microwave transverter and would be able to receive on 145 using the new
 KX3-2M combo.  (I also still have my s-band downconverter and L-band up
 converter for if/when these bands are activated).

 What is unknown is if there is any sw support of the Elecraft radios on
 any satellite tracking sw? I am primarily interested in SSB thru
 transponders so frequency tracking under sw control would be nice.  I
 have both NOVA and SatPC32.  I have a tracking interface to control antenna
 tracking using a B5400 Yaesu az-el rotator.  Both these radios have
 computer control ports.


 73, Ed - KL7UW
 http://www.kl7uw.com
 dubus...@gmail.com
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[amsat-bb] Re: Use of Elecraft K3 or KX3 with satellite sw

2013-12-01 Thread Alan
Ed,

Do Elecraft rigs have their own unique CAT command set, or do them use the same 
basic set as Kenwood,
Yaesu, or Icom?  If so, you MAY be able to use them with SatPC32.  For 
instance, my Flex VU-5K uses
the Kenwood set, and behaves much like a TS-2000.  SatPC32 supports some 
Kenwood rigs Other in the
way you are discussing.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA
 

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From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org 
[mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Edward R Cole
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 3:55 PM
To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Use of Elecraft K3 or KX3 with satellite sw

I very rarely post anything to this reflector, but I have a question 
that maybe someone has already has done and has answers.

Shortly Elecraft will be offering a 2m module for its popular new SDR 
radio, the KX3.  This will provide 2m multi-mode operation using this 
nice little HF/6m radio.

Some years ago I sold my old satellite radios (FT-847  FT-817) so am 
looking into a two radio configuration for cross-band duplex 
satellite operation.  I have a K3 with 435-437 transmit capability 
using a Down East Microwave transverter and would be able to receive 
on 145 using the new KX3-2M combo.  (I also still have my s-band 
downconverter and L-band up converter for if/when these bands 
are activated).

What is unknown is if there is any sw support of the Elecraft radios 
on any satellite tracking sw? I am primarily interested in SSB thru 
transponders so frequency tracking under sw control would be 
nice.  I have both NOVA and SatPC32.  I have a tracking interface 
to control antenna tracking using a B5400 Yaesu az-el rotator.  Both 
these radios have computer control ports.


73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
dubus...@gmail.com
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[amsat-bb] Re: FW: SATPC32 AO73 question

2013-12-01 Thread Alan
Ted,

Ah, will need to add the VFO/Mem button to my things to check.  I changed rigs 
2 years ago, and I
forget some of the gotchas.

The Mode setting is correct.  Doppler Shift is fine, and probably more 
intuitive for most.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA
 

-Original Message-
From: Ted [mailto:k7trkra...@charter.net] 
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 3:59 PM
To: apbid...@mailaps.org; 'AMSAT-BB'
Cc: 'CC'
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: FW: SATPC32  AO73 question

Thanks Alan,

All of those items are as they should be. I did end up pushing 
the vfo/m
button and something changed. The freqs are where they should be and
holding. Radio and program are displaying the same numbers

Question on a setting: under Mode, 'uplink+downlink' checked 
and 'doppler
shift' checked...is that ok?

Thanks again

73, Ted

-Original Message-
From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 11:25 AM
To: 'AMSAT-BB'
Cc: CC
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FW: SATPC32  AO73 question

Ted,

Some questions. 
 
Does this problem only happen on AO-73, or all of them?  
In the Radio Setup, do you have Satellite Mode (Satelliten 
Modus) checked?
Is the SAT mode light on under CAT control?
Do you have the FT-847 TRACK mode selected?  If so, turn it off as in
conflicts with the CAT control.

Are you using a USB dongle for a serial port?  What is the CAT 
port delay?

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA



-Original Message-
From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org
[mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ted
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 12:44 PM
To: 'AMSAT-BB'
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: SATPC32  AO73 question  Any help 
appreciated 
73, Ted  -Original Message-
From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org 
[mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Ted
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 2:23 PM
To: 'AMSAT-BB'
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32  AO73 question  Hi all,
In spite of
my usual ineptness with this program, I have managed to have 
it talking to
my FT-847, downloaded the keps for AO73 and appear to be 
tracking it!!



However, I can't seem to get the radio to hold the up/dn 
frequencies in
the proper VFO's. I start out with the uplink showing in 
VFOA, but after a
min or so the frequencies swap and I have to use the ab 
button to get
them back.



Am I missing a setting?



Any help appreciated



And Happy Thanksgiving to all



73, Ted

K7TRK

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[amsat-bb] Re: AO 73 Program problem

2013-12-01 Thread Alan
Rich,

I was asking about the uplink frequency, since that is the one you reported 
incorrect.

