Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-11-20 Thread MobileVisuals
I tried with different notification durations, but it didn't make any 
difference. People still complained about the notifications. I have now 
implemented ad solutions from startapp and appbrain. I am using their 
solutions in some of my live wallpapers. These get around 1500 downloads 
each day. I am only getting about 8$  from startapp and 2$ from appbrain 
for all of these downloads. This is far too small, I got 300% better with 
notification commercials.

But I can't use push ads, cause they cause bad reviews and decrease the 
ratings. Does someone know a more effective way of monetizing live 
wallpapers? Please contact me about this in that case, I want to cooperate 
with a companies who have good solutions for this.



On Sunday, November 18, 2012 12:26:09 PM UTC+1, jitendra shah wrote:
>
>
>
>  what was the notification duration(or how many notification does your app 
> pushes around in a day) you used in your wallpaper?
> I added 2 notification a day and 1 for every reboot of phone.It worked but 
> still got some bad reviews...
>

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Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-11-19 Thread jitendra shah


 what was the notification duration(or how many notification does your app 
pushes around in a day) you used in your wallpaper?
I added 2 notification a day and 1 for every reboot of phone.It worked but 
still got some bad reviews...

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Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-10-30 Thread MobileVisuals
I have researched this during the previous months, but I can't find any 
profitable advertising solutions for live wallpapers.

Push ads and app icons are no longer allowed by Google, so they are not an 
option anymore.

The only available place to put ads in live wallpapers seem to be the 
settings screen. I have talked to several companies like Adsmobi, Tapit, 
Inneractive and Appbrain. They only have ad solutions for the settings 
screen. These are probably never profitable, since the settings screen is 
not used that much in a free live wallpaper. Our free live wallpapers have 
the options in the settings screen disabled and the users can buy the full 
versions to enable these options. I have implemented Appbrains solution, 
but it generated very small revenue, eventhough the downloads numbers were 
high. 

Does anyone know a profitable ad solution for live wallpapers? 




On Thursday, August 16, 2012 4:39:45 PM UTC+2, MobileVisuals wrote:
>
> I have researched this now and banner ads will not work for our live 
> wallpapers. All of our live wallpapers are hypnotic. The purpose of them is 
> to meditate while looking at the hypnotic animations. It would ruin the 
> whole purpose of them, to force people to look at banner ads at the same 
> time.  
>
> Notification ads would work, since they don't disturb the visual 
> experience of the live wallpapers. But they cause so many bad reviews, that 
> they decrease and damage the ratings. So we can't use notification ads.
>
> The only option left is the app icon ad format. I have tried this, but it 
> is not that profitable. It only generates  25% of the revenue that 
> notification ads generate. But they don't cause any bad reviews, so they 
> don't seem to disturb people that much.
>
> Does anyone know any other ad format that works for live wallpapers? I 
> mentioned Fireflies live wallpaper before, but I mistook this one for 
> another live wallpaper. So I have not seen any live wallpapers, which have 
> implemented banner ads in a succesful way.
>
>
>
> Den måndagen den 30:e juli 2012 kl. 15:19:29 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft:
>>
>> That's probably a better question for a marketing forum than a developer 
>> forum.
>>
>> On Monday, July 30, 2012 6:48:10 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote:
>>>
>>> I see, we plan to implement the same solution that Fireflies uses with a 
>>> transparent banner. Or do you think live wallpapers without ads will have 
>>> better chances at getting lots of downloads and being selected for the 
>>> "best new free apps" section?
>>>
>>> I just wonder, because our live wallpapers have performed much better on 
>>> SlideME than on Google play. One of our apps have been the most downloaded 
>>> live wallpaper on SlideME, but not of them have ever reached the top40 most 
>>> downloaded live wallpapers on Google Play, only the top100:(
>>>
>>> Den måndagen den 30:e juli 2012 kl. 01:17:50 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft:

 lol, I can just see the headlines now, "Google says apps with ads are 
 bad idea".

 I take back what I said about not building a business around live 
 wallpapers.  I didn't think people could make money with blogs when they 
 first started and a couple people got rich starting some highly successful 
 blogs, so anything is possible in this industry.

 MobileVisuals, it does sound like you answered your own question, 
 though.

 On Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:56:14 PM UTC-4, Dianne Hackborn wrote:
>
> This isn't Google's opinion, it is my opinion.
>
> If other people have found ways to do ads that work, then great.  As I 
> said, I am not morally opposed to it, this just isn't a design goal for 
> them.
>
> And it sounds like you see ways to do things that you think are 
> acceptable, so what are you looking for in your original question...?
>
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM, MobileVisuals <
> eyv...@astralvisuals.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for explaining Google's opinion on this! The free version of 
>> Fireflies live wallpaper seems to have an ad solution, which works well.
>> A transparent banner is shown at the top of the main screen for the 
>> live wallpaper. The reviews for the app are good and I don't see any 
>> complaints about the ad. I think it has been among the top40 most 
>> downloaded live wallapers.
>>
>> SlideME is the other big android appstore. The purchase to download 
>> rate here is almost 0%, so ad based free versions are the only solution 
>> for 
>> this appstore. One option is to have one free version without ads for 
>> Google play and and one version with ads for SlideME,but this would be 
>> time 
>> consuming.
>>
>> A purchase to download rate of 1% can be realistic on Google play. A 
>> company would get about 1$ if we the price is 1,5$. 100 000 free 
>> downloads 
>> each month on Google play would then be required to earn 1000$.

Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-08-16 Thread MobileVisuals
I have researched this now and banner ads will not work for our live 
wallpapers. All of our live wallpapers are hypnotic. The purpose of them is 
to meditate while looking at the hypnotic animations. It would ruin the 
whole purpose of them, to force people to look at banner ads at the same 
time.  

Notification ads would work, since they don't disturb the visual experience 
of the live wallpapers. But they cause so many bad reviews, that they 
decrease and damage the ratings. So we can't use notification ads.

The only option left is the app icon ad format. I have tried this, but it 
is not that profitable. It only generates  25% of the revenue that 
notification ads generate. But they don't cause any bad reviews, so they 
don't seem to disturb people that much.

Does anyone know any other ad format that works for live wallpapers? I 
mentioned Fireflies live wallpaper before, but I mistook this one for 
another live wallpaper. So I have not seen any live wallpapers, which have 
implemented banner ads in a succesful way.



Den måndagen den 30:e juli 2012 kl. 15:19:29 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft:
>
> That's probably a better question for a marketing forum than a developer 
> forum.
>
> On Monday, July 30, 2012 6:48:10 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote:
>>
>> I see, we plan to implement the same solution that Fireflies uses with a 
>> transparent banner. Or do you think live wallpapers without ads will have 
>> better chances at getting lots of downloads and being selected for the 
>> "best new free apps" section?
>>
>> I just wonder, because our live wallpapers have performed much better on 
>> SlideME than on Google play. One of our apps have been the most downloaded 
>> live wallpaper on SlideME, but not of them have ever reached the top40 most 
>> downloaded live wallpapers on Google Play, only the top100:(
>>
>> Den måndagen den 30:e juli 2012 kl. 01:17:50 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft:
>>>
>>> lol, I can just see the headlines now, "Google says apps with ads are 
>>> bad idea".
>>>
>>> I take back what I said about not building a business around live 
>>> wallpapers.  I didn't think people could make money with blogs when they 
>>> first started and a couple people got rich starting some highly successful 
>>> blogs, so anything is possible in this industry.
>>>
>>> MobileVisuals, it does sound like you answered your own question, though.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:56:14 PM UTC-4, Dianne Hackborn wrote:

 This isn't Google's opinion, it is my opinion.

 If other people have found ways to do ads that work, then great.  As I 
 said, I am not morally opposed to it, this just isn't a design goal for 
 them.

 And it sounds like you see ways to do things that you think are 
 acceptable, so what are you looking for in your original question...?

 On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM, MobileVisuals <
 eyv...@astralvisuals.com > wrote:

> Thanks for explaining Google's opinion on this! The free version of 
> Fireflies live wallpaper seems to have an ad solution, which works well.
> A transparent banner is shown at the top of the main screen for the 
> live wallpaper. The reviews for the app are good and I don't see any 
> complaints about the ad. I think it has been among the top40 most 
> downloaded live wallapers.
>
> SlideME is the other big android appstore. The purchase to download 
> rate here is almost 0%, so ad based free versions are the only solution 
> for 
> this appstore. One option is to have one free version without ads for 
> Google play and and one version with ads for SlideME,but this would be 
> time 
> consuming.
>
> A purchase to download rate of 1% can be realistic on Google play. A 
> company would get about 1$ if we the price is 1,5$. 100 000 free 
> downloads 
> each month on Google play would then be required to earn 1000$. Much less 
> downloads would be required to
> get as much revenue if the free versions has ads.
>
> Could really a business model of only purchases generate as much 
> revenue as purchases+ads? Maybe if removing the ads generated much more 
> downloads. But there are a lot of live wallpapers with ads, which are 
> getting lots of downloads, like Fireflies live wallpaper.
>
>
>
> Den fredagen den 27:e juli 2012 kl. 23:39:20 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft:
>
>> Yea, I don't think live wallpapers were meant as a thing to build a 
>> business around, unless you can sell a whole lot of them for $.99, which 
>> you might on iOS (if they had the functionality).
>>
>> www.filtrsoft.com
>>
>> On Friday, July 27, 2012 6:22:39 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote:
>>>
>>> Could you please explain why you think it is a terrible idea to mix 
>>> live wallpapers with advertising? 
>>>
>>> I have talked to several mobile advertising companies now and now 
>>> one has any other adver

Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-07-30 Thread FiltrSoft
That's probably a better question for a marketing forum than a developer 
forum.

On Monday, July 30, 2012 6:48:10 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote:
>
> I see, we plan to implement the same solution that Fireflies uses with a 
> transparent banner. Or do you think live wallpapers without ads will have 
> better chances at getting lots of downloads and being selected for the 
> "best new free apps" section?
>
> I just wonder, because our live wallpapers have performed much better on 
> SlideME than on Google play. One of our apps have been the most downloaded 
> live wallpaper on SlideME, but not of them have ever reached the top40 most 
> downloaded live wallpapers on Google Play, only the top100:(
>
> Den måndagen den 30:e juli 2012 kl. 01:17:50 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft:
>>
>> lol, I can just see the headlines now, "Google says apps with ads are bad 
>> idea".
>>
>> I take back what I said about not building a business around live 
>> wallpapers.  I didn't think people could make money with blogs when they 
>> first started and a couple people got rich starting some highly successful 
>> blogs, so anything is possible in this industry.
>>
>> MobileVisuals, it does sound like you answered your own question, though.
>>
>> On Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:56:14 PM UTC-4, Dianne Hackborn wrote:
>>>
>>> This isn't Google's opinion, it is my opinion.
>>>
>>> If other people have found ways to do ads that work, then great.  As I 
>>> said, I am not morally opposed to it, this just isn't a design goal for 
>>> them.
>>>
>>> And it sounds like you see ways to do things that you think are 
>>> acceptable, so what are you looking for in your original question...?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM, MobileVisuals <
>>> eyv...@astralvisuals.com> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for explaining Google's opinion on this! The free version of 
 Fireflies live wallpaper seems to have an ad solution, which works well.
 A transparent banner is shown at the top of the main screen for the 
 live wallpaper. The reviews for the app are good and I don't see any 
 complaints about the ad. I think it has been among the top40 most 
 downloaded live wallapers.

