[amsat-bb] AMSAT Attitudes

2014-02-13 Thread Joel Black

You know, my kids don't act like this.

If they did...

Well, they don't.

Holier-than-thou, narcissistic, shall I go on?

Are you all ticked at *me*now?

Good, at least I have you agreeing about *something*!

Mmm... I wonder why AMSAT membership is waning...

Joel - W4JBB
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[amsat-bb] Alliance U-110 (Maybe U-100) Sync

2013-12-19 Thread Joel Black
I've got an Alliance U-1xx (not sure which, I thought it was labeled, 
but I cannot find it). Reading an online manual says if the light stays 
on after rotating, the rotor and control box should be re-synced and to 
follow the instructions on the bottom of the control box. I don't have 
those instructions. Does anyone know how to re-sync this rotor?


Thanks,
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[amsat-bb] Returning Satellite User

2013-12-17 Thread Joel Black
For whatever reason, I have gotten interested in amateur satellites 
again after being away for almost 10 years.


I've gone through the last two months in the archives and I have a 
couple of things:


1. I saw some questions about the the K3. I have the K3 and the KX3 and 
do not know of a satellite app that will talk to them. Both use a 
Kenwood command set, but I do not know which. Thus far, I have not been 
able to get either SatPC32 or MacDoppler to talk to my K3.


2. I have access to an FT-847 I sold my father several years ago. This 
is the radio I used on the satellites when I was active. I had initially 
thought about buying the 2m transverter for the K3, but after talking to 
many users of that transverter and explaining what I wanted to and that 
I had access to the FT-847, it was advised that I go with the FT-847.


3. I have a 2m / 70cm QHTenna turnstile pair. I *also* have an Arrow 
144/432 antenna. I think either pair will work well from my 
plywood-decked, shingle roof. I would like to use the Arrow, but (a) I 
don't have a good way to point it, and (b) I cannot find the gain. If 
memory serves, it has a fairly good gain around 4dB for 2m and 6 dB for 
70cm. I don't know that there's any gain to the turnstiles, but at least 
I won't need a rotor for those. Any other advice here?


4. I also have the AG-25 2m preamp. I know the FT-847 will power this 
preamp. It is not quite as good as the DEM preamps, but it's what I 
have. Any suggestions here?


I am really not interested in the FM satellites. I am very interested in 
the linear transponders - especially CW. Any CW ops out there? I'm still 
slow (13 - 15WPM), but I'm working on my speed. From what I've read, the 
linear transponders are on AO-7, FO-29 (I cut my teeth on FO-20), VO-52, 
and AO-73. It looks like AO-7 is both mode A and mode B, FO-29 is mode 
J, and both VO-52 and AO-73 are mode B. It sounds like there is really a 
lot to play with up there.


73,
Joel - W4JBB


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[amsat-bb] Re: U-110 Rotor Setup

2012-07-03 Thread Joel Black
Okay, that sounds familiar, John.  It had pots that may have been belt 
driven that increased or decreased the resistance depending on rotation.


Something else I remember - the person put a plastic garbage can over it 
to keep out the rain.  I know why he did that.  I just find it amusing 
that I remember that detail.


Let me ask one other question before I get to comments.  I actually have 
one U-100 and one U-110.  Is this going to be an issue?  I'm not sure 
what the difference is.


@AA5AM:  Don't put too much into it.  I thought someone might remember 
it off the top of their head.  There are several solutions that I got 
that may be better than what I was looking for.


@KL7XJ:  I vaguely remember the SatEL being advertised in the Journal.  
I think it is time to renew my AMSAT membership and maybe purchase those 
DVD's.


@VK4HHH:  I have looked at K8DAV's setup quite a bit.  I got myself 
confused thinking it only worked over a parallel port (that is an issue 
but can be overcome unless portable/field).  However, I realized the 
basic stamp controller worked over a serial port (not an issue).  I may 
go this route, but I'm still looking for options. Will this setup work 
using SatPC32 which was my preferred tracking software when I was 
satellite active?


@KO6TH:  I like your approach.  Let me see if I got my head wrapped 
around your design - serial interface to the FODtrack board which then 
controlled your controller?  That's pretty cool.


@VU2POP:  Very nice homebrew tower and rotor setup.

Still working out my options.  I just want something simple that I can 
take to the field using a modern laptop.


Lot's of good suggestions here.

Downloaded the form to renew my AMSAT membership too.

73,
Joel - W4JBB

On 7/3/2012 5:09 AM, John / NS1Z wrote:
I think you are referring to the satellite compendium put out many 
years ago. Ii am sure it is out of print now. Over the years I built a 
couple and one even auto track (but a LOT of work)


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Subject: [amsat-bb] U-110 Rotor Setup

I am looking for an old article regarding the use of two U-110 rotors
for satellite operations.

I have gone through all my old references and cannot find what I'm
looking for.

Basically, it was a setup using two U-110's (or it could have been two
U-100's).  The homemade controller used either toggle or rocker switches
and had a digital readout of AZ/EL using DVOM's.  As far as I remember,
it was all manual.  I remember seeing this in the back of some
publication, but I cannot find it.

Does anyone have any inkling of and idea what I'm talking about?

73,
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[amsat-bb] U-110 Rotor Setup

2012-07-02 Thread Joel Black
I am looking for an old article regarding the use of two U-110 rotors 
for satellite operations.


I have gone through all my old references and cannot find what I'm 
looking for.


Basically, it was a setup using two U-110's (or it could have been two 
U-100's).  The homemade controller used either toggle or rocker switches 
and had a digital readout of AZ/EL using DVOM's.  As far as I remember, 
it was all manual.  I remember seeing this in the back of some 
publication, but I cannot find it.


Does anyone have any inkling of and idea what I'm talking about?

73,
Joel - W4JBB
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[amsat-bb] iPad App - HamSatHD

2011-09-15 Thread Joel Black
The company I work for gave me a 16GB iPad for work and I can pretty 
much put anything I want on it.