The Down Link seems to be okay, but the uplink frequency is incorrect and 
shows FM mode! 

However, the downlink you mentioned is approximately the beacon, not the 
transponder, so the uplink
frequency would be irrelevant anyway.

If you entered the information which was posted here, have you selected the 
transponder pair rather
than the TLM in the CAT window?

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


-Original Message-
From: Rich/wa4bue [mailto:richard.s...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:20 PM
To: apbid...@mailaps.org; AMSAT-BB@amsat.org
Cc: Ed Williams; Bill
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: AO 73 Program problem

Downlink freq:  145.93350 and yes it is Doppler controlled.

We are going to check our inputs again tomorrow
- Original Message - 
From: Alan wa4...@gmail.com
To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org
Cc: CC apbid...@united.net
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 5:10 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO 73 Program problem


 Rich,

 Rig?

 What is the uplink frequency, approximately, and does it 
Doppler tune 
 during a pass?

 Actual DOPPLER.SQF information?  Cut and paste!

 Using AMSATNAMES.TXT?  Information.

 Never hurts for an outsider to look over your work.

 73s,

 Alan
 WA4SCA


 -Original Message-
 From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org
 [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Rich/wa4bue
 Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 3:36 PM
 To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org
 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO 73 Program problem
 
 We followed the instructions to enter into SATPC.
 
 We entered evert thing required and in DIVERSE Group we have AO 73.
 
 The Down Link seems to be okay, but the uplink frequency is
 incorrect and
 shows FM mode!
 
 We rechecked our inputs.
 
 What happened?
 
 God Bless
 
 Rich
 W4BUE
 
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[amsat-bb] Re: Use of Elecraft K3 or KX3 with satellite sw

2013-12-01 Thread Jeff Griffin
 The K3 command set is very Kenwood like. I'm going to my shore home for the
day tomorrow, if I have some spare time I will try to communicate with my
K3(with internal 2m module) with SatPC32 as a Kenwood, just to see how far
we can get

73 Jeff kb2m
  

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From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 5:29 PM
To: 'Edward R Cole'; AMSAT-BB@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Use of Elecraft K3 or KX3 with satellite sw

Ed,

Do Elecraft rigs have their own unique CAT command set, or do them use the
same basic set as Kenwood, Yaesu, or Icom?  If so, you MAY be able to use
them with SatPC32.  For instance, my Flex VU-5K uses the Kenwood set, and
behaves much like a TS-2000.  SatPC32 supports some Kenwood rigs Other in
the way you are discussing.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA
 

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From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org
[mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Edward R Cole
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 3:55 PM
To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Use of Elecraft K3 or KX3 with satellite sw  I very
rarely post anything to this reflector, but I have a question that maybe
someone has already has done and has answers.

Shortly Elecraft will be offering a 2m module for its popular new SDR
radio, the KX3.  This will provide 2m multi-mode operation using this nice
little HF/6m radio.

Some years ago I sold my old satellite radios (FT-847  FT-817) so am
looking into a two radio configuration for cross-band duplex satellite
operation.  I have a K3 with 435-437 transmit capability using a Down East
Microwave transverter and would be able to receive on 145 using the new
KX3-2M combo.  (I also still have my s-band downconverter and L-band up
converter for if/when these bands are activated).

What is unknown is if there is any sw support of the Elecraft radios on
any satellite tracking sw? I am primarily interested in SSB thru
transponders so frequency tracking under sw control would be nice.  I
have both NOVA and SatPC32.  I have a tracking interface to control antenna
tracking using a B5400 Yaesu az-el rotator.  Both these radios have
computer control ports.


73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
dubus...@gmail.com
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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-73/FUNcube-1 videos, observations

2013-12-01 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Hi Mark!

Thanks for your e-mail.  Since I do lots of satellite
demonstrations and get the questions about what it
takes to work satellites like the new AO-73, I figured
I'd put together some information in those videos and
my -BB posts.  I'll use your message as the one I reply
to, but acknowledge the others who replied to my late-
night post on the -BB and in direct e-mails today.  No
radio tonight, since I have to be in the office early
tomorrow, but I will probably be outside tomorrow night
for at least one of the AO-73 passes.

