[amsat-bb] LoTW?
Anyone else having issues getting into LoTW? Zack KD8KSN ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LoTW
Hi all, My logs are all current on LoTW. I am beginning to see new calls for my satellite contacts showing up. Still like them old fashion paper cards though. I will continue to upload every evening after the last pass. 73, Bob AJ5C ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LOTW
I have been using LOTW and eQSL for over a year now. And it appears some are just entering their contacts now since it supports VUCC. I enter my contacts manually and sometimes I make a mistake when transferring from paper to electronic. So if anyone gets a rejection of my call, don't hesitate to drop me an email. Jim KE4KOL ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LOTW
Went through no problem Good Deal!!! Pretty easy like I said I was discouraged for a long time but now I am glad I tried it. Now can I search for stuff others have uploaded that I may not have logged and match theirs??? Kevin KF7MYK ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Lotw
Hi all, All my contacts for HI4/AJ5C have been uploaded to Lotw under that call. They have also been uploaded to Eqsl. Paper QSL's are due in next week and will have them out shortly thereafter. 73, Bob Herrell AJ5C ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] lotw
i have decided to try lotw again after using it in 2003 and having a miserable time with it. i need to find someone that i have had a satellite qso with that has uploaded their log so i can change that record or two and then see if i get a match before i try to modify each of my 6500 satellite contacts. it is going to take me a long time to go through and change each record to match the lotw criteria and will take me a long long time. want to make sure it is correct before i start logging new contacts. i have never found much use in lotw as all my contacts are confirmed by qsl card. not sure why i want to go through the exercise but what the heck. i think band is 2m, 70cm, 13cm (which is for the rx frequency) mode fm or ssb satname is so50, ao51, ao27 etc prop mode is sat anything else have to be changed (i have only logged the rx frequency, not the tx frequency) 73...bruce -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards ARRL Awards Manager (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LoTW
I just completed uploading all my satellite QSO's to LOTW, 1993-2001. I only did a handful of satellite contacts after that with my HT which I also uploaded. It took a little bit of programming to convert the old storage locations of data (pre-LoTW) to the LoTW fields. I even uploaded my trips to EL39/EM30, EL19/EM10, FN21 and EM99. As there was no really great program that would allow changing all the necessary fields, I used Macro Express (which I use to automate my system). It allowed me to make mouse moves and clicks, change and massage text (AO10, AO13, AO27 to AO-10, AO-13, AO-27, etc) and add the prop mode which were never in existence when I started logging. Then I setup a VUCC account in my LoTW account. How many matched QSO's? 193 How many Grids for Satellite VUCC? 40 After loading the 6,000 QSO's, I checked back in about 15 minutes and had only matched 55 QSO's. When I checked the next day, there were the 193 matches. Guess LoTW takes a bit of time to run your matches. Maybe when I check back tomorrow, there will be more Grid matches as I just created the VUCC account. That really is not a bad match percentage since many hams have since become SK and many have reached the age of non-operating. Also, those back then used either paper or early logging programs which have not been converted to LoTW format and uploaded. I gained no new DXCC entities. Unsure if I have any new grids, I will have to take the paper receipts from the ARRL and manually check them. 73...bruce -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards ARRL Awards Manager (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LoTW
i had so much fun the past few weeks loading all my satellite qso's up on lotw that i thought i would do it for my daughter's (w5bts) log. i just finished loading her 520 satellite qso's from 2000-2003 and she wound up with 19 matches. of those, 2 had cards sent with no return, 3 never had cards requested as they were dupes for grids or states, etc. the rest were all confirmed with qsl cards. did not expect a big return as lotw was not around then and it is a lot of work to convert a log to the proper format. 73...bruce -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards ARRL Awards Manager (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LoTW troubles