There are not as many apps designed for the iPad as there are for the 
iPhone (iPhone apps will work, but they're screen space small).  
However, I found HamSatHD.  There are no reviews on the App Store so I 
was wondering if anyone here has used or is using it?


I just want to track satellites not control anything while out-and-about.

Developer webpage is www.vosworx.com.

Thanks,
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[amsat-bb] SDR For Satellite Use

2011-09-15 Thread Joel Black
I have successfully built and operated my G59 transceiver with GPA10 10W 
amp (http://www.genesisradio.com.au/) for 40m JT65a contacts to VK2, 75m 
voice contacts in the States, and everything in between.


At some point in the past, some group (TAPR?) had a 2m SDR transceiver.  
I have no idea where that information might be.


Does anyone here use SDR for their satellite operation?  Maybe using 
Flex radios or something else?  I don't know that it would matter on the 
FM birds, but it would be nice to be able to see the spectrum on the 
linear birds.


Thanks,
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[amsat-bb] More Shack Cleaning

2011-04-13 Thread Joel Black
Hopefully, this is the last of the equipment.

I found an old FODTrack board.  It is built, but it is not in an 
enclosure.  Last time I used it with InstanTrack, it worked fine.  I 
still have the Icom AG-25 2m preamp and an unmodded  CalAmp 31732.

FODTrack:  $75 OBO
AG-25:  $90 OBO
CalAmp 31732:  $30 OBO  (Mod details are here:  
http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/wc0y/index.html)

Posting on QTH.com also.

73,
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[amsat-bb] Cleaning Out More Stuff (2.4GHz)

2011-04-03 Thread Joel Black
I found the following in my workshop that need to go:

1 ea. CalAmp 31881 (not sure which crystal is installed, but I'd guess 
2m) $30 OBO + shipping
1 ea. CalAmp 31732 (I don't think I modded this one) $30 OBO +shipping
1 ea. DEM 13ULNA $80 OBO +shipping

I also have a solid copper 5 1/2-turn 2.4GHz helix with aluminum disk 
reflector.  Not sure how I'd get this to you w/o damage.  Has N-type 
male for interfacing with the 13ULNA.  $15 firm +shipping.

If you wish to pay by PayPal, I will have to add the service charge to 
your purchase.

You can reply to w4jbb(at)charter(dot)net.

Thanks for looking and for the bandwidth.

73,
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[amsat-bb] Ground Station Items For Sale

2011-03-22 Thread Joel Black
I'm no longer active on satellites and have some satellite-related gear 
that is surplus to my needs:

1 ea. Symek TNC31S - $275 OBO +shipping (and PayPal fee if applicable).  
Comes with the 9600 and 9.6k/38.4k modems.  I'd prefer to not separate.  
From what I read on the Symek site, both are out of production.  I think 
it was UO-36 on which I used this.

1 ea. Icom AG-25 - $125 OBO +shipping (and PayPal fee if applicable).  
Works with the IC-821 and FT-847 (I do not know about other radios).

I might have a pair of mode J antennas too.  I need to contact the 
person who was going to purchase them.

Please contact me off-list at w4jbb(at)charter.net

73,
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[amsat-bb] Yaesu G-5400B For Sale

2010-06-06 Thread Joel Black
I'll offer it here first.  I have a Yaesu G-5400B rotor and controller for
sale.  It took some lightning damage to the controller but it has been
repaired and works well.  It is several years old and I am not the original
owner.  I will also throw in a Fox-Delta ST1.  The ST1 is brand new - I
still have the raw parts for assembling the cable that interfaces to the
rotor controller.  The rotor, controller, and ST1 for $300 firm.

I also have the following antennas that I will sell locally (Tuscaloosa, AL)
or will travel up to 50 miles:

KLM 22-element 2m CP antenna - $100 firm
Homebrew 44-element 70cm CP antenna -  $100 firm

I also have a couple of preamps - both Icom, one for 2m, one for 70cm that I
could be talked into selling and an eight foot FG crossboom.

All of this equipment is still mounted on a short tower, but can be removed
easily.  I can provide pictures if needed.

Thanks for the BW.

73,
Joel, W4JBB

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[amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu G-5400B For Sale

2010-06-06 Thread Joel Black
Sorry, folks.  I should have stated, those prices do not include shipping.
My apologies for any inconvenience.

73,
Joel, W4JBB

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Joel Black jbblac...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'll offer it here first.  I have a Yaesu G-5400B rotor and controller for
 sale.  It took some lightning damage to the controller but it has been
 repaired and works well.  It is several years old and I am not the original
 owner.  I will also throw in a Fox-Delta ST1.  The ST1 is brand new - I
 still have the raw parts for assembling the cable that interfaces to the
 rotor controller.  The rotor, controller, and ST1 for $300 firm.

 I also have the following antennas that I will sell locally (Tuscaloosa,
 AL) or will travel up to 50 miles:

 KLM 22-element 2m CP antenna - $100 firm
 Homebrew 44-element 70cm CP antenna -  $100 firm

 I also have a couple of preamps - both Icom, one for 2m, one for 70cm that
 I could be talked into selling and an eight foot FG crossboom.

 All of this equipment is still mounted on a short tower, but can be removed
 easily.  I can provide pictures if needed.

 Thanks for the BW.

 73,
 Joel, W4JBB

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[amsat-bb] FT-847 CAT Question

2010-04-10 Thread Joel Black
I just got my FT-847 back from Yaesu for repairs due to a lightning 
strike.  The radio powers up and what little I've checked seems to work 
except for the CAT port.

1.  I have tried both SatPC32 and HRD to talk to the radio, but nothing 
happens.  I don't even get the CAT indicator on the radio which, if 
memory serves, would show up even if I had erroneous settings you just 
couldn't do anything with the radio / software.
2.  I have changed to slower baud rates in the programs and 
correspondingly, the baud rate in the FT-847.
3.  I have changed baud rates in device manager for this COM port.
4.  I have changed that COM port flow control from none to Xon/Xoff to 
hardware with no change.
5.  I have changed HRD to use DTR, DTR and RTS, and just RTS.
6.  I just tried a reset of all settings on the FT-847 and that still 
does not solve the issue.
7.  I have checked the null-modem cable with an RS-232 tester and it 
appears good.
8.  I just hooked that tester up to the cable with the other end of the 
cable connected to the radio and pins 2, 3, and 5 lit up.  (Strange, I 
cannot duplicate that test now - nothing lights up on the RS-232 tester.)