AC0RA mentioned last night on the western AO-73 pass
that he could receive the transponder and use the
dashboard to receive telemetry at the same time.  Wyatt
didn't go into detail on what he had to do on the laptop
on the air, but he mentioned he used HDSDR with the
dashboard software.  I may follow Hector's (CO6CBF)
suggestion of working the transponder and recording
everything during a pass, then run that through the
dashboard using whatever configuration I need so that
the playback can be piped into the dashboard and decoded.
I may be able to work SSB/CW satellites without a computer
from almost anywhere I go, but the SDR stuff is something
I am trying to (quickly) learn.  Especially when the
dongle's namesake is now in orbit and operational.  :-)

Since I will be at a hamfest on Saturday morning, I may
work on just using the dashboard by itself to copy the
telemetry, to have something else to show off at the
hamfest on AO-73's morning passes (if the transponder is
not turned on), then worry about trying to hear the
transponder and receive telemetry with the dashboard
later.

You mentioned that I could work the transponder and
receive telemetry at the same time if I transmit at
500mW.  This would be possible on higher passes based
on my tests in the past week, but is there a reason
why 5W would be too much with the Pro+ dongle and its
filtering along with a diplexer between the radios
and the Elk antenna?  I'm not looking to run more power
than 5W, since I'm not planning to add an amplifier or
replace one of my FT-817NDs with something like an
FT-857 at this point.

To those who suggested I modify one of my FT-817NDs to
have a panadapter interface and then use both the 817
and dongle on the downlink, what advantages would I
have in doing that, instead of just using the dongle
as the downlink receiver?  I apologize if this is a
silly question, but I'm wanting to learn more about
what I can do with this dongle, by itself or alongside
my existing gear.  I'm looking forward to seeing N1JEZ's
article in an upcoming AMSAT Journal, and will look at
the link Mike suggested to learn more about this option.

I haven't even started thinking about getting SatPC32
mixed in with all of this SDR stuff, but know that I
could do that.  I still need to get it working my two
FT-817NDs, something that remains on my satellite to
do list.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Mark L. Hammond marklhamm...@gmail.comwrote:

 
 Hi Patrick,

 Great sharing of your experiences---thanks!  Nice to have AO-73 operations
 futher characterized.

 
 Regarding the Funcube Dongle Pro Plus (FCDP+)---you should enjoy the
 experience of learning how to use it!  It's such a neat receiver.

 Some quick thoughts/pointers/questions:

 Are you planning to capture telemetry and work the transponder
 simultaneously during evening passes?  It might work, depending on your
 antenna system, especially if you can get buy with only 500mW uplink.  I'll
 be interested in your experiences with this...

 There is one thing to remember--you'll need two audio streams decoding at
 the same time.  SDR-Radio V2.1 will do this, with VFO A and VFO B.
 They each have separate audio out selections, so you can pipe the telemetry
 to something like VB Audio Virtual Cable into the Dashboard, and the other
 VFO and audio stream to your laptop speakers or headphone jack.  SDR-Radio
 V2.1 also has built in satellite tracking for doppler correction, and you
 can record the pass at the same time!


 On the other handif you don't want to try to do telemetry and the
 transponder simultaneously, you have some more options...

 SatPC32 has great DDE support, and you can use that with either HDSDR or
 SDRSharp to tune your FCDP+ as a separate receiver.  It works great, and
 it's pretty easy to do, if you want your receiver following the
 Doppler/frequency from SatPC32.

 Now, if you want to use your FCDP+ as a receiver AND be able to click on a
 frequency and have the transmit match it---that's another trickier setup
 involving HDSDR, SatPC32, and virtual comports.  It works and is slick, but
 it's not for the faint of heart.  You can read about that setup here:
 http://www.tomdoyle.org/FUNcube-SatPC32/FUNcube-SatPC32.html
 I did similar to that writeup by Tom, but found I could do 56k serial port
 speeds just fine.

 Have fun!

 73,




 So, lots of options..





[amsat-bb] Re: AO 73 Program problem

2013-12-01 Thread Rich/wa4bue
I should not complain we got it working at 0117 this evening, it is in a 
different group.  I heard data but no other signals.  It was not a good 
elevation path for FM16.

Thanks to all for your help.

One other question where do I turn on the tone for SO 50.  Again I can't find 
the menu for that!

Stefan, it might be a little early we still have thanksgiving turkey left, 
Merry Christmas to you.

God Bless

Rich
W4BUE
  - Original Message - 
  From: Stefan Wagener 
  To: Rich/wa4bue 
  Cc: AMSAT BB 
  Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 5:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO 73 Program problem


  Hi Rich,


  please cheek your doppler.sqf file and the entries in there under AO-73. 
SatPC32 will use/display whatever is written in there. Sometimes it is a messed 
up entry, wrong comma etc. The format is very specific and important.


  Hope that helps,


  Merry Christmas to you.


  Stefan, VE4NSA



  On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Rich/wa4bue richard.s...@verizon.net wrote:

We followed the instructions to enter into SATPC.

We entered evert thing required and in DIVERSE Group we have AO 73.