Although the LoTW FAQ shows "ARISS" and "AO-7" as the valid satellite names, TQSL bounced all of my QSOs for those two for "Invalid Satellite Name"... I looked in the ADIF file, and the Sat_Name fields are all correct, and it processed all of my other QSOs successfully. I also tried "ISS" and "AO-07", and it bounced those, as well. Any hints? George, KA3HSW ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LoTW VUCC
A bit late for me, but here is what the ARRL LoTW page says today: "Dec 22, 2010: VUCC Award Support Testing -- VUCC support is being installed and tested. When this upgrade is implemented, amateurs can use LoTW to apply for awards based on Maidenhead grid squares, such as VUCC and the Fred Fish Memorial Award." 73 de Sebastian, W4AS ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LoTW Questions
Hi All, I am trying to get myself going on LoTW, and I need to know what the generally excepted parameters are for QSO information. 1) In my logbook (HRD), what should I put for the freq. (2m, 440)? 2) What happens if my log entry is one minute off of stations B’s entry (1906z versus 1905z) – will they match up? 3) What should my mode be set at (FM, SAT)? 4) Other than date, time, call, mode, sent RST, rcvd RST, band and name (op name), is there anything that needs to be added to it when I go to upload? This was the default LoTW selection for HRD, so I am assuming it is correct. I can’t think of any other questions at the moment, but any other helpful tips for getting it started would be appreciated. 73! Zack KD8KSN ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LoTW Questions
Excellent link Scott.. ..and, unless I'm missing something' It proves that LoTW does not care if it sees whether or not the 'TX' frequency is 2m or 440 or whatever. LoTW wants to see the proper SAT name and the correct propagation in the 'propagation' adif field. (along with the other parameters) What anyone chooses to put in their paper or other log as to TX freq is of no concern to LoTW 73, K7TRK -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Scott Armstrong Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:26 PM To: gary_mayfi...@hotmail.com; zack.kd8...@hotmail.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LoTW Questions For a data match to occur, both QSOs date/time (in UTC) must be within 30 minutes of each other. Here's the link to the LOTW info that spells out what constitutes a data match. https://p1k.arrl.org/lotw/faq#datamatch Scott AA5AM > From: gary_mayfi...@hotmail.com > To: zack.kd8...@hotmail.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:52:00 -0600 > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LoTW Questions > > The ARRL does a nice job of spelling out the parameters here: > http://www.arrl.org/files/file/LoTW%20Instructions/N5JB.pdf > > The band that matters ( according to the ARRL ) is the band you transmit on, not the band you receive on. > > Here is the data you need to log the contact and have it count in LOTW > > [The Station You Worked] > [MMDD] > [HHMMSS] in utc > [The band you transmitted on] > [SSB, CW, FM, etc.] > SAT > [The bird you used] > > > Please note it is VERY unforgiving as far as entries go. Things must be spelled correctly! The [] above should not be included. I have yet to hear the exact allowable clock difference, but I'm sure it is several minutes at least. > > 73, > Joe kk0sd > > -Original Message- > From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Zachary Beougher > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:11 PM > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW Questions > > Hi All, > > I am trying to get myself going on LoTW, and I need to know what the generally excepted parameters are for QSO information. > > 1) In my logbook (HRD), what should I put for the freq. (2m, 440)? > > 2) What happens if my log entry is one minute off of stations B's entry (1906z versus 1905z) - will they match up? > > 3) What should my mode be set at (FM, SAT)? > > 4) Other than date, time, call, mode, sent RST, rcvd RST, band and name (op name), is there anything that needs to be added to it when I go to upload? This was the default LoTW selection for HRD, so I am assuming it is correct. > > I can't think of any other questions at the moment, but any other helpful tips for getting it started would be appreciated. > > 73! > > Zack > KD8KSN > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LoTW Questions