At this point, I'm pretty sure my CAT port got taken out too (there was 
no way for me to test this before sending back to Yaesu as the radio 
would not power up) after the event.  However, I'm open to the 
possibility that I have missed something.

I am leaning heavily toward just using it as is.  There was a time when 
I was using an IC-821, that I didn't have CAT control, but I do miss my 
HRD.  :(

I would like to add that I am using a Prolific USB-to-serial converter 
that works flawlessly with my FT-857.

Thanks for any help or advice.

73,
Joel, W4JBB
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[amsat-bb] SatPC32 and FT-857

2010-03-30 Thread Joel Black
It seems that any time I leave SatPC32 to operate my FT-857 on HF, 
SatPC32 leaves my radio in split mode.  Is there a setting or something 
else I have missed somewhere?

Thanks,
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[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Awards

2010-03-26 Thread Joel Black
Congratulations to all the awardees.

Joel, W4JBB

Bruce wrote:
 The following have entered into the Satellite Communicators Club for 
 making their first satellite QSO.

 Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN
 Mesa Community College ARC, KM7CC
 David Sharpe, KF7DRQ
 Jim Adams, K0BAM
 Richard Rowe, KJ4OUQ


 The following have earned the AMSAT Communications Achievement Award.

 Randal Schulze, KD0HKD, #509
 Michael Vargo, AC8CX, #510
 Jose Toste, CU3EQ, #511


 The following have earned the W4AMI Achievement Award (for 1000 contacts)

 Douglas Anoman, KC9MLN, #60
 Howard Merritt, KD7ZLF, #61
 Chip Weems, W4PBG, #62


 The following have earned the South Africa AMSAT Communications 
 Achievement Award

 Randal Schulze, KD0HKD, #US142
 Michael Vargo, AC8CX, #US143
 Jose Toste, CU3EQ, #US144

 To see all the awards visit http://www.amsat.org or
 http://www.amsatnet.com


 Bruce Paige, KK5DO
 AMSAT Director Contests and Awards


 ARRL Awards Manager (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
 Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0200z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
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 Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes

 Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
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[amsat-bb] OT: Power Supply Crowbar Question

2010-03-23 Thread Joel Black
I have a question about the crowbar circuit in my RS-35A I'm trying to 
repair after my lightning strike.  Please contact me off list and I will 
pose my question.

Thanks,
Joel, W4JBB
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[amsat-bb] Re: Simple antennas

2010-03-19 Thread Joel Black
Jacob,

If you're a member of the ARRL, do a search for QHTenna on their 
webpage.  It's a simple turnstile antenna.  I have a pair and they're 
easily built.  Also, the K5OE page is archived in many places.  You can 
do a search for Texas Potato Masher and see what you get.  I'm going 
to try and build a pair of those (TPM2's) soon.

Good luck.

73,
Joel, W4JBB

Jacob Tennant wrote:
 Could anyone give me some advice on using a setup consisting of the smaller
 antennas such as K5OE Eggbeaters, dual-crossed MOXON's from ARRL site.

 I am starting to build the dual-crossed MOXON setup as I am running into
 some snags getting my planned bigger antenna setup installed  as well as I
 was hoping to use the smaller antenna setup for a Field Day setup but don't
 want to wait till that day to use them and look like a fool

 Would even consider the quadrifilliar antennas if I could find the plans for
 both bands?

 Jacob Tennant - K8JWT

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[amsat-bb] Playing With Lightning

2010-03-13 Thread Joel Black
I certainly appreciate all the replies and the encouragement.

If any of you with a G-5400 controller would check something out, I'd 
appreciate it.  When I move up or right, there is a momentary deflection 
in the opposite direction.  Then, when I release the button, it jumps 
ahead a bit by just a few degrees.  If I move down or left, there is no 
immediate deflection, but when I release the button, it deflects in the 
opposite direction.  I just don't remember mine acting that way before 
the strike.

Thanks,
Joel, W4JBB

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[amsat-bb] FT847 and Lightning

2010-03-12 Thread Joel Black
I appreciate everyone who has responded to my incessant questions here 
lately regarding radios, etc..  Tuesday morning, I took a hit to my 
VHF/UHF vertical antenna.  It came into the ham shack and got the 
following equipment:

FT-847
FT-8100
RS-35A
either the LVB Tracker, the G5400 controller or both (the G5400 
controller is sluggish and the LVB tracker doesn't even turn on)
cable modem
router
my PC's NIC
my kids' PC's NIC
and reset a couple of GFI outlets throughout the house.

I have been asking the questions of the radios because I have an FT857 
that I was not in use at the time; however, it does not have full duplex 
capability.  I really like the 857 and wouldn't mind having another, but 
the FT817 would be (from what I read) a great little receiver and it's a 
bit less expensive (I can add filters to it at that cost).  As for the 
847, I work in telecom and I know what kind of damage you fight from a 
lightning strike.  I could send it to Yaesu, but when it comes back, 
I'll be fighting with it from now on.  I just don't want to spend $500 
for repairs only to have to send it back six months later for repairs 
again.  I'll try to fix it, but that's going to be kind of slow - it'll 
also make for a good teacher.

As for the rotor controller, I was already going to completely take down 
the HEO antenna array and put up either homebrew eggbeaters or 
turnstiles.  The 22 elements on 2m and 44 elements on 70cm are a tad 
overkill for what is up there and they need work.  I really want to put 
a hexbeam up on that tower anyway.  :)

I guess I'm looking for advice.  Do I send the radio to Yaesu for repair 
or purchase a companion for the 857?  Any other advice is also welcome.