 SlideME is the other big android appstore. The purchase to download 
 rate here is almost 0%, so ad based free versions are the only solution 
 for 
 this appstore. One option is to have one free version without ads for 
 Google play and and one version with ads for SlideME,but this would be 
 time 
 consuming.

 A purchase to download rate of 1% can be realistic on Google play. A 
 company would get about 1$ if we the price is 1,5$. 100 000 free downloads 
 each month on Google play would then be required to earn 1000$. Much less 
 downloads would be required to
 get as much revenue if the free versions has ads.

 Could really a business model of only purchases generate as much 
 revenue as purchases+ads? Maybe if removing the ads generated much more 
 downloads. But there are a lot of live wallpapers with ads, which are 
 getting lots of downloads, like Fireflies live wallpaper.



 Den fredagen den 27:e juli 2012 kl. 23:39:20 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft:

> Yea, I don't think live wallpapers were meant as a thing to build a 
> business around, unless you can sell a whole lot of them for $.99, which 
> you might on iOS (if they had the functionality).
>
> www.filtrsoft.com
>
> On Friday, July 27, 2012 6:22:39 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote:
>>
>> Could you please explain why you think it is a terrible idea to mix 
>> live wallpapers with advertising? 
>>
>> I have talked to several mobile advertising companies now and now one 
>> has any other advertising solution for live wallpapers than push 
>> notifications. Is any one else here developing live wallpapers? If so, 
>> how 
>> are you managing the advertising in the live wallpapers?
>>
>> Den onsdagen den 25:e juli 2012 kl. 19:10:12 UTC+2 skrev Dianne 
>> Hackborn:
>>>
>>> Mixing live wallpapers with attempts at advertising seems like a 
>>> terrible idea to me.  Have you considering instead trying something 
>>> like 
>>> in-app billing to allow users to unlock features in your app?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:12 AM, MobileVisuals <
>>> eyv...@astralvisuals.com> wrote:
>>>
 Is there any other way to advertise in live wallpapers than push 
 notifications? My company is using push notifications. This pays off 
 well, 
 but it also results in some bad reviews.I got this suggestion from 
 another 
 company:

 o Create a welcome page (name of the company, some app’s 
 information)

 o Call for a Full screen ad with go and skip button

 o The go button will generate a click and transfer the user to the 
 add
>>

Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-07-30 Thread MobileVisuals
I see, we plan to implement the same solution that Fireflies uses with a 
transparent banner. Or do you think live wallpapers without ads will have 
better chances at getting lots of downloads and being selected for the 
"best new free apps" section?

I just wonder, because our live wallpapers have performed much better on 
SlideME than on Google play. One of our apps have been the most downloaded 
live wallpaper on SlideME, but not of them have ever reached the top40 most 
downloaded live wallpapers on Google Play, only the top100:(

Den måndagen den 30:e juli 2012 kl. 01:17:50 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft:
>
> lol, I can just see the headlines now, "Google says apps with ads are bad 
> idea".
>
> I take back what I said about not building a business around live 
> wallpapers.  I didn't think people could make money with blogs when they 
> first started and a couple people got rich starting some highly successful 
> blogs, so anything is possible in this industry.
>
> MobileVisuals, it does sound like you answered your own question, though.
>
> On Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:56:14 PM UTC-4, Dianne Hackborn wrote:
>>
>> This isn't Google's opinion, it is my opinion.
>>
>> If other people have found ways to do ads that work, then great.  As I 
>> said, I am not morally opposed to it, this just isn't a design goal for 
>> them.
>>
>> And it sounds like you see ways to do things that you think are 
>> acceptable, so what are you looking for in your original question...?
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM, MobileVisuals > > wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for explaining Google's opinion on this! The free version of 
>>> Fireflies live wallpaper seems to have an ad solution, which works well.
>>> A transparent banner is shown at the top of the main screen for the live 
>>> wallpaper. The reviews for the app are good and I don't see any complaints 
>>> about the ad. I think it has been among the top40 most downloaded live 
>>> wallapers.
>>>
>>> SlideME is the other big android appstore. The purchase to download rate 
>>> here is almost 0%, so ad based free versions are the only solution for this 
>>> appstore. One option is to have one free version without ads for Google 
>>> play and and one version with ads for SlideME,but this would be time 
>>> consuming.
>>>
>>> A purchase to download rate of 1% can be realistic on Google play. A 
>>> company would get about 1$ if we the price is 1,5$. 100 000 free downloads 
>>> each month on Google play would then be required to earn 1000$. Much less 
>>> downloads would be required to
>>> get as much revenue if the free versions has ads.
>>>
>>> Could really a business model of only purchases generate as much revenue 
>>> as purchases+ads? Maybe if removing the ads generated much more downloads. 
>>> But there are a lot of live wallpapers with ads, which are getting lots of 
>>> downloads, like Fireflies live wallpaper.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Den fredagen den 27:e juli 2012 kl. 23:39:20 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft:
>>>
 Yea, I don't think live wallpapers were meant as a thing to build a 
 business around, unless you can sell a whole lot of them for $.99, which 
 you might on iOS (if they had the functionality).

