Re: [android-developers] Re: SDK or some tool to develop a VERY simple Android game?

[Ryan S]

My idea is mostly educational games with simple UIs.
Will check out the three links on the page you sent me... any other tips and
advise is also most welcome!

Thanks!
Ryan

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:32 AM, oldskool73  wrote:

> you probably won't be using the ui stuff much if you're making a game
> so I wouldn't worry about that.
>
> I did a blog post about 3 of the popular Android games libs a while
> back, one of these should help...
>
>
> http://www.dustypixels.com/blog/2010/11/17/native-android-ogl-game-libraries-3-of-the-best/
>
> Adam
>
> On Feb 24, 10:16 pm, Ryan Stonn  wrote:
> > Oops!
> > This got buried in my Inbox, sorry for my late reply.
> >
> > Can you give me some links that you think would help since I am coming
> from
> > a "plain java" background?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Ryan
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Justin Anderson  >wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Well, you can't create the game in "plain" java because Android has its
> own
> > > UI classes... Really it depends on the type of game you are trying to
> > > create.
> >
> > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:13 AM, musicgu7  wrote:
> >
> > >> Hey!
> >
> > >> I am decent in Java and now I want to make a very simple android game,
> > >> would you recommend I do it in plain Java (I have never made a game in
> > >> java) or is there a tool like what these guys are promoting :
> > >>http://game-editor.com/Main_Page
> >
> > >> that you can recommend?
> >
> > >> Thanks!
> > >> Ryan
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Re: [android-developers] SDK or some tool to develop a VERY simple Android game?

[Ryan S]

Thanks for replying!
I have no knowledge of Python ;(
Java or PHP yes... infact I started using Java again just to get into
Android :((

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Harsh J  wrote:

> If Java isn't a strict requirement, perhaps you may want to try out
> the new Kivy MT libraries for Android (with Python): http://kivy.org
>
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Ryan Stonn 
> wrote:
> > Oops!
> > This got buried in my Inbox, sorry for my late reply.
> >
> > Can you give me some links that you think would help since I am coming
> from
> > a "plain java" background?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Ryan
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Justin Anderson 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Well, you can't create the game in "plain" java because Android has its
> >> own UI classes... Really it depends on the type of game you are trying
> to
> >> create.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:13 AM, musicgu7  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey!
> >>>
> >>> I am decent in Java and now I want to make a very simple android game,
> >>> would you recommend I do it in plain Java (I have never made a game in
> >>> java) or is there a tool like what these guys are promoting :
> >>> http://game-editor.com/Main_Page
> >>>
> >>> that you can recommend?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>> Ryan
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Re: [android-developers] Re: SDK or some tool to develop a VERY simple Android game?

[Ryan S]

Thanks Greg, Justin!

As you can understand each game is "super secret" but my game is so simple
that I am going to try to describe it to you:

Fixed background, x number of buttons below (depending on level), a bubble
with a symbol floats from the top to somewhere in the middle where there is
a pin... if you hit the correct button before the bubble reaches the pin you
get a point and the bubble explodes, if it falls and hits the pin (and
explodes) first it's game over.

Each level change the background and make the bubble fall faster.

How many games do you know of that is as simple to describe :))

The reason I am willing to so openly discuss the game is because its for a
very niche bunch of us and will mostly be used internally - pretty sure
theres not much commercial opportunity here. I was hoping to learn enough
here to go on to more advanced stuff.

I've also downloaded SAM's teach yourself android in 24hrs, I think I'll
read up on that a bit then jump into the links that you guys provided so it
wont be as intimidating for a newbie like me.

Cheers!
R

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Justin Giles  wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:53 AM, Ryan S  wrote:
>
>> My idea is mostly educational games with simple UIs.
>> Will check out the three links on the page you sent me... any other tips
>> and advise is also most welcome!
>>
>>
> If it is educational games with simple UIs, I'd recommend attempting it
> with the standard UI stuff with custom graphics.  You'd be surprised at how
> much you can accomplish with the standard UI stuff, especially if the UIs
> are fairly simple.  A lot less overhead in regards to learning a specific
> game engine.  It will also allow you to get a better understanding of how
> Android works.
>
> If you are coming from a standard Java background, you already know the
> language, all you need to do is get a full understanding of the Activity
> process and the various UI elements.
>
> Make sure you understand this:
> http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals/activities.html
>
> It basically outlines from beginning to end of the application process from
> load to destroying it.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> Justin
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[android-developers] (Newbie warning) Adding one of the sample projects to Eclipse

[Ryan S]

Hey!

I am learning Android development via a book and one of the exercises it
mentions is to
 "Add to your Eclipse workspace one of the Android sample projects provided
with the Android SDK. Browse through the project files and then create a run

configuration and launch the sample application in the emulator."

I'm confused as to how to do this, can someone please walk me through this?

Thanks in advance!
Ryan

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Re: [android-developers] (Newbie warning) Adding one of the sample projects to Eclipse

[Ryan S]

I did not elaborate because pretty much the whole thing.


I mean I click on File->import->General->Existing projects into
workspace->next, browsed to C:\Program Files
(x86)\Android\android-sdk\samples\android-11 and clicked ok...
but then it says "no projects were found to import" :(

Confused...