Folks, unplug and disconnect everything.  We had another lightning storm 
last night.  At 3am, my wife woke me and said, Honey, there's 
light...  I ran into the hamshack and just pulled everything out of the 
wall.  It's funny looking back on it, but I still have a sick feeling in 
my stomach.
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[amsat-bb] Satellite Radio(s)

2010-03-11 Thread Joel Black
Hypothetically speaking, if you had an FT-857 and wanted to work 
satellites full-duplex, what would you pair it with?  Another 857, an 
817, something else?

Thanks,
Joel, W4JBB
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[amsat-bb] Membership Benefits

2010-03-07 Thread Joel Black
AMSAT-BB,

I realize what I'm going to get by asking this...  If you were giving a 
presentation to amateur radio operators who know little or nothing of 
AMSAT, what would you list as some of the benefits of being a member of 
AMSAT?  What would be the single most important reason?


73,
Joel, W4JBB
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[amsat-bb] Re: New Lindy's QRV

2010-02-09 Thread Joel Black
Yes, I agree with that, Clint.  I have been looking at Jerry Brown's, K5OE,
archived pages available here:

http://web.archive.org/web/2824013151/http://members.aol.com/k5oe/

After looking at it, I think I like the radiation patterns of the TPM II's
better than any other LEO antenna I've seen thus far.  There may be better
out there that I have not seen.  I have worked Jerry several times with him
using those antennas.

I don't have a problem with large arrays where I live, but they're just
overkill IMHO.  I only have one large tree to the SW and with the beamwidth
of 22 elements on VHF and 44 on UHF, my rotor is constantly working.

73,
Joel, W4JBB

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Clint Bradford clintbradf...@mac.comwrote:

  ... Does it -matter- if he uses a preamp on FM, SSB, or freaking two
 cans and a string?

 Absolutely not. It has just been my mantra the past four years advising
 folks that you do not need 100 Watts of TX power, expensive Yagis on the
 roof, and a rotator under computer control to get into working the FM
 satellites.

 Now, then, if I lived in Drew's neighborhood, all that equipment sounds
 pretty appealing ... working the birds while adding fire to the fireplace
 with a hot toddy (or three) at hand.

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[amsat-bb] Re: New Lindy's QRV

2010-02-06 Thread Joel Black
Enjoyed your webpage, Ed.

Probably going to take down the AO-10 antennas here and put up something
much simpler such as your Lindenblads or a couple of TPM's.  The AO-10 setup
is way overkill for what is up there and I'd rather use my tower for
something other than satellites.

Good luck with your antennas.

73,
Joel, W4JBB

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Edward Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote:

 Just a note that I copied HO-68 beacon yesterday on my new Lindenblad
 antennas.
 I have updated the webpage:
 http://www.kl7uw.com/LBant.htm

 I am only running mode-VU with the Lindys because the UHF antenna
 has a preamp and the VHF one does not.

 My directional satellite array is not quite QRV; needs cables
 connected in shack.
 They have full capability for modes; VU, UV, US, VS, LU, LS
 So I will not be on AO-7, VO-52, or FO-29 quite yet.

 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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[amsat-bb] Re: It's NOT Censorship

2010-01-15 Thread Joel Black
I agree that if you don't like how things are being run:

1. leave,
2. vote out the BoD and vote in new, or
3. form your own organization.

What I disagree with is the statement, AMSAT is not 'censoring' anyone.

Now, I'm no lawyer by any stretch, but I can read.  Censoring is 
limiting speech based on what one finds objectionable.  What is 
objectionable is completely subjective.

Abridging the freedom of speech is how it is worded in the First 
Amendment.  Abridging also means limiting.  So, whether you call it 
censorship or abridging, what the AMSAT BoD has done is censorship.

In the end, it's your $44.

73,
Joel, W4JBB



Clint Bradford wrote:
 ... Censorship in any form without external control is unacceptable ... 
   

 AMSAT is not censoring anyone. In America, only the government is not 
 allowed to censor folks. You know, that First Amendment thingie:

 Congress shall make no law respecting ... abridging the freedom of speech 
 ... 

 This messagegroup - and millions of others - is a private party. NOT 
 government-run nor sponsored. We're mere visitors entering and using it, and 
 we have to abide by its rules - else we go elsewhere. Like guests in your 
 home, there's an expected set of rules for behavior, and AMSAT just laid them 
 out in black and white.

 Similar to a Web site's user service agreement - a concept and device I've 
 been using for my sites' visitors for over twenty years. A properly-drafted 
 user service agreement spells out what I promise to you as the Web site 
 owner, and what I expect from you as a visitor. Kinda like shaking hands 
 before you peruse my sites.

 Clint Bradford, K6LCS
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[amsat-bb] SatPC32 Releasing Ports

2010-01-09 Thread Joel Black
I have an issue that appears to be with SatPC32 although I could be wrong.

When I use SatPC32, all works fine with my USB-to-serial adapter 
controlling the radio.  If I shut down SatPC32 and start HamRadioDeluxe, 
generally speaking, I cannot control HRD.  It's as if the USB-to-serial 
adapter is still wanting to talk to SatPC32.  Starting up SatPC32 in the 
same session works fine.  I have found that a restart of the PC is not 
usually enough to release the USB adapter - a full shutdown is 
required.  Occasionally, unplugging and replugging the USB adapter will 
work, but not often.

USB adapter:  U232-P9
PC:  Dell E520
OS:  Vista 32-bit
RAM:  3GB
SatPC32:  v12.8a
HRD:  v5.0 build 2434 Beta

When I was getting the version numbers, I started SatPC first and then 
HRD.  Right now, it's working as it should.  Even changing satellites, 
thus making the radio switch modes, doesn't cause HRD to fail on 
start-up.  So, I cannot make it *not* work right now.

Thanks,
Joel, W4JBB
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[amsat-bb] Re: Software to run a ts-200 and LVB

2009-12-15 Thread Joel Black
SatPC32.  The money you spend gets donated to AMSAT.