 www.filtrsoft.com

 On Friday, July 27, 2012 6:22:39 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote:
>
> Could you please explain why you think it is a terrible idea to mix 
> live wallpapers with advertising? 
>
> I have talked to several mobile advertising companies now and now one 
> has any other advertising solution for live wallpapers than push 
> notifications. Is any one else here developing live wallpapers? If so, 
> how 
> are you managing the advertising in the live wallpapers?
>
> Den onsdagen den 25:e juli 2012 kl. 19:10:12 UTC+2 skrev Dianne 
> Hackborn:
>>
>> Mixing live wallpapers with attempts at advertising seems like a 
>> terrible idea to me.  Have you considering instead trying something like 
>> in-app billing to allow users to unlock features in your app?
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:12 AM, MobileVisuals <
>> eyv...@astralvisuals.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any other way to advertise in live wallpapers than push 
>>> notifications? My company is using push notifications. This pays off 
>>> well, 
>>> but it also results in some bad reviews.I got this suggestion from 
>>> another 
>>> company:
>>>
>>> o Create a welcome page (name of the company, some app’s information)
>>>
>>> o Call for a Full screen ad with go and skip button
>>>
>>> o The go button will generate a click and transfer the user to the 
>>> add
>>>
>>> o The skip button will transfer the user to your app to continue the 
>>> app experience.
>>>
>>> Would this really work when the wallpaper is set as the current live 
>>> wallpaper? The user doesn't want to press a button every time the 
>>> screen is 
>>> woken up?
>>>
>

Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-07-29 Thread FiltrSoft
lol, I can just see the headlines now, "Google says apps with ads are bad 
idea".

I take back what I said about not building a business around live 
wallpapers.  I didn't think people could make money with blogs when they 
first started and a couple people got rich starting some highly successful 
blogs, so anything is possible in this industry.

MobileVisuals, it does sound like you answered your own question, though.

On Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:56:14 PM UTC-4, Dianne Hackborn wrote:
>
> This isn't Google's opinion, it is my opinion.
>
> If other people have found ways to do ads that work, then great.  As I 
> said, I am not morally opposed to it, this just isn't a design goal for 
> them.
>
> And it sounds like you see ways to do things that you think are 
> acceptable, so what are you looking for in your original question...?
>
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM, MobileVisuals 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for explaining Google's opinion on this! The free version of 
>> Fireflies live wallpaper seems to have an ad solution, which works well.
>> A transparent banner is shown at the top of the main screen for the live 
>> wallpaper. The reviews for the app are good and I don't see any complaints 
>> about the ad. I think it has been among the top40 most downloaded live 
>> wallapers.
>>
>> SlideME is the other big android appstore. The purchase to download rate 
>> here is almost 0%, so ad based free versions are the only solution for this 
>> appstore. One option is to have one free version without ads for Google 
>> play and and one version with ads for SlideME,but this would be time 
>> consuming.
>>
>> A purchase to download rate of 1% can be realistic on Google play. A 
>> company would get about 1$ if we the price is 1,5$. 100 000 free downloads 
>> each month on Google play would then be required to earn 1000$. Much less 
>> downloads would be required to
>> get as much revenue if the free versions has ads.
>>
>> Could really a business model of only purchases generate as much revenue 
>> as purchases+ads? Maybe if removing the ads generated much more downloads. 
>> But there are a lot of live wallpapers with ads, which are getting lots of 
>> downloads, like Fireflies live wallpaper.
>>
>>
>>
>> Den fredagen den 27:e juli 2012 kl. 23:39:20 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft:
>>
>>> Yea, I don't think live wallpapers were meant as a thing to build a 
>>> business around, unless you can sell a whole lot of them for $.99, which 
>>> you might on iOS (if they had the functionality).
>>>
>>> www.filtrsoft.com
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 27, 2012 6:22:39 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote:

 Could you please explain why you think it is a terrible idea to mix 
 live wallpapers with advertising? 

 I have talked to several mobile advertising companies now and now one 
 has any other advertising solution for live wallpapers than push 
 notifications. Is any one else here developing live wallpapers? If so, how 
 are you managing the advertising in the live wallpapers?

 Den onsdagen den 25:e juli 2012 kl. 19:10:12 UTC+2 skrev Dianne 
 Hackborn:
>
> Mixing live wallpapers with attempts at advertising seems like a 
> terrible idea to me.  Have you considering instead trying something like 
> in-app billing to allow users to unlock features in your app?
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:12 AM, MobileVisuals <
> eyv...@astralvisuals.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there any other way to advertise in live wallpapers than push 
>> notifications? My company is using push notifications. This pays off 
>> well, 
>> but it also results in some bad reviews.I got this suggestion from 
>> another 
>> company:
>>
>> o Create a welcome page (name of the company, some app’s information)
>>
>> o Call for a Full screen ad with go and skip button
>>
>> o The go button will generate a click and transfer the user to the add
>>
>> o The skip button will transfer the user to your app to continue the 
>> app experience.
>>
>> Would this really work when the wallpaper is set as the current live 
>> wallpaper? The user doesn't want to press a button every time the screen 
>> is 
>> woken up?
>>
>> Does anyone have any other idea of how to put ads in live wallpapers? 
>>  
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Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-07-29 Thread Dianne Hackborn
This isn't Google's opinion, it is my opinion.

If other people have found ways to do ads that work, then great.  As I
said, I am not morally opposed to it, this just isn't a design goal for
them.

And it sounds like you see ways to do things that you think are acceptable,
so what are you looking for in your original question...?