Jim, there is a 'bulk editor' in the HRD Logbook. Look in the 'more' button. You will need to isolate your sat log, highlight all the entries, then go to the bulk editor and add or change fields for the entire log. The instructions are in the 'bulk editor' window. It's a little sketchy on how it works but also somewhat intuitive. I was able to add 'satellite' in the propagation field to all my contacts. Check it out as it may save some time( I do not remember exactly how I did it so can't be of much help on that. I just know it will work for you) GL Ted K7TRK -Original Message- Is anyone else using HRD for logging? I am and after entering the mode as Satellite, I have to load the database into Microsoft Access and edit the mode field from Satellite to SAT. Then LOTW will accept it. Zach, You might want to use MS Access to mass change the field of the mode to SAT. Jim Ke4kol -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Zachary Beougher Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:45 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LoTW Questions Hi Gary, Thanks for the reply - that helps me get a better understanding of how it works. I have never entered the propagation mode into HRD, so I would have to manually go through and update each entry (329 since Oct. 24), so I think I am going to update and upload only my portable operation QSOs DATED AFTER Oct. 24 (when I started using HRD instead of paper). This would encompass the EN80/EM89 operation on Oct. 30, EN70vb operation on Nov. 30, EN90/EM99 operation on Dec. 17, 2010 and again on Jan. 29, 2011. If someone needs my home grid (EN80) confirmed via LoTW, send me an email off list and I will update the propagation mode and upload that as well. I just can't see spending all of that time to make a change to all of those entries. From now on I will enter "satellite" as the propagation mode, and then I will upload both portable and non-portable QSOs. I did read in the instructions about how you could cut and paste the changed in the ADIF file, but after trying that it would take just as long to make the changes in HRD. 73! Zack KD8KSN -Original Message- From: Gary "Joe" Mayfield Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:52 PM To: 'Zachary Beougher' ; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] LoTW Questions The ARRL does a nice job of spelling out the parameters here: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/LoTW%20Instructions/N5JB.pdf The band that matters ( according to the ARRL ) is the band you transmit on, not the band you receive on. Here is the data you need to log the contact and have it count in LOTW [The Station You Worked] [MMDD] [HHMMSS] in utc [The band you transmitted on] [SSB, CW, FM, etc.] SAT [The bird you used] Please note it is VERY unforgiving as far as entries go. Things must be spelled correctly! The [] above should not be included. I have yet to hear the exact allowable clock difference, but I'm sure it is several minutes at least. 73, Joe kk0sd -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Zachary Beougher Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:11 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW Questions Hi All, I am trying to get myself going on LoTW, and I need to know what the generally excepted parameters are for QSO information. 1) In my logbook (HRD), what should I put for the freq. (2m, 440)? 2) What happens if my log entry is one minute off of stations B's entry (1906z versus 1905z) - will they match up? 3) What should my mode be set at (FM, SAT)? 4) Other than date, time, call, mode, sent RST, rcvd RST, band and name (op name), is there anything that needs to be added to it when I go to upload? This was the default LoTW selection for HRD, so I am assuming it is correct. I can't think of any other questions at the moment, but any other helpful tips for getting it started would be appreciated. 73! Zack KD8KSN ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via
[amsat-bb] LOTW Help
Is there anyone intersted in helping me with LOTW? I did all the requirements, do I upload all my qso's individually? and how do I know if the other guy is going to do the same? Maybe someone on here could do an old qso we have together and I could see how it works? Thanks for any help! :) Kevin KF7MYK ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LOTW-Sats-AClog
Anyone help me figure out how to post a sat contact to LOTW from AcLOG; have spoken to both ARRL and AcLOG folks was like duh? ARRL is asking for fields that seem like duplicates to me, RX freq, RX Bandpropagation mode, mode...and they are not available in AcLOG. Any help appreciated. May just stick with cards. John N4NAB ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LoTW & HO-68
Any body know why LOTW will not accept HO-68 as a sat name? Larry W7IN ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LOTW and eQSL