73,
Joel, W4JBB

On 12/14/2009 9:52 PM, racer5039 wrote:
 I am having a really hard time getting HRD to run with Windows 7 or Vista.
 Is there something else out there that will run the 200 and the LVB tracker?
 HRD was working real well til the last couple of updated but I'm ready to try 
 something else.

 Thanks
 Marv.
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[amsat-bb] Re: Red Display SATPC32

2009-11-15 Thread Joel Black
Alan,

That was it.  It only occurred over the polar regions.  I knew it was 
something simple.  Thanks.

73,
Joel, W4JBB

Alan P. Biddle wrote:
 Joel,

 A satellite on the map can be different colors, depending on the background,
 to make it visible.  For instance, against a white background such as the
 polar regions, it is red.  Perhaps elsewhere, though I did not look.  Is
 that what you are seeing?

 Alan
 WA4CA


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 To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Red Display

 For the life of me, I can neither remember nor find why a satellite 
 shows up in red on the display in SatPC32.  Can someone point me or kick 
 me in the head?

 Thanks,
 Joel, W4JBB
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[amsat-bb] Red Display

2009-11-14 Thread Joel Black
For the life of me, I can neither remember nor find why a satellite 
shows up in red on the display in SatPC32.  Can someone point me or kick 
me in the head?

Thanks,
Joel, W4JBB
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[amsat-bb] LVB Tracker Help

2009-10-31 Thread Joel Black
I have resurrected my LVB Tracker project from several years back.  
Using WinXP, I was finally able to go through the first part of 
programming the tracker I think.  I get the following:

Press RESET button.  Hit any key to continue.
Identifying device...
Chip ID=09E6
16F876 identified
Beginning bulk erase...
Bulk erase finished.

Press reset button.  Hit any key to continue.
Programming device...
Programming: Some HEX value  at this point it counts up from  to 
1FE0 (I think the last value is correct, it went by so quickly, I'm not 
sure)
Verifying device...
Configuring device...
Verifying configuration...

Switch OFF device.  Hit any key to continue.
Remove HDR3.  Hit any key to continue.
Place HDR1 into RUN mode.  Hit any key to continue.
Device programmed.  Hit any key to continue.

Then I get a C:\ prompt.  At this point, the device is powered down.  I 
take out the RS232 chip and put in the FTDI chip and connect to the LVB 
Tracker with Tera Term.  When I hit C, I get:
+0546
F, A, S:
Az Offset=1023
F, E, S:
El Offset=1023

At this point, I'm supposed to turn the rotor CW to 360°.  Well, I 
cannot.  As soon as I plug the LVB into the G5400 controller (at the 
very beginning of programming), everything turned to max (EL at 180° and 
AZ at 180° Right).  I cannot change any setting manually with the rotor 
controller.  I can commit values to memory, but nothing else.  When I 
type F, A, E, I get:

Az mul=.

For F, E, E, I get:

El mul=.

When I commit all this to memory and hit RESET, I still get no movement 
from the rotor using the controller.  Only after disconnecting the LVB 
from the controller am I able to move the rotor.

Any help or suggestions?

73,
Joel, W4JBB
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[amsat-bb] Re: Nova Satellite Prediction Program

2009-10-27 Thread Joel Black
SatPC32 IMHO...

73,
Joel, W4JBB

jimcknw...@aol.com wrote:
 Installed, reinstalled, changed versions- multiple problems with  
 calculating scripts. What program should I change to?
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[amsat-bb] Re: ITAR is interesting to me

2009-10-18 Thread Joel Black
Someone mentioned waaay back in this discussion something about ITAR and 
international students being taught in the US.  Read this article:

http://slashdot.org/story/09/10/17/1948223/The-USs-Reverse-Brain-Drain

Is there anyone left in our government with common sense any more?  
Wait...  gah!!!  I'm blinded by a flash of the obvious - NO, there is no 
one left in government with common sense.  While I'll not get into the 
politics of ITAR (we're way beyond politics), perhaps we should get the 
ARRL involved in lobbying our effort.

Before, you say, That's a wonderful idea, why don't you take that one 
and try it.  I am.  I don't know the exact procedure for doing so, but 
I think a letter to my ARRL Division Manager might be a good start.

73,
Joel, W4JBB

k0...@juno.com wrote:
 Greetings All:
  
 The Amsat BB is a great source of information we all know:
 I have a few questions about ITAR that I thought might interest more than
 I.
 I tried to be careful of the words I used.
  
 1.) Do all launched satellites that have US components or interests fall
 under ITAR? 
 2.) When does ITAR interest begin for a launchable Amateur satellite?
 3.) Is software and firmware that is a part of a Amateur satellite at
 launch fall under ITAR?
 4.) Who normally handles University Cube Sat ITAR issues when Amateur
 frequencies are used?
 5.) Who normally handles US Military school Cube-Sat ITAR issues when
 Amateur frequencies are use ?
 6.) When is there no ITAR interest in a Amateur satellite? 
 7.) Did Suitsat one or two (ARISSaT-1) have any ITAR problems since they
 are satellites
   using Amateur frequency?
  
 I have more ITAR related questions.
  
 Best Regards

 Joe  K0VTY
  
 
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[amsat-bb] Re: satpc32 problems

2009-10-18 Thread Joel Black
No matter the solution, would you mind posting to the -BB also, Erich?  
I'm in the process of trying to finish an LVB and, if I run into the 
same problem this might be a good place to start.

73,
Joel, W4JBB

Erich Eichmann wrote:
 Bob,
 my answer to your mail from Oct. 16 has twice been returned by comcast.net. 
 The same happened with previous of my mails to you.

 In the returned message they say:
 A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
 recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
   w7...@comcast.net
 SMTP error from remote mailer after initial connection:
 host mx2.comcast.net [76.96.30.116]: 554 
 IMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net comcast 194.25.134.18 Comcast block for 
 spam.  Please see http://help.comcast.net/content/faq/BL00 .

 Under the link they say:
 Our filters have determined that email from your mail server has been sent 
 in patterns which are characteristic of spam.. 