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM, MobileVisuals wrote:

> Thanks for explaining Google's opinion on this! The free version of
> Fireflies live wallpaper seems to have an ad solution, which works well.
> A transparent banner is shown at the top of the main screen for the live
> wallpaper. The reviews for the app are good and I don't see any complaints
> about the ad. I think it has been among the top40 most downloaded live
> wallapers.
>
> SlideME is the other big android appstore. The purchase to download rate
> here is almost 0%, so ad based free versions are the only solution for this
> appstore. One option is to have one free version without ads for Google
> play and and one version with ads for SlideME,but this would be time
> consuming.
>
> A purchase to download rate of 1% can be realistic on Google play. A
> company would get about 1$ if we the price is 1,5$. 100 000 free downloads
> each month on Google play would then be required to earn 1000$. Much less
> downloads would be required to
> get as much revenue if the free versions has ads.
>
> Could really a business model of only purchases generate as much revenue
> as purchases+ads? Maybe if removing the ads generated much more downloads.
> But there are a lot of live wallpapers with ads, which are getting lots of
> downloads, like Fireflies live wallpaper.
>
>
>
> Den fredagen den 27:e juli 2012 kl. 23:39:20 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft:
>
>> Yea, I don't think live wallpapers were meant as a thing to build a
>> business around, unless you can sell a whole lot of them for $.99, which
>> you might on iOS (if they had the functionality).
>>
>> www.filtrsoft.com
>>
>> On Friday, July 27, 2012 6:22:39 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote:
>>>
>>> Could you please explain why you think it is a terrible idea to mix live
>>> wallpapers with advertising?
>>>
>>> I have talked to several mobile advertising companies now and now one
>>> has any other advertising solution for live wallpapers than push
>>> notifications. Is any one else here developing live wallpapers? If so, how
>>> are you managing the advertising in the live wallpapers?
>>>
>>> Den onsdagen den 25:e juli 2012 kl. 19:10:12 UTC+2 skrev Dianne Hackborn:

 Mixing live wallpapers with attempts at advertising seems like a
 terrible idea to me.  Have you considering instead trying something like
 in-app billing to allow users to unlock features in your app?

 On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:12 AM, MobileVisuals <
 eyv...@astralvisuals.com> wrote:

> Is there any other way to advertise in live wallpapers than push
> notifications? My company is using push notifications. This pays off well,
> but it also results in some bad reviews.I got this suggestion from another
> company:
>
> o Create a welcome page (name of the company, some app’s information)
>
> o Call for a Full screen ad with go and skip button
>
> o The go button will generate a click and transfer the user to the add
>
> o The skip button will transfer the user to your app to continue the
> app experience.
>
> Would this really work when the wallpaper is set as the current live
> wallpaper? The user doesn't want to press a button every time the screen 
> is
> woken up?
>
> Does anyone have any other idea of how to put ads in live wallpapers?
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> Den fredagen den 27:e juli 2012 kl. 23:39:20 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft:
>
>> Yea, I don't think live wallpapers were meant as a thing to build a
>> business around, unless you can sell a whole lot of them for $.99, which
>> you might on iOS (if they had the functionality).
>>
>> www.filtrsoft.com
>>
>> On Friday, July 27, 2012 6:22:39 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote:
>>>
>>> Could you please explain why you think it is a terrible idea to 

Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-07-29 Thread MobileVisuals
Thanks for explaining Google's opinion on this! The free version of 
Fireflies live wallpaper seems to have an ad solution, which works well.
A transparent banner is shown at the top of the main screen for the live 
wallpaper. The reviews for the app are good and I don't see any complaints 
about the ad. I think it has been among the top40 most downloaded live 
wallapers.

SlideME is the other big android appstore. The purchase to download rate 
here is almost 0%, so ad based free versions are the only solution for this 
appstore. One option is to have one free version without ads for Google 
play and and one version with ads for SlideME,but this would be time 
consuming.

A purchase to download rate of 1% can be realistic on Google play. A 
company would get about 1$ if we the price is 1,5$. 100 000 free downloads 
each month on Google play would then be required to earn 1000$. Much less 
downloads would be required to
get as much revenue if the free versions has ads.

Could really a business model of only purchases generate as much revenue as 
purchases+ads? Maybe if removing the ads generated much more downloads. But 
there are a lot of live wallpapers with ads, which are getting lots of 
downloads, like Fireflies live wallpaper.



Den fredagen den 27:e juli 2012 kl. 23:39:20 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft:
>
> Yea, I don't think live wallpapers were meant as a thing to build a 
> business around, unless you can sell a whole lot of them for $.99, which 
> you might on iOS (if they had the functionality).
>
> www.filtrsoft.com
>
> On Friday, July 27, 2012 6:22:39 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote:
>>
>> Could you please explain why you think it is a terrible idea to mix live 
>> wallpapers with advertising? 
>>
>> I have talked to several mobile advertising companies now and now one has 
>> any other advertising solution for live wallpapers than push notifications. 
>> Is any one else here developing live wallpapers? If so, how are you 
>> managing the advertising in the live wallpapers?
>>
>> Den onsdagen den 25:e juli 2012 kl. 19:10:12 UTC+2 skrev Dianne Hackborn:
>>>
>>> Mixing live wallpapers with attempts at advertising seems like a 
>>> terrible idea to me.  Have you considering instead trying something like 
>>> in-app billing to allow users to unlock features in your app?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:12 AM, MobileVisuals >> > wrote:
>>>
 Is there any other way to advertise in live wallpapers than push 
 notifications? My company is using push notifications. This pays off well, 
 but it also results in some bad reviews.I got this suggestion from another 
 company:

 o Create a welcome page (name of the company, some app’s information)

 o Call for a Full screen ad with go and skip button

 o The go button will generate a click and transfer the user to the add

 o The skip button will transfer the user to your app to continue the 
 app experience.