The Down Link seems to be okay, but the uplink frequency is incorrect and 
shows FM mode!

We rechecked our inputs.

What happened?

God Bless

Rich
W4BUE 
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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-73/FUNcube-1 videos, observations

2013-12-01 Thread Mark L. Hammond
Hi Patrick,

Quick response---the 500mW reference was mentioned for 2 reasons--first, you 
said it could work ;) and second, I suspect if you're using an Elk full duplex, 
you'll see some interaction at higher powers (whatever that is...).  So, you 
might be fine at 5W. Let us know how it works!

73 and have fun...

Mark N8MH 

At 02:32 AM 12/2/2013 +, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote:
Hi Mark!

Thanks for your e-mail.  Since I do lots of satellite
demonstrations and get the questions about what it
takes to work satellites like the new AO-73, I figured
I'd put together some information in those videos and
my -BB posts.  I'll use your message as the one I reply
to, but acknowledge the others who replied to my late-
night post on the -BB and in direct e-mails today.  No
radio tonight, since I have to be in the office early
tomorrow, but I will probably be outside tomorrow night
for at least one of the AO-73 passes.

AC0RA mentioned last night on the western AO-73 pass
that he could receive the transponder and use the
dashboard to receive telemetry at the same time.  Wyatt
didn't go into detail on what he had to do on the laptop
on the air, but he mentioned he used HDSDR with the
dashboard software.  I may follow Hector's (CO6CBF)
suggestion of working the transponder and recording
everything during a pass, then run that through the
dashboard using whatever configuration I need so that
the playback can be piped into the dashboard and decoded.
I may be able to work SSB/CW satellites without a computer
from almost anywhere I go, but the SDR stuff is something
I am trying to (quickly) learn.  Especially when the
dongle's namesake is now in orbit and operational.  :-)

Since I will be at a hamfest on Saturday morning, I may
work on just using the dashboard by itself to copy the
telemetry, to have something else to show off at the
hamfest on AO-73's morning passes (if the transponder is
not turned on), then worry about trying to hear the
transponder and receive telemetry with the dashboard
later.

You mentioned that I could work the transponder and
receive telemetry at the same time if I transmit at
500mW.  This would be possible on higher passes based
on my tests in the past week, but is there a reason
why 5W would be too much with the Pro+ dongle and its
filtering along with a diplexer between the radios
and the Elk antenna?  I'm not looking to run more power
than 5W, since I'm not planning to add an amplifier or
replace one of my FT-817NDs with something like an
FT-857 at this point.

To those who suggested I modify one of my FT-817NDs to
have a panadapter interface and then use both the 817
and dongle on the downlink, what advantages would I
have in doing that, instead of just using the dongle
as the downlink receiver?  I apologize if this is a
silly question, but I'm wanting to learn more about
what I can do with this dongle, by itself or alongside
my existing gear.  I'm looking forward to seeing N1JEZ's
article in an upcoming AMSAT Journal, and will look at
the link Mike suggested to learn more about this option.

I haven't even started thinking about getting SatPC32
mixed in with all of this SDR stuff, but know that I
could do that.  I still need to get it working my two
FT-817NDs, something that remains on my satellite to
do list.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Mark L. Hammond marklhamm...@gmail.comwrote:

 
 Hi Patrick,

 Great sharing of your experiences---thanks!  Nice to have AO-73 operations
 futher characterized.

 
 Regarding the Funcube Dongle Pro Plus (FCDP+)---you should enjoy the
 experience of learning how to use it!  It's such a neat receiver.

 Some quick thoughts/pointers/questions:

 Are you planning to capture telemetry and work the transponder
 simultaneously during evening passes?  It might work, depending on your
 antenna system, especially if you can get buy with only 500mW uplink.  I'll
 be interested in your experiences with this...

 There is one thing to remember--you'll need two audio streams decoding at
 the same time.  SDR-Radio V2.1 will do this, with VFO A and VFO B.
 They each have separate audio out selections, so you can pipe the telemetry
 to something like VB Audio Virtual Cable into the Dashboard, and the other
 VFO and audio stream to your laptop speakers or headphone jack.  SDR-Radio
 V2.1 also has built in satellite tracking for doppler correction, and you
 can record the pass at the same time!


 On the other handif you don't want to try to do telemetry and the
 transponder simultaneously, you have some more options...

 SatPC32 has great DDE support, and you can use that with either HDSDR or
 SDRSharp to tune your FCDP+ as a separate receiver.  It works great, and
 it's pretty easy to do, if you want your receiver following the
 Doppler/frequency from SatPC32.

 Now, if you want to use your FCDP+ as a receiver AND be able to click on a
 frequency and have the transmit match it---that's another