 Do you still have another e-mail address?
 To be sure that you get this mail I send it also via AMSAT-BB.

 73s, Erich, DK1TB

   - Original Message - 
   From: Bob- W7LRD 
   To: dk...@amsat.org 
   Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:43 PM
   Subject: Fwd: satpc32 problems






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   From: Bob- W7LRD w7...@comcast.net
   To: dk...@amsat.net
   Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:03:06 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
   Subject: satpc32 problems


   Hello Eric

   I hate to be a complainer but I am having ongoing issues with the program.  
 When tracking a satellite and driving the LVB tracker.  More often than not 
 the LVB will stop tracking, while satpc continues.  The only way I can get 
 everything back running (short of manual control) is to shut off the LVB, 
 turn it back on, restart satpc32 and then select the desired satellite.  
 Lately with AO51 being in mode L/U close accurate tracking is necessary due 
 to high gain antenna for 1.2ghz.  I have been told there is no hand shaking 
 between the computer and LVB, so the LVB just receives the data.  I have 
 reinstalled satpc32 and no change.  I also get a note on the computer 
 program not responding, then asked if I want to send a message to MS.  
 Could it be a windows issue??  Any advice is appreciated.

   73 Bob W7LRD

   Seattle, Wa.



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[amsat-bb] What Are Others Using

2009-10-15 Thread Joel Black
Years ago, when I first started operating the satellites, I used an 
IC-821.  I graduated up to an FT-847.  I don't ever remember using 
software to tune the rig (the IC-821 or FT-847) only software to steer 
the antennas.

For the life of me, I cannot seem to find my downlink using the FT-847 
and *any* tuning software with the linear birds (AO-7 and VO-52).  It 
works fine with the fixed freq FM birds which, understandably, is 
easier for it to track.  I am just wondering, does *anyone* use tuning 
software with the linear birds or do you just tune it manually?

73,
Joel, W4JBB
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[amsat-bb] Re: What Are Others Using

2009-10-15 Thread Joel Black
My, my at the assumption.  I've been a customer of SatPC32 for more than six
years.  I've been on sabbatical.  :)  Trying to get the cobwebs cleaned out.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:39 PM, David - KG4ZLB kg4...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Seconded!

 Buy the licence, donate to AMSAT - easy!

 --
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 KG4ZLB
 www.kg4zlb.com



 Elan Portnoy wrote:
  SatPC32 works great on the linear birds. Takes a little tuning to get on
 the right freq, but works nicely after setup.
 
 
 
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[amsat-bb] Sunday Morning AO-51 Pass

2009-10-04 Thread Joel Black
I finally have my rotor and coax connected into the shack and just 
listening right now.  Heard W7JPI this morning on AO-51, sounded great.


73,
Joel, W4JBB
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[amsat-bb] Re: OFF grid solar system

2009-10-03 Thread Joel Black
Ok, I'm not *trying* to be dense here, but regardless of whether you tie 
into the grid, use batteries, or have an off-grid system with no 
batteries that only works during the day, what happens to the 30% waste 
of generated electricity that is dissipated as heat?  What am I missing?

Something you *all* must be aware of, those transformers on the pole 
work both ways:  7200VAC down to 240VAC and 240VAC back to 7200VAC.  If 
you get a lineman out there working on a phase he thinks is not hot and 
he gets seriously injured or killed, you will be liable.  I'm *not* 
saying this to discourage you, but to make sure you use a licensed 
electrician to install a proper automatic disconnect switch.  Alabama 
Power requires an automatic disconnect.

73,
Joel, W4JBB

Bob Bruninga wrote:
 Think in terms of ... an independant 
 12 volt DC system.. starting small 
 and building up over time... We need 
 to be energy independant on a small 
 scale...
 

 Agree, but think in terms of big panels if you want low cost.  I have 
 Eighteen 1 foot solar panels on my car that produce 215 watts total, but the 
 cost for small panels was $2400.  

 Now the cost of a single 3.3' by 5.5' house panel is only $600 and it 
 produces 225 watts.  A 4 to 1 cost savings.  So you can get a lot more watts 
 per dollar by getting a large panel.  Though it is a 30 volt panel good for a 
 24/28 volt battery system.  You can still use it for a 12v system by charging 
 the batteries in series and using them in parallel or getting a 24VDC to 
 12VDC converter available at any truck parts store.

 Bob, Wb4APR
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[amsat-bb] Re: Solar Power (I was wrong)

2009-10-02 Thread Joel Black
My simple math says it'll take almost 16 years to be reimbursed on a 
$30k system.

Initial outlay:  $30,000
US tax credit:  5%  (I guessed, I have no idea so this number could be 
high or low)
US reimbursement:  $1500 (this is not real money, but a reduction in 
taxable income)
Total:  $28,500 (realizing you *still* paid $30k out-of-pocket and only 
saw a $1500 savings in taxable income)
Savings per year:  $1800 (someone posted earlier that their friend 
realized a savings of ~$150 / month)
$30k / 1.8k = 15.83 years

One of the points of the post, I think, was to make ourselves less 
dependent on foreign oil, not, necessarily a savings in utility costs 
for the household.  The other point was to build and experiment.  So, if 
you want to build it and try it out, do so.

Personally, I do not think PV cells are that efficient.  To get the 
12VDC I need to power my remote, low-powered SCADA repeaters, I have to 
install PV cells that generate about 19 - 20 VDC and run them through 
charge controllers.  I've just lost more than 30% in generated 
electricity to heat.  I suppose I could investigate and have the company 
purchase more efficient PV cells, but I've been told numerous times, 
That's not your job.

Now, if someone could tell me how to do it more efficiently, I'm all ears.

73,
Joel, W4JBB

Jeff Yanko wrote:
 Hi Pete,

 FB on friends and their systems.  What will happen is since each state has 
 its own PUC, Public Utility Commission, and laws there will be 50 different 
 ways of handling how to reimburse, tax or otherwise garnish money from this 
 process.