On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 5:11 AM, TreKing  wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Ryan S  wrote:
>
>> I'm confused as to how to do this
>
>
> Which part?
>
>
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Re: [android-developers] (Newbie warning) Adding one of the sample projects to Eclipse

[Ryan S]

Ok, went one further to:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\samples\android-11\Snake

Still same message :(
"No projects were found to import"

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 5:25 AM, Justin Giles  wrote:

> You need to go one more directory further and select one of the sample
> project directories, such as "Snake".
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Ryan S  wrote:
>
>> I did not elaborate because pretty much the whole thing.
>>
>>
>> I mean I click on File->import->General->Existing projects into
>> workspace->next, browsed to C:\Program Files
>> (x86)\Android\android-sdk\samples\android-11 and clicked ok...
>> but then it says "no projects were found to import" :(
>>
>> Confused...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 5:11 AM, TreKing  wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Ryan S  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm confused as to how to do this
>>>
>>>
>>> Which part?
>>>
>>>
>>> -
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>>> transit tracking app for Android-powered devices
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Re: [android-developers] (Newbie warning) Adding one of the sample projects to Eclipse

[Ryan S]

Ah!
That worked! Thanks!

If my questions are too much of newbie questions for this group (it feels
like it is) can anybody suggest a forum for total newbs like me to get basic
answers to my questions?

Thanks!
Ryan

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 5:52 AM, TreKing  wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Ryan S  wrote:
>
>> Ok, went one further to:
>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\samples\android-11\Snake
>>
>> Still same message :(
>>
>> "No projects were found to import"
>>
>
> File -> New -> Project -> Android Project -> Create Project From Existing
> Source -> Browse to Snake.
>
>
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Re: [android-developers] Re: GOOGLE TO BAN PAYPAL?!

[Ryan S]

For someone like me just starting on chapter 3 of a "Learn Android" book
this has been a very educational, enlightening... and frightening thread :(

The reason I came into Android is because I have a background in Java and
didn't want to get stuck with Apple's iron first crap (CrApple)
Looks like there is plenty of other kind of crap here :(


On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Kevin TeslaCoil Software <
ke...@teslacoilsw.com> wrote:

> > I cannot think of another enterprise that earns that much
> > money from you and won't support you.
>
> It's especially funny (? not the right word for it) when compared to
> our users. We write apps that the user pays $1 or $2 for and then
> demands customer support and updates for the rest of their lives. The
> Google Market provides a service and takes 30% of our income, but
> doesn't even provide a method of contacting support. 1 star.
>
> Like TreKing, I'm very appreciative of Dianne, Romain and others
> Android developers that regularly post and help with Android
> development. I'm always happy when I'm googling for help on something
> and come across a post by one of them as I know it'll be interesting
> and detailed.
>
> -Kevin
>
> On Feb 26, 9:33 pm, Zsolt Vasvari  wrote:
> > +100
> >
> > The fact that Google takes 30% of sales, which, for my app, is well
> > into 5 digits/yr and you cannot get any kind of support, is
> > despicable.  I cannot think of another enterprise that earns that much
> > money from you and won't support you.
> >
> > Hopefully, when the Amazon Market goes up and running, it will provide
> > competition to the Android Market and this will all improve, but I am
> > not holding my breath.
> >
> > On Feb 27, 10:44 am, TreKing  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Dianne Hackborn  >wrote:
> >
> > > > Have you tried going to the Market support forum?
> >
> > > >
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/label?lid=7dc8a5...
> >
> > > > There are people from Market support answering questions there.
> >
> > > LOL - Seriously? With all due respect Dianne, have you actually been
> over
> > > there? I spend about as much time there as I do here and I assure you,
> there
> > > is ***no one*** from the Market team answering *anything* over there.
> There
> > > was a time when you could count on "Dontae" to at least chime in with a
> > > bulls*** canned "we're looking into it" response, but in the last like
> 6
> > > months or so I have not seen a single response from a Google Employee
> in
> > > that "support" forum.
> >
> > > Sometimes, if you win a lottery, they'll respond to direct developer
> support
> > > requests when major stuff breaks (like the stats that are always
> > > breaking). But no one, and I mean NO ONE, from the Market has ever
> taken
> > > even 5 seconds to answer questions only someone from Google could
> answer,
> > > like the points of the TOS discussed here (and this issue has come up
> quite
> > > a few times).
> >
> > > At least AFAIK - if you happen to know where these types of questions
> have
> > > been answered, I'm sure we'd all like to know where to go look.
> >
> > > I mean, look at what you, Romain, Xavier, and others do here: spending
> your
> > > own free time helping us out wherever you can with issues others can't.
> I
> > > presume you all do this because you care about the product and want us
> to
> > > have a good experience using it. That's why it truly boggles my mind
> that
> > > not a single individual on the Market Team gives enough of a damn about
> > > *their* product to respond to even a single post.
> >
> > > So, unfortunately, the OP is absolutely correct. Support for the
> Android
> > > Market for both users and developers is essentially non-existent. And
> this
> > > lack of support (and for me personally the fact that no one on that
> team
> > > seems to give a damn) is the chief reason why so many developers have
> such a
> > > terrible perception of everything and anything that has to do with the
> > > Android Market.
> >
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