 Would this really work when the wallpaper is set as the current live 
 wallpaper? The user doesn't want to press a button every time the screen 
 is 
 woken up?

 Does anyone have any other idea of how to put ads in live wallpapers? 
  
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Den fredagen den 27:e juli 2012 kl. 23:39:20 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft:
>
> Yea, I don't think live wallpapers were meant as a thing to build a 
> business around, unless you can sell a whole lot of them for $.99, which 
> you might on iOS (if they had the functionality).
>
> www.filtrsoft.com
>
> On Friday, July 27, 2012 6:22:39 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote:
>>
>> Could you please explain why you think it is a terrible idea to mix live 
>> wallpapers with advertising? 
>>
>> I have talked to several mobile advertising companies now and now one has 
>> any other advertising solution for live wallpapers than push notifications. 
>> Is any one else here developing live wallpapers? If so, how are you 
>> managing the advertising in the live wallpapers?
>>
>> Den onsdagen den 25:e juli 2012 kl. 19:10:12 UTC+2 skrev Dianne Hackborn:
>>>
>>> Mixing live wallpapers with attempts at advertising seems like a 
>>> terrible idea to me.  Have you considering instead trying something like 
>>> in-a

Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-07-27 Thread FiltrSoft
Yea, I don't think live wallpapers were meant as a thing to build a 
business around, unless you can sell a whole lot of them for $.99, which 
you might on iOS (if they had the functionality).

www.filtrsoft.com

On Friday, July 27, 2012 6:22:39 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote:
>
> Could you please explain why you think it is a terrible idea to mix live 
> wallpapers with advertising? 
>
> I have talked to several mobile advertising companies now and now one has 
> any other advertising solution for live wallpapers than push notifications. 
> Is any one else here developing live wallpapers? If so, how are you 
> managing the advertising in the live wallpapers?
>
> Den onsdagen den 25:e juli 2012 kl. 19:10:12 UTC+2 skrev Dianne Hackborn:
>>
>> Mixing live wallpapers with attempts at advertising seems like a terrible 
>> idea to me.  Have you considering instead trying something like in-app 
>> billing to allow users to unlock features in your app?
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:12 AM, MobileVisuals 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any other way to advertise in live wallpapers than push 
>>> notifications? My company is using push notifications. This pays off well, 
>>> but it also results in some bad reviews.I got this suggestion from another 
>>> company:
>>>
>>> o Create a welcome page (name of the company, some app’s information)
>>>
>>> o Call for a Full screen ad with go and skip button
>>>
>>> o The go button will generate a click and transfer the user to the add
>>>
>>> o The skip button will transfer the user to your app to continue the app 
>>> experience.
>>>
>>> Would this really work when the wallpaper is set as the current live 
>>> wallpaper? The user doesn't want to press a button every time the screen is 
>>> woken up?
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any other idea of how to put ads in live wallpapers? 
>>>  
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Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-07-27 Thread Dianne Hackborn
Let's assume that push advertising is a bad user experience.  (It is.)

Do you have a solution for presenting advertising to the user through a
live wallpaper that doesn't suck?

I can't think of one.  If you can't either, maybe this is just not an
appropriate thing to do.

We created live wallpapers as a cool little thing to jazz up the UI, with
an API that allows other people to make their own cool little things.  That
doesn't mean there are guarantees around monetizing these things through
anything besides direct user payments...  that wasn't really the goal of
this feature, the goal was just to make it possible to have interesting
things going on in the background of the home screen.

Maybe there are ways to monetize these through other things besides in-app
billing or some other such direct mechanism.  If you think you want to try
another way, you should at least have that as part of your plan from the
start.  Otherwise, you end up trying to shove some monetization on top of
something that wasn't designed from the start to have monetization, which
is probably going to be a bad result.  And as I said, since monetization
outside of direct charges isn't part of the core model around live
wallpapers, there is even more of a burden on you to figure out how to do
this nicely from the start.

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:22 AM, MobileVisuals wrote:

> Could you please explain why you think it is a terrible idea to mix live
> wallpapers with advertising?
>
> I have talked to several mobile advertising companies now and now one has
> any other advertising solution for live wallpapers than push notifications.
> Is any one else here developing live wallpapers? If so, how are you
> managing the advertising in the live wallpapers?
>
> Den onsdagen den 25:e juli 2012 kl. 19:10:12 UTC+2 skrev Dianne Hackborn:
>
>> Mixing live wallpapers with attempts at advertising seems like a terrible
>> idea to me.  Have you considering instead trying something like in-app
>> billing to allow users to unlock features in your app?
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:12 AM, MobileVisuals 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any other way to advertise in live wallpapers than push
>>> notifications? My company is using push notifications. This pays off well,
>>> but it also results in some bad reviews.I got this suggestion from another
>>> company:
>>>
>>> o Create a welcome page (name of the company, some app’s information)
>>>
>>> o Call for a Full screen ad with go and skip button
>>>
>>> o The go button will generate a click and transfer the user to the add
>>>
>>> o The skip button will transfer the user to your app to continue the app
>>> experience.
>>>
>>> Would this really work when the wallpaper is set as the current live
>>> wallpaper? The user doesn't want to press a button every time the screen is
>>> woken up?
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any other idea of how to put ads in live wallpapers?
>>>
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Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-07-27 Thread MobileVisuals
Could you please explain why you think it is a terrible idea to mix live 
wallpapers with advertising? 