 I've also been wondering.  Since a basic grid-tie system can cost from 
 $15,000 to $25,000, they only last so long.  Twenty years, tops maybe?  Do 
 they really pay for themselves, even wth tax credits, when you have to 
 replace them in say twenty years?


 73,

 Jeff  WB3JFS 
   - Original Message - 
   From: Pete Rowe 
   To: bruni...@usna.edu ; amsat-bb@amsat.org ; Jeff Yanko 
   Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:46 PM
   Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Solar Power (I was wrong)


 I've recently looked into PV home installations in California. 
 Unfortunately, here at least, the power company is only required to pay you 
 the WHOLESALE cost of electricity. This amounts to 3 to 4 cents per kw-hr. 
 Hence, most folks size their PV system to exactly meet their needs. I have 
 three friends who have had systems running for 3 years. You get credits from 
 the power company for the power you generated during the year. Then they even 
 up at the end of the year. If you made more electricity than you used, you 
 lose it. If you made less, then you owe them the difference. Since they have 
 sized the systems correctly, they owe very little money.
 One of my friends installed a water spray system to cool the panels 
 since they lose efficiency fast as the temperature goes up. Also, it doesn't 
 take much dust or bird poop to cut the efficiency. So if you install a 
 system, be prepared to get on the roof every month or so to clean the panels.

 Regards,
 Pete
 WA6WOA

 --- On Thu, 10/1/09, Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net wrote:


   From: Jeff Yanko wb3...@cox.net
   Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Solar Power (I was wrong)
   To: bruni...@usna.edu, amsat-bb@amsat.org
   Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 6:04 PM


   Interesting topic.  Here in the desert, Las Vegas, NV, I've seen a 
 few homes 
   with solar panels on their roofs.  Not a lot but a few here and 
 there. 
   Actually, I see more with roof heating systems for the pools than 
 anything 
   else.  However, I'm sure there are more out there than I'm seeing.  
 In any 
   case, a topic has risen about generating and selling power back to 
 the 
   utility company.taxes.  Some states are now implementing taxes 
 on 
   residential owners who generate and sell back their power to the 
 utility 
   company.  Pennsylvania happens to be one of them.  I believe the 
 standing is 
   if you sell back over 50,000 watts of power you will incur 
 additional taxes, 
   adding to your state personal income tax.  Apparantly, after 50,000 
 watts 
   your considered a generating or generator entity and are 
 subject to tax. 
   Lets say you were able to generate and sell back 100,000 watts to 
 the 
   utility company.  The first 50,000 watts would be free.  From 
 then on out, 
   it's taxed.  Not sure what rate they are or would be applying but 
 lets say 
   15 cents per KW. At 50,000 watts that would be $7.50.  Doesn't 
 sound like 
   much, then again 15 cents per KW is probably nowhere near what they 
 really 
   want.

   I believe you will see this happen more often as states look for 
 additional 
   revenue.


   73,

   Jeff  WB3JFS

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[amsat-bb] Re: broken links

2009-09-08 Thread Joel Black
I first started in amateur satellites back in the late '90's (I am just now
getting my station back in working order after a long hiatus).  You should
have seen the webpage then.  Today's is leaps and bounds ahead of the old
one.  As a matter-of-fact, I think you can peruse the old webpage here:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/AmsatHomeOld.html.

I got lots more information from the BB and from ANS.  I would look at the
ANS and figure out what birds I wanted to work, then I would go to the BB
and ask questions.  I also found that I learned a lot more if I just
investigated for myself on a lot of stuff.  I read articles in QST and the
AMSAT Journal.  Wow, there is still a plethora of information available.
You can even go to the archived BB articles on the old webpage (maybe the
new one too, I didn't dig that deeply).

I would be more than happy to Elmer someone in the West Alabama area or even
via email, but I'm afraid I may have as many questions as the person I'm
Elmering.  When I got started there was a guy here who was willing to Elmer
me, but I wanted to do it myself.  Granted, not everyone wants to do it
myself.

Someone mentioned starting an AMSAT wiki.  I think that would be a great
idea, but I am not sure how to go about starting something like that.
However, I'd be willing to contribute to something like that.

Short version, information is still out there, you just have to be willing
to dig through the gorilla dust to get to it.

73,
Joel, W4JBB

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Glen Zook gz...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The problem is that the volunteer function on the website hasn't been
 working for some time.

 I tried several times to volunteer in areas that I have expertise and the
 system would not take the information.  Finally, I gave up.

 Glen, K9STH
 AMSAT 239/LM 463

 Website:  http://k9sth.com


 --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Andrew Glasbrenner glasbren...@mindspring.com wrote:

 So who among you would like to volunteer to rewrite some of the articles
 and bring them up to date?



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[amsat-bb] Re: broken links

2009-09-08 Thread Joel Black
Alan,

Not sure what I can do, but I'll give a hand where I can.

73,
Joel/W4JBB

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Alan VE4YZ ve...@mts.net wrote:


 IMHO fixing the existing site is not the answer.

 If the executives will okay the use of a Wiki format, I am sure that 3 or 4
 of us can communicate off list to set up a group to install and administer
 a
 Wiki on another server.

 We can call it The SIG ( Satellite Interest Group ) or whatever for now.
 Any and All AMSAT members can then be registered to maintain the Wiki.  If
 the members and executive like the results it can be migrated to the AMSAT
 server.  It must include RSS, news feeds, and a forum in addition to all
 the
 stuff ( current or otherwise ) on the existing AMSAT site.

 The cost to this 3 or 4 person ( or more ) steering committee would be
 the
 registration of a name and a year on a web hosting service such as GoDaddy
 what runs a similar server a AMSAT's host.   Or, use the AMSAT hosting
 company.  So this small group would have to come up with less than one
 year's AMSAT membership to start this project.

 We use an Open Source Wiki, no more customized PHP like the current site
 that is high maintenance and really hard for anyone to get into the head of
 any former code whacker to modify or update.

 We need the AMSAT exec okay because there would be a lot of cut 'n paste of
 old stuff from the existing site into the pilot project where is would be
 available for updating a la Wiki.