I agree with Jack and Tim, LOTW is great (albeit more complicated than it needs to be). For those who do not like the fees and complexities of LOTW, I'd like to remind everyone of eQSL, which is a cheaper and simpler supplement to LOTW. It's simpler because most logging programs will automatically upload your QSOs to eQSL, you don't have to do a thing. It's cheaper because it's free. The eQSLs are not valid for ARRL awards, but they are valid for CQ Magazine awards and for eQSLs own awards. The eGrid Sat award may be particularly interesting to those on this list. It requires 75 confirmed grids for the basic award. The certificate is free to download, or you can get a nice plaque, if you are willing to pay $85 for it. I use and recommend both eQSL and LOTW. 73, Bill NZ5N > From: "Jack/W6NF" > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [VHF] Re: Re: VUCC costs > To: Tim Marek > Cc: "Amsat-Bb@Amsat. Org" , > VHF REFLECTOR > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Yes, I agree with Tim wholeheartedly. > > Paper cards are nice (I have a few from my Novice days in > 1957) but I, like > many others, cannot afford the expense. I *do* QSL 100% > when a card is sent > to me but LoTW is fine, too. To summarily reject LoTW, to > invoke Mr. Spock, > not logical ;>) ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LOTW & VUCC Discussion
We now know more about the VUCC fee changes than we did when the discussion started thanks to comments by Bill Moore and others. As someone stated, the sticker shock has everyone upset. If the costs of the VUCC program justify what is being charged, there's not much you can do about it unless you find someone in addition to Yaesu to sponsor the program. The money has to come from somewhere. As Americans, we are painfully aware of what happens when you spend more than you take in. The League should have been adjusting rates over the years. The Post Office, our government and businesses all do this gradually to avoid a rebellion. If this had been done, we wouldn't be having such a big outcry right now. I think the other problem with how this was done involved notification. Announcing that effective today, the cost for VUCC submissions is going up drastically, was not a good move. Rolling out the costs for LOTW VUCC submissions is one thing, but including the traditional filing rates as part of it without publishing an "effective date" ahead of time is another matter. It wasn't well thought out. Now that it is done, how do we proceed from here? I think there are two main issues that can be looked at by the Directors. They control what happens at the League. My Director has been very responsive to things that I have brought to him. I hope your Director is equally as responsive. Just make sure that when writing to them that you don't rant. State the facts and be specific as to what you want them to do. The first thing they should look at is the cost of the VUCC program. Bill Moore has suggested that they don't even break even considering everything involved. Ask your Director to get the numbers and validate the claim. Any evaluation should include monies derived from the website. Yaesu sponsors LOTW but it is unclear as to what extent they do. There may be other sources of funding as well. As a subset of the cost, ask your Director to find out why hybird applications are part of the DXCC LOTW program but are not provided for in the VUCC program. After all, it's the same system. I would expect that we will always be submitting some cards along with LOTW matches. Most of the cost of a paper submission is subsidized by the card checkers. It takes a lot of time to scrutinize a card to find the Grid. After the initial application, only the Grid numbers are sent to the ARRL. A typist can enter 4 character grids into a computer very quickly. Callsigns, date, time, band, etc. are not entered for VUCC. If you send your cards to the ARRL and a paid employee has to go through the cards, the cost is significantly higher than if a volunteer does it. Hybrid applications for a single filing fee should be part of VUCC as they are now for DXCC. The ARRL Membership was not given a warning about the fee increases. Establishing the fees for LOTW VUCC is one thing. Increasing the fees for paper submissions should have had an effective date into the future. This would allow those who were on the verge of filing the opportunity to do so at the current rate. Ask your Director to have the old paper fees reinstated until say, May 1st. This will give the applicants and the volunteer card checkers some time to process everything. If the new fees are found to be reasonable they go into effect after that date. I have been licensed for 50 years and prior to getting my license I was involved with ham radio for more than 10 years. I attended many club meetings with my older cousin. The topic of dissatisfaction with the ARRL was always a big deal. The hams talked about it all the time. But if you think that