I have talked to several mobile advertising companies now and now one has 
any other advertising solution for live wallpapers than push notifications. 
Is any one else here developing live wallpapers? If so, how are you 
managing the advertising in the live wallpapers?

Den onsdagen den 25:e juli 2012 kl. 19:10:12 UTC+2 skrev Dianne Hackborn:
>
> Mixing live wallpapers with attempts at advertising seems like a terrible 
> idea to me.  Have you considering instead trying something like in-app 
> billing to allow users to unlock features in your app?
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:12 AM, MobileVisuals 
> wrote:
>
>> Is there any other way to advertise in live wallpapers than push 
>> notifications? My company is using push notifications. This pays off well, 
>> but it also results in some bad reviews.I got this suggestion from another 
>> company:
>>
>> o Create a welcome page (name of the company, some app’s information)
>>
>> o Call for a Full screen ad with go and skip button
>>
>> o The go button will generate a click and transfer the user to the add
>>
>> o The skip button will transfer the user to your app to continue the app 
>> experience.
>>
>> Would this really work when the wallpaper is set as the current live 
>> wallpaper? The user doesn't want to press a button every time the screen is 
>> woken up?
>>
>> Does anyone have any other idea of how to put ads in live wallpapers? 
>>  
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Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-07-26 Thread FiltrSoft
I really only have 8 apps on the market, but there is a free/paid version 
of each.  I don't make alot of money as it's just a hobby, but I do know I 
more people have paid for my apps on Amazon's App Store, then Google's Play 
Store b/c it's easier to find my apps on Amazon (better organized) and it's 
ALOT easier to buy apps on Amazon.  Google's store is basically organized 
chaos (though their Developer Console is really nice).

On Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:27:18 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote:
>
> I agree with what you are saying! I see that your company FiltrSoft has 18 
> apps on Android market. Do you also get much more revenue from advertising 
> than sales on Android market?
>
> Den torsdagen den 26:e juli 2012 kl. 15:22:46 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft:
>>
>> On Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:43:40 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> Why is it a terrible idea to put ads in live wallpapers? Everyone I have 
>>> talked to says that the only way to make money on Android market is through 
>>> advertising, since the downloads to purchase ratio is too low.
>>>
>>>  
>> I agree with this.  I wish Google would put more resources into upgrading 
>> the Play Store.  The categorization is so basic, your app get buried.  For 
>> example, they have one big "News & Magazines" category, while Amazon has a 
>> "Newsstand" category, which has subcategories for "Entertainment", 
>> "Business", "Health", etc.  Little things like that make it easier to find 
>> apps.
>>
>> There's also no gift cards and no way to gift apps to others, so 
>> purchasing options are limited.  You're basically required to use a credit 
>> card to buy apps.
>>
>> Sorry for hijacking the thread.
>>  
>>
>

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Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-07-26 Thread MobileVisuals
I agree with what you are saying! I see that your company FiltrSoft has 18 
apps on Android market. Do you also get much more revenue from advertising 
than sales on Android market?

Den torsdagen den 26:e juli 2012 kl. 15:22:46 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft:
>
> On Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:43:40 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote:
>  
>
>> Why is it a terrible idea to put ads in live wallpapers? Everyone I have 
>> talked to says that the only way to make money on Android market is through 
>> advertising, since the downloads to purchase ratio is too low.
>>
>>  
> I agree with this.  I wish Google would put more resources into upgrading 
> the Play Store.  The categorization is so basic, your app get buried.  For 
> example, they have one big "News & Magazines" category, while Amazon has a 
> "Newsstand" category, which has subcategories for "Entertainment", 
> "Business", "Health", etc.  Little things like that make it easier to find 
> apps.
>
> There's also no gift cards and no way to gift apps to others, so 
> purchasing options are limited.  You're basically required to use a credit 
> card to buy apps.
>
> Sorry for hijacking the thread.
>  
>

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Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-07-26 Thread FiltrSoft
On Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:43:40 AM UTC-4, MobileVisuals wrote:
 

> Why is it a terrible idea to put ads in live wallpapers? Everyone I have 
> talked to says that the only way to make money on Android market is through 
> advertising, since the downloads to purchase ratio is too low.
>
>  
I agree with this.  I wish Google would put more resources into upgrading 
the Play Store.  The categorization is so basic, your app get buried.  For 
example, they have one big "News & Magazines" category, while Amazon has a 
"Newsstand" category, which has subcategories for "Entertainment", 
"Business", "Health", etc.  Little things like that make it easier to find 
apps.

There's also no gift cards and no way to gift apps to others, so purchasing 
options are limited.  You're basically required to use a credit card to buy 
apps.

Sorry for hijacking the thread.
 

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Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-07-26 Thread MobileVisuals
Thanks for the advice! The best thing would be to use in-app billing 
without commercials if this generated enough revenue. We tried this last 
year, but it didn't pay off enough. We then added notification commercials 
from Leadbolt to our live wallpapers in February. This increased the 
revenue by 500%. This means that we get 5 times as much revenue from 
advertising than from the Android market sales.

Which type of  in-app billing do you mean? We now have a "buy the full 
version" button on each of the free versions of our live wallpapers.
So we have a ad free full version for each one of our free live wallpapers 
with commercials. Some of the free versions also have greyed out settings, 
which are enabled in the full version.

Why is it a terrible idea to put ads in live wallpapers? Everyone I have 
talked to says that the only way to make money on Android market is through 
advertising, since the downloads to purchase ratio is too low.