 I don't do this for a living, I do maintain a couple of club web sites, but
 I bet we have a member reading this who is a professional web-whacker who
 might oversee the team and keep us from making dumb decisions such as
 choosing the wrong open source wiki to being with.

 That's my 2 cents and just one warm body being offered for the effort.

 73, Alan VE4YZ
 EN19kv
 AMSAT LM 2352
 http://www.wincube.ca




 --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Andrew Glasbrenner glasbren...@mindspring.com wrote:

 So who among you would like to volunteer to rewrite some of the articles
 and
 bring them up to date?



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[amsat-bb] Re: broken links

2009-09-08 Thread Joel Black
Another two sites I really like reading on a daily basis are
www.slashdot.org and www.lifehacker.com.  What do y'all think.

I agree with Bill, it should be a community effort in case folks get burned
out or become unavailable.

73,
Joel/W4JBB

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Bill Ress b...@hsmicrowave.com wrote:

 Hi David.Good suggestion but the same old problem. Whose going to do
 it???

 Your Board knows the web site needs fixing . . . but whose going to
 volunteer to do the fixing. It was set up by volunteers who are no
 longer around to fix it.

 We sure hear about the problems, and the web site has its share. All
 these great solutions but no one willing to part of those solutions. But
 then, it's so much easier to point out the problems than it is to try
 and fix then.

 Now I understand it can be hard to find technical talent to volunteer to
 build a satellite but you would think it would be a whole lot easier to
 find a volunteer(s) that can handle web site management. But alas...it
 is not to be.

 Oh well, lets keep hitting the Board up side the head, like that will
 surely solve the problem.

 Any of this sinking in out there? You can bitch about the broken web
 site all you want but until we get a volunteer(s) to do the bloody
 work... well you know the story.

 Here's a crazy idea. How about you folks putting a team together to
 share the work so that one person isn't overwhelmed with a commitment to
 fix the problem. Aah - who am I kidding. They'll be no response to that
 either.

 Regards...Bill - N6GHz

 David Bate wrote:
   How about setting up a wiki style setup and have everyone contribute
   updates and so on. So no one person is tied down doing all the updates.
  
   On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:39:48 -0400, Tim - N3TL n...@bellsouth.net
 wrote:
  
   John and all,
  
   No disrespect intended to anyone - but I found myself exactly in the
   place you described in June of last year. The AMSAT Web site helped me
   way more than it hindered me. I dare say anyone who knows how to use
   Google or any search engine will find many sources of (likely) way
 more
   information than he or she will ever need to start working the
   satellites.
  
   None of this is to suggest that so many bad/out-of-date links is a
 good
   thing. I second Drew's response - who would like to step up and
   volunteer to help improve the organization and its Web site?
  
   73 to all,
  
   Tim - N3TL
  


 David Bate wrote:
  How about setting up a wiki style setup and have everyone contribute
  updates and so on. So no one person is tied down doing all the updates.
 
  On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:39:48 -0400, Tim - N3TL n...@bellsouth.net
 wrote:
 
  John and all,
 
  No disrespect intended to anyone - but I found myself exactly in the
  place you described in June of last year. The AMSAT Web site helped me
  way more than it hindered me. I dare say anyone who knows how to use
  Google or any search engine will find many sources of (likely) way more
  information than he or she will ever need to start working the
  satellites.
 
  None of this is to suggest that so many bad/out-of-date links is a good
  thing. I second Drew's response - who would like to step up and
  volunteer to help improve the organization and its Web site?
 
  73 to all,
 
  Tim - N3TL
 
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[amsat-bb] Antenna Question

2009-07-04 Thread Joel Black
Happy Independence Day.

Does anyone recognize the following antennas?  I purchased them years 
ago and they were part of a system I never installed.  Over the years, 
one of the elements has been damaged and, even though I can fix it 
myself, I'd like to know who made these.

Doggonit, I cannot upload to my webpage (something else yet to figure 
out).  Suffice it to say, my description may not do the antennas 
justice.  There are two of them, a 2m and 70cm made out of sched 40 
PVC.  They appear to be a turnstile type antenna with two aluminum 
elements at the top and two at the  bottom 90° out of phase from each 
other (top and bottom).  In other words, if looking at a compass, the 
top two elements would be at N and S, the bottom two at E and W.  This 
is the same on both antennas as they are a matching set.

These antennas were in an old QST, but I have since gotten rid of all 
those magazines and cannot find the article online.  Any ideas or 
suggestions?

Tnx,
Joel, W4JBB


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[amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Question

2009-07-04 Thread Joel Black
That's them.  Thanks, George and, David, I got the dog off the webpage.  ;)

Tnx,
Joel, W4JBB

George Henry wrote:
 Sounds like the QHTennas, made by N4QH.  Reviewed in QST in 2005, then he 
 stopped producing them just a few months later.
 Near as I could figure out, they are a conventional turnstile design, but 
 with the 2 dipoles separated by the length of the phasing line, and no 
 reflector.

 George, KA3HSW


 - Original Message - 
 From: Joel Black jbbl...@charter.net
 To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:50 AM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna Question


 Happy Independence Day.

 Does anyone recognize the following antennas?  I purchased them years
 ago and they were part of a system I never installed.  Over the years,
 one of the elements has been damaged and, even though I can fix it
 myself, I'd like to know who made these.

 Doggonit, I cannot upload to my webpage (something else yet to figure
 out).  Suffice it to say, my description may not do the antennas
 justice.  There are two of them, a 2m and 70cm made out of sched 40
 PVC.  They appear to be a turnstile type antenna with two aluminum
 elements at the top and two at the  bottom 90° out of phase from each
 other (top and bottom).  In other words, if looking at a compass, the
 top two elements would be at N and S, the bottom two at E and W.  This
 is the same on both antennas as they are a matching set.

 These antennas were in an old QST, but I have since gotten rid of all
 those magazines and cannot find the article online.  Any ideas or
 suggestions?

 Tnx,
 Joel, W4JBB


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