we would be where we are now with Ham Radio if the ARRL had not been there representing our interests, you are sadly mistaken. Radio spectrum is always in demand. You can't make more of it. You can digitize and process till you are blue in the face but there is never enough spectrum. Cellphones sound lousy because they don't have enough bandwidth. But we put up with it because they are portable and there is no other choice given the number of users. If the ARRL had not been there for us, we would all be on 80 meters. The League is our voice. If you don't like what they are doing, contact your Director or run for the position yourself. Ham Radio is a hobby but there are costs involved. You can choose what you want to spend. No one is forcing you. But do consider that we need the ARRL to preserve ham radio into the future. It takes money to run the organization and we are up against others who have very deep pockets. Supporting the ARRL makes good sense as does supporting AMSAT. They are our advocates. 73, John K8YSE ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LOTW & VUCC Discussion
Good evening John and the group, Against my better judgment, but after thinking about your thoughtful memo, I am going to reply to several points. (also, in the interest of full disclosure, I will admit to you being my original 'satellite' Elmer, just about a year or so ago. (i.e., its all your fault !!) As to the ARRL, there really cannot be much doubt that they are a classic example of an anachronistic organization. It is a classic example of a top-down organization where the 'top is the top' until they carry you out the door on a gurney and to the Newington morgue. As for Division Directors, someone please point out ONE instance where these folks made any change whatsoever on behalf of the members. A free plane ride to Hartford does not count. Your point about the 'no notice' regarding the fee increase is right on point! Again, something like this is really a slap in the face to those of us that send in our $50.00 or so each year. Now, the critical issue here is really LoTW. Unless I'm missing something, LoTW is a software program. Is the ARRL seriously, I mean seriously, suggesting that this program cannot keep track of all of our contacts, etc., etc. without some human getting their hands in the process? I submit that the next 'Young Ham of The Year' could probably do the programming in between texting the pizza place! To charge the members for 'electronic entries' to the program is onerous. The obvious comparison is, of course, eQSL.cc, the 'QSO' stepchild'. That organization seems to have no problem doing all the machinations, scoring, black magic, etc. without hardly a burp ! (some question the credibility of eQSL but that is another subject) Let us face facts. The LoTW process is cumbersome and convoluted. There are minimal instructions on the site and this has put off people from attempting to up load logs. The big pitch from the ARRL (and a classic example of their BIAS against eQSL, is the implied credibility of the system. Does anyone really doubt that if someone wanted to cheat about getting an award that that person could not have a hundred cards in the mail to ARRL Monday morning? Get real. The entire 'paper chase' is based on trust among our community. I am not putting an award on my shack wall that is phony. (if anyone is going to get .20 cents a card, it should be the volunteer card checkers, not the fat cats at ARRL) Bottom line: The LoTW process is flawed. ARRL is trying to impose excessive fees on its membership for those flaws. The members need to wake up and challenge the process. (an equivalent VUCC Satellite Award from AMSAT has been suggested - GOOD IDEA) Lastly, John is correct, in that ARRL does protect our interests and this type of organization is necessary to protect our interests. ARRL, just don't put your front hand out asking for funds for 'spectrum defense' BPL fights, etc. and then put your other hand in my wallet for an 8 x 10 award paper. Respectfully submitted, Ted, K7TRK From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Papay Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:32 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] LOTW & VUCC Discussion We now know more about the VUCC fee changes than we did when the discussion started thanks to comments by Bill Moore and others. As someone stated, the sticker shock has everyone upset. If the costs of the VUCC program justify what is being charged, there's not much you can do about it unless you find someone in addition to Yaesu to sponsor the program. The money has to come from somewhere. As Americans, we are painfully aware of what happens when you spend more than you take in. The League should have