Or have the downloads to purchase ratio improved since last year on Android 
market? I can see on sale reports from other appstores, like
Sony Playnow, T-mobile and Vodafone that Android apps are now selling 
better than Java apps.

Den onsdagen den 25:e juli 2012 kl. 19:20:15 UTC+2 skrev FiltrSoft:
>
> Yea, but what if the live wallpaper is nothing but a big rotating ad?  
> That's gold!
>
> http://www.filtrsoft.com/
>
> On Wednesday, July 25, 2012 1:10:12 PM UTC-4, Dianne Hackborn wrote:
>>
>> Mixing live wallpapers with attempts at advertising seems like a terrible 
>> idea to me.  Have you considering instead trying something like in-app 
>> billing to allow users to unlock features in your app?
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:12 AM, MobileVisuals 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any other way to advertise in live wallpapers than push 
>>> notifications? My company is using push notifications. This pays off well, 
>>> but it also results in some bad reviews.I got this suggestion from another 
>>> company:
>>>
>>> o Create a welcome page (name of the company, some app’s information)
>>>
>>> o Call for a Full screen ad with go and skip button
>>>
>>> o The go button will generate a click and transfer the user to the add
>>>
>>> o The skip button will transfer the user to your app to continue the app 
>>> experience.
>>>
>>> Would this really work when the wallpaper is set as the current live 
>>> wallpaper? The user doesn't want to press a button every time the screen is 
>>> woken up?
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any other idea of how to put ads in live wallpapers? 
>>>  
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Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-07-25 Thread Francisco Marzoa
I'm afraid it would not have many installs...
On Jul 25, 2012 7:23 PM, "FiltrSoft"  wrote:

> Yea, but what if the live wallpaper is nothing but a big rotating ad?
> That's gold!
>
> http://www.filtrsoft.com/
>
> On Wednesday, July 25, 2012 1:10:12 PM UTC-4, Dianne Hackborn wrote:
>>
>> Mixing live wallpapers with attempts at advertising seems like a terrible
>> idea to me.  Have you considering instead trying something like in-app
>> billing to allow users to unlock features in your app?
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:12 AM, MobileVisuals 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any other way to advertise in live wallpapers than push
>>> notifications? My company is using push notifications. This pays off well,
>>> but it also results in some bad reviews.I got this suggestion from another
>>> company:
>>>
>>> o Create a welcome page (name of the company, some app’s information)
>>>
>>> o Call for a Full screen ad with go and skip button
>>>
>>> o The go button will generate a click and transfer the user to the add
>>>
>>> o The skip button will transfer the user to your app to continue the app
>>> experience.
>>>
>>> Would this really work when the wallpaper is set as the current live
>>> wallpaper? The user doesn't want to press a button every time the screen is
>>> woken up?
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any other idea of how to put ads in live wallpapers?
>>>
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Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-07-25 Thread FiltrSoft
Yea, but what if the live wallpaper is nothing but a big rotating ad?  
That's gold!

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On Wednesday, July 25, 2012 1:10:12 PM UTC-4, Dianne Hackborn wrote:
>
> Mixing live wallpapers with attempts at advertising seems like a terrible 
> idea to me.  Have you considering instead trying something like in-app 
> billing to allow users to unlock features in your app?
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:12 AM, MobileVisuals 
> wrote:
>
>> Is there any other way to advertise in live wallpapers than push 
>> notifications? My company is using push notifications. This pays off well, 
>> but it also results in some bad reviews.I got this suggestion from another 
>> company:
>>
>> o Create a welcome page (name of the company, some app’s information)
>>
>> o Call for a Full screen ad with go and skip button
>>
>> o The go button will generate a click and transfer the user to the add
>>
>> o The skip button will transfer the user to your app to continue the app 
>> experience.
>>
>> Would this really work when the wallpaper is set as the current live 
>> wallpaper? The user doesn't want to press a button every time the screen is 
>> woken up?
>>
>> Does anyone have any other idea of how to put ads in live wallpapers? 
>>  
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Re: [android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-07-25 Thread Dianne Hackborn
Mixing live wallpapers with attempts at advertising seems like a terrible
idea to me.  Have you considering instead trying something like in-app
billing to allow users to unlock features in your app?

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:12 AM, MobileVisuals wrote:

> Is there any other way to advertise in live wallpapers than push
> notifications? My company is using push notifications. This pays off well,
> but it also results in some bad reviews.I got this suggestion from another
> company:
>
> o Create a welcome page (name of the company, some app’s information)
>
> o Call for a Full screen ad with go and skip button
>
> o The go button will generate a click and transfer the user to the add
>
> o The skip button will transfer the user to your app to continue the app
> experience.
>
> Would this really work when the wallpaper is set as the current live
> wallpaper? The user doesn't want to press a button every time the screen is
> woken up?
>
> Does anyone have any other idea of how to put ads in live wallpapers?
>
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[android-developers] How to put ads in live wallpapers?

2012-07-25 Thread MobileVisuals
Is there any other way to advertise in live wallpapers than push 
notifications? My company is using push notifications. This pays off well, 
but it also results in some bad reviews.I got this suggestion from another 
company:

o Create a welcome page (name of the company, some app’s information)

o Call for a Full screen ad with go and skip button

o The go button will generate a click and transfer the user to the add

o The skip button will transfer the user to your app to continue the app 
experience.

Would this really work when the wallpaper is set as the current live 
wallpaper? The user doesn't want to press a button every time the screen is 
woken up?

Does anyone have any other idea of how to put ads in live wallpapers? 

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