been adjusting rates over the years. The Post Office, our government and businesses all do this gradually to avoid a rebellion. If this had been done, we wouldn't be having such a big outcry right now. I think the other problem with how this was done involved notification. Announcing that effective today, the cost for VUCC submissions is going up drastically, was not a good move. Rolling out the costs for LOTW VUCC submissions is one thing, but including the traditional filing rates as part of it without publishing an "effective date" ahead of time is another matter. It wasn't well thought out. Now that it is done, how do we proceed from here? I think there are two main issues that can be looked at by the Directors. They control what happens at the League. My Director has been very responsive to things that I have brought to him. I hope your Director is equally as responsive. Just make sure that when writing to them that you don't rant. State the facts and be specific as to what you want them to do. The first thing they should look at is the cost of the VUCC program. Bill Moore has suggested that they don't even break even considering eve
[amsat-bb] LoTW & SO-67
All 48 of my SO-67 contacts have been uploaded to LoTW. 73, Bob AJ5C ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LOTW reg outside US
I'm trying to validate my callsign on LOTW however to do this, as I am outside the US I need to mail some supporting documents. The help file directs me to https://www.arrl.org/lotw/docreq however this url does not exist! Can anyone tell me where I need to send the supporting documents? Thanks Pete ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LoTW and HO-68
It seems that ARRL finally brought together a team of crack software engineers to edit the satellite config file in Logbook of the World so it would accept QSO's made on HO-68. Unfortunately, it looks they did not have enough keystrokes available to also add SO-67. Perhaps next year... John - VE8EV ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LOTW Grid vs. Call
Apparently I was doing something wrong. I now see the same station from different grid squares for a couple of calls. I believe it is working just as it should. 73, Joe kks0d ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LOTW - improperly coded satellite contacts?
Hi, I just upload several hundred sat contacts to LOTW. Many matches were returned, BUT many of them were credited for "VUCC 144 mhz" or "VUCC 432 mhz" and NOT for "VUCC Satellite", which is how they should be credited. Does this mean that the person on the other side of the QSO did not properly encode the log entry as a satellite QSO? Or is there some glitch in the LOTW program? I would have guessed that, if I encoded the QSO as Satellite and the guy on the other side did not, it would not show as a match at all. Anyone know how this is handled? 73, Bill NZ5N ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LoTW Support of HO-68
Any news on if LoTW will support HO-68? I've emailed the ARRL but haven't heard anything back. -Reid ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LoTW and ISS Digipeater Contacts
I'm now logging all my satellites contacts and trying to upload them every couple of days to the ARRL Logbook of the World (LoTW). So far, so good with just over 25 grids confirmed via LoTW. Only hitch so far is when I tried to upload my two digital contacts, made using packet through the ISS digipeater. I'm using VOLog and it has a field for satellite data. I logged the ISS as the satellite and V/V as the satellite mode. LoTW rejected those two QSOs, and a quick check with the TQSL editor revealed that ISS was not considered a valid satellite. ARISS is listed, but I wasn't sure if that would be correct either. So--is it possible to upload ISS digital QSOs to LoTW for VUCC credit or not? If so, what is the correct method in terms of the log entry? I tried a Google search on the topic--but that only added to my confusion. Thanks--as always! -- -- 73, Les Rayburn, N1LF 121 Mayfair Park Maylene, AL 35114 EM63nf 6M VUCC #1712 AMSAT #38965 Grid Bandits #222 Southeastern VHF Society Central States VHF Society Life Member Six Club #2484 Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] LOTW Satellites from the Old Days
One of my winter projects is to get all of my OSCAR contacts back to 1989 in LOTW. Unfortunately, my older logs are not available. What are folks doing about contacts made on RS-10/11? My log book says RS-10/11 and LOTW wants either RS-10 or RS-11 and I really don't have a way to tell which? The same conundrum applies to RS-12/13, but it appears I logged most of them as RS-13 for some reason. Thanks and 73, Joe kk0sd ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
